Using Fulham and Craven Cottage in book storyline

[rogerpbackinMidEastUS]

Does anyone have access to someone in the Kahn or Fulham administration for the following "approval"
I have almost concluded the writing of a book/tv series etc.
It's about a UK 'peer' and his son who have invested $Billions
in a luxury Senior Living Complex including loads of facilities,
on the outskirts of the Louisiana swamps.
I also have plans to convert the dialogue to similar locations
in the UK, Ireland, India, Oz etc (if I can connect with the 'right people'
It's called LOUISIANA GEEZERS and the main character (the son) is
a bit "Del Boy" (ish)
The money to build the complex came from the profits the father "Sir Wilf Glastonbury" made from a contract with the Vatican to design and build numerous 'Diesel-Powered Nuns and Priests' to fill in the global shortage. (Needless to say, it's a comedy !!
My question:  I have provisionally named the complex:
"The Fulham, Craven Cottage Luxury Senior Living Facility."
Before continuing with that title, do I need to get approval and/or the copyright of Fulham and/or Craven Cottage and how do I go about it? (not a lot of money available)
Any help or advise or contacts/publishers would be appreciate.
Thank you
Roger
After 20 years, I'm chomping at the bit to get this project on the go. It's nearly all 'typed up' and ready. Copyrighted in the US Library of Congress.

[rogerpbackinMidEastUS]

No one have any ideas.
Isn't there an administrator to the Khans who people
have been emailing for years.

[Willham]

I havent got a clear answer,

But I have tried googling, which was harder than anticipated,
I did however find on quora a discussion and the following answer is relevant and feel you should read.

I felt like it comes to the conclusion you would be fine to go ahead without permission but please make up your own mind;

Trademark Primer

Before I examine these guidelines, here is a short primer first.

Usually when we think of trademarks, brand name products come to mind, like Velcro, Vespa, or Valium. These types of trademarks are generally what we sprinkle through our creative works. But a trademark can also be a phrase, symbol, logo, design, or shape – like the Michelin man made of tires, or the plume of a Hershey's Kiss, or the catch phrase "Where's the beef?" Just about anything qualifies as a trademark if it identifies a product or service in the marketplace and distinguishes the source of that product or service from other sources.

To understand what basic guidelines to follow when using trademarks in your great American novel, it helps to consider what rights come with a trademark so you can steer clear of infringement.

Trademark Infringement

Trademark rights allow the owner to prevent someone from using a trademark in a manner that is likely to confuse consumers as to the source of the goods or services. During my earlier years as a trademark attorney, I frequently participated in search-and-seizures of vendors hawking Rolex Watches and Gucci handbags as authentic merchandise. You get the principle. It's misleading.

Normally, infringement is not an issue for writers. We're not selling Gucci handbags. The question we should ask is whether the use of the trademark in our manuscript confuses or deceives consumers as to the source, sponsorship, or affiliation of the book. If it does, then the use is unauthorized.

For example, if your character works at the ice rink and drives a Zamboni, use of the trademark Zamboni would not lead consumers to believe your book was created or sponsored by the Zamboni Company. You're not selling a Zamboni. You're merely referring to Zamboni's own product, a Zamboni ice resurfacer. According to the courts this kind of use is considered fair. But, place the trademark on the book cover in hopes of boosting sales by implying the Zamboni Company endorsed your book, then you better check your mailbox for a cease-and-desist letter. Because Zamboni would likely think your use of the trademark constitutes infringement. If you're wanting to read more, here's an appeal case where David Balducci and his Snicker Magazine were held to infringe Anheuser-Busch's Michelob trademarks with the use of a fictitious Michelob Oily advertisement on the magazine's back cover (where ads are normally found, and thus held to be consfusing to consumers and not parody or First Amendment Free Speech).

Trademark Dilution

The basic gist with dilution is keeping the trademark from becoming less distinctive. The classic example is using Xerox to mean photocopying. Or Google to mean searching the Internet. Or Kleenex to mean tissue. Using these trademarks in a generic sense makes them less distinctive and lessens the ability of a consumer to distinguish the goods or services from others because the trademark becomes synonymous with a general class of products or services. Words like aspirin, cellophane, kerosene, and thermos were once trademarks but now signify a general class of goods.

To avoid running afoul of trademark dilution, stay away from genericising a trademark. You wouldn't say – she googled her crush. Instead, use the unbranded version – she searched his name on the Internet. Or, she used Google to search his name on the Internet. Don't ask to have a kleenex. Ask to have a Kleenex tissue. Or just a tissue. When you use a trademark, make it more distinctive (and less generic) with capitalization. Once the courts declare a trademark generic, use it as you wish. For example, "She wrapped the aspirin in cellophane and dropped it in the thermos full of kerosene."

