Let the conspiracy therories begi
Quote from: White Noise on May 11, 2012, 02:14:21 PM
Unsubstantiated rumours on Twitter that he is out with a hamstring injury.
Okay, who has knobbled him for the summer? Good move, mind you, as he'll fail any medicals. :009:
http://www.talksport.co.uk/sports-news/football/premier-league/transfer-rumours/120511/jol-issues-hands-warning-fulhams-star-duo-171869
Jol issues hands-off warning for Fulham's star duo
By Wally Downes | Friday, May 11, 2012
Fulham manager Martin Jol insists Clint Dempsey and Mousa Dembele are not for sale this summer.
The duo have been linked with moves away from Craven Cottage this summer after enjoying stellar seasons.
Dempsey has been one of the players of the season after scoring 23 goals, while Dembele has blossomed since moving into central midfield from his position on the wing.
But Jol is adamant neither will be leaving this summer as they prepare to head to Tottenham on the last day knowing victory will break the club's best ever points total in the Premier League.
"We have had no bids and they are not for sale," said the Dutchman.
"Clint Dempsey is injured and will not play on Sunday. Dembele will play but he will not go.
"It is hypothetical as we have no bids for Clint or Dembele. They are some of our best players and we want them here."
oh well, Frei to be unleashed against one of the big boys again then, why the hell not
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
Manager's Match Preview
Friday 11th May 2012
(http://www.fulhamfc.com/Images/MainNews/NewsPages/Management/Jol/Conf1.jpg)
Manager Martin Jol has stated that the pressure will be off his Team as they bid to break the Club's record points tally in the Barclays Premier League against Spurs at White Hart Lane on Sunday.
Fulham will however be without leading scorer Clint Dempsey this weekend, who misses out through injury, but Jol is confident his Team can end the season in winning fashion.
"I want to get the three points on Sunday," Jol told the assembled media at Motspur Park on Friday afternoon. "There's no pressure on us this weekend and hopefully we'll enjoy the game.
"We've had a good season but our final league position is not in our own hands on Sunday. The only thing which is in our own hands is to go out and get a good result against Spurs.
"We wanted to finish in the top 10 this season and we're now in a fine position. It would be marvellous to get another three points on Sunday and finish the season on 55 points.
"We're the top team in the London derby games which is a good statistic. Spurs are the only team to have beaten us and we deserved more from that game at Craven Cottage. I think we were the better team but they had four attempts on goal and scored three goals. That is efficiency and they're a very good football team."
Joining Clint Dempsey on the sidelines is midfielder Dickson Etuhu, whilst Alex Kacaniklic is also a doubt for Sunday's match at White Hart Lane.
"Clint is injured so he won't play on Sunday," confirmed Jol. "He's got a problem with his left abductor so he won't be involved.
"Dickson Etuhu also has a problem with his right knee so he won't be available. Alex Kacaniklic is a doubt as he dropped out of training on Friday with a little problem with his hamstring."
Read more: http://www.fulhamfc.com/Club/News/NewsArticles/2012/May/JolSpursPreview.aspx#ixzz1uZSKc7HZ (http://www.fulhamfc.com/Club/News/NewsArticles/2012/May/JolSpursPreview.aspx#ixzz1uZSKc7HZ)
Looking forward to seing Frei again, he does well against the bigger sides.
Quote from: horse1031 on May 11, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
Saw Clint this morning and he was just coming back from MP after a long session with the medical team, hamstring tight apparently so will not be at WHL on sunday asked him if he was leaving and said not as far as he is aware, talks over contract extension ongoing at the moment but is very happy at FFC starsnstripes
Quote from: JBH on May 11, 2012, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on May 11, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
Saw Clint this morning and he was just coming back from MP after a long session with the medical team, hamstring tight apparently so will not be at WHL on sunday asked him if he was leaving and said not as far as he is aware, talks over contract extension ongoing at the moment but is very happy at FFC starsnstripes
1) I hope you're right
2) I hope he's not just saying the right thing
be interesting where the goals are going to come from this weekend... Hope Dembele gets one!!!
though more importantly, no Scott Parker so Mousa should have a pretty much free run at their defence
Quote from: elgreenio on May 11, 2012, 03:58:19 PM
though more importantly, no Scott Parker so Mousa should have a pretty much free run at their defence
Think you'll find Sandro will be playing, one of the most athletic and technically gifted defensive midfielders in the league at the moment. His last two performances have been sensational, Moussa will have a big task getting past him before he reaches their back line.
I have 2 thoughts about this:
1) Dempsey is leaving.
2) We might actually play with some width! I'd play Frei on the RIGHT, as they're doing to have a makeshift leftback playing (unless they drop Bale back)
It looks as if the injury is genuine.
