I don’t care

[Mince n Tatties]

Have not seen any of the game but let us consider a few points. Sheffield had to win to guarantee a play off spot, no doubt they were fired up for it. We were promoted fielding a team where a number of the players have not had a lot of game time this season and will probably not be with us next season. Finally we had won the title and it was a nothing game, were they going to dive into those tackles where you can get injured, and no doubt they had all consumed some celebratory drinks in the previous week.
So prepared to overlook this result and let's move on.

The other side to that is called professionalism.
Sheff Utd before yesterday weren't the only side fighting for a place,Luton,Boro and Millwall were.
I know if  Fulham were in the position any of them sides were in and the Champions layed down and had their tummies tickled I'd be peeved about it.

[ALG01]

I went the atmosphere was good but i was disapointed with the team selection and clear lack of organisation in the game. I go to watch my team so expect them to perform to the maximum. I know the result counted for nothing save that there were records still to be broken, but it seems to me much of what i read is not about football and enjoying the game itself but about atmosphere, clackers, singing... i want the team to play well and don't  give a stuff how loud our support is.

I think after driving four hours i am entitled to see a properly prepared team, which they clearly were not. Little carv, kebano bdr and ream were the only ones that really looked the part, the rest, didn't  look bothered and tha was a bad sign.

And by the way some of the behaviour of our support fell a little short. Too much drink and too little manners made me uneasy and i will eloborate, for those that are interested in more detail, when i vome home from the game in a few days.

[rebel]

I went the atmosphere was good but i was disapointed with the team selection and clear lack of organisation in the game. I go to watch my team so expect them to perform to the maximum. I know the result counted for nothing save that there were records still to be broken, but it seems to me much of what i read is not about football and enjoying the game itself but about atmosphere, clackers, singing... i want the team to play well and don't  give a stuff how loud our support is.

I think after driving four hours i am entitled to see a properly prepared team, which they clearly were not. Little carv, kebano bdr and ream were the only ones that really looked the part, the rest, didn't  look bothered and tha was a bad sign.

And by the way some of the behaviour of our support fell a little short. Too much drink and too little manners made me uneasy and i will eloborate, for those that are interested in more detail, when i vome home from the game in a few days.

Exactly that, even when we went 2 - 0, there was no 'reaction', a team at the top would give something, but no, there was nothing.
Even if they set up to defend for the next 15 - 20 minutes, that would have been something.

[filham]

Of course you are quite right Peabody but can't help wondering what went wrong over the last ten games or so when our form looked closer to relegation than champions.

I will plead guilty to having a moan following a bad Fulham performance, I find it hard to be full of praise under such circumstances but I am not alone.
Our poor form kicked in before promotion was secure and it would be interesting to discuss the possible reasons, we certainly don't want a similar period at the end of next season when we could well be hovering just outside the drop zone with ten games to go.

[toshes mate]

Have not seen any of the game but let us consider a few points. Sheffield had to win to guarantee a play off spot, no doubt they were fired up for it. We were promoted fielding a team where a number of the players have not had a lot of game time this season and will probably not be with us next season. Finally we had won the title and it was a nothing game, were they going to dive into those tackles where you can get injured, and no doubt they had all consumed some celebratory drinks in the previous week.
So prepared to overlook this result and let's move on.

The other side to that is called professionalism.
Sheff Utd before yesterday weren't the only side fighting for a place,Luton,Boro and Millwall were.
I know if  Fulham were in the position any of them sides were in and the Champions layed down and had their tummies tickled I'd be peeved about it.

The magic word - professionalism - which is also why I was so disappointed with the team yesterday.  And 'we' who use that word are not alone as Marco Silva's after match comments allude to the same.  You do your job until the masterpiece is finished or the job is done and if you don't like it that way then you shouldn't be drawing your wages ...  we know who played and who couldn't be bothered and so will the coaching team.

[Fernhurst]

Well said Mr P.

Plus one

[SG]

Well said Sir. After some of the seasons we have seen and suffered our Championship should be savoured not devalued.  :clap_hands: :yay: 049:gif

This is I think only the 6th trophy our club has won in its 143 year history - 6th!! I don't blame the players one bit in savouring and enjoying the moment. They have given us so much pleasure over the last 9 months I will happily give them a free pass yesterday.

[KJS]

What some of you intolerant's have to say. This has been one of those seasons that ranks up there. Looking on Facebook, it would seem that those that travelled, seem to have had a great time, despite the result. No one is going to take away the joy of last Monday evening, so moan away and let's just wait and see what happens in the close season.

Completely agree just enjoy the season it was brilliant to see FFC playing football again 😎👍

[cottage expat]

When football become like a religion that nobody can criticise. That is when it becomes tedious. It has been a wonderful season right up until the end when we lost more than we won. It is no good trying to deny it because we can all see it. We can make excuses that once promotion was won we took our foot of the pedal.

However fans are not religious zealots. Fans have the right to admit the team had a disappointing last set of matches bar the 7-0 all be it against a weakened Luton. A wonderful season with a disappointing ending with much to consider for next season.




Well said!

If others don't care then that is the correct response. But MBs of football clubs tend not to abide by the only say positive things  club rule.

[RaySmith]

Listening to radio football phone-ins - well, fans are involved in giving their opinions on  most football programmes today, I see little evidence that  fans obey any club rules about only saying positive things about he club they support.

It's certainly never been the  case on this forum, or previous Fulham forums I've been on.

In fact, it's being positive, of being open to accusation that you follow an 'official' club line, that will get you  the most opprobrium.

