Well done Chelsea, you deserved that
I think to be fair Bayern Lost it rather than Chelsea winning it!
I agree with you Mr P.
I find it hard to hate di matteo
Quote from: FLETCHINO on May 19, 2012, 10:57:18 PM
I find it hard to hate di matteo
Given the way he's climbed in the world of football, me too.
Quote from: Aldo on May 19, 2012, 10:54:58 PM
I think to be fair Bayern Lost it rather than Chelsea winning it!
It's not over until Jan Molby sings.
I agree, a masterminded Chelsea success. Well done to all of them.
Quote from: Peabody on May 19, 2012, 10:47:50 PM
Well done Chelsea, you deserved that
Yeah, whatever. :016:
For a small team in Fulham, they did well. Fair play to them
I feel quite sick
Quote from: FLETCHINO on May 19, 2012, 10:57:18 PM
I find it hard to hate di matteo
Given that he's s dead ringer for coronation streets Gail Platt, I thought he'd be just your type.
It was so jammy though wasn't it? Should Bayern and Barca finished more clinically Chelsea would have been gone a long time ago.
Feel so sorry Bayern, much the better side, but fair play to Chelsea beating Barcelona and coming off the ropes tonight
Quote from: Frankie-Peter Taylor on May 19, 2012, 11:09:50 PM
It was so jammy though wasn't it? Should Bayern and Barca finished more clinically Chelsea would have been gone a long time ago.
They didn't!
Quote from: leonffc on May 19, 2012, 11:05:32 PM
Quote from: FLETCHINO on May 19, 2012, 10:57:18 PM
I find it hard to hate di matteo
Given that he's s dead ringer for coronation streets Gail Platt, I thought he'd be just your type.
She goes to the same church as me...!!!! St Andrews
Good result for Chelsea, bad result for football.
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:26:00 PM
Good result for Chelsea, bad result for football.
Nonsense.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:28:19 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:26:00 PM
Good result for Chelsea, bad result for football.
Nonsense.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not discrediting there win but they played very anti football, just sat back the majority of the game. This will only encourage other teams to adopt a similar approach which I think is negative for the game.
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:32:41 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:28:19 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:26:00 PM
Good result for Chelsea, bad result for football.
Nonsense.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not discrediting there win but they played very anti football, just sat back the majority of the game. This will only encourage other teams to adopt a similar approach which I think is negative for the game.
They knew their weaknesses.
I am glad I did not watch the game. Based on the statistics, Bayern constantly in attack and Chelsea constantly defending. Apparently the days in which a willingness to play football have gone. Just build a trench, place 10 men in front of the goalkeeper and sit still for 90 minutes.
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:32:41 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:28:19 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:26:00 PM
Good result for Chelsea, bad result for football.
Nonsense.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not discrediting there win but they played very anti football, just sat back the majority of the game. This will only encourage other teams to adopt a similar approach which I think is negative for the game.
Don't agree Jack. Chelsea were negative, as they were against Barca, but both teams had plenty of opportunities to win and didn't take them. In that respect anti-football winning the CL was a bit of a fluke and will soon be forgotten.
Chelsea remain far from being the team their supporters think they are and next season I am sure that normality will be resumed!
All in all, a good day for a couple of London teams. Taking the attitude that we'd like to see extended to us in the reverse case, Well Done to Chelsea for a great victory, and Well Done to West Ham for joining the elite once more.
Pure and simple, no ifs and buts.
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:35:38 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:32:41 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:28:19 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:26:00 PM
Good result for Chelsea, bad result for football.
Nonsense.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not discrediting there win but they played very anti football, just sat back the majority of the game. This will only encourage other teams to adopt a similar approach which I think is negative for the game.
They knew their weaknesses.
I understand it is the only way they could of won the game but yeah, it makes football less exciting. Game was dramatic but quite boring due to the tactics adopted by Chelsea.
It was not anti-football, but the right tactics to play in an away final and for the desire and determination they showed they deserved it
I presume Di Matteo will stay now. I think he may have a difficult task rebuilding the team with younger players in the same way AVB did, it's easier to be a caretaker i feel.
If RDM gets the job permanently it will be interesting to see how he does. He sacrificed the league for cup wins and they finished the season further away from 4th than when he took over. Fair play to them though.
I have to say, I have seen Fulham play a defensive game in the past, though I don't recall the 'bad day for football' comments accompanying it.
That other SW6 team did what they needed to do, nothing dirty like Stoke though, and they did make a number of chances, though nowhere near as many as BM.
The bottom line is, for teams to be THE best, they should be able to overcome almost any defensive tactics, however hard it might be. That SW6 team got lucky tonight, but they walked away with 2 pieces of silverware this season, so I guess that's what they would call success. 093.gif
A few points.
Bayern lost it is Robben's saved shot
Well done for them to stick it out and keep their nerve in penalties.
We can say we beat the Champions of Europe at home next season.