But it won't stop some sides making a pitch for his services...
It comes down to whether he wants to be a benchwarmer at a Big 4 club, or a guaranteed starter for us.
Quote from: horse1031 on May 11, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
what? what? Are you seriously implying that Mr. Jol might be lying to the press? Prepare yourself for the onslaught of Jol defenders!
Quote from: Burt on May 11, 2012, 04:27:36 PM
It looks as if the injury is genuine.
But it won't stop some sides making a pitch for his services...
It comes down to whether he wants to be a benchwarmer at a Big 4 club, or a guaranteed starter for us.
(this isnt aimed personally at you Burt)
Of course the injury is genuine!
What would we possibly gain from benching him? He gives us a better chance of winning the game when played.
Its not like leaving him out of one match would make everyone forget about him, he has been great all season. Any manager who forgets this fact because he missed one game would have to be one of the biggest idiots ever.
Disappointing news. Will give us some insight into whether we can cope without him.
I'll join the skeptic club and think the injury is fabricated. Terms have been agreed and the buying club doesn't want him to sustain a serious injury in the last match...though I hope he is injured (strange saying that)
Quote from: nevzter on May 11, 2012, 04:49:36 PM
I'll join the skeptic club and think the injury is fabricated. Terms have been agreed and the buying club doesn't want him to sustain a serious injury in the last match...though I hope he is injured (strange saying that)
US National team has 3 friendlies coming up this month against Scotland, Brazil, and Canada and a world cup qualifier on June 8--so Sunday is not his "last match" by any means. Besides, Deuce don't roll like that. He wants to be on the pitch no matter what. He's injured all right.
Quote from: HatterDon on May 11, 2012, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on May 11, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
what? what? Are you seriously implying that Mr. Jol might be lying to the press? Prepare yourself for the onslaught of Jol defenders!
Here comes the first. The poor guy is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. I've lost count of the times he has been criticised on here for being too honest with the media. 086.gif :015:
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on May 11, 2012, 04:39:36 PM
Quote from: Burt on May 11, 2012, 04:27:36 PM
It looks as if the injury is genuine.
But it won't stop some sides making a pitch for his services...
It comes down to whether he wants to be a benchwarmer at a Big 4 club, or a guaranteed starter for us.
(this isnt aimed personally at you Burt)
Of course the injury is genuine!
What would we possibly gain from benching him? He gives us a better chance of winning the game when played.
Its not like leaving him out of one match would make everyone forget about him, he has been great all season. Any manager who forgets this fact because he missed one game would have to be one of the biggest idiots ever.
Completely agree.
The conspiracy theorists would have it that a deal has been agreed and that the new club don't want to risk a career-ending injury before he joins...
I am not in that camp by the way.
Quote from: White Noise on May 11, 2012, 02:14:21 PM
Let the conspiracy therories begi
I am quite relaxed in thinking you missed the 'n' of on purpose but I will also accept that it has been kidnapped and locked in a darkened room whilst contract negotiations proceed via a series of agents. It might be worth looking at team sheets on sunday to see if Hagalad and Va de Vart are okay. Ultimately the CIA will blame the mafia ........ you heard it here firs.
I'm far from being Jol's biggest fan but I see no reason whatsoever to doubt what he has said about Demps. (and Dembele).
I imagine that if an offer comes in for Demps. he'll think long and hard before accepting it. He doesn't seem the sort of player who would be happy playing a bit part at the likes of one of the Manchester clubs, and with the best will in the world I don't see him as quite good enough to be an (almost) automatic first pick with one of them.
Assuming the Club offers him a decent contract, I think he's quite likely to stay - certainly can't see him going to the likes of Liverpool on the off chance they might qualify for the Champions League - in the UK for the next two or three years only the two Manchester clubs seem guaranteed qualifiers.
Starbucks in Wimbledon was crowded this morning. Clint Dempsey was sitting at the only table with a spare place, so I asked him if he would mind if I sat there.
"Suit yussen, soft lad," he said affably.
I asked him if he was already looking forward to next year. "Oh aye, I'm really made up, me. It's gonna be a lorra, lorra fun. Any road I've gorra catch a train to Houston [I may have missheard this, could have been "...a train at Euston"]". And with that he sprinted off like an Olympic athlete, accidentally leaving me with his bill and whistling an old Gerry and the Pacemakers tune from the 60s. It was only then that I realised he had nicked my wallet.
I'm sure he is staying.
Quote from: cmg on May 11, 2012, 06:39:57 PM
Starbucks in Wimbledon was crowded this morning. Clint Dempsey was sitting at the only table with a spare place, so I asked him if he would mind if I sat there.
"Suit yussen, soft lad," he said affably.