Trademark Tarnishment and Defamation

Portray a trademark in a negative light, destroy its commercial value, and you've tarnished the trademark. One of the most famous tarnishment cases I remember from law school was a claim by the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders that their mark was tarnished by the porn movie Debbie Does Dallas, in which the porn stars wore Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader uniforms.

To avoid disparaging a trademark in your manuscript, don't depict a brand name, company, or their product in a highly offensive way. Instead, invent a fictional brand or company. Or, in the case of Debbie Does Dallas, use a generic cheerleading uniform. You'll save yourself some legal hassles and have more fun creatively (plus you can disparage all you like). However, if the work is a parody or the statement is true, no matter how damaging (like the deaths linked to faulty ignition switches in certain General Motors cars), then you are clear to use that fact in your plot or mention it in your narrative.

[Somerset Fulham]

Just shorten it to "Craven Cottage Luxury Senior Living Facility" and it won't sound as clunky and absolutely will not infringe on any rules. Anybody is allowed to call a building Craven Cottage if they wish to do so.

[rogerpbackinMidEastUS]

Thanks for the time you took, it sure helps

[rogerpbackinMidEastUS]

Just shorten it to "Craven Cottage Luxury Senior Living Facility" and it won't sound as clunky and absolutely will not infringe on any rules. Anybody is allowed to call a building Craven Cottage if they wish to do so.

Thanks for your help.
I can juggle a bit.
The Fulham Hotel at Craven Cottage Luxury Senior Living.

I thought also they might like to be aware, because there will be some very funny things going on there.

Cheers

[rogerpbackinMidEastUS]

I havent got a clear answer,

But I have tried googling, which was harder than anticipated,
I did however find on quora a discussion and the following answer is relevant and feel you should read.

I felt like it comes to the conclusion you would be fine to go ahead without permission but please make up your own mind;

Trademark Primer

Before I examine these guidelines, here is a short primer first.

Usually when we think of trademarks, brand name products come to mind, like Velcro, Vespa, or Valium. These types of trademarks are generally what we sprinkle through our creative works. But a trademark can also be a phrase, symbol, logo, design, or shape – like the Michelin man made of tires, or the plume of a Hershey's Kiss, or the catch phrase "Where's the beef?" Just about anything qualifies as a trademark if it identifies a product or service in the marketplace and distinguishes the source of that product or service from other sources.

To understand what basic guidelines to follow when using trademarks in your great American novel, it helps to consider what rights come with a trademark so you can steer clear of infringement.

Trademark Infringement

Trademark rights allow the owner to prevent someone from using a trademark in a manner that is likely to confuse consumers as to the source of the goods or services. During my earlier years as a trademark attorney, I frequently participated in search-and-seizures of vendors hawking Rolex Watches and Gucci handbags as authentic merchandise. You get the principle. It's misleading.

Normally, infringement is not an issue for writers. We're not selling Gucci handbags. The question we should ask is whether the use of the trademark in our manuscript confuses or deceives consumers as to the source, sponsorship, or affiliation of the book. If it does, then the use is unauthorized.

For example, if your character works at the ice rink and drives a Zamboni, use of the trademark Zamboni would not lead consumers to believe your book was created or sponsored by the Zamboni Company. You're not selling a Zamboni. You're merely referring to Zamboni's own product, a Zamboni ice resurfacer. According to the courts this kind of use is considered fair. But, place the trademark on the book cover in hopes of boosting sales by implying the Zamboni Company endorsed your book, then you better check your mailbox for a cease-and-desist letter. Because Zamboni would likely think your use of the trademark constitutes infringement. If you're wanting to read more, here's an appeal case where David Balducci and his Snicker Magazine were held to infringe Anheuser-Busch's Michelob trademarks with the use of a fictitious Michelob Oily advertisement on the magazine's back cover (where ads are normally found, and thus held to be consfusing to consumers and not parody or First Amendment Free Speech).

Trademark Dilution

The basic gist with dilution is keeping the trademark from becoming less distinctive. The classic example is using Xerox to mean photocopying. Or Google to mean searching the Internet. Or Kleenex to mean tissue. Using these trademarks in a generic sense makes them less distinctive and lessens the ability of a consumer to distinguish the goods or services from others because the trademark becomes synonymous with a general class of products or services. Words like aspirin, cellophane, kerosene, and thermos were once trademarks but now signify a general class of goods.

