Silva proposed to Juventus

[St Eve]

Every manager goes. Few make it past 3 years. Every season is a bonus. Let's hope we have a plan B

[Staffs White]

Offer him an extended contract and give him a two week deadline to sign it, we can't have him fcuking us about all summer playing one club off against another, no players are going to sign for us if they think the manager might be leaving.

This all day long, said a few weeks ago that we can't faff around all summer and even into next season with Marcos contract running down.

[Drewry66]

Offer him an extended contract and give him a two week deadline to sign it, we can't have him fcuking us about all summer playing one club off against another, no players are going to sign for us if they think the manager might be leaving.

This all day long, said a few weeks ago that we can't faff around all summer and even into next season with Marcos contract running down.

Yeah agreed. Either commit now or go. Last thing we want to do is spend £100m on Marco players and then he sacks us off. I suppose easier said than done however...we give him the ultimatum and he doesn't agree to sign an extension what do we do? Sack him? That would be bold and costly to pay him out of his contract and get someone else. Got to put some pressure on however and try and get him to sign an extension now. Incentivise with pay rise etc of course. Not sure how he can convince players to come for his long term vision if he only has a year left so needs to show that commitment himself.

[Drewry66]

To be fair thinking about it if this is gonna happen it will happen quickly. Juve would want him in immediately to plan their own transfer business. Suspect we'll know one way or another over the next week or two max. Here's praying.

[C Block]

Offer him an extended contract and give him a two week deadline to sign it, we can't have him fcuking us about all summer playing one club off against another, no players are going to sign for us if they think the manager might be leaving.

This all day long, said a few weeks ago that we can't faff around all summer and even into next season with Marcos contract running down.

Yeah agreed. Either commit now or go. Last thing we want to do is spend £100m on Marco players and then he sacks us off. I suppose easier said than done however...we give him the ultimatum and he doesn't agree to sign an extension what do we do? Sack him? That would be bold and costly to pay him out of his contract and get someone else. Got to put some pressure on however and try and get him to sign an extension now. Incentivise with pay rise etc of course. Not sure how he can convince players to come for his long term vision if he only has a year left so needs to show that commitment himself.

Do the same as QPR and stick him on garden leave.

[St Eve]

WOW! So far he has said he is not going to the Middle East and he will be here next year. He hasn't mentioned Juventus. They apparently want him. He had a year left on his contract. As far as I can see he has done absolutely nothing wrong. It's absurd to put him on gardening leave or give him 2 weeks to sign a contract.

[Angus Telford]

Even if nothing comes of this and he stays next season (25/26) can we see him being here the season after (26/27)? IMO no. If we have another underwhelming 11th-14th sort of season, I think all parties will agree they need to part ways to progress. If we do better and finish top half, surely he'll finally get poached. So IMO this summer, someone besides Silva needs to be dominant in our transfer decisions (and not TK, obviously).

[General]

Offer him an extended contract and give him a two week deadline to sign it, we can't have him fcuking us about all summer playing one club off against another, no players are going to sign for us if they think the manager might be leaving.

This all day long, said a few weeks ago that we can't faff around all summer and even into next season with Marcos contract running down.

Yeah agreed. Either commit now or go. Last thing we want to do is spend £100m on Marco players and then he sacks us off. I suppose easier said than done however...we give him the ultimatum and he doesn't agree to sign an extension what do we do? Sack him? That would be bold and costly to pay him out of his contract and get someone else. Got to put some pressure on however and try and get him to sign an extension now. Incentivise with pay rise etc of course. Not sure how he can convince players to come for his long term vision if he only has a year left so needs to show that commitment himself.

Sorry - what a load of crap. Marco has a good reputation for developing players, but also getting his team to play a good and well respected style of football.

At worst case scenario give him £100 to bring in some very good players and hold him to his contract, so this time next year we're in a better place to A) get him committed to a new contract, and B) if he does leave, give a better squad to whoever may come in - who will likely be better, if they know they've a good squad to work with.

It's so petulant to get rid of a good thing and be triggered by hearsay - he's had rumours around him for the last two summers and hasn't left, and in fact has signed a new contract at the time.

For all you know he could have the contracts he has because he wants to keep the club accountable to investing in the squad and not feeling 100% certain they would if they tied him down longer... perhaps having a shorter contract keeps him intellectually on his feet.