I asked him if he was already looking forward to next year. "Oh aye, I'm really made up, me. It's gonna be a lorra, lorra fun. Any road I've gorra catch a train to Houston [I may have missheard this, could have been "...a train at Euston"]". And with that he sprinted off like an Olympic athlete, accidentally leaving me with his bill and whistling an old Gerry and the Pacemakers tune from the 60s. It was only then that I realised he had nicked my wallet.
I'm sure he is staying.
:clap_hands:
Quote from: LordNelson on May 11, 2012, 04:58:35 PM
Quote from: nevzter on May 11, 2012, 04:49:36 PM
I'll join the skeptic club and think the injury is fabricated. Terms have been agreed and the buying club doesn't want him to sustain a serious injury in the last match...though I hope he is injured (strange saying that)
US National team has 3 friendlies coming up this month against Scotland, Brazil, and Canada and a world cup qualifier on June 8--so Sunday is not his "last match" by any means. Besides, Deuce don't roll like that. He wants to be on the pitch no matter what. He's injured all right.
And thus, a hamstring injury is very ambiguous and can take weeks to properly heal... 086.gif
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Perhaps the contract has already been agreed with The Devil
.............................Demps said he wants Champions League football,it would not do if he scored on Sunday and dumped
Spurts into 5th place
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Quote from: JBH on May 11, 2012, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on May 11, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
Saw Clint this morning and he was just coming back from MP after a long session with the medical team, hamstring tight apparently so will not be at WHL on sunday asked him if he was leaving and said not as far as he is aware, talks over contract extension ongoing at the moment but is very happy at FFC starsnstripes
Whilst that's nice to hear he's not likely to tell you is he, leaking this news would be disastrous for everyone concerned.
Quote from: KCat on May 11, 2012, 07:01:30 PM
Perhaps the contract has already been agreed with The Devil
.............................Demps said he wants Champions League football,it would not do if he scored on Sunday and dumped
Spurts into 5th place
Blimey. It gets deeper and deeper. Sign me up for your next conspiracy I had'nt even flirted with this option.
Quote from: HatterDon on May 11, 2012, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on May 11, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
what? what? Are you seriously implying that Mr. Jol might be lying to the press? Prepare yourself for the onslaught of Jol defenders!
Yes but Senderos is rubbish and his defending is awful except when he is really good and Hughes plays better with Brede anyway and Brede is rubbish when Senderos is playing alongside him. Except when he is not. So we don't need any more Jol Defenders grasping the wrong end of the proverbial.
With all this talk about Dempsey and the conspiracy theories surrounding him, if anyone wants me I'll be in the bunker donning aluminum foil undergarments. Toodle pip...
Talking about foil, I've just been strolling round Avebury stone circle and there was a guy in the car park with shreds of tin foil protecting the back of his van! Maybe he has heard the Dempsey conspiracy theorys snd are trying to keep the mind police away ;-)
Quote from: Lighthouse on May 11, 2012, 08:01:04 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on May 11, 2012, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on May 11, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
what? what? Are you seriously implying that Mr. Jol might be lying to the press? Prepare yourself for the onslaught of Jol defenders!
Yes but Senderos is rubbish and his defending is awful except when he is really good and Hughes plays better with Brede anyway and Brede is rubbish when Senderos is playing alongside him. Except when he is not. So we don't need any more Jol Defenders grasping the wrong end of the proverbial.
I'll thank you not to grab either end of my proverbial.
(http://www.independent.co.uk/incoming/article7718553.ece/ALTERNATES/w380/Pg-9s-dempsey-getty-pa.jpg)
What's all the fuss about?
It's obvious, the Deuce has thrown a sickie because Extreme Fishing is on the Discovery Channel on Sunday. :hook:
Got to say I think he's really injured. Would be a massive personal disappointment if he's just pretending to be.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 11, 2012, 09:03:26 PM
Got to say I think he's really injured. Would be a massive personal disappointment if he's just pretending to be.
+1
Jol said that our finishing place is out of our hands? Er no, if we win and other results go our way, we finish 7th.
The one word I had never heard associated with Dempsey before today is quitter. I am inclined to believe the man is injured.
Quote from: Shredhead on May 11, 2012, 11:06:37 PM
Jol said that our finishing place is out of our hands? Er no, if we win and other results go our way, we finish 7th.
The underlined portion clearly defines out of our hands.
Quote from: JBH on May 11, 2012, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on May 11, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
Saw Clint this morning and he was just coming back from MP after a long session with the medical team, hamstring tight apparently so will not be at WHL on sunday asked him if he was leaving and said not as far as he is aware, talks over contract extension ongoing at the moment but is very happy at FFC starsnstripes
"not as far as he is aware"
That phrase bothers me! Implying it's somehow not his decision!
