This is not meant as a dig at our American fan at all but merely a question.
Now that we no longer have any American players in our squad having seen the last in Mr Dempsey move on to pastures new, have some of our American fans also moved on? Over recent years we had Keller, Bocanegra, Dempsey and McBride all at the club so plenty of attraction for the American fans, now that they have all left have those fans left too? Or did they see enough of Fulham in the time they played for the club to continue supporting us?
I'll stay if Mikey stays.
I'm worrying about what happens if Sidwell leaves. He IS the only English player in the squad, isn't he?
Or Hatter Don stays as well. Very few left aren't there. Stockdale, Briggsy, a few of the under 21's. Hughes, Baird and Simon Davies both speak English as a first language though.
Quote from: HatterDon on September 17, 2012, 02:08:02 PM
I'm worrying about what happens if Sidwell leaves. He IS the only English player in the squad, isn't he?
it is a perfectly reasonable question to ask, What started with Mc Bride and ended with "Him" may have brought in and then out for USA fans.
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What about Kieran Richardson, He's from Greenwich
Well, my Sidwell joke aside, there are a lot of posters/fans who were here only for the American connection, just as we gained a lot of support when we signed our disappered Algerian. Some will go, I'm sure, just as many probably went away when Best and Marsh departed. There is, however, a hard core of American Fulham who will not leave. I'm one of them. FulhamUSA.com is still ticking over nicely and, from what I've read, MOST of the concern over there about this past transfer season is the loss of Dembele.
So, yes, you will probably lose some Americans, but we'll be gaining [and have already gained] some new Bulgarians. Perhaps some Colombians will start following us as well.
Fulham is a multi-national team with a multi-national squad. We're owned by an Egyptian, operated by a Scot, and managed by a Dutchman. We have players from all over the world and our support reflects that. I just wished that we celebrated that more rather than moaning about "the tourists" who come to the matches.
But maybe that's just me.
It wasn't meant as a question to offend anyone, just seemed like a logical question to ask as our American fanbase certainly increased during the period we had American players, so I was merely wondering if now those players have left if those American fans would still remain.
I know some of our American fans are very passionate and just because they may have only started following us when some of the American players joined doesn't mean they are any less a fan or in many cases any less knowledgable than the rest of us.
I wasn't by any means moaning about "tourists" or anything along those lines just merely seeking to find out if we had lost a section of our following since the loss of Dempsey. But agree we will have certainly gained a Bulgarian following with the signing of Berba.
Quote from: HatterDon on September 17, 2012, 02:23:33 PM
Well, my Sidwell joke aside, there are a lot of posters/fans who were here only for the American connection, just as we gained a lot of support when we signed our disappered Algerian. Some will go, I'm sure, just as many probably went away when Best and Marsh departed. There is, however, a hard core of American Fulham who will not leave. I'm one of them. FulhamUSA.com is still ticking over nicely and, from what I've read, MOST of the concern over there about this past transfer season is the loss of Dembele.
So, yes, you will probably lose some Americans, but we'll be gaining [and have already gained] some new Bulgarians. Perhaps some Colombians will start following us as well.
Fulham is a multi-national team with a multi-national squad. We're owned by an Egyptian, operated by a Scot, and managed by a Dutchman. We have players from all over the world and our support reflects that. I just wished that we celebrated that more rather than moaning about "the tourists" who come to the matches.
But maybe that's just me.
I've met some interesting and friendly 'tourists' sat in P1 & P2. Also met some great away fans as well
There is, however, a hard core of American Fulham who will not leave. I'm one of them.
Darn it, we live in hope! 086.gif 086.gif
As Steve_orino pointed out previously, Emerson Hyndman is in the Academy still! starsnstripes
But as shown by the jokes, most of us are here for Fulham. While I like the idea of an American playing, and started following Fulham because of McBride, I am here for the club.
It is pretty obvious that many of us "foreigners" get to know the club because of our countrymen, the thing as that we got sticked to it because of the many other positive things arounf the club, FOF is one of them of course.
