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silva to blame

Started by ALG01, March 16, 2022, 10:29:07 AM

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ALG01

silva is a wonderful manager and I lovew how he has changed the team's approach and the adventurous style
BUT
Against WBA he got his team selection and tactics very wrong and took forever to make the necessary changes.

As a result of his poor tactics and team selection we saw terror run through the team and the confidence simply left all of them.

The idea of having no proper creative midfielder meaning seri or cairney on the pitch is ludicrous. surely as a minimum they could have done a half each. BDR on the left wing simply does not work.

as it was we invited WBA onto us and allowed them to look like worlkd beaters.

It did not help that mitro did not look 100% himself and seemed half a yard short of pace.

Once tom finally came on we started to look the part and cav certainly showed some life on the left that occupied their players, he should have been on from the start.

Silva was to blame for the poor performance, I saw it coming from the moment I saw the ridiculous team selection.

I still love him and usually he gets the team to bounce back in the game following a poor match so I hope that is so this time.

MartyFFC

I think people need to accept that you can't win every single game of football; there's really no need to start apportioning blame. Just look at the league table.

Mr K.Dilkington

I think this was just a game too far and I wasn't super confident going in...we'll have a break and regroup,it's still 11 points and was lucky b'mouth somehow managed to only draw
Foolish ham


rebel

#3
Quote from: ALG01 on March 16, 2022, 10:29:07 AM
silva is a wonderful manager and I lovew how he has changed the team's approach and the adventurous style
BUT
Against WBA he got his team selection and tactics very wrong and took forever to make the necessary changes.

As a result of his poor tactics and team selection we saw terror run through the team and the confidence simply left all of them.

The idea of having no proper creative midfielder meaning seri or cairney on the pitch is ludicrous. surely as a minimum they could have done a half each. BDR on the left wing simply does not work.

as it was we invited WBA onto us and allowed them to look like worlkd beaters.

It did not help that mitro did not look 100% himself and seemed half a yard short of pace.

Once tom finally came on we started to look the part and cav certainly showed some life on the left that occupied their players, he should have been on from the start.

Silva was to blame for the poor performance, I saw it coming from the moment I saw the ridiculous team selection.

I still love him and usually he gets the team to bounce back in the game following a poor match so I hope that is so this time.

Agree 100%, I think the substitutions needed to be made at 1/2 time, we weren't in the match.

PaulJ123

I think the tactics were wrong.

And the sooner he stops playing Reed as an 8, the better. He charges about so with Fab running behind Mitro, we have no one in midfield and lose control. Cairney needs to start there.

filham

Fully agree with the OP, our midfield lacked a playmaker, Cairney or Seri should have started.
Chalobah was prefered to counter the concern about Caroll and their other big strikers. Hopefully Silva will not make the same mistake again.


FFC In Oz

Quote from: filham on March 16, 2022, 01:08:34 PM
Fully agree with the OP, our midfield lacked a playmaker, Cairney or Seri should have started.
Chalobah was prefered to counter the concern about Caroll and their other big strikers. Hopefully Silva will not make the same mistake again.

+1.

We have barely any creativity and no CM who can play a killer ball when Cairney and/or Seri aren't playing.

Black and White Town

Even the best teams in the world have off days where for various reasons they don't play as well as they can.
We put it behind us and go again

ALG01

Quote from: Black and White Town on March 16, 2022, 03:07:25 PM
Even the best teams in the world have off days where for various reasons they don't play as well as they can.
We put it behind us and go again

That's true but in defeat we have to learn what went wrong and if it was correctable or just a bad day at the office and unfortunately this time, the team selection spoke volumes.

we have not been that good recently and team selection is an issue. we were poor at swansea until the sending off, poor at barnsley and now again. We may still have lost but to play without a 'playmaker' because you are worried that wba have a few big blokes is not a clever thing to do and it backfired.


Black and White Town

Quote from: ALG01 on March 16, 2022, 03:15:52 PM
Quote from: Black and White Town on March 16, 2022, 03:07:25 PM
Even the best teams in the world have off days where for various reasons they don't play as well as they can.
We put it behind us and go again

That's true but in defeat we have to learn what went wrong and if it was correctable or just a bad day at the office and unfortunately this time, the team selection spoke volumes.

we have not been that good recently and team selection is an issue. we were poor at swansea until the sending off, poor at barnsley and now again. We may still have lost but to play without a 'playmaker' because you are worried that wba have a few big blokes is not a clever thing to do and it backfired.