People need to calm the f**k down and stop being so melodramatic about this stuff.

Hodgson left and we spent years yo-yo-ing... We've been through sh*t as a club and always managed to bounce back. Marco's been great for the club so far, so back him. One in the hand is always better than two in the bush.

[Colton F.C.]

[ex-Pat]

  I say go now!! boring every season enough already, Take the Great Cairney with you and Pereira.

                                    Cheers.

[Drewry66]

Offer him an extended contract and give him a two week deadline to sign it, we can't have him fcuking us about all summer playing one club off against another, no players are going to sign for us if they think the manager might be leaving.

This all day long, said a few weeks ago that we can't faff around all summer and even into next season with Marcos contract running down.

Yeah agreed. Either commit now or go. Last thing we want to do is spend £100m on Marco players and then he sacks us off. I suppose easier said than done however...we give him the ultimatum and he doesn't agree to sign an extension what do we do? Sack him? That would be bold and costly to pay him out of his contract and get someone else. Got to put some pressure on however and try and get him to sign an extension now. Incentivise with pay rise etc of course. Not sure how he can convince players to come for his long term vision if he only has a year left so needs to show that commitment himself.

Sorry - what a load of crap. Marco has a good reputation for developing players, but also getting his team to play a good and well respected style of football.

At worst case scenario give him £100 to bring in some very good players and hold him to his contract, so this time next year we're in a better place to A) get him committed to a new contract, and B) if he does leave, give a better squad to whoever may come in - who will likely be better, if they know they've a good squad to work with.

It's so petulant to get rid of a good thing and be triggered by hearsay - he's had rumours around him for the last two summers and hasn't left, and in fact has signed a new contract at the time.

For all you know he could have the contracts he has because he wants to keep the club accountable to investing in the squad and not feeling 100% certain they would if they tied him down longer... perhaps having a shorter contract keeps him intellectually on his feet.

People need to calm the f**k down and stop being so melodramatic about this stuff.

Hodgson left and we spent years yo-yo-ing... We've been through sh*t as a club and always managed to bounce back. Marco's been great for the club so far, so back him. One in the hand is always better than two in the bush.

You make some fair comments mate but what's the need for what a load of crap comment?  Could just make your points without that.

I've never been one to blindly follow rumours. I made the point on here that the Saudi thing was complete BS as so clear from last time he didn't want to go there. Some reputable sources on this one and unlikely I think he'd turn Juve down as an absolutely massive job. I'm not having a go at him. To be fair I wouldn't blame him at all for taking that job over Fulham...what manager wouldn't? My point was more that we need a decision quickly if this Juve offer is really there so we can plan and before we start spending.

I wasn't actually saying that we should sack him if he doesn't sign an extension. To the contrary I was saying that although we want him to commit if he doesn't there aren't really any sensible options for the club other than to just continue as you have outlined. We should in my opinion however try and get him to commit if we can if this Juve thing goes away as I love the guy and think he's been brilliant for the club. Every player that comes says they have done so because of him selling the project to them and them wanting to work with him. Incredibly difficult if they aren't convinced themselves that he is going to be here for long. For this reason all rumours aside I was already desperately hoping he extends.

Totally take the point that sure he'd do brilliantly over the next year if we spend £100m on players he wants. Different managers have different systems and different ideas for the players they want however so there is that side to it as well if we are being balanced. This summer is a huge opportunity to kick on with a very solid team already and hopefully a lot to spend. Praying it is Marco heading that up.

[Deuce]

Ive been preparing for this for at least the past two summers. Marcos work is obviously not going unnoticed and if its not Juve this time then surely its someone else. Another season with Marco is a bonus

Ive read somewhere that Vitor Pereira is/would be considered as a replacement. Wouldnt be against that at all and it would be a nice touch to keep our Lusophone vibe

[Drewry66]

It's frustrating as really couldn't see a top 6 prem side coming in for him until we perhaps did a Forrest of this year. Like Nuno was tarnished with Spurs, Marco has been with Everton. The spurs fans when rumoured almost universally hated the idea. Reckon Ireola would prob be ahead of him in that queue as a result.