I am not sure, but it seems like there are a fair amount of Americans living in the Fulham area; just around the area, I usually hear a lot of American accents, not necessarily on match day unless they're are all on vacation which I find doubtful; once the Fulham bug gets under you're skin its hard to get rid of it.
I thought they all fled once Eddie Johnson left?
Quote from: King_Crud on September 17, 2012, 02:49:57 PM
I thought they all fled once Eddie Johnson left?
I tried to get out on the same flight as EJ, but it seems all you Brits bought him a ticket to ensure he made the flight. I was left with no escape. So now you're stuck with me. starsnstripes
Jokes aside, I came to support McBride and I stayed because I support Fulham. I'm getting to be a bit like Don I think(don't know if we have the same reasons) in that I hope we don't have an American for a while.....until Emerson's debut would be fine.
Exactly Mr. SCFulhmFan...we get a 6 year reprieve from this & similar threads from the past summer. But if Hyndman makes the First XI, he'll have been in England for a while & they'll want to claim him as their own. :dft012:
As I stated in a previous post:
I've been a "Follower" for 4 1/2 years...will only consider myself a "Supporter" once I've reached 5 years of dodgy stream-watching, a gazillion viruses on my laptop, & a multitude of coffee stains on my Fulham shirt from cheering their goals!
Also, see my sig.
I'm still here...or still a fan anyway. Not sure I have ever posted here or not. I am a transplant from the FulhamFC board.
This thread is flawed. Firstly, our first American Player was not Brian McBride, it was Eddie Lewis. Secondly, we still have an American born player in the first team, a certain Mr Hangerland.
I don't think Lewis brought any fans to us Mr P.
Quote from: King_Crud on September 17, 2012, 02:49:57 PM
I thought they all fled once Eddie Johnson left?
Quote from: David_Keating on September 17, 2012, 02:49:24 PM
I am not sure, but it seems like there are a fair amount of Americans living in the Fulham area; just around the area, I usually hear a lot of American accents, not necessarily on match day unless they're are all on vacation which I find doubtful;once the Fulham bug gets under you're skin its hard to get rid of it.
I know. I really hate that.
You cant really boot us out till the houston born Hangeland leaves! Joking aside I was supporting Fulham before Dempsey and i will certainly continue to support Fulham until my dying breath. When Dempsey left it was a bit surreal, not because he was an American leaving but because our longest serving player has left. My kits do not have his name on the back, instead the likes of Duff, Murphy, Davies and soon to be Hangeland. My friends know me as that "weird guy who likes the other sport" It is well known that I support Fulham, I even wore a kit in the tournement we had when a 7 a side at the camp i was stationed on overseas much to the shock of Chelsea, Barca and Real clad players.
COYW is about as much as an Amen as you can get from me.
Side note, its become my hobby to pop over to a Spurs board to see the shift of only Dempsey fans.
I have refused to post this summer, hoping to force my transfer to a Champions League blog, although I would consider a move to the Spurs blog for the right price (I cannot bring myself to say I would consider a transfer to the Liverpool page even in jest).
Yet another will they wont they thread. Two Englishman in the squad and yet I remain loyal. But will THEY go.
Well some American fans have but many haven't because they are Fulham fans. In the same way that some Brits like that funny American football and don't care who is playing.
I think the days of supporting a club because of nationality are going fast.
Quote from: epsomraver on September 17, 2012, 02:35:41 PM
Darn it, we live in hope! 086.gif 086.gif
Just like Bill Clinton.
Quote from: epsomraver on September 17, 2012, 02:35:41 PM
There is, however, a hard core of American Fulham who will not leave. I'm one of them.
Darn it, we live in hope! 086.gif 086.gif
HAHA! I'm not leaving. yee-haw!
cant get rid of me. still would like Michael Bradley to come play for Fulham.
Quote from: Andy_M on September 17, 2012, 02:27:47 PM
It wasn't meant as a question to offend anyone, just seemed like a logical question to ask as our American fanbase certainly increased during the period we had American players, so I was merely wondering if now those players have left if those American fans would still remain.
