Good game to throw him in for - if he is fit.
I think he will come on as a sub
He's been playing regularly. He's good to go. He has to start. It's a no brainer.
Unlikely. Silva doesn't usually play players until they've trained with the team for at least a week.
He'll have to get over the jet lag first. ::tongue::
No way, he must have some bedding in time and has to recover from that number 14 bus journey from one side of Fulham to the other.
If he does not start it will be like playing a seller at Plumpton as opposed to Constitution Hill.
History would say no. But unlike others in this bracket, I do t think we've ever been this desperate. With Vini likely off, we only have Muniz, so I'd expect Muniz to start and maybe Broja to make a cheeky sub appearance. I can't imagine what starting Broja does to Muniz confidence.
Got to start Muniz blew his chances against Newcastle and Everton
I would start him muniz has had a chance more than a chance in fact
Quote from: FFC1987 on February 02, 2024, 11:08:20 AMHistory would say no. But unlike others in this bracket, I do t think we've ever been this desperate. With Vini likely off, we only have Muniz, so I'd expect Muniz to start and maybe Broja to make a cheeky sub appearance. I can't imagine what starting Broja does to Muniz confidence.
totally agree..... start with muno to keep confidence alone.
Quote from: The Old Count on February 02, 2024, 11:02:04 AMUnlikely. Silva doesn't usually play players until they've trained with the team for at least a week.
True but he has to male an exception here . Broja is fit and the alternatives are few and far between. I'd rather take the risk of a striker not 'knowing all the calls' than others who do but have shown they can't find the net. (Plus he has to play 10 (is it). Why not start now. For all we know he and Jimenez playing the 10 role, might be a productive partnership
Broja is here because Muniz and Vinicius have failed spectacularly. Muniz hasn't scored a single Premier League goal and Fulham have failed to score in ten Premier League games this season and last weeks cup game against Newcastle. I'd rather see Vinicius than Muniz but hopefully Broja gets the nod from Silva from the start.
Quote from: JimOG on February 02, 2024, 01:10:34 PMQuote from: The Old Count on February 02, 2024, 11:02:04 AMUnlikely. Silva doesn't usually play players until they've trained with the team for at least a week.
True but he has to male an exception here . Broja is fit and the alternatives are few and far between. I'd rather take the risk of a striker not 'knowing all the calls' than others who do but have shown they can't find the net. (Plus he has to play 10 (is it). Why not start now. For all we know he and Jimenez playing the 10 role, might be a productive partnership
Are the stipulations he has to START 10 games or just play 10 games, would 10 sub appearances be enough?
I want to see Broja with us ASAP, but I feel Silva will still start Muniz. It'd be really good for us if Muniz bags a goal so that striker competition heats up.
Quote from: AshfordFFC on February 02, 2024, 12:37:38 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on February 02, 2024, 11:08:20 AMHistory would say no. But unlike others in this bracket, I do t think we've ever been this desperate. With Vini likely off, we only have Muniz, so I'd expect Muniz to start and maybe Broja to make a cheeky sub appearance. I can't imagine what starting Broja does to Muniz confidence.
totally agree..... start with muno to keep confidence alone.
What confidence, missed a sitter of a header which should have won the game Tuesday.
Play BROJA its a no brainer and he will be gagging for it and bursting at the seams to hurt Burnley.
Muniz is a pussy cat which is why the club brought Broja in i would have thought.
He probably hasn't had a training session with us before the Burnley game depending on when they travel. Silva is well known for not playing new signings. May be on the bench. Personally I would love him to start. But Silva really doesn't like playing new players who haven't bought in to the philosophy and passed the written test.
Considering the competition I would start him and mould him into our system. As a fall back we have Jiminez on the bench if he is struggling to adapt.
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 02, 2024, 01:39:10 PMHe probably hasn't had a training session with us before the Burnley game depending on when they travel. Silva is well known for not playing new signings. May be on the bench. Personally I would love him to start. But Silva really doesn't like playing new players who haven't bought in to the philosophy and passed the written test.
Funny, that seems something out of "The Managers Handbook". A player who is fit and active in his old club and desperately needed by another club, is instantly dropped after acquiring him.
I'd like him to start but I doubt he will. However I do think we will see him on as a sub and unless Muniz surprises us by have a MoM performance then I think Broja will start against B'mouth.
