Zambo Anguissa permanent transfer

[Texas White]

There's no way Areola or Anderson would play in the championship but I bet most fans would take them back in a heartbeat.

Maybe so but don't confuse loanees with permanent transfers. Anguissa  signed for the club , was part of a team that got relegated , and decided that he didn't want to play in the Championship ( when he was as much of a problem as the rest ) . Wrong attitude as far as I am concerned

Agreed.

[The Rational Fan]

He wanted to leave. Why would we want to keep someone who doesn't want to fight for us? Good player but no loyalty.

None of these players are truly loyal to us, the ones that want to stay are those who don't have a better offer. After our promotion, Harrison Reed wanted to join Crystal Palace until they were adding midfielders and he realized he might not start. Mitrovic could join Spurs as a bench player, but that could mean he loses his starting spot for Serbia which isn't a great offer.

[Mr K.Dilkington]

Don't want him, he is no club man, does not play within the framework of the team, poor ethics and players with his attitude are a bad smell in the Fulham dressing room.
Move him on he has shown his lack of commitment on more than one occasion.

I can't blame him for not wanting to play championship football but I do agree that I don't think he really cares about fulham so time to go our separate ways me thinks

Actually I do blame him for not wanting to play Championship football. It's only the second tier of football in one of the most competitive football leagues in the world. Our Championship is as good as the top tier in many countries.
And that's setting aside his complete failure to understand or honour any sort of commitment to his club.

Would you rather be playing for Napoli away to Milan in the San siro or on a wet Tuesday in Hull or at Peterborough?
That's the only question I pose because anguissa probably has never heard of either teams tbf to the lad. I get where you're coming from but I honestly think he made the right choice for him. Especially so if we just gave him away for 15 Mil. Says lots about how a club is run when you treat assets like that.

[The Rational Fan]

Don't want him, he is no club man, does not play within the framework of the team, poor ethics and players with his attitude are a bad smell in the Fulham dressing room.
Move him on he has shown his lack of commitment on more than one occasion.

I can't blame him for not wanting to play championship football but I do agree that I don't think he really cares about fulham so time to go our separate ways me thinks

Actually I do blame him for not wanting to play Championship football. It's only the second tier of football in one of the most competitive football leagues in the world. Our Championship is as good as the top tier in many countries.
And that's setting aside his complete failure to understand or honour any sort of commitment to his club.

Would you rather be playing for Napoli away to Milan in the San siro or on a wet Tuesday in Hull or at Peterborough?
That's the only question I pose because anguissa probably has never heard of either teams tbf to the lad. I get where you're coming from but I honestly think he made the right choice for him. Especially so if we just gave him away for 15 Mil. Says lots about how a club is run when you treat assets like that.

It seems only Anguissa's Agent and Anguissa'a family talks to Anguissa about career decisions, both of whom don't share their advice.

For all we know Anguissa is probably happy to play for Fulham in the second tier, but he has an agent that advises him on career decisions and after listening to the agent's advice, we know Anguissa would prefer to play for Napoli in Serie A than Fulham in the Second Tier.

Anguissa seems like the kind of person that listens to his advisors, whether it is his agent or coach, that isn't a bad thing and doesn't make him disloyal besides we weren't the academy that taught him football.

[perry geyton]

If Napoli do not want to pay the money tell them to get lost and integrate Anguissa into our Premier League squad - he was very good last year and I am sure Marco would be able to get even more out of him - it would also mean one less player to buy!

If Napoli do not want to pay the money tell them to get lost and integrate Anguissa into our Premier League squad - he was very good last year and I am sure Marco would be able to get even more out of him - it would also mean one less player to buy!

Not sure I really wanna go there again, boy has zero loyalty
Time to move on I reckon plus Seri is a far more positive player

[rogerpbackinMidEastUS]

A very intelligent thread and lots of excellent posts from people with knowledge
and sensible opinions.
It's the longest thread I've managed to read for a while and still be interested
and...no BS !
Well done chaps

[Woolly Mammoth]

Zambo and i agree on one thing which is that neither of us want to see him at Fulham.