To avoid running afoul of trademark dilution, stay away from genericising a trademark. You wouldn't say – she googled her crush. Instead, use the unbranded version – she searched his name on the Internet. Or, she used Google to search his name on the Internet. Don't ask to have a kleenex. Ask to have a Kleenex tissue. Or just a tissue. When you use a trademark, make it more distinctive (and less generic) with capitalization. Once the courts declare a trademark generic, use it as you wish. For example, "She wrapped the aspirin in cellophane and dropped it in the thermos full of kerosene."

Trademark Tarnishment and Defamation

Portray a trademark in a negative light, destroy its commercial value, and you've tarnished the trademark. One of the most famous tarnishment cases I remember from law school was a claim by the Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders that their mark was tarnished by the porn movie Debbie Does Dallas, in which the porn stars wore Dallas Cowboy Cheerleader uniforms.

To avoid disparaging a trademark in your manuscript, don't depict a brand name, company, or their product in a highly offensive way. Instead, invent a fictional brand or company. Or, in the case of Debbie Does Dallas, use a generic cheerleading uniform. You'll save yourself some legal hassles and have more fun creatively (plus you can disparage all you like). However, if the work is a parody or the statement is true, no matter how damaging (like the deaths linked to faulty ignition switches in certain General Motors cars), then you are clear to use that fact in your plot or mention it in your narrative.

Thanks again, I read through it thoroughly and it makes more sense now.  I'd hate to have to change it to Folham Restaurant or               
"Cravan Kettage" as my idea for choosing them is connected to 'my club for 61 years' and hopefully if it gets published !! it will give us  some more recognition, although some of the story lines are 'off the wall'  I'm now about to start looking for a publisher or TV series company over here, UK, Indian, Oz etc.  it's a shot in the dark but over the years it's made me chuckle a lot and if I can get it to the right people, who knows.   Thank again "Willham'

[Woolly Mammoth]

I wish you well in your venture Roger, but a word of caution.

 Back in the third century some archaeologists created a book that unfortunately was damaged by natural causes or human interference.
The book was named " The Dead Sea Scrolls ".
The clue is in the Title.

Therefore with your permission may i suggest you make your way to the edge of the Gobi Desert and locate  a wide eyed head man of a local village who is wearing a long beard and carrying a staff, chanting " come over hear if you think your hard enough".

You can then proceed to instruct him to write the manuscript on an animal skin, because my advice is that it will have more chance of surviving the centuries than if it was a soft back cover sitting on the top shelf of branches of W H Smith and Son, or in a run down shack down a back street off the Portobello Road.

Talking about W H Smith & Son.
The last time i visited my local branch.
I asked the lady behind the counter if she kept stationary.
She replied " yes right up to the last minute, then i go like the clappers".

[Southcoastffc]

Just shorten it to "Craven Cottage Luxury Senior Living Facility" and it won't sound as clunky and absolutely will not infringe on any rules. Anybody is allowed to call a building Craven Cottage if they wish to do so.

True. There's a house called Craven Cottage in my neighbourhood.

[Woolly Mammoth]

Just shorten it to "Craven Cottage Luxury Senior Living Facility" and it won't sound as clunky and absolutely will not infringe on any rules. Anybody is allowed to call a building Craven Cottage if they wish to do so.

True. There's a house called Craven Cottage in my neighbourhood.

You need to check that Drum out, there could be a profusion of Cottagers frequenting the premises.

[Brittregio]

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[Woolly Mammoth]

The importance of giving an update cannot be overstated. In today's fast-paced world, where information flows rapidly, it's essential to keep people informed and engaged. Much like the strategic use of punctuation in poetry, https://essaypro.com/blog/punctuation-in-poetry providing updates adds depth and clarity to communication. It allows us to pause, reflect, and understand the evolving narrative. Whether it's sharing personal progress or keeping an audience informed about a project, updates enhance the overall experience. Just as a well-placed semicolon in poetry can change the entire meaning of a verse, regular updates punctuate our lives with progress and maintain a sense of connection and anticipation. They're the punctuation marks in the story of our journey, adding meaning and rhythm to our narratives.

That is why when it comes to book reading, it is always heart warming to know that we are all on the same page.  🦣

[Woolly Mammoth]

Like a good football team every book needs a strong spine.  🦣

[Thailand Mick]

Would it not sound better "The Craven Cottage hotel Fulham, Luxury senior living facility". I noticed the other day on a map that there is a town named Fulham in Australia, I think its just north of Adelaide airport.whos to say your not talking about that town.

[Woolly Mammoth]

Would it not sound better "The Craven Cottage hotel Fulham, Luxury senior living facility". I noticed the other day on a map that there is a town named Fulham in Australia, I think its just north of Adelaide airport.whos to say your not talking about that town.

More a Bed & Breakfast.