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Anguissa: Merged

Started by perry geyton, May 12, 2022, 03:25:28 PM

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perry geyton

Quote from: Colton F.C. on September 09, 2022, 10:33:31 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on September 09, 2022, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 08, 2022, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: Andy S on May 12, 2022, 03:54:18 PM
Silva know best

Silva wanted Anguiissa out on loan to free up for Wilson. I am sure Silva likes Anguissa but Silva was happy with Seri, Reed, Cairney and Chalobah that were cheaper to keep.

Just no where remotely near being true. Silva said he wanted to keep him but he wanted to leave. Can you blame him? One of the best midfielders in the league and fans who don't know football wanted him out hahah.
One of the best midfielders in the league
Comical

Sadly can't make you understand football but it's nice you watch it for the pretty jerseys or whatever.
You are absolutely right Firebird.  For Anguissa read the late great Frank Large who managed to bang in plenty of goals for whatever club he played for except Fulham.  An extraordinary waste of talent.
Only thing he's ever Been right about is putting his left shoe on his left foot

gang

Frank Large was useless for every club he played for except Leicester, he was a clumsy lump with very little ball control.

RaySmith

Quote from: gang on September 11, 2022, 12:15:17 AM
Frank Large was useless for every club he played for except Leicester, he was a clumsy lump with very little ball control.

He always gave his all for the club, I remember, but was very unfortunate to be the replacement for Allan Clarke, whom fans were unhappy about being sold.

Clarke had scored freely, but Big Frank, hardly scored at all - did he even score a goal? but you couldn't fault his attitude. Whereas many question Anguissa's attitude.
Anguissa certainly had potential, a bit like RLC who played alongside him, but was never very effective for us, for whatever reasons, like RLC!


Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: RaySmith on September 11, 2022, 05:29:42 AM
Quote from: gang on September 11, 2022, 12:15:17 AM
Frank Large was useless for every club he played for except Leicester, he was a clumsy lump with very little ball control.

He always gave his all for the club, I remember, but was very unfortunate to be the replacement for Allan Clarke, whom fans were unhappy about being sold.

Clarke had scored freely, but Big Frank, hardly scored at all - did he even score a goal? but you couldn't fault his attitude. Whereas many question Anguissa's attitude.
Anguissa certainly had potential, a bit like RLC who played alongside him, but was never very effective for us, for whatever reasons, like RLC!

I can remember Frank Large scored a goal at Crystal Palace, i think it was sometime in the early 70s.
He and Brian Dear put Fulham 2 0 up at half time, but we lost 3 2. That was one of the last games of the season.
I think we got relegated that year but correct me if i am wrong as the memory fades.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Penfold

Quote from: @jolslover on September 09, 2022, 04:55:08 PM
Anguissa would have been the best midfielder in Champ if he had stayed .. if that's what he means

Anguissas performance against Liverpool (a premier league team) shows his potential that he could have been one of the top CMs in the Prem

I thought he was good when he played for us too, I suspect if he was an academy player people would have rated him more


If he'd been an academy player you'd have said he wasn't good enough.

The Old Count

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 11, 2022, 07:49:04 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on September 11, 2022, 05:29:42 AM
Quote from: gang on September 11, 2022, 12:15:17 AM
Frank Large was useless for every club he played for except Leicester, he was a clumsy lump with very little ball control.

He always gave his all for the club, I remember, but was very unfortunate to be the replacement for Allan Clarke, whom fans were unhappy about being sold.

Clarke had scored freely, but Big Frank, hardly scored at all - did he even score a goal? but you couldn't fault his attitude. Whereas many question Anguissa's attitude.
Anguissa certainly had potential, a bit like RLC who played alongside him, but was never very effective for us, for whatever reasons, like RLC!

I can remember Frank Large scored a goal at Crystal Palace, i think it was sometime in the early 70s.
He and Brian Dear put Fulham 2 0 up at half time, but we lost 3 2. That was one of the last games of the season.
I think we got relegated that year but correct me if i am wrong as the memory fades.
1968/1969 season. We were relegated from the old second to the third division.  As a matter of interest Woolly were you the big geezer who shouted, 'dear oh dear' when he missed an open goal eliciting a V's up from good old Brian.