Zambo because playing with Fulham players in the Championship alongside Mitro, Wilson, Fabio, Reed, Tete, Tosin, Seri, Kebano and the rest of the boys that have worked their socks off to see Fulham sailing towards promotion at the summit of the Championship playing attractive attacking football is not good enough for him.
and........

I don't want a big time Charlie like him with an attitude that stinks no matter what.
On top of that why risk fracturing the dressing over one surly player with poor ethics.

[Twig]

Don't want him, he is no club man, does not play within the framework of the team, poor ethics and players with his attitude are a bad smell in the Fulham dressing room.
Move him on he has shown his lack of commitment on more than one occasion.

I can't blame him for not wanting to play championship football but I do agree that I don't think he really cares about fulham so time to go our separate ways me thinks

Actually I do blame him for not wanting to play Championship football. It's only the second tier of football in one of the most competitive football leagues in the world. Our Championship is as good as the top tier in many countries.
And that's setting aside his complete failure to understand or honour any sort of commitment to his club.

Would you rather be playing for Napoli away to Milan in the San siro or on a wet Tuesday in Hull or at Peterborough?
That's the only question I pose because anguissa probably has never heard of either teams tbf to the lad. I get where you're coming from but I honestly think he made the right choice for him. Especially so if we just gave him away for 15 Mil. Says lots about how a club is run when you treat assets like that.

Let's be clear Zambo wasn't a loanee or a fringe participant, he was an integral part of the first team that got relegated. Having done so he went on strike because he point blank refused to drop one division along with his teammates. It doesn't matter which teams he's heard of (and anyhow that's just a guess), his attitude was purely to do "the right thing for Zambo Anguissa and sod Fulham". For that, yes I do blame him. Just think where we'd have been if ten or fifteen payers had all downed tools, madness.

[Sting of the North]

Don't want him, he is no club man, does not play within the framework of the team, poor ethics and players with his attitude are a bad smell in the Fulham dressing room.
Move him on he has shown his lack of commitment on more than one occasion.

I can't blame him for not wanting to play championship football but I do agree that I don't think he really cares about fulham so time to go our separate ways me thinks

Actually I do blame him for not wanting to play Championship football. It's only the second tier of football in one of the most competitive football leagues in the world. Our Championship is as good as the top tier in many countries.
And that's setting aside his complete failure to understand or honour any sort of commitment to his club.

Would you rather be playing for Napoli away to Milan in the San siro or on a wet Tuesday in Hull or at Peterborough?
That's the only question I pose because anguissa probably has never heard of either teams tbf to the lad. I get where you're coming from but I honestly think he made the right choice for him. Especially so if we just gave him away for 15 Mil. Says lots about how a club is run when you treat assets like that.

Let's be clear Zambo wasn't a loanee or a fringe participant, he was an integral part of the first team that got relegated. Having done so he went on strike because he point blank refused to drop one division along with his teammates. It doesn't matter which teams he's heard of (and anyhow that's just a guess), his attitude was purely to do "the right thing for Zambo Anguissa and sod Fulham". For that, yes I do blame him. Just think where we'd have been if ten or fifteen payers had all downed tools, madness.

This "strike" thing is news to me. Has that been reported anywhere? Also, if you remember Anguissa did play for us this season, which doesn't sound like a player on strike. Has this actually happened, or is it yet another creation of the famous internet (honest question)?

Also, agree with TRF that probably most of our players would have happily left for a bigger club if they had offers. This loyalty thing is highly suspect in my opinion. Had Leicester made an offer for Reed he would most likely happily have left in the blink of an eye, or if Wolves had activated Tosin's clause he would not be here anymore. As some examples. There may be some exceptions, I believe for example that some players like Mitro really loves it here, which means that it would take more to tempt him to move.

What is important is how players act when they do represent Fulham, and I can't recall Anguissa not giving his all for Fulham when he's been on the field.

Frankly, this sounds almost exactly like the Seri debate, until he was given a proper run under a good manager and all of a sudden many posters conveniently forgot that they never wanted to see him in a Fulham shirt again.