Absolutely. Every match, whether we win or not, they should be reviewing it and seeing what could be improved, could we have done better, etc.

Twig

#10
Absolutely love Silva but I don't think he got his team selection right and his subs were far too late. Added to which I'd have hooked off Chalobah as a first priority, how he played out the full 90 is beyond me.

Sting of the North

Quote from: ALG01 on March 16, 2022, 03:15:52 PM
Quote from: Black and White Town on March 16, 2022, 03:07:25 PM
Even the best teams in the world have off days where for various reasons they don't play as well as they can.
We put it behind us and go again

That's true but in defeat we have to learn what went wrong and if it was correctable or just a bad day at the office and unfortunately this time, the team selection spoke volumes.

we have not been that good recently and team selection is an issue. we were poor at swansea until the sending off, poor at barnsley and now again. We may still have lost but to play without a 'playmaker' because you are worried that wba have a few big blokes is not a clever thing to do and it backfired.

I agree with you. My worry before the game was that we were trying to beat WBA at their game. We failed miserably in that regard because we don't have any good defensive midfielders. We would have been way better off trying to outplay them with talent instead. In my opinion.


Milo

Kebano clearly needs to start LW every game when fit.
Reed as a box to box midfielder is a square peg in a round hole.
Cairney or Seri needs to start each game to give us control in midfield.

Personally!

However Silva has done a great job, and it's tough to criticise when things going well. However I do think the above is fairly obvious and will take us to the next level.

filham

Quote from: Black and White Town on March 16, 2022, 03:35:54 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on March 16, 2022, 03:15:52 PM
Quote from: Black and White Town on March 16, 2022, 03:07:25 PM
Even the best teams in the world have off days where for various reasons they don't play as well as they can.
We put it behind us and go again

That's true but in defeat we have to learn what went wrong and if it was correctable or just a bad day at the office and unfortunately this time, the team selection spoke volumes.

we have not been that good recently and team selection is an issue. we were poor at swansea until the sending off, poor at barnsley and now again. We may still have lost but to play without a 'playmaker' because you are worried that wba have a few big blokes is not a clever thing to do and it backfired.

Absolutely. Every match, whether we win or not, they should be reviewing it and seeing what could be improved, could we have done better, etc.
That defeat was overwhelming and more than jus a bad day at the office and the writing has been on the wall for a while.
Silva has some thinking to do coupled with hard work on the training ground.

Twig

I just hope Silva doesn't have any blind spots the way some of our previous managers have.  Tigana persisting with Marlet as a central striker, Parker with Cav in a similar role.  If Chalobah isn't up to snuff then it's better for Silva to accept he got this transfer wrong rather than persist to the detriment of the team and results.


Southcoastffc

Jeepers - what a lot of doom-mongering!  We've been privileged to watch a host of wonderfully entertaining football under Marco Silva's tutelage this season and now that we've hit a lumpy patch he's a target man.  Only the management know how fit or otherwise players are; only they see the training sessions; only they are aware of players' readiness to play and capability of pursuing particular tactics.
The world is made up of electrons, protons, neurons, possibly muons and, definitely, morons.

blingo

I'm guessing that another loss and you guys will be calling for Silva to be replaced as the useless manager who only managed to keep an 11 point lead at the top of the table and turned the team around from Parker ball to the best team in the championship by a country mile. Absolutely incredible.

bobby01

Quote from: blingo on March 16, 2022, 05:53:31 PM
I'm guessing that another loss and you guys will be calling for Silva to be replaced as the useless manager who only managed to keep an 11 point lead at the top of the table and turned the team around from Parker ball to the best team in the championship by a country mile. Absolutely incredible.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on March 16, 2022, 05:38:36 PM
Jeepers - what a lot of doom-mongering!  We've been privileged to watch a host of wonderfully entertaining football under Marco Silva's tutelage this season and now that we've hit a lumpy patch he's a target man.  Only the management know how fit or otherwise players are; only they see the training sessions; only they are aware of players' readiness to play and capability of pursuing particular tactics.


Absolutely ridiculous reaction from so many to a 1-0 loss, at least the two above have some realism.
Watching the ups and downs since 1958, wouldn't have it any other way, what a roller coaster of a club.


john dempsey

At least TK. is not in the firing line (YET).

bigalffc

Unless Seri or Cairney are unfit I would never start Chalobah
Instead of seeing the rug being pulled from under us we can learn to dance on a shifting carpet - Thomas Crum