Quote from: AshfordFFC on February 02, 2024, 12:37:38 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on February 02, 2024, 11:08:20 AMHistory would say no. But unlike others in this bracket, I do t think we've ever been this desperate. With Vini likely off, we only have Muniz, so I'd expect Muniz to start and maybe Broja to make a cheeky sub appearance. I can't imagine what starting Broja does to Muniz confidence.
totally agree..... start with muno to keep confidence alone.
Nothing against Muniz - but he doesn't deserve to keep his place. If being dropped for a better player affects his confidence then he shouldn't be a professional footballer!
That said - it is unlikely Broja will start. However, I hope and expect he will play the second 45 mins.
Quote from: demeant0r on February 02, 2024, 01:17:15 PMQuote from: JimOG on February 02, 2024, 01:10:34 PMQuote from: The Old Count on February 02, 2024, 11:02:04 AMUnlikely. Silva doesn't usually play players until they've trained with the team for at least a week.
True but he has to male an exception here . Broja is fit and the alternatives are few and far between. I'd rather take the risk of a striker not 'knowing all the calls' than others who do but have shown they can't find the net. (Plus he has to play 10 (is it). Why not start now. For all we know he and Jimenez playing the 10 role, might be a productive partnership
Are the stipulations he has to START 10 games or just play 10 games, would 10 sub appearances be enough?
Surely it must be START 10 games, otherwise you could take the mickey and just bring him on in the 89th minute to honour the agreement?!
Quote from: The Old Count on February 02, 2024, 11:02:04 AMUnlikely. Silva doesn't usually play players until they've trained with the team for at least a week.
Agreed, however I think we are desperate for goals, it's just if Marco feels the same.
I'd like him to have the last 20 minutes on Saturday....can see Muniz starting
I'm almost certain he'll play, and think there's a decent chance he actually starts. I agree with those who've said that's not something Marco normally does but this seems to me like the rare scenario where Marco might make an exception. Raul is out and while Muniz tries hard, he just doesn't look like a PL quality player. Broja is fit, has been playing fairly regularly and obviously is familiar/comfortable with the Premier League. And finally he plays a position where I think it's a little easier to put someone out there who doesn't necessarily have a lot of familiarity with his teammates.
This Is interesting as he has already had a session with the team. Although looks a bit lost.
Quote from: Eton White on February 02, 2024, 02:31:45 PMQuote from: demeant0r on February 02, 2024, 01:17:15 PMQuote from: JimOG on February 02, 2024, 01:10:34 PMQuote from: The Old Count on February 02, 2024, 11:02:04 AMUnlikely. Silva doesn't usually play players until they've trained with the team for at least a week.
True but he has to male an exception here . Broja is fit and the alternatives are few and far between. I'd rather take the risk of a striker not 'knowing all the calls' than others who do but have shown they can't find the net. (Plus he has to play 10 (is it). Why not start now. For all we know he and Jimenez playing the 10 role, might be a productive partnership
Are the stipulations he has to START 10 games or just play 10 games, would 10 sub appearances be enough?
Surely it must be START 10 games, otherwise you could take the mickey and just bring him on in the 89th minute to honour the agreement?!
Then in that case, there's no reason why Marco shouldn't start him. If he does his usual thing of only starting a player a month or so after signing then 25% of those 16 games would also have been played. He has to start more than 50% of the matches which means it's a no-brainer that he starts at Turf Moor.
I wouldn't be surprised if he did start to be honest.
He's been playing regularly in that Chelsea side (only exception the other night where he stayed on the bench due to transfer).
So he's fit and ready to go, there's a clause to make sure we play him.
Vinicius to Galatasary, leaves us with Muniz in a much needed 3 pointer.
Don't think we lose anything by starting him tbh. Half ready Broja is better than Muniz.
As a centre forward he does need quite as much integration as say a centre back. If it's up to me I would start him, Marco however may use him as a sub. Also, who was that Spanish bloke with the big muscles in the video?
All this talk about Broja having to start is only looking from a purely financial perspective. If he doesn't start enough, we just pay a little more. Marco will play the team he think gives us the best chance. Much more important than whether or not we pay a little more to Chelsea.
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 02, 2024, 03:16:58 PMAll this talk about Broja having to start is only looking from a purely financial perspective. If he doesn't start enough, we just pay a little more. Marco will play the team he think gives us the best chance. Much more important than whether or not we pay a little more to Chelsea.
Actually it is looking at the alternatives to him not starting which is Muniz. Not sure the financial side comes into anybodies thinking at the moment.