I know some of our American fans are very passionate and just because they may have only started following us when some of the American players joined doesn't mean they are any less a fan or in many cases any less knowledgable than the rest of us.
I wasn't by any means moaning about "tourists" or anything along those lines just merely seeking to find out if we had lost a section of our following since the loss of Dempsey. But agree we will have certainly gained a Bulgarian following with the signing of Berba.
Andy_M, it's a fair question and one that has come up before. Those that only came for our ex-Fulham American players are probably gone already and those of us who support the team will remain. I support the shirt, badge and the club, not necessarily any one players. Players come and go. Our American support remains strong, so Yanks will still love the club.
Just out of interest have we lost Dembele fans?
Do we still have any Hungarians about? Don't mess with the Zoltan!
Quote from: horse1031 on September 17, 2012, 04:59:20 PM
cant get rid of me. still would like Michael Bradley to come play for Fulham.
I can't see that happening any time soon. He's right where he's always aspired to be.....Italy.
Quote from: LordNelson on September 17, 2012, 05:44:39 PM
Do we still have any Hungarians about? Don't mess with the Zoltan!
Judging by the club shop we have a lot of new Bulgarian fans
Late to the party on this one, as usual. However, I've never supported teams based on players. I will certainly pull for all Americans to do well overseas and won't mind seeing their clubs win as long as it's no harm to Fulham. But I'm certainly not gonna leave before I even get to go to my first match, which is hopefully this season. I do understand the question though. Also, for the most part, it's always seemed that the "local" fans have welcomed and enjoyed having most of the American fans. Hopefully they will continue to do so and maybe even more since there's not that bond holding all of us to the club.
Quote from: Andy_M on September 17, 2012, 02:27:47 PM
It wasn't meant as a question to offend anyone, just seemed like a logical question to ask as our American fanbase certainly increased during the period we had American players, so I was merely wondering if now those players have left if those American fans would still remain.
I know some of our American fans are very passionate and just because they may have only started following us when some of the American players joined doesn't mean they are any less a fan or in many cases any less knowledgable than the rest of us.
I wasn't by any means moaning about "tourists" or anything along those lines just merely seeking to find out if we had lost a section of our following since the loss of Dempsey. But agree we will have certainly gained a Bulgarian following with the signing of Berba.
I certainly wasn't calling you out on this, Andy M. There was nothing that you posted that was even remotely offensive. The "tourist" comments are those I've seen most weeks during the season when it comes to why support at the Cottage isn't so vocal. It's always amazed me that there are those that are upset that enough "tourists" come to the Cottage to fill it up.
This is a good question on your part, and the diversity of comments have shown that. Well done, sir.
No, I won't leave and never would. Sure, I won't post as often or at all on this forum but I support Fulham through and through and will always find a way to watch the match. I will even be going to a match this year.
I'm still here......for the good, the bad, and all things Fulhamish.
Was here before McGod and I am here for the long haul.
I have Fulham in my blood. COYW!! :scarf:
Yeah I'm still here, I read a lot, almost never post. It's harder to explain why I like Fulham these days, but I still do. Dempsey didn't make that big a difference after all...
That being said... I kind of hope Fulham signs another American at some point. Not for any practical purpose. Just for me.
Quote from: Peabody on September 17, 2012, 03:09:17 PM
This thread is flawed. Firstly, our first American Player was not Brian McBride, it was Eddie Lewis. Secondly, we still have an American born player in the first team, a certain Mr Hangerland.
Eddie Lewis brought me to Fulham... so thanks for pointing this out to everyone!!
I unlike Hatter hope we get an American in the team some time in the near future... There are plenty with talent and will cost half what a mainland European player will. You just have to give them a year to settle into the style of play..
I would have taken Michael Bradley in a heartbeat when Villa moronically let him leave but now at Roma and starting (when fit) it seems we missed out on him...
