Preston Goal

[northamptonsteve]

Forget the 2 handball what about the elbow in Rodaks chin!

[Ronnief]

1 Foul on Rodak
2 Offside when ball hit forward
3 Hand ball.
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[The Cravenette]

Definitely several reasons to disallow. Sky not even mentioned the block on Rodak, which would be a foul in 90% of games.

[WolverineFFC]

1 Foul on Rodak
2 Offside when ball hit forward
3 Hand ball.
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Your right, didn't even think about the fact it was offside the minute it hit the first arm. Fulham did not have anybody on the line.

[Nero]

But who was marking Evans

[ChesterTheTabby]

But who was marking Evans

Evan's was playing like a total winker all game once he came on... didn't think I'd dislike him so much.

[grandad]

Foul on Rodak
One handball
Offside
Second handball.

How could the Officials miss all those offences?

[Nero]

But who was marking Evans

Evan's was playing like a total winker all game once he came on... didn't think I'd dislike him so much.

Yes  I've heard he likes to get involved

[LittleErn]

Just watched the goal replays. Reasons why VAR would have disallowed it: Foul on Rodak. Handball (not the scorer - the previous one that was obviously deliberate). Scorer offside (there have to be TWO defenders playing him onside, normally one is the goalkeeper so linos just look for one other. In this case the goalie was taken out of the equation leaving the scorer with only one defender -so offside

[bobbo]

Foul on Rodak
One handball
Offside
Second handball.

How could the Officials miss all those offences?

because it happens at the speed of light and so many bodies in line of vision.
I know it's a million miles away from football league refereeing but when I reffed only up to Athenian league — butwatch where the refs stand -out on the edge of the pen area with too many bodies in the way - at corners/ free kicks they should Stand a foot off the pitch on the far post , you'll see it all then. Still think the ref was better than most today . I guess they're instructed to stand where they do.

[WestSussexWhite]

Foul on Rodak
One handball
Offside
Second handball.

How could the Officials miss all those offences?

because it happens at the speed of light and so many bodies in line of vision.
I know it's a million miles away from football league refereeing but when I reffed only up to Athenian league — butwatch where the refs stand -out on the edge of the pen area with too many bodies in the way - at corners/ free kicks they should Stand a foot off the pitch on the far post , you'll see it all then. Still think the ref was better than most today . I guess they're instructed to stand where they do.

I refereeed some combined counties games, and I think the referee today is possibly one of the worst I've seen at any levels. The handballs were obvious, he let the crowd referee the game in the 2nd half, and lost control of it very early into the 2nd half.

[junior white]

The handball I rule was changed over the summer, so Lemina's last year would have stood now so that was never going to be cancelled.

I thought the main thing was a foul, Chris Kavanagh has been sent out to do championship games as people were unhappy with his prem reffing

[WestSussexWhite]

The handball I rule was changed over the summer, so Lemina's last year would have stood now so that was never going to be cancelled.

I thought the main thing was a foul, Chris Kate=a agh has been sent out to do championship games as people were unhappy with his prem reffing
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That doesn't excuse the offside either...

[G_Gribby]

Is it possible for the club to send in a protest?
I mean is it even possible to have so many errors at once?

[andyk]

Rodak has to get a defender between him and the guy who obstructs him. We can't really complain about players blocking at corners, we do it all the time and have scored several goals because of it.
Then Rodak has got to be stronger and railroad his way to that ball, floating in the six yard box.

[junior white]

The handball I rule was changed over the summer, so Lemina's last year would have stood now so that was never going to be cancelled.

I thought the main thing was a foul, Chris Kate=a agh has been sent out to do championship games as people were unhappy with his prem reffing
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That doesn't excuse the offside either...

It doesnt but for a Lino i think with bodies across th box wa sharper to see than the foul. The ref should have spotted that in my opinion

[copthornemike]

Obviously goal should have been disallowed - both handballs in themselves (even if unintended/above 'teeshirt line'/arm in a 'natural' position handball) results in no goal. Off side as well of course.
Obstructing Rodak - always a contentious point.
However most refs would have sent off Robinson for excessive force / feet off ground even if he did not go through Barkhuizen to get the ball. We would have expected a red if a PNE player had committed a similar tackle!
In the round a red card probably would have resulted in a defeat and today's poor performance was not down to poor refereeing.
Mind you if I was a betting man I would be tempted to bet on Ched Evans getting a ref card in the next match he starts!

[Bill2]

Obviously goal should have been disallowed - both handballs in themselves (even if unintended/above 'teeshirt line'/arm in a 'natural' position handball) results in no goal. Off side as well of course.
Obstructing Rodak - always a contentious point.
However most refs would have sent off Rodak for excessive force / feet off ground even if he did not go through Barkhuizen to get the ball. We would have expected a red if a PNE player had committed a similar tackle!
In the round a red card probably would have resulted in a defeat and today's poor performance was not down to poor refereeing.
Mind you if I was a betting man I would be tempted to bet on Ched Evans getting a ref card in the next match he starts!

Just seen the incidents on Sky sports news. My view is Robinson only a yellow as he was on the ground when making contact, he tried for the ball and did not really catch the player more on the follow through and the player went over him. As for the goal, couldn't see the offside but Rodak was definitely impeded, the PNE player made no attempt to play the ball and his elbow caught Rodak round the head. As for handball the first was as it was being used to block Rodak so not by his side, the second not really as Evans arm was across his chest. So unless there is a rule that you cannot score with a rebound off your arm which I am not sure about it is a goal if you ignore the earlier fouls. As for the pundit Alex Neil ex PNE manager he said that is what  they deserved. You get what you deserve by sticking the ball in the net and if you don't do that you deserve nothing.

[Bill2]

The handball I rule was changed over the summer, so Lemina's last year would have stood now so that was never going to be cancelled.

I thought the main thing was a foul, Chris Kavanagh has been sent out to do championship games as people were unhappy with his prem reffing

Lemina's handball was completely different,  his arm was down by his side exactly like he was standing to attention. This one was with his hands up in the air and outside the line of his body if anything making his body shape bigger. If you compare the way defenders try to block a cross they have the hands behind their backs. As they know if their arms are outside the line of their body it is handball, so what is the difference.

[Craven_Chris]

As for the goal, couldn't see the offside but Rodak was definitely impeded, .

Regarding the offside, it wasn't the scorer it was the other guy, Emile Riis Jakobsen: with no player on the line, he was level with Rodák and interfered with play when he obstructed Rodák and then again when the ball hit his arm. So even if the officials could not see the arm contact through the crowd, and even if they didn't think he fouled Rodák, they should still have seen that he was in an offside position throughout the sequence of events!