If he actually in reality refused to play for Fulham in the Championship however I lean more towards not wanting him, but still prefer to give people more chances since it may actually be in the best interest of the club.

[StuinSalop]

From the day we purchased Frank I have always stood up for him, said he needed time and could see that he has a lot of talent.  That said, I now believe he has outlived his time as a Fulham employee and needs to move on.  He is still an excellent player but there is a lack of significant output, ie assists and goals.  One last thing, if we had him in the championship I suspect we would be in trouble with FFP, we may not have been able to get Wilson and certainly not Williams so I think it was in Fulhams interest to loan him out.

[HV71]

Quote " What is important is how players act when they do represent Fulham, and I can't recall Anguissa not giving his all for Fulham when he's been on the field. "


Well if he was giving his all - then his impact was "buxxer all " . Doesn't score , assists?? , tackles ?

As someone has already posted " neat and tidy - yes " - so is my wardrobe  -which excites me more than seeing him in a Fulham shirt

[Deeping_white]

Quote " What is important is how players act when they do represent Fulham, and I can't recall Anguissa not giving his all for Fulham when he's been on the field. "


Well if he was giving his all - then his impact was "buxxer all " . Doesn't score , assists?? , tackles ?

As someone has already posted " neat and tidy - yes " - so is my wardrobe  -which excites me more than seeing him in a Fulham shirt

Harrison Reed didn't score or assist in the PL and he's also not looked likely to in 3 years now but that doesn't seem to be an issue for some people. Anguissa also had better tackling stats as he made 15 more last season; stat - https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/total_tackle (filter to 20/21 and then Fulham)

[Jim©]

Our midfield has not regularly been up to expectation this season

Wow, I genuinely am not sure what games you watch. Our MF are one of the reasons we're about to break all sorts of records.

[HV71]

Harrison Reed / Anguissa  - I know which one I would rather be playing alongside

[Sting of the North]

Quote " What is important is how players act when they do represent Fulham, and I can't recall Anguissa not giving his all for Fulham when he's been on the field. "


Well if he was giving his all - then his impact was "buxxer all " . Doesn't score , assists?? , tackles ?

As someone has already posted " neat and tidy - yes " - so is my wardrobe  -which excites me more than seeing him in a Fulham shirt

Harrison Reed didn't score or assist in the PL and he's also not looked likely to in 3 years now but that doesn't seem to be an issue for some people. Anguissa also had better tackling stats as he made 15 more last season; stat - https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/total_tackle (filter to 20/21 and then Fulham)

:plus one:

We need more of this to move the debate from gut feeling to reality.

[Sting of the North]

Harrison Reed / Anguissa  - I know which one I would rather be playing alongside

Me too, I would prefer the better player, and in my opinion that is Anguissa by some distance. But I see that there is clearly a difference of opinion on here.

[FFC1987]

Harrison Reed / Anguissa  - I know which one I would rather be playing alongside

Me too, I would prefer the better player, and in my opinion that is Anguissa by some distance. But I see that there is clearly a difference of opinion on here.

They're different players/positions though aren't they?

[HV71]

I agree that Anguissa is probably more talented -  but as for application ?????.......as you would say " only my opinion of course "
If only we could ask someone like Tim Ream who he would rather play with

[Sting of the North]

Harrison Reed / Anguissa  - I know which one I would rather be playing alongside

Me too, I would prefer the better player, and in my opinion that is Anguissa by some distance. But I see that there is clearly a difference of opinion on here.

They're different players/positions though aren't they?

Well, in this hypothethical scenario with me playing for Fulham I would be happy to adapt my game to suit the other midfield player  :dft012:

[FFC1987]

Harrison Reed / Anguissa  - I know which one I would rather be playing alongside

Me too, I would prefer the better player, and in my opinion that is Anguissa by some distance. But I see that there is clearly a difference of opinion on here.

They're different players/positions though aren't they?

Well, in this hypothethical scenario with me playing for Fulham I would be happy to adapt my game to suit the other midfield player  :dft012:

That I can definitely get behind!