Parker and this team.

[alfulham]

I am a big admirer of SP and he has been great as a player for Fulham. Not often players make good managers and although SP has the potential of becoming a good manager it may not happen just yet. He has in front of him potentially an amazing set of players that only once were available to our frenchman Jean Tigana. I want the best for  Fulham like any other fan. I am frustrated when we throw away victories because SP cannot change the formation or bring on the right substitutes. If we want to win promotion then with this we can because from what I have seen in this league there is no team like ours. Slav, didn't have such a talented side as this but he was experienced and new his formations.
This is not a SP hate post but comes from frustration following the way the results are panning out.
COYW

[filham]

Scott Parker must wish he had the two full backs plus Ryan Sess, that Jocanovic had available in the second half of our promotion season.

[FFC1987]

Scott Parker must wish he had the two full backs plus Ryan Sess, that Jocanovic had available in the second half of our promotion season.

Blimey, if we're going to play that game, Slav must be in awe of the squad Parker has now!

[Statto]

Scott Parker must wish he had the two full backs plus Ryan Sess, that Jocanovic had available in the second half of our promotion season.

Blimey, if we're going to play that game, Slav must be in awe of the squad Parker has now!

Player for player, surely the teams are roughly equal.

Not much, if anything, between Target vs Bryan, Arter vs Mcdonald (17/18) or Mawson vs Kalas.

So far I don't think Knockaert looks any better than Ayite or R Sessegnon.

Cavaleiro is probably an improvement but then S Sessegnon is a big downgrade on Fredericks.

[@jolslover]

Scott Parker must wish he had the two full backs plus Ryan Sess, that Jocanovic had available in the second half of our promotion season.

Blimey, if we're going to play that game, Slav must be in awe of the squad Parker has now!

Agreed

[Skatzoffc]

I don't agree that Steve Sess is a downgrade on Freddie.

I think that Ryan complimented Mitro tho.

The goals have dried up, imo, because Cav and knockheart are not team players.

Mitro gets no service whatsoever.

[Statto]

I don't agree that Steve Sess is a downgrade on Freddie..

Each to their own etc but that is one of the maddest comments I've heard in a while. Fredericks would get into most PL teams. Sessegnon would struggle to get into most Championship teams.

[JoelH5]

I don't agree that Steve Sess is a downgrade on Freddie..

Each to their own etc but that is one of the maddest comments I've heard in a while. Fredericks would get into most PL teams. Sessegnon would struggle to get into most Championship teams.

Almost as mad as saying Kalas is as good as Mawson

[The Rational Fan]

I don't agree that Steve Sess is a downgrade on Freddie..

Each to their own etc but that is one of the maddest comments I've heard in a while. Fredericks would get into most PL teams. Sessegnon would struggle to get into most Championship teams.

Almost as mad as saying Kalas is as good as Mawson

S.Sess is good on the ball, Freddie is great off the ball and we need the later. Whenever Cairney had the ball, Johasen and Fredricks were In front of him and whenever we lose the ball they would get back. We are picking the pass brilliantly, but who is moving into space up the field, without movement we are too predictable.

[Woolly Mammoth]

I don't agree that Steve Sess is a downgrade on Freddie..

To The Rational Fan, please remember,
Movement is so important on and off the ball. We must support the man on the ball. The player in possession must have at least three players he is able to pass to. Without having to turn round, just pass the way he is facing, then move to support the man he has passed to. So it's pass and move, pass and move, give and go, rock and roll, and it has to be at our tempo, not the opponent, they march to the beat of our drum, we are the governors. Make the opponent think there are more than 11 of us. To do that you pass and move, and create space for yourself and your team mates. Ten yard balls to feet, keep long passes to a minimum, as the further they have to travel the less accurate they are and the more chance they will be intercepted or go astray. However, having said that you also have to mix it up and be less predictable and full of surprises.
The brain is the quickest muscle in the body, that's why Johnny Haynes and Bobby Charlton we're always one step ahead of the rest of the team, the same goes for Matt Le Tissere, Teddy Sherringham and Glen Hoddle to name but a few. All of them let the ball do the work, because the ball never gets tired.
From Woolly Mammoth.

[AnOldBrownie]

I don't agree that Steve Sess is a downgrade on Freddie.

