If he goes, I have a bad feeling it's likely, who would you want to replace him?
Personally I think Jol and McLaren are good managers but i'd still not be as confident with them in charge as I would with Hughes. If he does leave we should aim high and the name that would stand out for me would be Martin O'Neill- he is the only man available who I would have complete confidence in taking us forward (although his attitude on Europe would need to change).
If Hughes does go I hope the decision is made quickly because the last thing we want is another late managerial arrival.
Ancellotti :004:
LA LA LA Still not listening. :012:
Has he gone? I don't think so. He's still our manager, so I'll stick with him, thanks.
I really hope he stays but I can't see it. We should have tied him down months ago.
The big worry is he'll go to Villa and want to buy the likes of Hangeland and Bobby :|
I think it will be Hughes.
Jol or Eriksson.
Both in my opinion are much better managers than Hughes anyway, and were way higher up my list of preferred candidates before we appointed Hughes last summer.
I'm in the Hughes camp as well.
Quote from: FulhamMic on June 01, 2011, 01:23:46 PM
Jol or Eriksson.
Both in my opinion are much better managers than Hughes anyway, and were way higher up my list of preferred candidates before we appointed Hughes last summer.
Eriksson? 080.gif
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 01, 2011, 01:29:14 PM
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Sports a much better CV than Hughes, the most successful England manager of recent times and has shown with Notts County and Leicester he isn't just a mercenary out for money.
The England players rated him highly, as did the Man City fans (Save our Sven ring any bells?)
Sven's CV prior to getting the England job was superb but it's been diminishing returns ever since. Plus he allowed himself to become a figure of fun.
:025:
So who will replace Hughes?
I think Senderos could probably do the job, with Baird and Briggs as backup.
However, I would rather Aaron stays for another couple of seasons. 080.gif
Quote from: TonyGilroy on June 01, 2011, 01:35:48 PM
Sven's CV prior to getting the England job was superb but it's been diminishing returns ever since. Plus he allowed himself to become a figure of fun.
It's the British media that turned him into a figure of fun, not Sven, given the amount of money the FA had to pay him in severance. But they offered him the contract in the first place, and they were the ones looking to remove him from his position, so they have no one to blame but themselves.
Sven had a great record at Man City before the Thai owner started interfering, the results speak for themselves.
Quote from: FulhamMic on June 01, 2011, 01:40:26 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on June 01, 2011, 01:35:48 PM
Sven's CV prior to getting the England job was superb but it's been diminishing returns ever since. Plus he allowed himself to become a figure of fun.
It's the British media that turned him into a figure of fun, not Sven, given the amount of money the FA had to pay him in severance. But they offered him the contract in the first place, and they were the ones looking to remove him from his position, so they have no one to blame but themselves.
Sven had a great record at Man City before the Thai owner started interfering, the results speak for themselves.
+1
I am not Sven's biggest fan, but he became a media punchbag (as every England manager does) and subsequently people decided he was a joke.
In light of the other managers who have followed him, maybe he should get more respect than he does.
Quote from: TonyGilroy on June 01, 2011, 01:35:48 PM
Sven's CV prior to getting the England job was superb but it's been diminishing returns ever since. Plus he allowed himself to become a figure of fun.
I would fear for the safety of our lovely Sarah Brooks
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on June 01, 2011, 02:03:53 PM
Quote from: FulhamMic on June 01, 2011, 01:40:26 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on June 01, 2011, 01:35:48 PM
Sven's CV prior to getting the England job was superb but it's been diminishing returns ever since. Plus he allowed himself to become a figure of fun.
It's the British media that turned him into a figure of fun, not Sven, given the amount of money the FA had to pay him in severance. But they offered him the contract in the first place, and they were the ones looking to remove him from his position, so they have no one to blame but themselves.
Sven had a great record at Man City before the Thai owner started interfering, the results speak for themselves.
+1
I am not Sven's biggest fan, but he became a media punchbag (as every England manager does) and subsequently people decided he was a joke.
In light of the other managers who have followed him, maybe he should get more respect than he does.
+ 2 to AFC's commentary as well.
I think I would rather have O'Neill first, then Jol, then Sven. Jol however is probably a non-starter given last summer.
