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Title: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: FFCfan on December 11, 2012, 07:05:18 AM
We played very aggressive (most of the time) and attractive football last night! Usually a winning side should not be changed. Since the games against WBA, Sunderland, Arsenal we were able to replicate the same attacking football which we couldn't lately. I think we should keep the squad as it is, maybe with some minor changes. QPR defense is the worst in EPL. If we play the same way and create so many chances we should be able to send them to championship sooner than expected!
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: spikey norman on December 11, 2012, 08:08:42 AM
yes i would keep same starting 11 for qpr - baird and duff should always start for me as we have had our best results when they have done so
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: grandad on December 11, 2012, 08:14:50 AM
The only player I feel had a poor game was Kaca. I don´t know if Frei would be worth a shot. We do have a few options for this position. If we can replicate the fight & passion from last night I see no reason why the rest of the starters should not start again.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: RaySmith on December 11, 2012, 08:14:58 AM
I hope you're right. Last night's win was very important. It was a great team performance and we deserved to win, but Newcastle could have edged it if one of their chances had gone in.

So we go to QPR with a bit of much needed confidence - but I think this will be a very tough game, a dogfight - but I hope we can show the  class and organisation and spirit of last night, with good support behind us - and get three points...or even one would be a good result I suppose.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: FFCfan on December 11, 2012, 08:20:28 AM
Quote from: grandad on December 11, 2012, 08:14:50 AM
The only player I feel had a poor game was Kaca. I don´t know if Frei would be worth a shot. We do have a few options for this position. If we can replicate the fight & passion from last night I see no reason why the rest of the starters should not start again.

Agreed! Kaca was not on his level, maybe due to his recent injury, but still think he should start. He knows he should have done better, and he will do better next game.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: RaySmith on December 11, 2012, 08:22:33 AM
Sorry, I didn't answer the question - yes, I think Jol will start pretty well the same 11 as last night, though maybe leave out Kaca.

Agree about Baird and Duff - they have been such important players for us this season. Once again Duff was involved in us scoring.

Jol might make one or two changes to combat the particular threat of QPR - they are strong in midfield, or to capitalise o their defensive frailties.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: MJG on December 11, 2012, 08:54:15 AM
I think it should be the same XI but I suspect because QPR's pitch is small and Kaca was below par, he might go for Richardson on the left to make us a bit tighter as a unit in the middle.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: Northern Cottager on December 11, 2012, 09:32:45 AM
Their defence is woeful. Watching the extended highlights they look like a Non league side who've managed to scrape a decent 1st round Cup Tie. Hopefully we should bag a few as I can see them making even more mistakes than Newcastle did. Just hope Dejegah learns how to tackle in training :D
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: the nutflush on December 11, 2012, 10:21:49 AM
Baird's distribution was a treat to watch.  Some of the stuff he does goes mainly unnoticed but if I was in charge he would be the first picked every week.  Both he and Sidders were great last night.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: JackyFulham90 on December 11, 2012, 12:32:23 PM
I think Diarra will be brought back in and maybe Richardson for Kacaniklic the rest of the team will remain the same and rightly so
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: Ordar on December 11, 2012, 12:38:06 PM
I definitely wouldnt start Kaca. Duff looks pretty set on the right, so would have Richardson down the left. And no, Richardson isnt nearly as bad as people on here would have you believe!

I fully expect Sidwell to dominate the midfield, we just need to take the opportunities when they come. I have a sneaky suspicion that Rodallega will go on a scoring run, so I predict a brace from Dave
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: nose on December 11, 2012, 12:44:18 PM
Same 11! No brainer. Best we played for ages. Newcastle have good players and looked at times but with a little bit better finishing we could and should have won by three or four. Kaka not at his best but needs a chance. Hugo's bestgame by a mile, about time and very welcome to see what he is capable of.
Dejgah isn't as good as Kaka defensively so he is a worry if he starts. Otherwise that was far more like it, I am sure berba will score again soon, he looked far better when not being asked to take the captain's arm band.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: MasterHaynes on December 11, 2012, 01:19:49 PM
I would just swap Kaca for Karagounis to bolster the middle of the park. I think QPR will be physical and flood the midfield against us. Having both Karagounis and Sidwell breaking forward from the middle with Baird sweeping up behnd them would be a good tactic in this game.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: Mr Fulham on December 11, 2012, 01:24:09 PM
Wouldn't exactly call last night's foorball "attractive"....by no means. It was a dirty win, it was all about the three points.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: AlFayedsChequebook on December 11, 2012, 01:27:35 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on December 11, 2012, 01:24:09 PM
Wouldn't exactly call last night's foorball "attractive"....by no means. It was a dirty win, it was all about the three points.

I think calling it dirty is unfair. We created plenty of chances with good play and it was end to end stuff. A bit scrappy, and definitely hard fought, but an enjoyable game.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: filham on December 11, 2012, 02:45:34 PM
Quote from: grandad on December 11, 2012, 08:14:50 AM
The only player I feel had a poor game was Kaca. I don´t know if Frei would be worth a shot. We do have a few options for this position. If we can replicate the fight & passion from last night I see no reason why the rest of the starters should not start again.