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 02, 2024, 02:45:16 PMThis Is interesting as he has already had a session with the team. Although looks a bit lost.
You can see Willian trains to win
We have no choice but to start him,,,can always bring the dead beat on at anytime.
He only signed last night and now we see pictures of him training with us today when I would have thought the team would have been travelling to Burnley.
How long is Jimenez unavailable?
If it was up to me i would play him for the first 90 minutes plus.
Because the first 90 minutes plus are the most important.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 02, 2024, 04:55:14 PMIf it was up to me i would play him for the first 90 minutes plus.
Because the first 90 minutes plus are the most important.
Wash, rinse, repeat, repeat, repeat.......
HahahahaTeeheeheehee....
:slap:
Quote from: Nick Bateman on February 02, 2024, 01:40:45 PMConsidering the competition I would start him and mould him into our system. As a fall back we have Jiminez on the bench if he is struggling to adapt.
Do keep up Nick. Jiminez on the bench? With one fit leg?
Quote from: Lordedmundo on February 02, 2024, 02:21:53 PMQuote from: AshfordFFC on February 02, 2024, 12:37:38 PMQuote from: FFC1987 on February 02, 2024, 11:08:20 AMHistory would say no. But unlike others in this bracket, I do t think we've ever been this desperate. With Vini likely off, we only have Muniz, so I'd expect Muniz to start and maybe Broja to make a cheeky sub appearance. I can't imagine what starting Broja does to Muniz confidence.
totally agree..... start with muno to keep confidence alone.
Nothing against Muniz - but he doesn't deserve to keep his place. If being dropped for a better player affects his confidence then he shouldn't be a professional footballer!
That said - it is unlikely Broja will start. However, I hope and expect he will play the second 45 mins.
Maybe I did not exactley explain my meaning but it was to was keep Muniz confidence up inferring that if he did do nothing during the game and then be replaced by Broja who could score (hopefully) is the kick up the proverbial so to speak and let him review his own situation.
Quote from: filham on February 02, 2024, 04:20:48 PMHe only signed last night and now we see pictures of him training with us today when I would have thought the team would have been travelling to Burnley.
Always delay your arrival in Burnley for as long as possible.
Ideal is to change on the plane and parachute the team in 5 minutes before k.o.
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 02, 2024, 02:45:16 PMThis Is interesting as he has already had a session with the team. Although looks a bit lost.
The new Mitro?? Good find Lighthouse. I noticed a lot of players wearing pink boots!?! Probably influenced by the Barbie movie...
He looks like Rylan Clarke from This Morning.
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 02, 2024, 03:20:28 PMQuote from: Sting of the North on February 02, 2024, 03:16:58 PMAll this talk about Broja having to start is only looking from a purely financial perspective. If he doesn't start enough, we just pay a little more. Marco will play the team he think gives us the best chance. Much more important than whether or not we pay a little more to Chelsea.
Actually it is looking at the alternatives to him not starting which is Muniz. Not sure the financial side comes into anybodies thinking at the moment.
Well, if you read the thread and the posts before mine, you'll find that there are several posters suggesting that he should start because of the financial side, hence my post. So obviously some are indeed thinking it.
Quote from: Eton White on February 02, 2024, 02:31:45 PMQuote from: demeant0r on February 02, 2024, 01:17:15 PMQuote from: JimOG on February 02, 2024, 01:10:34 PMQuote from: The Old Count on February 02, 2024, 11:02:04 AMUnlikely. Silva doesn't usually play players until they've trained with the team for at least a week.
True but he has to male an exception here . Broja is fit and the alternatives are few and far between. I'd rather take the risk of a striker not 'knowing all the calls' than others who do but have shown they can't find the net. (Plus he has to play 10 (is it). Why not start now. For all we know he and Jimenez playing the 10 role, might be a productive partnership
Are the stipulations he has to START 10 games or just play 10 games, would 10 sub appearances be enough?
Surely it must be START 10 games, otherwise you could take the mickey and just bring him on in the 89th minute to honour the agreement?!
I believe its 10 starts AND X total minutes played.
Haven't seen any reference to the actual nr of minutes he needs to play, but I would guess it's something like 700.
He has to start as my granny isnt fit for Saturday as she died 40 years ago
No brainer
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 02, 2024, 02:45:16 PMThis Is interesting as he has already had a session with the team. Although looks a bit lost.