Quote from: aFFCn_Fan on June 01, 2011, 02:10:19 PM
Quote from: TonyGilroy on June 01, 2011, 01:35:48 PM
Sven's CV prior to getting the England job was superb but it's been diminishing returns ever since. Plus he allowed himself to become a figure of fun.
I would fear for the safety of our lovely Sarah Brooks
I'd fear for Sven :033: . The LOVELY Sarah Brookes??? . The very horrible and up herself Mrs Brookes from my personal experiance of her.
1st choice) Mark Hughes.
If he goes than Jol
Quote from: TonyGilroy on June 01, 2011, 01:35:48 PM
Sven's CV prior to getting the England job was superb but it's been diminishing returns ever since. Plus he allowed himself to become a figure of fun.
which, in and of itself, should make him simpatico with MAF.
Hughes not Sven. I want a manager who thinks with his brain, not his todger.
Quote from: FC Silver Fox on June 01, 2011, 07:07:13 PM
Hughes not Sven. I want a manager who thinks with his brain, not his todger.
Case in point of the British media's effect on his image.
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on June 01, 2011, 08:16:10 PM
Quote from: FC Silver Fox on June 01, 2011, 07:07:13 PM
Hughes not Sven. I want a manager who thinks with his brain, not his todger.
Case in point of the British media's effect on his image.
Ha! That Sven was rubbish, wasn't he, what with managing to get a poor England side to three consecutive quarter-finals.
Case in point #2.Who has the highest win percentage of any England manager?
Alf Ramsey? Bobby Robson?
NO!
C'est Monsieur Capello!
Quote from: ImperialWhite on June 01, 2011, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on June 01, 2011, 08:16:10 PM
Quote from: FC Silver Fox on June 01, 2011, 07:07:13 PM
Hughes not Sven. I want a manager who thinks with his brain, not his todger.
Case in point of the British media's effect on his image.
Ha! That Sven was rubbish, wasn't he, what with managing to get a poor England side to three consecutive quarter-finals.
Case in point #2.
Who has the highest win percentage of any England manager?
Alf Ramsey? Bobby Robson?
NO!
C'est Monsieur Capello!
That Sven "I can't keep my willy in my pants" Ericsson wasted the golden generation and got absolutely nothing to show for it.
I could have done better than that with those players.
Quote from: finnster01 on June 01, 2011, 08:30:59 PM
Quote from: ImperialWhite on June 01, 2011, 08:21:10 PM
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on June 01, 2011, 08:16:10 PM
Quote from: FC Silver Fox on June 01, 2011, 07:07:13 PM
Hughes not Sven. I want a manager who thinks with his brain, not his todger.
Case in point of the British media's effect on his image.
Ha! That Sven was rubbish, wasn't he, what with managing to get a poor England side to three consecutive quarter-finals.
Case in point #2.
Who has the highest win percentage of any England manager?
Alf Ramsey? Bobby Robson?
NO!
C'est Monsieur Capello!
That Sven "I can't keep my willy in my pants" Ericsson wasted the golden generation and got absolutely nothing to show for it.
I could have done better than that with those players.
He's won 17 titles, and has won the double three times. I reckon it's the "Golden Generation" who are at fault, not Sven.
(Interesting, isn't it, the "Golden Generation" has had three different managers and have won absolutely nothing yet it's always the fault of the manager, never the players.)
If that Swedish fart is so bloody brilliant, how come England, Man City, Notts County, Ivory Coast all fired the horny bugger?
He is useless. :046: and never Fulham material
Quote from: finnster01 on June 01, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
If that Swedish fart is so bloody brilliant, how come England, Man City, Notts County, Ivory Coast all fired the horny bugger?
He is useless. :046: and never Fulham material
Dont forget Mexico!
Good point. :clap_hands:
Quote from: finnster01 on June 01, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
If that Swedish fart is so bloody brilliant, how come England, Man City, Notts County, Ivory Coast all fired the horny bugger?
He is useless. :046: and never Fulham material
When successive managers fail to do anything with the SAME set of England players, it must be the managers fault, no?
Quote from: AlFayedsChequebook on June 01, 2011, 09:02:28 PM
Quote from: finnster01 on June 01, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
If that Swedish fart is so bloody brilliant, how come England, Man City, Notts County, Ivory Coast all fired the horny bugger?
He is useless. :046: and never Fulham material
When successive managers fail to do anything with the SAME set of England players, it must be the managers fault, no?