Woolly Mammoth

Probably,  although i may not have been quite as polite as that. 
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

Woolly Mammoth

Quote from: Penfold on September 11, 2022, 09:44:56 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on September 09, 2022, 04:55:08 PM
Anguissa would have been the best midfielder in Champ if he had stayed .. if that's what he means

Anguissas performance against Liverpool (a premier league team) shows his potential that he could have been one of the top CMs in the Prem

I thought he was good when he played for us too, I suspect if he was an academy player people would have rated him more


If he'd been an academy player you'd have said he wasn't good enough.

Nail on head there Penfold.
Its not the man in the fight, it's the fight in the man.  🐘

Never forget your Roots.

rebel

#268
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 11, 2022, 07:49:04 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on September 11, 2022, 05:29:42 AM
Quote from: gang on September 11, 2022, 12:15:17 AM
Frank Large was useless for every club he played for except Leicester, he was a clumsy lump with very little ball control.

He always gave his all for the club, I remember, but was very unfortunate to be the replacement for Allan Clarke, whom fans were unhappy about being sold.

Clarke had scored freely, but Big Frank, hardly scored at all - did he even score a goal? but you couldn't fault his attitude. Whereas many question Anguissa's attitude.
Anguissa certainly had potential, a bit like RLC who played alongside him, but was never very effective for us, for whatever reasons, like RLC!

I can remember Frank Large scored a goal at Crystal Palace, i think it was sometime in the early 70s.
He and Brian Dear put Fulham 2 0 up at half time, but we lost 3 2. That was one of the last games of the season.
I think we got relegated that year but correct me if i am wrong as the memory fades.

What do Woolly Mammoths eat?

A Dinosaur Sandwich.


@jolslover

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 11, 2022, 11:06:06 PM
Quote from: Penfold on September 11, 2022, 09:44:56 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on September 09, 2022, 04:55:08 PM
Anguissa would have been the best midfielder in Champ if he had stayed .. if that's what he means

Anguissas performance against Liverpool (a premier league team) shows his potential that he could have been one of the top CMs in the Prem

I thought he was good when he played for us too, I suspect if he was an academy player people would have rated him more


If he'd been an academy player you'd have said he wasn't good enough.

Nail on head there Penfold.

No I wouldn't have - MOTM performances against City and Liverpool in his first season in English football, was our best player untill Jan in the parker season too
STH H3

toshes mate

There is no doubt in my mind Anguissa is a goodish player using the crude metrics we have access to.  The story goes, whether truth or lie, that the agent who pushed Seri Khan Jnr's way when the MTM talks seemed stuck, also pushed Anguissa his way.  Neither player was, IMO, suitable for the way a Jokanovic team would be coached to play.  The discord between DoF and his head coach did what would prove to be the final damage.  Good players are good players but you have to know how your coaches work and what kind of player they need in order to capture good players to meet that need rather than good players but bad matches for what is needed. 

It is another reason why the word 'team' doesn't just apply to players - it requires everyone involved to be committed to it.   Perhaps in a parallel universe somewhere it did work but for planet Earth from 2018 it wasn't that clever for most of the time and was a bad time for all concerned - later Parker promotion included given what followed and what was going on behind the scenes even as we won at Wembley.

White Knight

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 11, 2022, 11:06:06 PM
Quote from: Penfold on September 11, 2022, 09:44:56 AM
Quote from: @jolslover on September 09, 2022, 04:55:08 PM
Anguissa would have been the best midfielder in Champ if he had stayed .. if that's what he means

Anguissas performance against Liverpool (a premier league team) shows his potential that he could have been one of the top CMs in the Prem

I thought he was good when he played for us too, I suspect if he was an academy player people would have rated him more


If he'd been an academy player you'd have said he wasn't good enough.

Nail on head there Penfold.

Anguissa is not the kind of character i would want at Fulham, he has shown that he could not careless both on the field and off of it.
I wonder how many full games of 90 minutes he actually got round to playing. He seemed to just play for himself and was either a sub or if he did start was subbed more often than not.
I feel that his application was poor and he turned out to be yet another very expensive flop.   


White Knight

Quote from: The Old Count on September 11, 2022, 01:59:39 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 11, 2022, 07:49:04 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on September 11, 2022, 05:29:42 AM
Quote from: gang on September 11, 2022, 12:15:17 AM
Frank Large was useless for every club he played for except Leicester, he was a clumsy lump with very little ball control.