How many days will pass between Di Matteo's hiring and firing?
Got to love David Luiz, he is such a good defender and helped Chelsea win the league tonight (along with Cahill) he didn't make once mistake.
fair play to Chelsea but they best not get used to it, I would love to see odds for Fulham to win the Champions League before Chelsea do next as I think it could be possible!
Chelsea win the European Cup
Qpr stay up
Awful, just awful.
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:32:41 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:28:19 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:26:00 PM
Good result for Chelsea, bad result for football.
Nonsense.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not discrediting there win but they played very anti football, just sat back the majority of the game. This will only encourage other teams to adopt a similar approach which I think is negative for the game.
If you're forced to go to their ground for the final, you're bound to choose a defensive setup to have any chance at all. What concrete tactical suggestions do you have for the visitors, that was likely to be more successful than the defensive one that was actually employed?
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:35:38 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:32:41 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:28:19 PM
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Good result for Chelsea, bad result for football.
Nonsense.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not discrediting there win but they played very anti football, just sat back the majority of the game. This will only encourage other teams to adopt a similar approach which I think is negative for the game.
They knew their weaknesses.
The Scum won - not Bayern lost. I have to agree with Mr Fulham's sentiments.
Petr Cech is just the best. He saved three in total and the scum scored off their one and only corner. The weight may have been too much for the home team and Robben came up small again. If Fulham would have won using similar tactics the angst would not be so great. I hate the scum but I am going to tip the cap for the fight and guile and guts it took to win that match. I had to listen on the radio and it was certainly not a dull match to listen to. I will watch dvr tomorrow. I am much more upset about poor Blackpool not pulling it out and coming back up.
Quote from: Aldo on May 19, 2012, 10:54:58 PM
I think to be fair Bayern Lost it rather than Chelsea winning it!
I agree Aldo. Bayern= :020:
There is a lot of skill and a lot of luck in football. The game was decided on Bayern's bad shooting luck and Chelsea's defensive skill, plus Drogba at both ends. God bless his talent and attitude - can we get him for next season?
Re: NFR: Its got to be said - Oh no it hasn't.
No way that I would watch that game with WGDTFC playing. Worst possible outcome in my view.
this from twitter...
Following their CL win, Chelsea fans have signed a 1 year extension to remain at the club.
They had been strongly linked to Man City.
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:32:41 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:28:19 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:26:00 PM
Good result for Chelsea, bad result for football.
Nonsense.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not discrediting there win but they played very anti football, just sat back the majority of the game. This will only encourage other teams to adopt a similar approach which I think is negative for the game.
You must have been devastated when we beat Shatkar Donetsk over two legs!!
Quote from: WhiteJC on May 20, 2012, 07:42:31 AM
this from twitter...
Following their CL win, Chelsea fans have signed a 1 year extension to remain at the club.
They had been strongly linked to Man City.
:011: :011: Quality. Sorry Mr Peabody but Chelsea didn't deserve to win, they was played off the park and only extremely poor finishing stopped them getting spanked.
I thought it was a prerty boring match for the first hour and a quarter, then it livened up after Bayern scored, even the extra time part wasn't that exciting apart from the penalty shoot out. It probably sounded more of an exciting game throughtout on the radio because the commentators jazzed it up abit, didn't seem that way watching it.
Quote from: SG on May 20, 2012, 06:53:12 AM
Re: NFR: Its got to be said - Oh no it hasn't.
No way that I would watch that game with WGDTFC playing. Worst possible outcome in my view.
Yes it does need to be said, it's called sportsmanship. What did you critics expect of them? They were playing in a very hostile environment, two thirds of the crowd were home supporters, of course they were going to play defence more than attack. Some of you say that Bayern did'nt scvore well Chelsea did and AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT IS WHAT WINS FOOTBALL MATCHES.
Quote from: Peabody on May 20, 2012, 09:24:58 AM
Quote from: SG on May 20, 2012, 06:53:12 AM
Re: NFR: Its got to be said - Oh no it hasn't.
No way that I would watch that game with WGDTFC playing. Worst possible outcome in my view.
Yes it does need to be said, it's called sportsmanship. What did you critics expect of them? They were playing in a very hostile environment, two thirds of the crowd were home supporters, of course they were going to play defence more than attack. Some of you say that Bayern did'nt scvore well Chelsea did and AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT IS WHAT WINS FOOTBALL MATCHES.
Yeah but they still didn't deserve to win.
Agree with LeonFFC on this. I was in Donetsk for probably the best defensive display I have ever seen FFC put in. Did FFC play the more attractive attacking football than Shaktar over 2-legs? Definitely not. Also did Milan not do this to Barca in a recent Champions League final?
Play to your strengths to win. Congratulations to Chelsea from me.
Quote from: FFC73 on May 20, 2012, 10:06:07 AM
Agree with LeonFFC on this. I was in Donetsk for probably the best defensive display I have ever seen FFC put in. Did FFC play the more attractive attacking football than Shaktar over 2-legs? Definitely not. Also did Milan not do this to Barca in a recent Champions League final?