Imagine he could be a bit nervous on his first day with his new teammates - all probably wondering 'how good is he? what can he do? - is he the goal- scoring cf we've been needing?!'
Start Muniz. Give Broja 45-60 mins on the bench to watch how we play, throw him on at 60-70 mins unless Muniz has suddenly turned into the next Haaland. And it might just spur Muniz into action in which case keep him on until the last 10.
Quote from: demeant0r on February 02, 2024, 01:17:15 PMQuote from: JimOG on February 02, 2024, 01:10:34 PMQuote from: The Old Count on February 02, 2024, 11:02:04 AMUnlikely. Silva doesn't usually play players until they've trained with the team for at least a week.
True but he has to male an exception here . Broja is fit and the alternatives are few and far between. I'd rather take the risk of a striker not 'knowing all the calls' than others who do but have shown they can't find the net. (Plus he has to play 10 (is it). Why not start now. For all we know he and Jimenez playing the 10 role, might be a productive partnership
Are the stipulations he has to START 10 games or just play 10 games, would 10 sub appearances be enough?
I think it's start so he's got too be in plus Muniz hasn't warranted a start with his performances so far.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on February 02, 2024, 04:12:52 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on February 02, 2024, 02:45:16 PMThis Is interesting as he has already had a session with the team. Although looks a bit lost.
You can see Willian trains to win
And Tosin, did anyone spot him arguing with someone when he had to go in the circle?
If Fulham wish to give themselves the best chance of winning today.
For playing reasons and for no particular other reason he should start.
Unless of course some bright spark thinks he needs resting.
He has to start, can't be any worse than the other options.
I would start with this team:
Leno
Tete Tosin Ream Robinson
Cairney Palhinha
Willian Pereira Ballo-Toure
Broja
Will Traore be on the bench
Quite amused by the 'play Muniz so as not to dent his confidence' view. If he has any confidence at present he must be seriously deluded.
Having said that if he does play I hope he gets a hat-trick.
I can't see any alternative to Broja starting. Vini has gone, Muniz couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo and Raul is injured....Anyone know how long he is likely to be out for?
I have just read that he wasn't cleared in time to play.
Quote from: Steeeeeeeeeed on February 02, 2024, 05:56:22 PMHe looks like Rylan Clarke from This Morning.
That is true and maybe a passing resemblance to Mitro. It augurs well.
The i paper has him starting. I hope they're right.
Quote from: river phoenix on February 03, 2024, 11:21:48 AMI would start with this team:
Leno
Tete Tosin Ream Robinson
Cairney Palhinha
Willian Pereira Ballo-Toure
Broja
That's interesting - I've often thought both Castagne and Balo Toure have played in midfield yet Marco never uses them there
Quote from: hovewhite on February 03, 2024, 11:43:04 AMI have just read that he wasn't cleared in time to play.
Wouldn't that just be Fulhamish!!
Quote from: davew on February 03, 2024, 12:53:58 PMQuote from: hovewhite on February 03, 2024, 11:43:04 AMI have just read that he wasn't cleared in time to play.
Wouldn't that just be Fulhamish!!
I'm hoping it's not true.
Quote from: Lighthouse on February 02, 2024, 02:45:16 PMThis Is interesting as he has already had a session with the team. Although looks a bit lost.
that training routine needs changing. the players are stood for too long without the ball.
smaller groups is what is required.
signed
p guardiola
They probably won't play him in case he gets injured. 👀
Quote from: TC's Sporran on February 03, 2024, 01:00:11 PMQuote from: Lighthouse on February 02, 2024, 02:45:16 PMThis Is interesting as he has already had a session with the team. Although looks a bit lost.
that training routine needs changing. the players are stood for too long without the ball.
smaller groups is what is required.
signed
p guardiola
Have you seen the other training videos?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 03, 2024, 01:15:50 PMThey probably won't play him in case he gets injured. 👀
I hope that we will remember Ethan Roots who starts today In Italy.
I guess we shouldn't be surprised that Broja starts on the bench. Marco being Marco. If we look toothless in the first half, hopefully he'll throw him on to start the 2nd.
Quote from: Chi_FFC on February 03, 2024, 02:07:33 PMI guess we shouldn't be surprised that Broja starts on the bench. Marco being Marco. If we look toothless in the first half, hopefully he'll throw him on to start the 2nd.
..or after 20 mins if things aren't going well...
COYW
Good man management from Silva. Also repaid. Good job!