Question

[Peabody]

Who knows who Ebeneezer Cobb-Morely is? The important date is 26/10/1863 and it is slightly Fulham related.

[rebel]

He is regarded as one of the fathers of the Football Association (FA) and modern football, born in Barnes. More to follow.

[rebel]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6417473/Father-football-Ebenezer-Cobb-Morley-abandoned-grave.html

[Peabody]

Well done. Ebeneezer has gifted us the opportunity to be able to support our team and for that, I am grateful

[rebel]

Just a aside, apparently football's origins are Scottish, but there the origins might actually be Chinese. No doubt 'caveman' kicked small stones around, the kids surely would of.   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuju#:~:text=Invented%20in%20the%20Han%20dynasty,in%20Korea%2C%20Japan%20and%20Vietnam.

[kiwian]

Just a aside, apparently football's origins are Scottish, but there the origins might actually be Chinese. No doubt 'caveman' kicked small stones around, the kids surely would of.   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuju#:~:text=Invented%20in%20the%20Han%20dynasty,in%20Korea%2C%20Japan%20and%20Vietnam.

According to the movie I watched last night (Early Man), the game was invented by a tribe of stone age hunters who challenged bronze age city dwellers to a game to save their ancestral lands. They also wanted to improve their hunting skills to be able to eat mammoths rather than rabbits.

[rebel]

Just a aside, apparently football's origins are Scottish, but there the origins might actually be Chinese. No doubt 'caveman' kicked small stones around, the kids surely would of.   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuju#:~:text=Invented%20in%20the%20Han%20dynasty,in%20Korea%2C%20Japan%20and%20Vietnam.

According to the movie I watched last night (Early Man), the game was invented by a tribe of stone age hunters who challenged bronze age city dwellers to a game to save their ancestral lands. They also wanted to improve their hunting skills to be able to eat mammoths rather than rabbits.

Becareful, a Mammoth posts on this site. 

[toshes mate]

When did 'football' become 'football' is one of those pointless questions that has no real answer other than the arrival of the word 'football' (with the English meaning - foot and ball) in any other language. A lot of people must have kicked things around throughout history but the crucial thing someone eventually did was to find something that was reasonably round and could be kicked without risking injury.  The Mayans did have a courtyard sport involving 'balls' and 'goals' but it seemed to resemble basketball rather than football and didn't have a happy ending for some players.  Identify the first 'ball' ever used and you'd probably find the first person who kicked it too.

[Peabody]

When did 'football' become 'football' is one of those pointless questions that has no real answer other than the arrival of the word 'football' (with the English meaning - foot and ball) in any other language. A lot of people must have kicked things around throughout history but the crucial thing someone eventually did was to find something that was reasonably round and could be kicked without risking injury.  The Mayans did have a courtyard sport involving 'balls' and 'goals' but it seemed to resemble basketball rather than football and didn't have a happy ending for some players.  Identify the first 'ball' ever used and you'd probably find the first person who kicked it too.

No, Ebeneezer didn't binvent Football, it was his proposal to form the FA. Which meant that a Football became organised

[Peabody]

Just a aside, apparently football's origins are Scottish, but there the origins might actually be Chinese. No doubt 'caveman' kicked small stones around, the kids surely would of.   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuju#:~:text=Invented%20in%20the%20Han%20dynasty,in%20Korea%2C%20Japan%20and%20Vietnam.

According to the movie I watched last night (Early Man), the game was invented by a tribe of stone age hunters who challenged bronze age city dwellers to a game to save their ancestral lands. They also wanted to improve their hunting skills to be able to eat mammoths rather than rabbits.


Was that film the Flintstones?

[filham]

Interesting post Peabody ,thanks.
PS. The word "Football" has yet to arrive in the States.

[rebel]

As aside, I invented the word 'internet', I was watching the girls play 'netball' at school, I said 'In-the-net', what we now call the 'internet'; would you 'adam and eve' it!! The rest is history.   

[rebel]

When did 'football' become 'football' is one of those pointless questions that has no real answer other than the arrival of the word 'football' (with the English meaning - foot and ball) in any other language. A lot of people must have kicked things around throughout history but the crucial thing someone eventually did was to find something that was reasonably round and could be kicked without risking injury.  The Mayans did have a courtyard sport involving 'balls' and 'goals' but it seemed to resemble basketball rather than football and didn't have a happy ending for some players.  Identify the first 'ball' ever used and you'd probably find the first person who kicked it too.

No, Ebeneezer didn't binvent Football, it was his proposal to form the FA. Which meant that a Football became organised

Peabody wasn't talking about 'origins', I introduced 'origins'.

[Fulham Tup North]

As aside, I invented the word 'internet', I was watching the girls play 'netball' at school, I said 'In-the-net', what we now call the 'internet'; would you 'adam and eve' it!! The rest is history.   

You were "watching girls play netball at school"??
Yeah....maybe keep that to yourself Rebel !!!😉👍
COYW

[rebel]

As aside, I invented the word 'internet', I was watching the girls play 'netball' at school, I said 'In-the-net', what we now call the 'internet'; would you 'adam and eve' it!! The rest is history.   

You were "watching girls play netball at school"??
Yeah....maybe keep that to yourself Rebel !!!😉👍
COYW

I was watching them netball whilst I was at school, happy to admit it.
I was voted the 'sexist boy' in the whole school by the girls in my year, they spent most of their time watching me.
Do you know the difference between 'netball' amd 'basketball'?

[Fulham Tup North]

Do you know the difference between 'netball' amd 'basketball'?
[/quote]
...apart from the players....being about 3 foot taller you mean??
😄

[rebel]

Do you know the difference between 'netball' amd 'basketball'?

...apart from the players....being about 3 foot taller you mean??
😄
[/quote]

The Rules.

[Fulham Tup North]

Netballers stand still with the ball....basketballers run with it (apart from when they are travelling of course)... that's about my limit....👍😄

[RaySmith]

Football becoming organised is the crucial thing, as Peabody says.

Is the  growth of organised sport as we know it today, to do with the Victorians and the growth of cites and factory production methods? Men working together in a team in a factory, and i their leisure time they  played together in organised sport with rules, like  number of players per team, and time limits, as in a factory. 'Play' as a  kind of work, good for you.
Before   I think  there were  various games with a ball, where the whole town would turn out, maybe drunk, battling to get a ball from one village to the other, as you still get in some places carried on traditionally on a Bank Holiday.

There  was also the growth of public health awareness - the idea of 'a healthy mind in a healthy body' -
exercise was good for you in mind and body, instead of sitting around getting drunk in the pub.
Also a good way to direct the masses' energy, away from public disorder and crime, or ideas of revolution.

[kiwian]

Just a aside, apparently football's origins are Scottish, but there the origins might actually be Chinese. No doubt 'caveman' kicked small stones around, the kids surely would of.   

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuju#:~:text=Invented%20in%20the%20Han%20dynasty,in%20Korea%2C%20Japan%20and%20Vietnam.

According to the movie I watched last night (Early Man), the game was invented by a tribe of stone age hunters who challenged bronze age city dwellers to a game to save their ancestral lands. They also wanted to improve their hunting skills to be able to eat mammoths rather than rabbits.


Was that film the Flintstones?

No it was called Early Man, a claymation film for kids (and the young at heart).