Play to your strengths to win. Congratulations to Chelsea from me.
Yep Shaktar was a terrific performance, as was the Filths last night, but on both occaisions neither of us deserved to win, though obviously i'm glad we did.
Quote from: FatFreddysCat on May 20, 2012, 09:47:17 AM
Quote from: Peabody on May 20, 2012, 09:24:58 AM
Quote from: SG on May 20, 2012, 06:53:12 AM
Re: NFR: Its got to be said - Oh no it hasn't.
No way that I would watch that game with WGDTFC playing. Worst possible outcome in my view.
Yes it does need to be said, it's called sportsmanship. What did you critics expect of them? They were playing in a very hostile environment, two thirds of the crowd were home supporters, of course they were going to play defence more than attack. Some of you say that Bayern did'nt scvore well Chelsea did and AT THE END OF THE DAY, THAT IS WHAT WINS FOOTBALL MATCHES.
Yeah but they still didn't deserve to win.
Matter of opinion Fred
Quote from: WhiteJC on May 20, 2012, 07:42:31 AM
this from twitter...
Following their CL win, Chelsea fans have signed a 1 year extension to remain at the club.
They had been strongly linked to Man City.
Very good, and so quick. If you don't mind I'll use this later today.
Quote from: SG on May 20, 2012, 06:53:12 AM
Re: NFR: Its got to be said - Oh no it hasn't.
No way that I would watch that game with WGDTFC playing. Worst possible outcome in my view.
Well said
SG...I don't watch them (apart from when we play them), don't read about them if I can help it...Only found out this morning that they had one...now this summer you will see loads of new Filth shirts everywhere...
I'm going to have to bite my lip a lot...
So who is going to go with Fat Freddie's Cat to see the Cup at 4pm at Fulham Broadway???
I think that everyone that can go should go, after all, when are you ever going to see that cup in real life again?
Monstrous achievement by RDM and you have to take your hat off to him.
Quote from: leonffc on May 20, 2012, 08:11:50 AM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:32:41 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:28:19 PM
Quote from: Jack Fulham on May 19, 2012, 11:26:00 PM
Good result for Chelsea, bad result for football.
Nonsense.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not discrediting there win but they played very anti football, just sat back the majority of the game. This will only encourage other teams to adopt a similar approach which I think is negative for the game.
You must have been devastated when we beat Shatkar Donetsk over two legs!!
Haha, that's a fair point. With shakhtar though, it was more of a case of us not being to get the ball most the game. I completely understand why Chelsea did what they did but yeah I hate it when teams park the bus as the fans want to see good football, not anti football. Anyone remember our 1 nil defeat to Hull at the Cottage a few years back when manucho scored in the last minute? That is the sort of thing that annoys me.
I was supporting bayern all the way but as stated, hats off tto them in the end. Schweinsteiger, of all people :dft004: to miss.
I dunno, is this a generation thing? To me, a real oldie, I just think it right and proper to congratulate someone when they achieve something and to my way of thinking, Chelsea did do just that. As has been stated, when we got to Hamburg, they (Chelsea Fans) were generous in their praise for us and I know for a fact that quite a lot were routing for us in the Final. It just seems right and proper to me, to be just as magnaminous in what was a terrific acheivment.
Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner
That I love London so
Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner
That I think of her wherever I go
I get a funny feeling inside of me
When walking up and down
Maybe it's because I'm a Londoner
That I love London Town
Has anyone got Alan Mullery's version of this?
I think Billy Cotton has CH!
Quote from: Peabody on May 20, 2012, 01:20:16 PM
I think Billy Cotton has CH!
And Two-Ton Tessie O'Shea
and Tommy Trinder
Just tried to find the Mcvicar version on youtube but not there :035: . "well show these Northern maggots"
Quote from: sipwell on May 19, 2012, 11:38:00 PM
I am glad I did not watch the game. Based on the statistics, Bayern constantly in attack and Chelsea constantly defending. Apparently the days in which a willingness to play football have gone. Just build a trench, place 10 men in front of the goalkeeper and sit still for 90 minutes.
There is absolutely nothing new about "parking the bus" - the likes of Inter Milan did it very successfully in the 1960s and of course Bayern Munich had great success with it in the 1970s. It's up to the attacking team not to willfully squander the multitude of chances created. It's no different ,say, than The Netherlands squandering a hat full of chances in 1974 against West Germany. What's the expression - you snooze, you lose!
Unfortunately I fall into the camp who does not get any pleasure watching Chelsea anywhere, but I am with Mr Peabody to say they really out-coached and out-played a much better Bayern side to the point they didn't want to take penalties. They should be happy John "banana-skin" Terry was suspended though.
Matteo should be their next permanent manager, but his name is not big enough for the Russian.
Do I care, absolutely not.
COYW!!