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VAR is corrupt

Started by 3rdgenfan, September 02, 2023, 03:58:04 PM

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Lewes White

Can there not be an online National Var protest for all football supporters to condemn VAR...

Cobh Fulham Fan

So people commenting on here need to make up their minds whether Var is 'not fit for purpose' or 'blatantly corrupt'?

The latter can be put down to simple human error, while the former as a deliberate series of corrupt decisions decided to favour the bigger and richer clubs and probably encouraged by inducements.

In Fulham's case - where very very poor VAR decisions seem to happen on an almost weekly basis of late, its hard to see them all being of simply human error, since the problem there is your left with one big question - why is it that human error never seems to kick in for the big clubs?

Therefore, the only answer left is blatant corruption - and it is blatant, with no one prepared to show their faces to explain why they had arrived at the decisions they make.

So what happens now. Can Fulham change this on its own? Hardly, but some club has to make the first move in order for other victim clubs of Var to realise they are not alone and need to join forces in what ever form of protest it will take to route out this corruption. 

Join the PLVCOV - Premier League Victim Clubs Of VAR. 

Watford_fc

Quote from: Cobh Fulham Fan on September 03, 2023, 08:11:48 AMSo people commenting on here need to make up their minds whether Var is 'not fit for purpose' or 'blatantly corrupt'?

The latter can be put down to simple human error, while the former as a deliberate series of corrupt decisions decided to favour the bigger and richer clubs and probably encouraged by inducements.

In Fulham's case - where very very poor VAR decisions seem to happen on an almost weekly basis of late, its hard to see them all being of simply human error, since the problem there is your left with one big question - why is it that human error never seems to kick in for the big clubs?

Therefore, the only answer left is blatant corruption - and it is blatant, with no one prepared to show their faces to explain why they had arrived at the decisions they make.

So what happens now. Can Fulham change this on its own? Hardly, but some club has to make the first move in order for other victim clubs of Var to realise they are not alone and need to join forces in what ever form of protest it will take to route out this corruption. 

Join the PLVCOV - Premier League Victim Clubs Of VAR. 

Trouble is clubs , managers and players plus some fans don't care if it makes a bad call in their favour at all .

Or they just say "well x weeks ago it went against us so due some luck "

Only the other week a big club had a red card overturned after appeal given by VAR so they will  say it goes against them too .


Cobh Fulham Fan

I just noticed, we have three seperate threads on the woes of VAR on this board today.

So my question is this. Are we going to do something about it, OR, will we do as normal, as we had throughout the whole transfer window and B.tch away on keyboards, till the end of the season when VAR has finally sent us back to the Championship where they obviously feel we belong!

Rupert

The heart cries out for Fulham, or someone else, to make the ultimate protest. Appalling VAR goes against us, right, get the players off the pitch. Tell the ref we are not prepared to risk injuries or suspensions to our players while being cheated by corrupt officials, so he needs to abandon the match. Just award the three points to his precious BIG club, he might as well make it that blatantly obvious how corrupt he is.

Do it during a live SKY match, which would annoy the advertisers, which would annoy the money men.

Whoever does it gets pulverised by the FA (fines, threats of expulsion, etc) and the press, who do not want their circus disrupted by the little people (yes, they will be crying out about how bad a decision it was, but then move on to analyse the hat-trick scored afterwards in far greater detail).

The following weekend it happens again. Again the small club takes the pain, and walks off. The FA swing into action and drone that such  bad sportsmanship will not be tolerated, and the next team to do it gets expelled from the league.

VAR has a couple of "good" weeks, where nothing happens, problem solved.

Then it happens again.

Small club walks off and risks expulsion, the rest of the small clubs threaten to resign en masse if that happens.

Then?

