4 games to go, need to win every game. Feels like we are 98% down for sure, almost impossible.
Would surely be the Greatest Escape of the Premier League era, at least, if we do it
I think 10 point might do...but still almost impossible
Can we convince the Man U fans to protest enough for our game with them to be cancelled? They don't need to points to qualify for the CL so a 3 nil win for us can hope fully be arranged...
Stop It.
I like the style of the OP. I agree it is possible and will be willing it to be so.
Never give up.
Unlikely i agree but we are still alive.
If we were to stay up a Great Escape would have to be accompanied by the greatest of Great Collapses by the team that finished third from bottom. It is just not going to happen.
Quote from: filham on May 05, 2021, 02:36:18 PM
If we were to stay up a Great Escape would have to be accompanied by the greatest of Great Collapses by the team that finished third from bottom. It is just not going to happen.
It probably isn't but we are all at the bottom because we are not good enough. There a re a few not unreasonable permutations for us but we actually have to do something we have not so far this season.... WIN a few games in a row!
Very unlucky not to beat Arsenal, and pretty unlucky v Chelsea - home and away.
I feel that we are due to give a team a hiding, but winning 4 games.....
Burnley will be a very tough game for a start, they will come determined not to concede an to go away with something.
Hahaha....give it up already. This is goofy talk........
Quote from: ALG01 on May 05, 2021, 02:39:32 PM
Quote from: filham on May 05, 2021, 02:36:18 PM
If we were to stay up a Great Escape would have to be accompanied by the greatest of Great Collapses by the team that finished third from bottom. It is just not going to happen.
It probably isn't but we are all at the bottom because we are not good enough. There a re a few not unreasonable permutations for us but we actually have to do something we have not so far this season.... WIN a few games in a row!
And score a good few more goals than we have done in a long while.
Burnley bumming us at home incoming
Based on the current odds for relegation...we have less than 2% chance of staying up.
Although the odds are stacked against us I wouldn't assume anything, even with a 2% chance of survival. Survival is possible and I certainly haven't seen a team that's given up.
What odds would you get from the bookies of us staying up? Not that I'm going to throw any money away betting on our survival. Probably more chance of winning the lottery or being struck by lightning, Twice!
Not a snowball in hell chance of staying up. Burnley will probably see to that in our next home game
Quote from: Southdowns White on May 05, 2021, 04:34:40 PM
What odds would you get from the bookies of us staying up? Not that I'm going to throw any money away betting on our survival. Probably more chance of winning the lottery or being struck by lightning, Twice!
you can probably get 100/1, or at least close to that...its between 1/33 and 1/100 on us getting relegated...
The only doubt now is whether we finish 18th or 19th
I still believe,
but Parker still has the win 1 -0 mentality, as soon as a 'mistake' happens etc, the mindset is defending, we don't have the 'gears' to get back into the match.
Would be a good escape, never the best, that was Alfie Hinds back in the Fifties.
Quote from: We Are Premier League on May 05, 2021, 01:07:01 PM
Can we convince the Man U fans to protest enough for our game with them to be cancelled? They don't need to points to qualify for the CL so a 3 nil win for us can hope fully be arranged...
The Glazers would love, Burnley to go down as the less team in the traditional county of Lancashire the better for them in terms of local support and the more overcrowed London is with PL clubs, the better for them too. Thanks to the Glazers the ManUnited players are all on bonus' for winning the Europa, so players know their priorities.
Man U, and City, already draw a lot of support away from the clubs around them, Bolton and Wigan are good examples, but the Burnley support seems to have stood up well - with their success at staying in the Prem.
I think Huddersfield got decent support with their great achievement of being in the Prem, and staying there for a couple of seasons.
Seeing how they are today, is salutary for for Fulham fans perhaps.
I doubt the Glazers are worried about the support given to the neighbouring clubs - they know Old Trafford will always be packed out - fans travel there from all over the country, and the world.
Quote from: Whitestone on May 05, 2021, 04:20:23 PM
Although the odds are stacked against us I wouldn't assume anything, even with a 2% chance of survival. Survival is possible and I certainly haven't seen a team that's given up.
