NFR: Leicester the latest club to be charged with overspending

[Somerset Fulham]

Leicester City have been charged by the Premier League for allegedly breaking spending rules during their last three seasons in the top flight.

— BBC Sport (@BBCSport) March 21, 2024

[davew]

We might be next on the list for paying excessive fees for players like him, the top so called top 6 will be furious that they might now have to pay a lot more to deplete our squad. How on earth can Leicester be brought into the equation of breaking spending rules and what is the latest on the what was it.....100 charges against Man City? Football is becoming a joke!!!!

[filham]

It is becoming ridiculous , league tables could be changed overnight.

[SG]

We might be next on the list for paying excessive fees for players like him, the top so called top 6 will be furious that they might now have to pay a lot more to deplete our squad. How on earth can Leicester be brought into the equation of breaking spending rules and what is the latest on the what was it.....100 charges against Man City? Football is becoming a joke!!!!

They have been brought into it to prevent clubs avoiding the rules when they are in the championship having been previously in the premiership for the previous three seasons as has happened in the past.
If promoted they will start on negative points if found guilty. Seems reasonable to me.

[bill taylors apprentice]

What's ridiculous is clubs breaking the rules they had a hand in setting up.

Frankly, if they break them they should suffer the consequences, simple.

And as for the appeals made by guilty clubs, why is it assumed you can appeal and get a lesser sentence rather than risk being hit with a bigger punishment? 

[Lighthouse]

We need to establish when the rules were broken if at all. Leicester won the Prem remember and then had to be careful about the money side and there were eventually relegated. If they are found guilty and suffer a points deduction it can only be if they are promoted? Or of they fail to come up will it be a deduction in the Championship.

Then wouldn't it be fairer to have all points deductions transferred to the following season instead of not knowing from week to week what your team need to stay up etc.

The long and very convulated look at the bigger teams who have alledgeldy broken the rules seem to be conveniently taking so long as to make it almost so long ago anybody involved would have moved on and most of us died in waiting for any decision.   

[davew]

We need to establish when the rules were broken if at all. Leicester won the Prem remember and then had to be careful about the money side and there were eventually relegated. If they are found guilty and suffer a points deduction it can only be if they are promoted? Or of they fail to come up will it be a deduction in the Championship.

Then wouldn't it be fairer to have all points deductions transferred to the following season instead of not knowing from week to week what your team need to stay up etc.

The long and very convulated look at the bigger teams who have alledgeldy broken the rules seem to be conveniently taking so long as to make it almost so long ago anybody involved would have moved on and most of us died in waiting for any decision.   

Well said, especially us older ones, I am certainly 1 of them, sadly!

[LC]

Well if they get a points deduction it will be for next season which will likely mean they will go straight back down

[St Eve]

Well if they get a points deduction it will be for next season which will likely mean they will go straight back down

but they will go up at the expense of Leeds or Ipswich. That's not right. They cheated, just like Everton and Forest

[Angus Telford]

Well if they get a points deduction it will be for next season which will likely mean they will go straight back down

but they will go up at the expense of Leeds or Ipswich. That's not right. They cheated, just like Everton and Forest

Well, the allegation is that they cheated in the season they went down, not this season, so their Championship peers don't have grounds for complaint as it stands

[Thailand Mick]

Well if they get a points deduction it will be for next season which will likely mean they will go straight back down

but they will go up at the expense of Leeds or Ipswich. That's not right. They cheated, just like Everton and Forest

Agreed, for me it should be taken off this season, they have gained the advantage already for this season.

[Angus Telford]

Why do these threads so consistently degrade to demands for the most extreme and draconian punishment possible, with no interest in the intricacies of guilt, mitigation or what would actually be an appropriate punishment?

Seems to reflect wider society unfortunately.

[Thames Bank 1]

They have been quick to do them, and they are now under an embargo with EFL.
Why are they not that quick to do Chelsea and City, they were announced same time as Forest and Everton

[btffc]

They have been quick to do them, and they are now under an embargo with EFL.
Why are they not that quick to do Chelsea and City, they were announced same time as Forest and Everton

Chelsea haven't been charged except for some self reported thing the new owners found that happened under Abramovic. The real worry for them is their next set of submitted accounts next year as that's where they are in real danger of running afoul of PSR.