I think that Ryan complimented Mitro tho.

The goals have dried up, imo, because Cav and knockheart are not team players.

Mitro gets no service whatsoever.

Elaborate please.   I disagree.

I definitely agree that the front line is playing as three skilled individuals and not as a well oiled machine.   It's why I think more games and more time on the practice pitch will work wonders...or either Knock or Cav will become bench players.

Go back and watch the 2017/2018 games...even in the first half of the season.    The team moved the ball much better than it does now.

[The Rational Fan]

I don't agree that Steve Sess is a downgrade on Freddie..

To The Rational Fan, please remember,
Movement is so important on and off the ball. We must support the man on the ball. The player in possession must have at least three players he is able to pass to. Without having to turn round, just pass the way he is facing, then move to support the man he has passed to. So it's pass and move, pass and move, give and go, rock and roll, and it has to be at our tempo, not the opponent, they march to the beat of our drum, we are the governors. Make the opponent think there are more than 11 of us. To do that you pass and move, and create space for yourself and your team mates. Ten yard balls to feet, keep long passes to a minimum, as the further they have to travel the less accurate they are and the more chance they will be intercepted or go astray. However, having said that you also have to mix it up and be less predictable and full of surprises.
The brain is the quickest muscle in the body, that's why Johnny Haynes and Bobby Charlton we're always one step ahead of the rest of the team, the same goes for Matt Le Tissere, Teddy Sherringham and Glen Hoddle to name but a few. All of them let the ball do the work, because the ball never gets tired.
From Woolly Mammoth.

Very well said, and its awesome you gave three of the most underated players ever as examples Matt Le Tissere, Teddy Sherringham and Glen Hoddle. I have seen the later two play at the cottage, what a privilege although it would have been better if they played for the right team.

[toshes mate]

I think Jokanovic would have enjoyed Cavaleiro and Knockaert in his squad but would have been less happy with our current full backs, preferring to concentrate on partnership outcomes, rather than measure individual v. individual worth.  Targett and Fredericks both did what Jokanovic asked them to do, as did players like Aluko, Malone, Sessegnon R, Kamara and Ayite did ahead of them as flank partners. I also agree with the comments about having at least two options for an open pass which requires movement of all others on the field to move their opponents around.  Jokanovic demanded a high work rate with everyone being involved no matter how far away from the ball they were.

Watching the most recent matches I have noted that some players act as if they are no longer expected to move around because of the distance they are from the ball.  By that I mean they appear to no longer feel they are involved in the move.  That suggests there is a predictability to what comes next rather than a wish and will to make things happen by creating gaps by keeping opponents guessing all over the pitch.   Movement has to be fluid and selfless regardless of where the ball is.   You create by getting opponents out of position and there are no end of ways to do it successfully provided the necessary wavelength is being tuned into.  I suspect the answer lies in holding to a defensive shield to offset the risk of a costly counter.   

Possession when done well not only holds onto the ball but moves play up the pitch at a varied tempo by using movement into space.  Mawson and Ream have the easiest and hardest jobs when building an attack because slow release guarantees the opponent the chance to cover whereas speed may lead to quick loss of possession.  Mawson and Ream need to become pass masters across the whole range of distance so that the potential for accurate balls over the top of the opponents disturbs their equilibrium and makes it less likely they'll keep their shape and organisation.

I believe we are, at the moment, being far too predictable much of the time, and must work on ploys to make that predictability much less certain.   The key is making the distribution of our defenders (including Bettinelli) much more varied but always accurate and always with more than one option on offer.   

[Bassey the warrior]

I think Jokanovic would have enjoyed Cavaleiro and Knockaert in his squad but would have been less happy with our current full backs, preferring to concentrate on partnership outcomes, rather than measure individual v. individual worth.  Targett and Fredericks both did what Jokanovic asked them to do, as did players like Aluko, Malone, Sessegnon R, Kamara and Ayite did ahead of them as flank partners. I also agree with the comments about having at least two options for an open pass which requires movement of all others on the field to move their opponents around.  Jokanovic demanded a high work rate with everyone being involved no matter how far away from the ball they were.