The wideleft position is a problem, both Kaca and Frei are not living up to their early promise . I suspect Jol may soon give Richardson a go in that position now that he is fit.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: FFCfan on December 11, 2012, 04:23:41 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on December 11, 2012, 01:24:09 PM
Wouldn't exactly call last night's foorball "attractive"....by no means. It was a dirty win, it was all about the three points.

In some moments we played so fluidly, as we hadn't played since the game against Sunderland.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: FFCfan on December 11, 2012, 04:29:03 PM
Quote from: filham on December 11, 2012, 02:45:34 PM
Quote from: grandad on December 11, 2012, 08:14:50 AM
The only player I feel had a poor game was Kaca. I don´t know if Frei would be worth a shot. We do have a few options for this position. If we can replicate the fight & passion from last night I see no reason why the rest of the starters should not start again.

The wideleft position is a problem, both Kaca and Frei are not living up to their early promise . I suspect Jol may soon give Richardson a go in that position now that he is fit.

I would still keep Kaca on. It was first game after injury and he didnt do that well, it will be 1st game for Richardson after injury as well. We should start with Kaca and Richardson as a sub.

Quote from: JackyFulham90 on December 11, 2012, 12:32:23 PM
I think Diarra will be brought back in and maybe Richardson for Kacaniklic the rest of the team will remain the same and rightly so

I think Diarra is just not in form right now!
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: MartyFFC on December 11, 2012, 05:01:05 PM
Kaca and Baird out. Richardson and Diarra in. I know that's harsh on Bairdinho who has had a great season; but I just think we will need a bit more muscle in midfield against the likes of Diakite and Mbia. And I think the experience of Richardson will be useful in what will be a pretty intense atmosphere.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: A Humble Man on December 11, 2012, 05:03:54 PM
I would get Stockdale back as a matter of huge urgency.  We managed to win in spite of our Aussie friend attempts to lose it.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on December 11, 2012, 05:42:15 PM
Quote from: Mr Fulham on December 11, 2012, 01:24:09 PM
Wouldn't exactly call last night's foorball "attractive"....by no means. It was a dirty win, it was all about the three points.

We were trying to play attractive football. It was a lot better that a game where we `ground out' a result, at Chelsea for example. We could have been 3-0 up if Berbatov had taken his chances and then run away with the game. Overall it could have been about 7-4 if all the chances had been taken.

It looks a bit laboured, particularly without Ruiz (and Murphy and Dembele), because we struggled to move the ball upfield from Schwarzer and the defence. That is why we need a central midfielder who is confident on the ball and can link the defence with the forwards.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: JackyFulham90 on December 11, 2012, 06:11:55 PM
We played some great football yesterday let's not forget what a good side Newcastle are, same team that finished 5th last year, QPR will be a tough game but we played well and apart from Diarra I would keep the same team

Schwarzer

Riether Hughes Hangeland Riise

Duff Diarra Sidwell Kacaniklic

Berbatov

Rodallega


Subs - Etheridge , Senderos , Baird , Frei , Dejagah , Richardson , Petric
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: zzamora on December 11, 2012, 06:15:48 PM
Only 2 changes for me.

Schwarzer

Riether Hughes Hangeland Riise

Duff- Diarra- Sidwell- Richardson

Berbatov

Rodallega
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: CH FFC on December 11, 2012, 06:21:28 PM
I would keep the same team, but I might think about Richardson.  I wouldn't change anything else, except for the substitutions.  Dejagah could do very well against a side like QPR, but he seems to not be in good form at this time.

I agree with the Schwarzer comment, I love the Auzzie, but he could have costed us the game.  I am not saying that Stockdale would have kept the goal out either, but our GK position is beginning to worry me a bit.

The problem for me is not our line up against QPR, but the metality that the players bring.  In my opinion they need to force their way around, start off very aggressive and not let them get air.  On the restart at half start off aggressive again.  Do not give them a foothold in the game, and break down whatever confidence 'arry was able to build up in them this week.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: MJG on December 15, 2012, 05:44:30 PM
Quote from: MJG on December 11, 2012, 08:54:15 AM
I think it should be the same XI but I suspect because QPR's pitch is small and Kaca was below par, he might go for Richardson on the left to make us a bit tighter as a unit in the middle.
Well that worked!!!!!
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: A Humble Man on December 15, 2012, 07:57:14 PM
Quote from: MJG on December 15, 2012, 05:44:30 PM
Quote from: MJG on December 11, 2012, 08:54:15 AM
I think it should be the same XI but I suspect because QPR's pitch is small and Kaca was below par, he might go for Richardson on the left to make us a bit tighter as a unit in the middle.
Well that worked!!!!!

We were as open a barn door.
Title: Re: Would you mind fielding the same XI against QPR ?
Post by: west kowloon white on December 15, 2012, 08:06:34 PM
Brilliant stuff.