I believe there are a fair amount of Yanks who'll hang around. I came with McBride and was impressed how the locals took him to their heart. I don't think they ever did so with the one we shall not name or even Boca. Respect perhaps but not in the positive way Brian was held. I would ask though, why that question isn't directed towards the fans from Norway or Ireland or Korea or Finland, only Americans. that is likely why the one who shall not be named was defended & attacked so strongly. Could be because among the foreign fans the Americans have the largest contingent. I'm sure the language has something to do with it, That, and we don't have quality football at home unless Abby Wambaug is suited up. Anyway, Fulham for the long haul. COYW.
Quote from: YankeeJim on September 17, 2012, 09:39:33 PM
I believe there are a fair amount of Yanks who'll hang around. I came with McBride and was impressed how the locals took him to their heart. I don't think they ever did so with the one we shall not name or even Boca. Respect perhaps but not in the positive way Brian was held. I would ask though, why that question isn't directed towards the fans from Norway or Ireland or Korea or Finland, only Americans. that is likely why the one who shall not be named was defended & attacked so strongly. Could be because among the foreign fans the Americans have the largest contingent. I'm sure the language has something to do with it, That, and we don't have quality football at home unless Abby Wambaug is suited up. Anyway, Fulham for the long haul. COYW.
Don't freeken start on the irish !!!
I'm just here for the chicks
Dembele goes...where the beltin' gherkins has Sipwell gone?@?!?!?!?!?
Nogood "bring 'im back, isit" Boyo
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on September 17, 2012, 10:21:05 PM
Dembele goes...where the beltin' gherkins has Sipwell gone?@?!?!?!?!?
Nogood "bring 'im back, isit" Boyo
I had noticed that myself Mr No Good. I might PM him to see if he is OK
Quote from: Berserker on September 17, 2012, 10:24:01 PM
Quote from: NogoodBoyo on September 17, 2012, 10:21:05 PM
Dembele goes...where the beltin' gherkins has Sipwell gone?@?!?!?!?!?
Nogood "bring 'im back, isit" Boyo
I had noticed that myself Mr No Good. I might PM him to see if he is OK
He may actually have a job! 064.gif Someone should ask Mr. :airfix: where he is.
Glad you guys are still around - We have been well served by Mcbride and Demps and personally I always liked Boca as a 100% trier - a bit like the German Volzy -
Have met plenty of quirky Americans who like to buck the normal trend of Champions only - so lets hope you guys can find us another USA player to grace CC.
I Don't blame Demps for getting his head turned but have a feeling that neither him or Dembele will find the same warmth of Spirit at Tottenham. A bit like when Steed and Sean Davies went there. or Roy and Konch went to Liverpool.
Dempsey brought me to Fulham. But like most Americans here, FFC is my football club now, Dempsey or no Dempsey. I think most of us seem to follow "Americans", because those are the players we are most familiar with. We follow them as U17's on up, watch them often as young players in MLS and see them transferred across the globe. I see players like Brek Shea and Geoff Cameron and wish Fulham would sign them not because they are American, but because I see them adding to the squad (for comparatively cheap when you think about European signings).
My only fear is seeing FFC relegated, not because I wouldn't still follow them, but because I think I would go mad with no opportunity to watch the squad on the television.
Might start losing more if we keep getting questioned about it, I think this is about the 3rd thread of this sort. Getting a bit old.
Being said I started following because of Clint and McGod; but after experiencing the magic of the Cottage and an away win in Bolton I'm here for good.
My goal in life is the same as all American's and that is to invent or sell so much of something useless that I can afford to buy my own Premier League team and stuff it full of Americans. Until then however you are stuck with me as a Fulham fan.