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Scott won't allow the players to give up while there is still a chance , however slight.
I expect he will still want to win the games left, even if/when relegation is confirmed, and just playing for pride.
Quote from: RaySmith on May 06, 2021, 04:38:33 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on May 05, 2021, 04:20:23 PM
Although the odds are stacked against us I wouldn't assume anything, even with a 2% chance of survival. Survival is possible and I certainly haven't seen a team that's given up.
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Scott won't allow the players to give up while there is still a chance , however slight.
I expect he will still want to win the games left, even if/when relegation is confirmed, and just playing for pride.
That's the problem. He seems not to want to lose games. Winning is a mentality...he doesn't have it.
It would have been pleasant for once in the Khan era to have a Club that gave PL survival their everything at the very first opportunity. Our owners didn't have the nous to allow that to happen and conspired to confound it. Since then the dross has got worse and worse, and the mistakes ever more commonplace. Relegation, if it happens, is a disaster but, with skilled hands on the tiller, can be made a turning point for the whole Club and its ethos. Will it happen? I am not optimistic, TBH.
The evidence of failed personnel is there for all of us to see, not least the posting of 'multi-talented TK's latest in-depth interview' [sic] by a third party in which FFC gets a passing reference. We have been left relying upon other teams to fail which has been the case with all the knife edge situations we have seen under the Khans. We do not have a winning formula behind the scenes and so I am just grateful to have witnessed the class of Andersen and Areola in this very, very disappointing season. I just hope that TK does the right thing and leaves FFC well alone. That, at least, gives us a chance.
Agreed watching Andersen has been one of the few pleasures this season. After Liverpool I felt sure we would stay up. This makes the last few weeks even more of a disappointment
Quote from: SG on May 06, 2021, 12:00:19 PM
Agreed watching Andersen has been one of the few pleasures this season. After Liverpool I felt sure we would stay up. This makes the last few weeks even more of a disappointment
So did I, these last few weeks have been really disheartening after that great win at Liverpool. Really though we would kick on after that.
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 06, 2021, 02:57:48 AM
Quote from: We Are Premier League on May 05, 2021, 01:07:01 PM
Can we convince the Man U fans to protest enough for our game with them to be cancelled? They don't need to points to qualify for the CL so a 3 nil win for us can hope fully be arranged...
Oh dear, that sounds like clutching at straws that are just not there.
The Glazers would love, Burnley to go down as the less team in the traditional county of Lancashire the better for them in terms of local support and the more overcrowed London is with PL clubs, the better for them too. Thanks to the Glazers the ManUnited players are all on bonus' for winning the Europa, so players know their priorities.
Quote from: filham on May 06, 2021, 07:00:20 PM
Quote from: The Rational Fan on May 06, 2021, 02:57:48 AM
Quote from: We Are Premier League on May 05, 2021, 01:07:01 PM
Can we convince the Man U fans to protest enough for our game with them to be cancelled? They don't need to points to qualify for the CL so a 3 nil win for us can hope fully be arranged...
Oh dear, that sounds like clutching at straws that are just not there.
The Glazers would love, Burnley to go down as the less team in the traditional county of Lancashire the better for them in terms of local support and the more overcrowed London is with PL clubs, the better for them too. Thanks to the Glazers the ManUnited players are all on bonus' for winning the Europa, so players know their priorities.
yeah, i suspect they will field a strong team against us and rotate in the final game since the final is only a few days after that.
Quote from: Mickeyboro on May 06, 2021, 10:01:05 AM
Quote from: RaySmith on May 06, 2021, 04:38:33 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on May 05, 2021, 04:20:23 PM
Although the odds are stacked against us I wouldn't assume anything, even with a 2% chance of survival. Survival is possible and I certainly haven't seen a team that's given up.
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Scott won't allow the players to give up while there is still a chance , however slight.
I expect he will still want to win the games left, even if/when relegation is confirmed, and just playing for pride.
That's the problem. He seems not to want to lose games. Winning is a mentality...he doesn't have it.
Correct.
There's a massive difference between playing to win and playing not to lose.