Especially when you include England, Mexico and the Ivory Coast
Martin Oneill is the only workable option I can see. He is straight, hard working and has never really failed anywhere. He would keep us top 10 and we certainly wouldn't go down with him at the helm.
Quote from: White Noise on June 01, 2011, 09:05:41 PM
Martin Oneill is the only workable option I can see. He is straight, hard working and has never really failed anywhere. He would keep us top 10 and we certainly wouldn't go down with him at the helm.
I would love O'Neill to manager of Fulham.
Yeah O'Neill is the one for me. Euro experience with Celtic, managed a similar sized club in Leicester and comes across as a loyal, decent and a highly intelligent individual.
I would even go as far as pushing up the financial offer for him in return for sacrificing a signing or two on the playing side. We'd be very stable with him and I'd be proud to have him as manager.
That said Hughes may not be leaving ..........
Quote from: White Noise on June 01, 2011, 09:05:41 PM
Martin Oneill is the only workable option I can see. He is straight, hard working and has never really failed anywhere. He would keep us top 10 and we certainly wouldn't go down with him at the helm.
O'neill would be a safe pair of hands, but, and perhaps I am being greedy, I would like to see a more exciting appointment.
I do wonder if the board ever just ring up quality out of work managers (Ancelotti) and offer them the job or just stick to more 'realistic' options.
I would love Van Gaal as well,
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Can we ever wait for the manager to leave before we speculate on who is going to replace him?
And hell if it wasn't for the Europa business I wouldn't even consider him leaving.......with it he just might...he just might.
All summer off basically and a big raise :011: :011: :011: :011:
Quote from: finnster01 on June 01, 2011, 08:46:52 PM
If that Swedish fart is so bloody brilliant, how come England, Man City, Notts County, Ivory Coast all fired the horny bugger?
He is useless. :046: and never Fulham material
Funny how people post who clearly have absolutely no grasp on reality (i.e the facts)!
Sven was sacked from the England job, but without due cause. He still remains the most successful England manager of recent times.
He walked away from the Man City on mutual consent after the Thai owner made it clear he wanted input in transfers and team selections. The players went on strike (remember the 8-1 loss away at Middlesbrough on the final day of the season, and the fans put on a demonstration march in the centre of Manchester).
He walked away from Notts County after it came to light that the club had been actually been bought by an international fraudster and who was using Sven's name to further his own criminal gain. When he left he also waived all rights to compensation his contract stipulated.
Ivory Coast was only ever a short term contract to see them through the World Cup. They approached him afterwards offering him the job full time but he turned it down as he wanted to return to club management.
Unfortunately it's always the usual suspects when we talk about a replacement. I'm only thankful that nobody has suggested Curbishly. Is there another Tigana out there?
No one, he isn't going anywhere. :54:
Can't see Sven doing a great job, he seems to buy a lot of flops nowadays, something we cant really afford on a budget. I've never really been a fan of O'Neill, no particular reason. Would love to give Steve McLaren a chance, he worked wonders with Boro, 2 FA Cup semis, a League Cup win, and a Europa Final. Toppled the PSV/Ajax dominance in Holland, even after selling the likes of Eljero Elia. Wolfsburg we wont talk about :011:, lets just say Diego is a greedy so and so who cant score from 12 yards no matter how many tries you give him.
All this is in vein anyway, cue Hughes coming out in a month saying he was stringing a rival along to scupper their pre-season preparations :dft012:
As I said, we should have tied him up months ago. I'm gutted, to make things worse is that he will surely be looking at taking the likes of Hangeland and Bobby with him.
I hope it's O'Neil who replaces him, the only replacement I'd be 100% confident in.
O'Neill financially screwed Leicester (not mentioning the fact that under him they played a game of hoofing it to Heskey, and/or scoring ridiculous amounts from set pieces) to which they are still recovering now, as well as soaring the salary bill of Aston Villa (granted there was some success but after this season and expected departures can they sustain it?). Not sure that would go down well with MAF
Strange what Houllier found at Villa after super O,Neill had left, players only training once or twice a week, Pires coming up from London by cab twice a week for training, players spending a lot of time on mobiles and like in the dressing room, Ireland who had been there weeks not even any where match fit, he tried to instill some basic discipline and failed, how did O'Neill let that happen in the first place ?
would someone like chris hughton be too much of a risk?