This Juve thing if true is a bit of a killer however. He clearly only wants the prem and doubt he wants to be in Italy but it really could be a golden ticket for him to then get a top 6 prem job if successful with Juve for a few years. Could he turn it down because he just doesn't want to leave the prem and with Fulham in a very good position to kick on? It's possible I suppose. My heart hopes but my head on that one says we're stuffed if Juve are serious.

[Deeping_white]

Ive been preparing for this for at least the past two summers. Marcos work is obviously not going unnoticed and if its not Juve this time then surely its someone else. Another season with Marco is a bonus

Ive read somewhere that Vitor Pereira is/would be considered as a replacement. Wouldnt be against that at all and it would be a nice touch to keep our Lusophone vibe

Vitor Pereira isn't a great idea because he plays with a system that we don't really have a squad for in a 3-4-3 or a 3-4-2-1; we'd need to spend more money on defenders who are comfortable in his back 3 system and it would render Robbo less effective from LWB. Our squad is so geared to a 4-3-3 oriented system that we either pick a replacement who can pick up this squad and take it forward with some additions, or we pick a manager who uses a different system and give them shed loads of money to rebuild the squad, which realistically takes two seasons given the first year will be an unknown with new players and new system

[Drewry66]

Ive been preparing for this for at least the past two summers. Marcos work is obviously not going unnoticed and if its not Juve this time then surely its someone else. Another season with Marco is a bonus

Ive read somewhere that Vitor Pereira is/would be considered as a replacement. Wouldnt be against that at all and it would be a nice touch to keep our Lusophone vibe

Vitor Pereira isn't a great idea because he plays with a system that we don't really have a squad for in a 3-4-3 or a 3-4-2-1; we'd need to spend more money on defenders who are comfortable in his back 3 system and it would render Robbo less effective from LWB. Our squad is so geared to a 4-3-3 oriented system that we either pick a replacement who can pick up this squad and take it forward with some additions, or we pick a manager who uses a different system and give them shed loads of money to rebuild the squad, which realistically takes two seasons given the first year will be an unknown with new players and new system

And this is exactly the point of not wanting to spend £100m+ on Marco players if he isn't going to be here for long. Incredibly important to fit players to a managers system unless we find a manager who plays in a similar way. Surely however we want the best manager for the job and their system comes with them. He has performed miracles second half of the season for Wolves but a small sample size of course. With the money we should have to spend possible to tweak things if we really wanted him if Marco did go but again need to sort that soon if it were to happen.

[hovewhite]

This was the same position the last time he was in the situation before he signed again .Think he will do the same again,also to all the posters who want him gone be careful what you wish for.

[Pie n Mash]

This was the same position the last time he was in the situation before he signed again .Think he will do the same again,also to all the posters who want him gone be careful what you wish for.

Or Marco leaving could be the best thing that happens for us.

[General]

Offer him an extended contract and give him a two week deadline to sign it, we can't have him fcuking us about all summer playing one club off against another, no players are going to sign for us if they think the manager might be leaving.

This all day long, said a few weeks ago that we can't faff around all summer and even into next season with Marcos contract running down.

Yeah agreed. Either commit now or go. Last thing we want to do is spend £100m on Marco players and then he sacks us off. I suppose easier said than done however...we give him the ultimatum and he doesn't agree to sign an extension what do we do? Sack him? That would be bold and costly to pay him out of his contract and get someone else. Got to put some pressure on however and try and get him to sign an extension now. Incentivise with pay rise etc of course. Not sure how he can convince players to come for his long term vision if he only has a year left so needs to show that commitment himself.

Sorry - what a load of crap. Marco has a good reputation for developing players, but also getting his team to play a good and well respected style of football.

At worst case scenario give him £100 to bring in some very good players and hold him to his contract, so this time next year we're in a better place to A) get him committed to a new contract, and B) if he does leave, give a better squad to whoever may come in - who will likely be better, if they know they've a good squad to work with.

It's so petulant to get rid of a good thing and be triggered by hearsay - he's had rumours around him for the last two summers and hasn't left, and in fact has signed a new contract at the time.

For all you know he could have the contracts he has because he wants to keep the club accountable to investing in the squad and not feeling 100% certain they would if they tied him down longer... perhaps having a shorter contract keeps him intellectually on his feet.

People need to calm the f**k down and stop being so melodramatic about this stuff.