Jol wants him to stay, so who else would be aware?
Quote from: premFlem on May 11, 2012, 11:36:28 PM
Could it be Clint is signing for Tottenham and doesn't want to stop them getting a champions league place.
No way Clint's on our payroll and acting in the interests of another team - especially not the one we're playing this week! If Jol is benching him to protect a team asset about to be sold, at least that's the team acting in it's own interest. Even this seems out of the question to me, though, as long as the team still has a sniff at: 1) next season's Europa, 2) 7th place, 3) it's highest ever PL points total, 4) winning the 'London table,' and 5) sticking it to Spurs as payback for MJ's sacking.
Quote from: JBH on May 11, 2012, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on May 11, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
Saw Clint this morning and he was just coming back from MP after a long session with the medical team, hamstring tight apparently so will not be at WHL on sunday asked him if he was leaving and said not as far as he is aware, talks over contract extension ongoing at the moment but is very happy at FFC starsnstripes
I hope you are right. That is the best news I have heard today. I'm a bit late to this thread but thanks for posting it.
Quote from: HatterDon on May 11, 2012, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on May 11, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
what? what? Are you seriously implying that Mr. Jol might be lying to the press? Prepare yourself for the onslaught of Jol defenders!
We are officially called the "Jol lovers brigade", let's get it right HD! :dft012:
Quote from: ScalleysDad on May 11, 2012, 05:14:47 PM
Quote from: White Noise on May 11, 2012, 02:14:21 PM
Let the conspiracy therories begi
I am quite relaxed in thinking you missed the 'n' of on purpose but I will also accept that it has been kidnapped and locked in a darkened room whilst contract negotiations proceed via a series of agents. It might be worth looking at team sheets on sunday to see if Hagalad and Va de Vart are okay. Ultimately the CIA will blame the mafia ........ you heard it here firs.
Quality! :54:
Quote from: MikeR on May 12, 2012, 01:56:02 AM
Quote from: premFlem on May 11, 2012, 11:36:28 PM
Could it be Clint is signing for Tottenham and doesn't want to stop them getting a champions league place.
No way Clint's on our payroll and acting in the interests of another team - especially not the one we're playing this week! If Jol is benching him to protect a team asset about to be sold, at least that's the team acting in it's own interest. Even this seems out of the question to me, though, as long as the team still has a sniff at: 1) next season's Europa, 2) 7th place, 3) it's highest ever PL points total, 4) winning the 'London table,' and 5) sticking it to Spurs as payback for MJ's sacking.
A silly conspiracy theory joke from me there... sorry.
Quote from: RidgeRider on May 12, 2012, 02:18:45 AM
Quote from: HatterDon on May 11, 2012, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on May 11, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
what? what? Are you seriously implying that Mr. Jol might be lying to the press? Prepare yourself for the onslaught of Jol defenders!
We are officially called the "Jol lovers brigade", let's get it right HD! :dft012:
Is Jol a short, bald guy with the #3 on his back?
Quote from: HatterDon on May 12, 2012, 03:07:09 AM
Quote from: RidgeRider on May 12, 2012, 02:18:45 AM
Quote from: HatterDon on May 11, 2012, 04:36:17 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on May 11, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
what? what? Are you seriously implying that Mr. Jol might be lying to the press? Prepare yourself for the onslaught of Jol defenders!
We are officially called the "Jol lovers brigade", let's get it right HD! :dft012:
Is Jol a short, bald guy with the #3 on his back?
Don't get me started...... :dft004:...now look what you've done. :dft012:
I am in the actual injury camp. Been looking it up, Clint has been involved in 46 matches this season.
Quote from: RidgeRider on May 12, 2012, 02:12:07 AM
Quote from: JBH on May 11, 2012, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: horse1031 on May 11, 2012, 03:11:58 PM
he's off. no way is he injured.:) :doh:
Saw Clint this morning and he was just coming back from MP after a long session with the medical team, hamstring tight apparently so will not be at WHL on sunday asked him if he was leaving and said not as far as he is aware, talks over contract extension ongoing at the moment but is very happy at FFC starsnstripes
I hope you are right. That is the best news I have heard today. I'm a bit late to this thread but thanks for posting it.
You do realise that this is a wind up post, don't you?
Good bit of kidology if you ask me. Wenger, Redknapp etc looking to go against their instincts of not buying older players with no resale value at the end of it, Dempsey a 29 yr old gets a hamstring problem just as they are about to start bidding, just puts another doubt in their heads as to whether it's a good move as the 29yr old wants a 3 year contract, maybe enough to make them push him down their wanted list so if they get the other players they want he stays with us.
It's very Fergerson'esque
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hes injured, fulham have nothing to gain from feigning an injury and it goes totally against clint's character too.