Quote from: epsomraver on June 02, 2011, 01:02:33 PM
Strange what Houllier found at Villa after super O,Neill had left, players only training once or twice a week, Pires coming up from London by cab twice a week for training, players spending a lot of time on mobiles and like in the dressing room, Ireland who had been there weeks not even any where match fit, he tried to instill some basic discipline and failed, how did O'Neill let that happen in the first place ?
Houllier signed Pires so that was his fault.
Quote from: MrWhite on June 02, 2011, 01:04:33 PM
would someone like chris hughton be too much of a risk?
I believe Newcatle would have gone down if they kept Hughton.
Hughes will go,either today or at the end of his next contract,as will whoever we bring in,not sure what the big deal is,Sparky isn't loved here,not really :001:
1) Ancellotti
2) O'Neil
3) Sven-bit of a risk
4) left field choice-Dave Jones ex Cardiff
in that order please,and I want someone in by Wednesday next week :clap_hands:
If Hughes does leave, then unless we can get Martin O'Neill I would like to see someone like Lee Clark at the helm.
MON should be nowhere near this club. He's perfectly summed up by this Leicester City fan :
His methods were just Clough's methods, as he obviously played under him. When you hear players interviewed who played under him etc. it's all exactly the same things that Clough did, to a t. He manages as if it's still 1982.
He's a fantastic man manager, but his tactical knowledge is very poor. Matt Elliott once said his tactical advice before the game was always something along the lines of "stop the big man and you'll stop them scoring."
Senderos, I guess, although Baird could certainly pull a shift there. Maybe Halliche if he's fit.
Quote from: HatterDon on June 02, 2011, 04:15:10 PM
Senderos, I guess, although Baird could certainly pull a shift there. Maybe Halliche if he's fit.
:005: Should always read previous posts :011:
Quote from: FC Silver Fox on June 01, 2011, 01:38:02 PM
So who will replace Hughes?
I think Senderos could probably do the job, with Baird and Briggs as backup.
However, I would rather Aaron stays for another couple of seasons. 080.gif
Hughes will stay.
Keep the faith.
Quote from: FFCcravencottage on June 02, 2011, 04:19:41 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on June 02, 2011, 04:15:10 PM
Senderos, I guess, although Baird could certainly pull a shift there. Maybe Halliche if he's fit.
:005: Should always read previous posts :011:
Quote from: FC Silver Fox on June 01, 2011, 01:38:02 PM
So who will replace Hughes?
I think Senderos could probably do the job, with Baird and Briggs as backup.
However, I would rather Aaron stays for another couple of seasons. 080.gif
I shoulda known the Froggie would have gotten there first. 085.gif
well it's real now,Sparky has buggered off and left us in the lurch 099.gif 096.gig,the only good thing is their is no chance of us getting Big Sam 096.gig
The default choice appears to be O'Neil but he doesn't fill me with enthusiasm. Ancelotti anyone?
Quote from: Willard on June 02, 2011, 06:16:09 PM
The default choice appears to be O'Neil but he doesn't fill me with enthusiasm. Ancelotti anyone?
I think we would all welcome Ancelotti with open arms,thing is will he come?
Quote from: Rambling_Syd_Rumpo on June 02, 2011, 06:18:26 PM
Quote from: Willard on June 02, 2011, 06:16:09 PM
The default choice appears to be O'Neil but he doesn't fill me with enthusiasm. Ancelotti anyone?
I think we would all welcome Ancelotti with open arms,thing is will he come?
Would take him in a second, but his last 3 managerial jobs were Juve, Milan, and the Scum. Highly doubt he would take a huge pay cut and limited funds (comparably speaking) to those clubs, unless he is dead set on staying in England.
The big bear or Benitez for me
Quote from: Rambling_Syd_Rumpo on June 02, 2011, 06:18:26 PM
Quote from: Willard on June 02, 2011, 06:16:09 PM
The default choice appears to be O'Neil but he doesn't fill me with enthusiasm. Ancelotti anyone?
I think we would all welcome Ancelotti with open arms,thing is will he come?
He wouldn't have to move and wants to stay in the Prem.
Omar Hitzfield please.. Failing that I have alway been a fan Of Nigel Pearson and Sean O'Driscoll
Although there would be Laredo question marks over their ability to manage a premier league squad.
Walter Smith or John Collins anyone?
