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Re: Seri could return
« Reply #20 on: November 07, 2019, 02:39:21 PM »
Seri doesn’t fit in Fulham for lots of reasons, the game in England is too physical for him,  including the fact that he couldn’t be bothered either to make an effort to integrate.

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Re: Seri could return
« Reply #21 on: November 07, 2019, 02:44:46 PM »
Bring him back,,,could do with another bricklayer or labourer  to build the stand !
Absolutley usless in this league.....

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Re: Seri could return
« Reply #22 on: November 07, 2019, 03:01:36 PM »

To be fair, you asked where the accusation came from or if anything was said, I've told you it likely comes from the Ream comment and laid out why it's likely those two+ others but we're specifically talking about Seri along with reasons why Ream's statement is likely talking about Seri (or including) including social media interaction, squad interaction and body language, and we now have someone claiming an ITK account pointing the finger to him. It's not really a witch hunt scenario but I'd argue theres potentially a valuable point here that something wasn't quite right with his attitude. If you don't think any of that can be used as evidence then we'll just agree to disagree but I still think its laughable not to really consider it all things considered.

I'd also disagree on Ream saying something or not. hes actually a good egg and if anything wasn't right, I think he has enough integrity to point it out as he has done.

I asked, and you provided one possible explanation. I didn't try to discredit your claim as such and neither did I say that your reasoning lacked logic. I just tried to explain that such vague "evidence" is not worth much in my book (which is not about whether something should be considered as "evidence", but more on how one subjectively value the specific information, which is actually quite a big difference). I considered it, and attached a very low value to it as evidence. The additional information provided by Spirit of 2000 is worth a little more to me, because although completely unconfirmed (as is often the nature in most such cases) and lacking much context it at least directly claims that Seri was a bad influence (meaning that one didn't have to make that part up from bits and pieces of other information). 

I do respect that you have a different view here, and have no problem with that (I don't even feel the need to call your strong faith in this "evidence" laughable, but maybe that is where we differ on a more fundamental level).

As for Ream I don't feel the need to question your claim that Ream is a good egg, because you may well be right (and you can maybe even back it up), but that is first and foremost because other than the mentioned interview I have seen nothing that gives me a reason to believe that he isn't (a good egg). I still don't attach much value to the claim though (since without context it just comes out of thin air). I also don't think that even if he's generally a good egg, that calling your teammates out in the media is the correct course of action when the team is struggling (as always I am perfectly fine with others not agreeing with this view).


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Re: Seri could return
« Reply #23 on: November 07, 2019, 03:04:38 PM »
At this point (and I don't like doing this generally), I'll say I've a reliable source who works within Motspur Park (who for obvious reasons cannot be named) and Seri was part of a very prominent clique that used to keep themselves away from the rest of the squad whenever possible. This included these players (yes Anguissa also included) sitting together always at meal times after training & the like. Now I've been very critical of Parker … but to his credit one of the first things he did when he took over last season was to get rid of that and basically forced that group to integrate. Seri generally was never happy to be a Fulham & only joined for £££ and as his French club wanted to sell at the price on offer, he was quoted as saying he had never even heard of Fulham prior to joining.


Seri can stay well away - bad attitude, bad influence, send him back to a French ligue 1 side on loan and hope he does well so we can get a chunk of our dosh back.

What? A new player in a new country who speaks French found it easier to socialise with another player who had joined at the same time and from the same country, spoke the same language and came from a similar cultural background, rather than socialising with the existing gang of British lads who'd known each other for years?

I am just so sho4cked and disgusted by this!!