Hodgson left and we spent years yo-yo-ing... We've been through sh*t as a club and always managed to bounce back. Marco's been great for the club so far, so back him. One in the hand is always better than two in the bush.

You make some fair comments mate but what's the need for what a load of crap comment?  Could just make your points without that.

I've never been one to blindly follow rumours. I made the point on here that the Saudi thing was complete BS as so clear from last time he didn't want to go there. Some reputable sources on this one and unlikely I think he'd turn Juve down as an absolutely massive job. I'm not having a go at him. To be fair I wouldn't blame him at all for taking that job over Fulham...what manager wouldn't? My point was more that we need a decision quickly if this Juve offer is really there so we can plan and before we start spending.

I wasn't actually saying that we should sack him if he doesn't sign an extension. To the contrary I was saying that although we want him to commit if he doesn't there aren't really any sensible options for the club other than to just continue as you have outlined. We should in my opinion however try and get him to commit if we can if this Juve thing goes away as I love the guy and think he's been brilliant for the club. Every player that comes says they have done so because of him selling the project to them and them wanting to work with him. Incredibly difficult if they aren't convinced themselves that he is going to be here for long. For this reason all rumours aside I was already desperately hoping he extends.

Totally take the point that sure he'd do brilliantly over the next year if we spend £100m on players he wants. Different managers have different systems and different ideas for the players they want however so there is that side to it as well if we are being balanced. This summer is a huge opportunity to kick on with a very solid team already and hopefully a lot to spend. Praying it is Marco heading that up.

I appreciate that, and could've used less profane language, but whilst I appreciate the reply - your initial post was a lot more black and white and seemingly emotionally wreckless. You don't give a manager who's been our best since Roy, and who's just got us our record PL points tally, had us in the european spots for most of the season and who has brought on a lot of players, built up a credible reputation for the club and has us playing good football, whilst also  sticking with us through overtures from Saudi AND getting us to multiple QFs and more wins against top opposition that I think we've had under any managers.

And you wanted to give him a black and white ultimatum. You wanted to force him into doing something - which is arguably the most wreckless and disrespectful thing you can do.

Marco's not someone who's got no self esteem and will just buckle because it suits his agenda - he's a PL manager who's worked his way up and done an incredible job to get to the top of his field.

Would you like to be forced into a decision given everything he's done if you were him?

It's incredibly disrespectful and simply not how you treat someone who's done so well for you.

[hopper]

I'm a wee bit jealous of Brentford and Thomas Frank. He's done brilliant, and seems content - never any agent touting him around or paper talk noise around him.

Getting a bit tiresome now as this is third summer of it. Does seem to have some credibility that he's being considered but not seen it say he's top choice.

Silver lining if he does go is that wouldn't be playing against him and seeing him every week.

Been very worried about the day after Silva. I've felt our success in recent years has been his by and large and I don't have much faith in our management. Signings have been good recent years so I do hope that will translate to a managerial appointment. Not an obvious pick out there.

[Drewry66]

Offer him an extended contract and give him a two week deadline to sign it, we can't have him fcuking us about all summer playing one club off against another, no players are going to sign for us if they think the manager might be leaving.

This all day long, said a few weeks ago that we can't faff around all summer and even into next season with Marcos contract running down.

Yeah agreed. Either commit now or go. Last thing we want to do is spend £100m on Marco players and then he sacks us off. I suppose easier said than done however...we give him the ultimatum and he doesn't agree to sign an extension what do we do? Sack him? That would be bold and costly to pay him out of his contract and get someone else. Got to put some pressure on however and try and get him to sign an extension now. Incentivise with pay rise etc of course. Not sure how he can convince players to come for his long term vision if he only has a year left so needs to show that commitment himself.

Sorry - what a load of crap. Marco has a good reputation for developing players, but also getting his team to play a good and well respected style of football.

At worst case scenario give him £100 to bring in some very good players and hold him to his contract, so this time next year we're in a better place to A) get him committed to a new contract, and B) if he does leave, give a better squad to whoever may come in - who will likely be better, if they know they've a good squad to work with.

It's so petulant to get rid of a good thing and be triggered by hearsay - he's had rumours around him for the last two summers and hasn't left, and in fact has signed a new contract at the time.