He always gave his all for the club, I remember, but was very unfortunate to be the replacement for Allan Clarke, whom fans were unhappy about being sold.

Clarke had scored freely, but Big Frank, hardly scored at all - did he even score a goal? but you couldn't fault his attitude. Whereas many question Anguissa's attitude.
Anguissa certainly had potential, a bit like RLC who played alongside him, but was never very effective for us, for whatever reasons, like RLC!

I can remember Frank Large scored a goal at Crystal Palace, i think it was sometime in the early 70s.
He and Brian Dear put Fulham 2 0 up at half time, but we lost 3 2. That was one of the last games of the season.
I think we got relegated that year but correct me if i am wrong as the memory fades.
1968/1969 season. We were relegated from the old second to the third division.  As a matter of interest Woolly were you the big geezer who shouted, 'dear oh dear' when he missed an open goal eliciting a V's up from good old Brian.

I have just joined a Gym, and i had to have an induction and i noticed a mature guy who came in wearing a black warm up top with Woolly Mammoth on the back.
He took it off to work out wearing an athletic style vest.
He was massive with muscles on his muscles and kind of fits the description, and how many guys are there walking around with WM written on the back of their top, there cannot be that many.
If its the same guy i hope he wont mind me mentioning it.

FreiBird

#273
Quote from: perry geyton on September 09, 2022, 07:42:33 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on September 09, 2022, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 08, 2022, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: Andy S on May 12, 2022, 03:54:18 PM
Silva know best

Silva wanted Anguiissa out on loan to free up for Wilson. I am sure Silva likes Anguissa but Silva was happy with Seri, Reed, Cairney and Chalobah that were cheaper to keep.

Just no where remotely near being true. Silva said he wanted to keep him but he wanted to leave. Can you blame him? One of the best midfielders in the league and fans who don't know football wanted him out hahah.
One of the best midfielders in the league
Comical

Sadly can't make you understand football but it's nice you watch it for the pretty jerseys or whatever.

OK mr know it all
I'd take Joao all day long over him, plays for the badge and doesn't think he's supreme to others

Oh yeah and he can score

But what do I know I just like pretty jerseys

The fact you think Palhinha is someone who would play instead of Anguissa instead of alongside says everything we need to know hahahah.

FreiBird

#274
Quote from: SG on September 08, 2022, 06:25:32 AM
Quote from: Somerset Fulham on September 07, 2022, 09:55:51 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 07, 2022, 09:01:40 PM
Putting on a 10/10 performance against Liverpool in the Champions League here, Gammons celebrated him leaving the club hahaha.

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Thought Perry had been telling porkies again when I saw this thread reappear.  :wine:

Zambo was absolutely outstanding tonight, I am glad he is doing so well and sad that we couldn't unlock what every other club he has played for has unlocked.

He was outstanding with the ball but had others around him doing the hard graft of winning the ball back, tackling and covering. Not sure we could ever accommodate that. Also never forget the Parker effect on players

Anguissa made the most tackles of any Fulham player that season and had the 7th most tackles in the Prem.

Anguissa made the most interceptions of any Fulham player that season and had the 10th most interceptions in the Prem.

Anguissa won the ball back more than any Fulham player that season and had the 20th most successful pressures in the Prem.


perry geyton

Quote from: FreiBird on September 12, 2022, 02:46:35 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on September 09, 2022, 07:42:33 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on September 09, 2022, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 08, 2022, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: Andy S on May 12, 2022, 03:54:18 PM
Silva know best

Silva wanted Anguiissa out on loan to free up for Wilson. I am sure Silva likes Anguissa but Silva was happy with Seri, Reed, Cairney and Chalobah that were cheaper to keep.

Just no where remotely near being true. Silva said he wanted to keep him but he wanted to leave. Can you blame him? One of the best midfielders in the league and fans who don't know football wanted him out hahah.
One of the best midfielders in the league
Comical

Sadly can't make you understand football but it's nice you watch it for the pretty jerseys or whatever.

OK mr know it all
I'd take Joao all day long over him, plays for the badge and doesn't think he's supreme to others

Oh yeah and he can score

But what do I know I just like pretty jerseys

The fact you think Palhinha is someone who would play instead of Anguissa instead of alongside says everything we need to know hahahah.