It wasn't just Seri and Anguissa it was about a group of 6 in a clique and Parker thought it unhealthy enough to put a stop to it immediately

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Re: Seri could return
« Reply #24 on: November 07, 2019, 03:09:53 PM »
At this point (and I don't like doing this generally), I'll say I've a reliable source who works within Motspur Park (who for obvious reasons cannot be named) and Seri was part of a very prominent clique that used to keep themselves away from the rest of the squad whenever possible. This included these players (yes Anguissa also included) sitting together always at meal times after training & the like. Now I've been very critical of Parker … but to his credit one of the first things he did when he took over last season was to get rid of that and basically forced that group to integrate. Seri generally was never happy to be a Fulham & only joined for £££ and as his French club wanted to sell at the price on offer, he was quoted as saying he had never even heard of Fulham prior to joining.


Seri can stay well away - bad attitude, bad influence, send him back to a French ligue 1 side on loan and hope he does well so we can get a chunk of our dosh back.

What? A new player in a new country who speaks French found it easier to socialise with another player who had joined at the same time and from the same country, spoke the same language and came from a similar cultural background, rather than socialising with the existing gang of British lads who'd known each other for years?

I am just so sho4cked and disgusted by this!!

It wasn't just Seri and Anguissa it was about a group of 6 in a clique and Parker thought it unhealthy enough to put a stop to it immediately

So even if all this is true, it doesn't really need to mean that Seri in particular is worse than most players, does it? Money is one of the most important things for many players. Likewise, why would it matter if Seri had heard of Fulham beforehand? Nothing here really explains why he is such a bad influence.

However, if true that he really doesn't want to be here (and it may very well be true), then it is probably better for the team if he isn't.

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Re: Seri could return
« Reply #25 on: November 07, 2019, 04:02:06 PM »
At this point (and I don't like doing this generally), I'll say I've a reliable source who works within Motspur Park (who for obvious reasons cannot be named) and Seri was part of a very prominent clique that used to keep themselves away from the rest of the squad whenever possible. This included these players (yes Anguissa also included) sitting together always at meal times after training & the like. Now I've been very critical of Parker … but to his credit one of the first things he did when he took over last season was to get rid of that and basically forced that group to integrate. Seri generally was never happy to be a Fulham & only joined for £££ and as his French club wanted to sell at the price on offer, he was quoted as saying he had never even heard of Fulham prior to joining.


Seri can stay well away - bad attitude, bad influence, send him back to a French ligue 1 side on loan and hope he does well so we can get a chunk of our dosh back.

What? A new player in a new country who speaks French found it easier to socialise with another player who had joined at the same time and from the same country, spoke the same language and came from a similar cultural background, rather than socialising with the existing gang of British lads who'd known each other for years?

I am just so sho4cked and disgusted by this!!

It wasn't just Seri and Anguissa it was about a group of 6 in a clique and Parker thought it unhealthy enough to put a stop to it immediately

Well I'm guessing the 3rd was Le Marchand who joined with Seri from Nice (again, perfectly understandable IMO) and a few of the other new lads.

Having followed most of the players closely on social media for some time, I wouldn't be surprised if the most blameworthy group was actually the existing core of British players (Bettinelli, McDonald et al) because they strike me as having the most discernible "clique"

In any case, I don't consider a mild divide between new/foreign and existing/domestic players as unusual or worrisome, nor do I think it a particularly profound or novel idea for Parker to have tried to integrate them more closely (if indeed he did do anything that Jokanovic and Ranieri hadn't already done before him)

What I will say is it reflects poorly on our transfer strategy and TK, for not anticipating this as an inevitable consequences of bringing in a large number of new, foreign-based players in a short space of time 
« Last Edit: November 07, 2019, 04:05:47 PM by Statto »


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Re: Seri could return
« Reply #26 on: November 07, 2019, 04:18:26 PM »
Reports that Seri has been so successful at Galatasaray  that they are in talks to send him back to Fulham. His mistakes have cost them so far and they want him out. Could be the hard working midfield genius we need to....oh hang on.

Watched some of that Galatasaray 6 nil drubbing at the hands of Real Madrid yesterday.  Seri looked very un-impressive to say the least.  Former Cottager Babel looked ok, just ok, but they were totally outmatched in that game.  Not sure a Seri return is all that favorable for FFC?