Watching the most recent matches I have noted that some players act as if they are no longer expected to move around because of the distance they are from the ball.  By that I mean they appear to no longer feel they are involved in the move.  That suggests there is a predictability to what comes next rather than a wish and will to make things happen by creating gaps by keeping opponents guessing all over the pitch.   Movement has to be fluid and selfless regardless of where the ball is.   You create by getting opponents out of position and there are no end of ways to do it successfully provided the necessary wavelength is being tuned into.  I suspect the answer lies in holding to a defensive shield to offset the risk of a costly counter.   

Possession when done well not only holds onto the ball but moves play up the pitch at a varied tempo by using movement into space.  Mawson and Ream have the easiest and hardest jobs when building an attack because slow release guarantees the opponent the chance to cover whereas speed may lead to quick loss of possession.  Mawson and Ream need to become pass masters across the whole range of distance so that the potential for accurate balls over the top of the opponents disturbs their equilibrium and makes it less likely they'll keep their shape and organisation.

I believe we are, at the moment, being far too predictable much of the time, and must work on ploys to make that predictability much less certain.   The key is making the distribution of our defenders (including Bettinelli) much more varied but always accurate and always with more than one option on offer.   

Agree with this.

[fulhamben]

You lost me at he was great as a player for fulham. He wasnt , not even close. He was bought in to anchor the team, and for 3 seasons we shipped in goal after goal after goal. Not to mention he captained us to one relegation and two further relegation scraps. And we were shocking when he was a first team coach the bloke is a jonah pure and simple

[MJG]

You lost me at he was great as a player for fulham. He wasnt , not even close. He was bought in to anchor the team, and for 3 seasons we shipped in goal after goal after goal. Not to mention he captained us to one relegation and two further relegation scraps. And we were shocking when he was a first team coach the bloke is a jonah pure and simple

I'm struggling to disagree with a word of that.

[filham]

I don't agree that Steve Sess is a downgrade on Freddie..

Each to their own etc but that is one of the maddest comments I've heard in a while. Fredericks would get into most PL teams. Sessegnon would struggle to get into most Championship teams.

Almost as mad as saying Kalas is as good as Mawson

S.Sess is good on the ball, Freddie is great off the ball and we need the later. Whenever Cairney had the ball, Johasen and Fredricks were In front of him and whenever we lose the ball they would get back. We are picking the pass brilliantly, but who is moving into space up the field, without movement we are too predictable.

All due respect to S.Sess. but Fredericks in attack is the key player we are missing, his pace could take him outside the full back and behind the defence. Only Kamara in the present team looks half capable of doing that.

[Woolly Mammoth]

You lost me at he was great as a player for fulham. He wasnt , not even close. He was bought in to anchor the team, and for 3 seasons we shipped in goal after goal after goal. Not to mention he captained us to one relegation and two further relegation scraps. And we were shocking when he was a first team coach the bloke is a jonah pure and simple

I am struggling to agree with a word of that.

[The Rational Fan]

Scott Parker must wish he had the two full backs plus Ryan Sess, that Jocanovic had available in the second half of our promotion season.

Blimey, if we're going to play that game, Slav must be in awe of the squad Parker has now!

Player for player, surely the teams are roughly equal.

Not much, if anything, between Target vs Bryan, Arter vs Mcdonald (17/18) or Mawson vs Kalas.

So far I don't think Knockaert looks any better than Ayite or R Sessegnon.

Cavaleiro is probably an improvement but then S Sessegnon is a big downgrade on Fredericks.

Scott Parker has a much better team available than the first half of 17/18, and we should do a little better in the first 26 games.

Tony Khan (genius by accident) didn't get the Hector deal though on time, so we have saved one players half-year salary that can be used.

I expect that Tony Khan was playing to have the budget for at least one winter loan anyway, so now we should have Hector plus two more.

If the second half of the season we have the current team, plus Hector and two other additional players, then this team on paper could be scary good.

[alfulham]

I do not agree. You can give a manager the best team in the world but if he does not know what he is doing then the team will fail.
I don't think we have a worse team than Leeds, Swansea, Notts forest, WBA & QPR. We can play these teams off the park but we can't beat them because SP has not the experience to win matches. I have been to all the home matches this season and we have been fortunate to win some of them apart from Millwall didn't turn up. Any manager in this division would love to work with this team and make them win matches. I am sorry its not our team, its a collection of poor management and naivety of SP as a rookie manager.