Instead of an American player how about an American owner? We could have cheer leaders dancing during halftimes and in lulls. We could drop the pies ands serve nachos and hotdogs and dump that Fullers ESB for some good Budwieser. We could have double headers; the Mighty Whites and then the Galaxy and Seattle. That would bring EJ back to the Cottage. Wouldn't that be grand! 086.gif
Quote from: YankeeJim on September 18, 2012, 12:18:02 AM
Instead of an American player how about an American owner? We could have cheer leaders dancing during halftimes and in lulls. We could drop the pies ands serve nachos and hotdogs and dump that Fullers ESB for some good Budwieser. We could have double headers; the Mighty Whites and then the Galaxy and Seattle. That would bring EJ back to the Cottage. Wouldn't that be grand! 086.gif
Hilarious YJ!!! 064.gif
I'll admit it, I hadn't heard of FFC until Dempsey transferred (I was a Revolution season ticket holder 2 of the 3 or do years he was in the MLS, and was my favorite).
Now I'm ticked because it has been over two weeks since my wife ordered my Kacaniklic away jersey for my birthday, and it hasn't even shipped.
I blame it all on surreptitiously watching Shaktar Donetsk away while at work on a dodgy feed :)
I was introduced to Fulham because of McBride and Dempsey, but became a fan because of the history and that they're a well run smaller club that usually punch above their weight--I was turned off by all of the front-running American fans of the big clubs. I don't see the joy in rooting for a team that is expected to win everything every season.
I will always be a Fulham fan. I'd love for them to sign American players in the future, not out of nationalistic pride, but for the simple fact that the club has a great track record of getting great value from American players. Fulham paid a transfer fee of around 3 million for McBride, Dempsey, Keller, and Boca COMBINED.
Quote from: The Rock on September 17, 2012, 02:11:04 PM
Or Hatter Don stays as well. Very few left aren't there. Stockdale, Briggsy, a few of the under 21's. Hughes, Baird and Simon Davies both speak English as a first language though.
The mighty Schwarz speaks a bastardised form of English, known as Strine, as his first language. But I'm off as soon as he hangs up his gloves. (You wish ! ) oztralian 000en.gif
Sounds like the good one's will stick around...don't spot many Japanese post Inamoto-but they are close enough to Manchester to seamlessly transfer allegiance due whatever his name is.
What? Am I still here? Damn, I should've been over to the Spurs / Everton / Villa website hours ago.
Irony! As I left that last post, my shirt was waiting in the mail box. Only saw it this morning because we went to dinner with the in-laws, and came in the back entrance last night.
Man, it looks great. Proudly Wearing it to work today!
Quote from: NewYorkYank on September 17, 2012, 03:44:23 PM
I have refused to post this summer, hoping to force my transfer to a Champions League blog, although I would consider a move to the Spurs blog for the right price (I cannot bring myself to say I would consider a transfer to the Liverpool page even in jest).
Hahaha like it starsnstripes
Quote from: epsomraver on September 17, 2012, 03:13:16 PM
I don't think Lewis brought any fans to us Mr P.
I swear his mum tuned in for at least one match.
Quote from: epsomraver on September 17, 2012, 03:13:16 PM
I don't think Lewis brought any fans to us Mr P.
I suppose you don't consider me a fan? My mate played for UCLA in the 90s when Lewis was there. I followed him over to Fulham (where he really never played).
Digital cable brought me to FFC, indirectly. Started watching Prem League on FoxSoccer, deployed the Internet to learn more about various teams, couldn't stomach the "big" clubs with super-rich owners determined to buy trophies. Watching McB on tv got my attention; still can't forget that terrible injury he suffered.
The clincher was a trip to London in Sept 2007, got tix online for Chelsea v Blackburn and Fulham v Man City (the old one). Fell in love with the Cottage as a venue that reminded me of old Tiger Stadium in Detroit, where I learned to hate the Yankees. (Can't imagine anyone falling in love with Stamford Bridge, no matter who played there.)
The fact that McB, Keller, Boca and Demps all wore white attracted me; I think many fans follow national team players who go abroad, just because we know who they are. But since it was the Cottage environment that sealed the deal, I expect to follow FFC as long as it's their home pitch.
And I'm delighted that my fears about where goals would come from after departures of Dembele and he who shall not be named are proving unfounded. Don't know that I'll ever get to London again, but it's gotten much easier to watch your club remotely, and I'm grateful. COYW.