For all you know he could have the contracts he has because he wants to keep the club accountable to investing in the squad and not feeling 100% certain they would if they tied him down longer... perhaps having a shorter contract keeps him intellectually on his feet.

People need to calm the f**k down and stop being so melodramatic about this stuff.

Hodgson left and we spent years yo-yo-ing... We've been through sh*t as a club and always managed to bounce back. Marco's been great for the club so far, so back him. One in the hand is always better than two in the bush.

You make some fair comments mate but what's the need for what a load of crap comment?  Could just make your points without that.

I've never been one to blindly follow rumours. I made the point on here that the Saudi thing was complete BS as so clear from last time he didn't want to go there. Some reputable sources on this one and unlikely I think he'd turn Juve down as an absolutely massive job. I'm not having a go at him. To be fair I wouldn't blame him at all for taking that job over Fulham...what manager wouldn't? My point was more that we need a decision quickly if this Juve offer is really there so we can plan and before we start spending.

I wasn't actually saying that we should sack him if he doesn't sign an extension. To the contrary I was saying that although we want him to commit if he doesn't there aren't really any sensible options for the club other than to just continue as you have outlined. We should in my opinion however try and get him to commit if we can if this Juve thing goes away as I love the guy and think he's been brilliant for the club. Every player that comes says they have done so because of him selling the project to them and them wanting to work with him. Incredibly difficult if they aren't convinced themselves that he is going to be here for long. For this reason all rumours aside I was already desperately hoping he extends.

Totally take the point that sure he'd do brilliantly over the next year if we spend £100m on players he wants. Different managers have different systems and different ideas for the players they want however so there is that side to it as well if we are being balanced. This summer is a huge opportunity to kick on with a very solid team already and hopefully a lot to spend. Praying it is Marco heading that up.

I appreciate that, and could've used less profane language, but whilst I appreciate the reply - your initial post was a lot more black and white and seemingly emotionally wreckless. You don't give a manager who's been our best since Roy, and who's just got us our record PL points tally, had us in the european spots for most of the season and who has brought on a lot of players, built up a credible reputation for the club and has us playing good football, whilst also  sticking with us through overtures from Saudi AND getting us to multiple QFs and more wins against top opposition that I think we've had under any managers.

And you wanted to give him a black and white ultimatum. You wanted to force him into doing something - which is arguably the most wreckless and disrespectful thing you can do.

Marco's not someone who's got no self esteem and will just buckle because it suits his agenda - he's a PL manager who's worked his way up and done an incredible job to get to the top of his field.

Would you like to be forced into a decision given everything he's done if you were him?

It's incredibly disrespectful and simply not how you treat someone who's done so well for you.

Yeah fair enough mate. To be fair reading my post back read that way so poor form and not really what I meant at all. Im his biggest fan and want him to stay for as long as possible. Just a reaction really to being gutted knowing that if this Juve thing is real we're prob stuffed and really just a simple response to preceding posts.

Did come across as very black and white and if I was in charge of the club I would never be threatening him, especially after all he has done. 

If the Juve thing is real I would however be sitting down with him and saying look Marco you've been absolutely amazing for us and we are desperate for you to stay and we will back you with everything we have but we need to know in the next few weeks if you do want to take the Juve offer. I think that is completely fair enough and I think he would too.

If he wanted to stay or Juve don't actually want him I also think it's perfectly reasonable if he wants the club to spend to the FFP limits on players that he wants to  meet the ambitious plan that he has laid out to also say that we will absolutely do that but we do also want a commitment in return of an extended contract. It's not a one way street. He would of course be rewarded with increased pay and longer in the prem where he wants to be so it's not like he's not getting anything out of it. As I say I was actually questioning the ultimatum as my point was not like we're then going to sack him. If he doesn't want to sign one the club then however has to assess whether they want to back him to the hilt and chuck everything at it this summer if they think he is definitely going to leave next summer because he won't commit. I think there is definitely at least a question of whether or not it is wise to do that and I think it's perfectly reasonable if the club feel that isn't the best option.

For what it's worth if Juve don't go for him I wouldn't be surprised if he did extend. Said on here before I don't think he leaves us unless offered a top 6 prem job or something like Juve that will get him to that. If then that is not on the table then I reckon he stays beyond next summer so can't see why he'd have an issue extending.