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Derby County

Started by Peabody, January 26, 2022, 08:57:39 AM

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Peabody

I have been around for a long time, including the Fulham Park Rangers fiasco. A long time ago Derby fans robbed us us, by their behaviour, of promotion. Is it not time that we forgave them and joined them in their fight to survive. In fact, it wasn't them that lost us promo, it was the fact that they scored and we didn't. However, they did prevent us from playing the full game.

Those of us who were around then, just think back to how we felt then. The thought that there would be no Derby is, as we know very very upsetting.

HV71

Quote from: Peabody on January 26, 2022, 08:57:39 AM
I have been around for a long time, including the Fulham Park Rangers fiasco. A long time ago Derby fans robbed us us, by their behaviour, of promotion. Is it not time that we forgave them and joined them in their fight to survive. In fact, it wasn't them that lost us promo, it was the fact that they scored and we didn't. However, they did prevent us from playing the full game.

Those of us who were around then, just think back to how we felt then. The thought that there would be no Derby is, as we know very very upsetting.


Very well said Peabody  - extremely magnanimous of you and a credit to our supporters and club

MikeTheCubed

Did we not lay the ghost of '83 to rest by beating them in the Playoffs on our way to promotion?


bobbo

Quote from: Peabody on January 26, 2022, 08:57:39 AM
I have been around for a long time, including the Fulham Park Rangers fiasco. A long time ago Derby fans robbed us us, by their behaviour, of promotion. Is it not time that we forgave them and joined them in their fight to survive. In fact, it wasn't them that lost us promo, it was the fact that they scored and we didn't. However, they did prevent us from playing the full game.

Those of us who were around then, just think back to how we felt then. The thought that there would be no Derby is, as we know very very upsetting.
yep Peabody , nobody has been so vehement or carried a grudge like I have but even I am buckling a bit now for their plight .Their fans have had no say in what's happing ther or if they do it's counted for nothing.
1975 just leaving home full of hope

davew

Grandson of a Former Director of FFC (served 1954 - 1968)

bog

Well said Peabody. This club cannot become another Bury because of useless ownership. It is always the supporters who suffer the most. As a neutral I really hope they survive.   


filham

Yes , I am with you Peabody. Before that terrible match which cost us promotion I always had great respect for Derby and their players.
Any one else old enough to remember the great Raich Carter.

andyk

I've never been, particularly , bothered by the Derby fans crowding the pitch that day, all those years ago. 
Lets face it, we were, probably, not going to score two goals in the few minutes remaining.   
Derby County is a great football club and we should all support them in their fight to survive.  We've been there and it is a horrible experience, watching as the big beasts of corporate wealth circle around your club, looking to chop it up and devour it. 

Holders

I'd like to see them stay up. They have a chance and if they do so it'll be a real achievement. As a Fulham fan, I've always been an underdog man.
Non sumus statione ferriviaria


f321ffc

Wonder what Robert Wilson's view of this is, I don't want them to go out of business but I will never forgive or forget them for that day.
Growing old is mandatory
Growing up is optional

blingo

I'm with you on this one Mr Peabody. Life is far too short to hold such grudges. What's the point? At the end of the day you have to take your hat off to Rooney who is doing a fantastic job with no resources, and the players are fighting for the survival of the club.
I hope they survive, for their fans. We have been in danger of dropping out of the league and for the fans it's heart breaking, the average guy in the street, who works and goes to see his team on a Saturday deserves more than the powers that be at Derby have served up.

cookieg

Gone are the days of the businessman owning his local club. Football is now a business and subject to the ups and downs as is any other business. Badly run companies go out of business every day why should a football club be any different? Even well run companies fold for reasons beyond their control.

The need for instant success means clubs are borrowing more and more money, paying silly money for players and not paying HMRC. Maybe more clubs need to go out of business for those at the top of the game realise that things need to change. If ManUre went bust then I'm sure something would change immediately.

We are lucky that we have an owner with a silly amount of money who can afford to lose a few million and is investing in our future. Not all clubs are so lucky.


Mr K.Dilkington

No club should be allowed to go out of existence
Foolish ham

Andy S

Yes but it shouldn't be down to luck.i find it hard to forgive what happened on that day all those years ago. But it is a completely different club these days. Derby were lucky then but most of those supporters probably don't even go to matches any more. The ones that do don't deserve this rubbish. Football is there to help the working person to take their mind off of real life problems at home and work

jarv

I don't like to see any football team in trouble.  All teams, including non league, have supporters who love their team/club. Teams are an integral part of communities but unfortunately this problem keeps raising it's ugly head. Often caused by greedy or unscrupulous owners.  (Ernie Clay!!!)

One piece of the jigsaw is probably the "fit and proper test" which I suspect is not fit for purpose.


Mr K.Dilkington

Quote from: jarv on January 26, 2022, 01:44:01 PM
I don't like to see any football team in trouble.  All teams, including non league, have supporters who love their team/club. Teams are an integral part of communities but unfortunately this problem keeps raising it's ugly head. Often caused by greedy or unscrupulous owners.  (Ernie Clay!!!)

One piece of the jigsaw is probably the "fit and proper test" which I suspect is not fit for purpose.
+1
Foolish ham

Riversider

Quote from: f321ffc on January 26, 2022, 10:40:05 AM
Wonder what Robert Wilson's view of this is, I don't want them to go out of business but I will never forgive or forget them for that day.
Absolutely, penned by somebody that was actually there, like myself,  if you weren't there that day it's virtually impossible for you to comment,  a truly horrendous day that at times felt like you were fighting for your life,
**** Derby County and **** their supporters,
I hope their club survives but I hate to see Fulham supporters feeling sorry for them and showing pity, they are not entitled to that from us.

Ruislip Ray

Well said Riversider, totally agree 100%.


MartyFFC

No football fan should ever want another team to go bust, however, I'll be more than happy if they end up in league 2

cookieg

Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2022, 12:28:47 PM
No club should be allowed to go out of existence

However badly they are run? And who would bail them out, the tax payer? If that team from down the road had gone bust before the  Russian oligarch with corrupt money bought them would anyone have cared? I wouldn't have.