Full disclosure... I love Fulham... and I hate to admit it I still care to see Dempsey do well. starsnstripes it isn't every day we (americans) get a talented field player with his drive and desire.
I will go to their website to see how he has done but I won't go chat cheatin on my Fulham family. :dft012:
Quote from: McBridefan1 on September 19, 2012, 07:06:19 PM
Full disclosure... I love Fulham... and I hate to admit it I still care to see Dempsey do well. starsnstripes it isn't every day we (americans) get a talented field player with his drive and desire.
Well said. I have to say, sometimes we can be quite small minded about players who leave us.
I started rooting for Fulham in 2004-05 because of Bocanegra and McBride, but I am wholeheartedly behind the club, Americans or no Americans. I hope Clint (and Mousa) does well at Spurs and I hope we make good use of the money we got for them. Onward and upward.
Oh, yeah, I'm new here, first post, etc. etc.
I'm relying on Joronen and LDV to break through, otherwise I'll have to start supporting some other club.
I'm still here. I started supporting Fulham from the early days of bocanegra and mcbride. I do follow other teams who have american players and do root for those players (not necessarily their respective clubs) to do well.
I think what you are seeing here is some good positive effect of what the american players have brought to Fulham. Whether liked or not, we're here to stay but not sure for how long. Some may stay for a bit, some may stay forever. I find it difficult to detach myself from a club I've supported passionately for these recent years despite the club no longer sporting american players.
I love Fulham because it was the first football game I ever went to, 9 or 10 years ago. Against Palace at the Loftadrome, I believe. Growing up on baseball, I'd never had more fun at a sporting event in my life, and never stopped watching online and going to games whenever I'm in London (which, sadly, hasn't been for a year and a half.)
I was sad to see Dempsey go, sure, but not going to change a thing, at the end of the day. I was devastated for what he had done for the team over the years; I don't think his being American factored into it all that much. Was more gutted when Hodgson left, honestly.
I still wake up every Saturday to watch the game, singing along by myself; it still sets my mood for the week. (And I have to say, living in California for a bit without internet and having to go to my office every Saturday at 7 am to watch the games on a dodgy stream was hell - but I was there.)
I do find some of the anti-American attitudes silly at times. I remember almost getting into a fight on the train back from Wigan a couple years ago; some guy found out I was American and decided he want to beat the daylights out of me. And, you know, I was drunk, so it almost happened. (Which would have resulted in a very poor outcome for me, I'm sure.) At the time, I was just thinking, come ON, how many Fulham fans living in London make it to three away games in a season? And I came all the way from New York! And went WIGAN, of all places!
But singing along in the stands it never seems to matter, and no one seems to care. I've never had more fun in my life, and won't be giving it up any time soon.
Anyways. Back to lurking . . .
Much to Finny's disgust, given his loyalty to the Yankees, when I was in NYC last year I took the family to see the Mets. Ever since then I keep an eye out for how they are doing.
I know it's not a "blighty fans" thread relating to baseball, but I thought I would throw it in there if only to show that even if you sample something once, a little bit of loyalty gets planted.
Quote from: Burt on September 20, 2012, 06:59:43 AM
Much to Finny's disgust, given his loyalty to the Yankees, when I was in NYC last year I took the family to see the Mets. Ever since then I keep an eye out for how they are doing.
I know it's not a "blighty fans" thread relating to baseball, but I thought I would throw it in there if only to show that even if you sample something once, a little bit of loyalty gets planted.
True that burttie...
I am still Fulham, will always be Fulham, but being completely honest, I don't look forward to the Fulham matches nearly as much as I did when Dempsey was with us. It's not a choice I made, it has just happened. Most American posters probably feel similar to me, but maybe don't feel comfortable disclosing. I won't start following a different club, but I am being completely honest in saying that since Dempsey left it's just not quite the same. I'm still stupid crazy about Fulham, but before I was retarded crazy about the club.