That is the heart speaking, and is hopelessly naïve and romantic and it simply will not happen because the likes of West Ham and, bizarrely, Brentford seem to benefit enough from VAR to think it is okay, so simple selfish self interest would ensure that very few small clubs would be willing to see it through. And yes, they would be expelled, there are plenty of sleeping giants in the Championship to replace them.

So, what do we do?

The head says, nothing. We can protest, we can make a fuss, we can call the system corrupt, but unless we are willing to risk our club being thrown out of the league, what can we really do? Just make a noise and be ignored.

Depressing way to start the day, eh?
Any fool can criticise, condemn and complain, and most fools do.

Cobh Fulham Fan

Quote from: Watford_fc on September 03, 2023, 08:20:09 AM
Quote from: Cobh Fulham Fan on September 03, 2023, 08:11:48 AMSo people commenting on here need to make up their minds whether Var is 'not fit for purpose' or 'blatantly corrupt'?

The latter can be put down to simple human error, while the former as a deliberate series of corrupt decisions decided to favour the bigger and richer clubs and probably encouraged by inducements.

In Fulham's case - where very very poor VAR decisions seem to happen on an almost weekly basis of late, its hard to see them all being of simply human error, since the problem there is your left with one big question - why is it that human error never seems to kick in for the big clubs?

Therefore, the only answer left is blatant corruption - and it is blatant, with no one prepared to show their faces to explain why they had arrived at the decisions they make.

So what happens now. Can Fulham change this on its own? Hardly, but some club has to make the first move in order for other victim clubs of Var to realise they are not alone and need to join forces in what ever form of protest it will take to route out this corruption. 

Join the PLVCOV - Premier League Victim Clubs Of VAR. 

Trouble is clubs , managers and players plus some fans don't care if it makes a bad call in their favour at all .

Or they just say "well x weeks ago it went against us so due some luck "

Only the other week a big club had a red card overturned after appeal given by VAR so they will  say it goes against them too .

Yes, fair points made there. But you have just given the reason for not doing anything about the unjustness of VAR, but arent there for more reasons to actually do something to change it?   If im wrong- lets stop stop bitching and complaining week in -week out!


Watford_fc

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Quote from: Cobh Fulham Fan on September 03, 2023, 08:38:38 AM
Quote from: Watford_fc on September 03, 2023, 08:20:09 AM
Quote from: Cobh Fulham Fan on September 03, 2023, 08:11:48 AMSo people commenting on here need to make up their minds whether Var is 'not fit for purpose' or 'blatantly corrupt'?

The latter can be put down to simple human error, while the former as a deliberate series of corrupt decisions decided to favour the bigger and richer clubs and probably encouraged by inducements.

In Fulham's case - where very very poor VAR decisions seem to happen on an almost weekly basis of late, its hard to see them all being of simply human error, since the problem there is your left with one big question - why is it that human error never seems to kick in for the big clubs?

Therefore, the only answer left is blatant corruption - and it is blatant, with no one prepared to show their faces to explain why they had arrived at the decisions they make.

So what happens now. Can Fulham change this on its own? Hardly, but some club has to make the first move in order for other victim clubs of Var to realise they are not alone and need to join forces in what ever form of protest it will take to route out this corruption. 

Join the PLVCOV - Premier League Victim Clubs Of VAR. 

Trouble is clubs , managers and players plus some fans don't care if it makes a bad call in their favour at all .

Or they just say "well x weeks ago it went against us so due some luck "

Only the other week a big club had a red card overturned after appeal given by VAR so they will  say it goes against them too .

Yes, fair points made there. But you have just given the reason for not doing anything about the unjustness of VAR, but arent there for more reasons to actually do something to change it?   If im wrong- lets stop stop bitching and complaining week in -week out!

Issue is these refs obviously aren't good enough and making so many basic trots without much of a punishment for it or taking responsibility.

And as Mike Dean admitted they don't want to upset each other by calling an error out in public .

That goal yesterday wasn't even like a subjective call which can go either way .

I'd be surprised if any one else thought it was fair !