But surely, if posters feel free to criticise the club, as they obviously are on here, quite rightly, shouldn't other fans be free to disagree with them?

Can we not respect each other's opinions, and debate without name calling?

[FFC1987]

Listening to radio football phone-ins - well, fans are involved in giving their opinions on  most football programmes today, I see little evidence that  fans obey any club rules about only saying positive things about he club they support.

It's certainly never been the  case on this forum, or previous Fulham forums I've been on.

In fact, it's being positive, of being open to accusation that you follow an 'official' club line, that will get you  the most opprobrium.

But surely, if posters feel free to criticise the club, as they obviously are on here, quite rightly, shouldn't other fans be free to disagree with them?

Can we not respect each other's opinions, and debate without name calling?

With all due respect, I don't know what forum you're on if being positive get's harsher words thrown at you than negative ones. As forums go, I find this one incredibly balanced at times.

[Arthur]

I don't agree Sheffield's first-half rush of goals was the result of a high press. Prior to their opening goal, our centre-backs had as much time on the ball as they could have expected playing away in a game of such importance for our opponents. We controlled the opening ten minutes. Comfortably. Unless my memory fools me, Sheffield's opening goal was the first touch by any of their players inside our penalty area. I find the notion we could have prevented their goals by adopting markedly different tactics at 0-1 unrealistic. Watch your man, don't fall over, don't give the ball away carelessly - these are not tactical instructions.

Nor do I think we were unprofessional. In my opinion, almost all the players tried - they weren't all playing well, but they were trying. When Carvalho's chance didn't go in on half time and then Sheffield took advantage of more uncertain defending just after the break, the game was well and truly over with 40 minutes still to play. Despite this, we stuck to the principle of our being a passing team. And despite that we were losing and, as individuals, many were far from at their best, we still seemed to care. At 0-4 in the latter stages of the second half, Sheffield broke away from a corner of ours. I saw nine outfield players running back as quickly as they could. Only one player chose to jog.

I thought Carvalho played well. He clearly wanted to go out on a good showing. Tete also played well. He was typically solid and reliable.

While a performance such as yesterday's serves to highlight how few players we have who would make the starting XI of other current P.L. teams (outside of the two that are already relegated), with a few exceptions, it wasn't a case of a lack of respect for the travelling support.

[Fulham 442]

I think it's less moaning more general concern about next year . We have been well beaten by teams well below next years level . We are going to find ourselves behind and in difficult situations a lot next year and we need to cope with it .
Maybe silva has already told some of the players they won't be here next year and it has caused a dip ?

It's been a fantastic season and huge improvement on our last championship campaign but this dip is undeniably a concern .

Completely agree ...

[rebel]

I don't agree Sheffield's first-half rush of goals was the result of a high press. Prior to their opening goal, our centre-backs had as much time on the ball as they could have expected playing away in a game of such importance for our opponents. We controlled the opening ten minutes. Comfortably. Unless my memory fools me, Sheffield's opening goal was the first touch by any of their players inside our penalty area. I find the notion we could have prevented their goals by adopting markedly different tactics at 0-1 unrealistic. Watch your man, don't fall over, don't give the ball away carelessly - these are not tactical instructions.

Nor do I think we were unprofessional. In my opinion, almost all the players tried - they weren't all playing well, but they were trying. When Carvalho's chance didn't go in on half time and then Sheffield took advantage of more uncertain defending just after the break, the game was well and truly over with 40 minutes still to play. Despite this, we stuck to the principle of our being a passing team. And despite that we were losing and, as individuals, many were far from at their best, we still seemed to care. At 0-4 in the latter stages of the second half, Sheffield broke away from a corner of ours. I saw nine outfield players running back as quickly as they could. Only one player chose to jog.

I thought Carvalho played well. He clearly wanted to go out on a good showing. Tete also played well. He was typically solid and reliable.

While a performance such as yesterday's serves to highlight how few players we have who would make the starting XI of other current P.L. teams (outside of the two that are already relegated), with a few exceptions, it wasn't a case of a lack of respect for the travelling support.

Your post fails on the following comment 'I don't agree Sheffield's first-half rush of goals was the result of a high press'.

Throughout the season, quite a few teams has done the same, the result hasn't been a 4 - 0 defeat, our defeats have mainly come from teams that hit us on the break and we've been too slow to get back.     

[Arthur]

I don't agree Sheffield's first-half rush of goals was the result of a high press.

Your post fails on the following comment 'I don't agree Sheffield's first-half rush of goals was the result of a high press'.

Throughout the season, quite a few teams has done the same, the result hasn't been a 4 - 0 defeat, our defeats have mainly come from teams that hit us on the break and we've been too slow to get back.     

It's a subjective opinion on my part, I agree, and if you think differently, so be it.

Your supporting thoughts cannot possibly alter my opinion, however. Telling me how you think other teams gained their successes against us bears no relevance to how Sheffield sought to play.

[ffcwickford]

I was there, we lost 4-0, the scoreline didn't reflect the game!

It was party central at Bramall Lane, those like myself, enjoyed it immensely even though we lost.

Our singing towards the blades fans when they were 4-0 up and as 'quiet as visitors to a library' was priceless.

We all enjoyed the day - it appears only the keyboard warriors, who are in a minority, didn't enjoy themselves.

[jarv]

It is hard wired into football supporters to complain when things are not perfect. This season, winning by a mile is about as close to perfect as possible.  Just enjoy it and wait til next season with some optimism, hopefully with a bit of strengthening in the squad.