Man City's case is immensely complicated and contains things that have to be proved and are from up to 15 years ago. The Everton and Forest cases are very black and white and nothing needed to be proven because they simply lost more than they were allowed. City's case is them alleged to have used shadow corporations to funnel money to players and into the club to prop up revenue in order to be allowed to spend more. That is far more complicated to prove especially with the mountains of lawyers City are throwing at it. I believe they do now have a hearing date set though for some time in the Summer so hopefully a resolution will be coming somewhat soon.

[St Eve]

Well if they get a points deduction it will be for next season which will likely mean they will go straight back down

but they will go up at the expense of Leeds or Ipswich. That's not right. They cheated, just like Everton and Forest

Well, the allegation is that they cheated in the season they went down, not this season, so their Championship peers don't have grounds for complaint as it stands

Sorry I don't understand the logic. They cheated when they went down and the rewards help them to go back up

[Angus Telford]

Well if they get a points deduction it will be for next season which will likely mean they will go straight back down

but they will go up at the expense of Leeds or Ipswich. That's not right. They cheated, just like Everton and Forest

Well, the allegation is that they cheated in the season they went down, not this season, so their Championship peers don't have grounds for complaint as it stands

Sorry I don't understand the logic. They cheated when they went down and the rewards help them to go back up

Well they cheated in the 22/23 season so that's when they gained the most direct, significant advantage.

Arguably it also helped them in 23/24 season as you say.

One could equally say the it'll help them in the 24/25 season and other future seasons too.

So what is your logic for picking specifically that middle season, 23/24, as the period in which the sanction should apply (and objecting to it being applied in 24/25)?

[St Eve]

Well if they get a points deduction it will be for next season which will likely mean they will go straight back down

but they will go up at the expense of Leeds or Ipswich. That's not right. They cheated, just like Everton and Forest

Well, the allegation is that they cheated in the season they went down, not this season, so their Championship peers don't have grounds for complaint as it stands

Sorry I don't understand the logic. They cheated when they went down and the rewards help them to go back up

Well they cheated in the 22/23 season so that's when they gained the most direct, significant advantage.

Arguably it also helped them in 23/24 season as you say.

One could equally say the it'll help them in the 24/25 season and other future seasons too.

So what is your logic for picking specifically that middle season, 23/24, as the period in which the sanction should apply (and objecting to it being applied in 24/25)?

I guess because it would prevent them from going up which would be the correct punishment for cheating

[Angus Telford]

Well if they get a points deduction it will be for next season which will likely mean they will go straight back down

but they will go up at the expense of Leeds or Ipswich. That's not right. They cheated, just like Everton and Forest

Well, the allegation is that they cheated in the season they went down, not this season, so their Championship peers don't have grounds for complaint as it stands

Sorry I don't understand the logic. They cheated when they went down and the rewards help them to go back up

Well they cheated in the 22/23 season so that's when they gained the most direct, significant advantage.

Arguably it also helped them in 23/24 season as you say.

One could equally say the it'll help them in the 24/25 season and other future seasons too.

So what is your logic for picking specifically that middle season, 23/24, as the period in which the sanction should apply (and objecting to it being applied in 24/25)?

I guess because it would prevent them from going up which would be the correct punishment for cheating

Maybe if a points deduction is applied in 24/25, it'll prevent them from staying up and ensure they go straight back down...

[SuffolkWhite]

All leagues in this country should be aligned I think, and punishments should be clear and agreed by all clubs. Thing is (as mentioned above) it's not always that simple.
Leicester will benefit from a major windful when they go up which in turn will benefit them once possibly relegated again financially.
Football will eat its self🤷

[St Eve]

Well if they get a points deduction it will be for next season which will likely mean they will go straight back down

but they will go up at the expense of Leeds or Ipswich. That's not right. They cheated, just like Everton and Forest

Well, the allegation is that they cheated in the season they went down, not this season, so their Championship peers don't have grounds for complaint as it stands

Sorry I don't understand the logic. They cheated when they went down and the rewards help them to go back up

Well they cheated in the 22/23 season so that's when they gained the most direct, significant advantage.

Arguably it also helped them in 23/24 season as you say.

One could equally say the it'll help them in the 24/25 season and other future seasons too.

So what is your logic for picking specifically that middle season, 23/24, as the period in which the sanction should apply (and objecting to it being applied in 24/25)?

I guess because it would prevent them from going up which would be the correct punishment for cheating

Maybe if a points deduction is applied in 24/25, it'll prevent them from staying up and ensure they go straight back down...

True but they are 200 million better off, which means one of the relegated teams aren't