Actually No I'd play him alongside Reed as we are
Anguissa would be watching from the cottage with a pair of binoculars
Hahaha

Hahahaha

MickyAdamsFamily

Careful, Freibird...
That sort of fact-based thinking could ruin this whole thread...
:-)

Twig

Quote from: FreiBird on September 12, 2022, 02:46:35 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on September 09, 2022, 07:42:33 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on September 09, 2022, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 08, 2022, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: Andy S on May 12, 2022, 03:54:18 PM
Silva know best

Silva wanted Anguiissa out on loan to free up for Wilson. I am sure Silva likes Anguissa but Silva was happy with Seri, Reed, Cairney and Chalobah that were cheaper to keep.

Just no where remotely near being true. Silva said he wanted to keep him but he wanted to leave. Can you blame him? One of the best midfielders in the league and fans who don't know football wanted him out hahah.
One of the best midfielders in the league
Comical

Sadly can't make you understand football but it's nice you watch it for the pretty jerseys or whatever.

OK mr know it all
I'd take Joao all day long over him, plays for the badge and doesn't think he's supreme to others

Oh yeah and he can score

But what do I know I just like pretty jerseys

The fact you think Palhinha is someone who would play instead of Anguissa instead of alongside says everything we need to know hahahah.

Palhinha a nsiled on starter for me even if we had Zambo to grace us with his presence. Would he get a start in place of Reed? No. Would he get a start in place of Perfeira? No. Would he make the bench? Not in place of Cairney so who would he displace?

All of the claims of his excellence are based around performances whilst not wearing a Fulham shirt (with the exception of one match v Liverpool). I have always judged our players by their performances for FFC and only FFC. On that basis he weren't much cop.


FreiBird

Quote from: Twig on September 12, 2022, 04:30:57 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 12, 2022, 02:46:35 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on September 09, 2022, 07:42:33 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 06:50:03 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on September 09, 2022, 03:26:21 PM
Quote from: FreiBird on September 09, 2022, 01:41:32 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on September 08, 2022, 12:42:29 PM
Quote from: Andy S on May 12, 2022, 03:54:18 PM
Silva know best

Silva wanted Anguiissa out on loan to free up for Wilson. I am sure Silva likes Anguissa but Silva was happy with Seri, Reed, Cairney and Chalobah that were cheaper to keep.

Just no where remotely near being true. Silva said he wanted to keep him but he wanted to leave. Can you blame him? One of the best midfielders in the league and fans who don't know football wanted him out hahah.
One of the best midfielders in the league
Comical

Sadly can't make you understand football but it's nice you watch it for the pretty jerseys or whatever.

OK mr know it all
I'd take Joao all day long over him, plays for the badge and doesn't think he's supreme to others

Oh yeah and he can score

But what do I know I just like pretty jerseys

The fact you think Palhinha is someone who would play instead of Anguissa instead of alongside says everything we need to know hahahah.

Palhinha a nsiled on starter for me even if we had Zambo to grace us with his presence. Would he get a start in place of Reed? No. Would he get a start in place of Perfeira? No. Would he make the bench? Not in place of Cairney so who would he displace?

All of the claims of his excellence are based around performances whilst not wearing a Fulham shirt (with the exception of one match v Liverpool). I have always judged our players by their performances for FFC and only FFC. On that basis he weren't much cop.

He would play instead of Reed as he is lightyears ahead of him. No one said he would play ahead of Palhinha because they're two completely different positions. Then you go on to reference Pereira and Cairney who are again, two completely different positions.

No, I just listed metrics that show he was one of the top performers in the league while with Fulham in 20/21. Anyone who watched him could tell his level is top 6 and we had him, used him terribly and he still did everything brilliantly except score (which isn't what he's asked to do).

FreiBird

Quote from: MickyAdamsFamily on September 12, 2022, 04:19:20 PM
Careful, Freibird...
That sort of fact-based thinking could ruin this whole thread...
:-)

No facts allowed, just Perry Geytons mythical descriptions of how he played. So strange how a team like Napoli (sitting unbeaten and top of Serie A btw) have never come in for Harrison Reed who is a better player according to the "experts" here hahaha.