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Title: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: The Rock on June 19, 2013, 12:35:34 AM
I am concerned. "All the money's gone, nowhere to go" and we need 6 younger and better players for the first team.

Where's it gonna come from?
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: Admin on June 19, 2013, 12:39:22 AM
We have money don't panic, but we will only be spending it on the right players.

We have just had an 8 million quid bid turned down for McCarthy and also an 8 million quid bid for Vydra.

What does that tell you?
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: Arthur on June 19, 2013, 12:39:50 AM
Put it like that... clearly, we're doomed.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: JackyFulham90 on June 19, 2013, 06:09:30 AM
No we don't we need 2 central midfielders a striker &  possibly a left back
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: BestOfBrede on June 19, 2013, 07:55:22 AM
Quote from: Admin on June 19, 2013, 12:39:22 AM
We have money don't panic, but we will only be spending it on the right players.

We have just had an 8 million quid bid turned down for McCarthy and also an 8 million quid bid for Vydra.

What does that tell you?
We need a new negotiator?
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: Brown@FFC on June 19, 2013, 08:39:47 AM
A creative CM is priority. An attacking midfielder/ST is next, along with potentially a full back.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: Northern Cottager on June 19, 2013, 09:18:47 AM
Quote from: Admin on June 19, 2013, 12:39:22 AM
We have money don't panic, but we will only be spending it on the right players.

We have just had an 8 million quid bid turned down for McCarthy and also an 8 million quid bid for Vydra.

What does that tell you?

I think 8 million for Vydra would be nuts.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: fulhamben on June 19, 2013, 11:07:42 AM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 19, 2013, 07:55:22 AM
Quote from: Admin on June 19, 2013, 12:39:22 AM
We have money don't panic, but we will only be spending it on the right players.

We have just had an 8 million quid bid turned down for McCarthy and also an 8 million quid bid for Vydra.

What does that tell you?
We need a new negotiator?
lol
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: Zu-Meister on June 19, 2013, 11:18:43 AM
chelsea were the club in for vydra according to some, udinese want 15.......
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: SKSW6 on June 19, 2013, 11:22:52 AM
Quote from: Zu-Meister on June 19, 2013, 11:18:43 AM
chelsea were the club in for vydra according to some, udinese want 15.......

He trailed off massively from February onwards from what I remember, not worth half of that IMO.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: Bryanthebroom on June 19, 2013, 11:32:41 AM
I think Mo will spend just as long as Jol presents him with decent players who are good value for money.

Problem is those kind of players will have lots and lots of suitors.
Title: Re: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: Count Berbatov on June 19, 2013, 02:12:17 PM
No panic buys needed. Plus, we probably hear for about a tenth of what Jol's in for. The early business was done imo . It's a waiting game now. Obviously everyone is weighing their options

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Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: Admin on June 19, 2013, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 19, 2013, 11:07:42 AM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 19, 2013, 07:55:22 AM
Quote from: Admin on June 19, 2013, 12:39:22 AM
We have money don't panic, but we will only be spending it on the right players.

We have just had an 8 million quid bid turned down for McCarthy and also an 8 million quid bid for Vydra.

What does that tell you?
We need a new negotiator?
lol

Obviously half term once again.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: SaltfordWhite on June 19, 2013, 03:11:31 PM
Is it even July yet?
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: mccscratch on June 19, 2013, 03:54:52 PM
I know this may sound very Ameri-centric but we need to go and buy Jozy Altidore now... I have been very very hard on Jozy in his past because I deemed him as lazy but he has grown up a lot over the past year and he has a ton of goals left in him at 23....

People will point to his stint with Hull as not being up for the Prem but that was when he was 19-20 and not mature enough to understand all the necessary work that a true CF must put in... that has changed this past year for both club and country...

I only need to point to Michael Bradley (who we should have bought 3 years ago....) as a player that never was given a chance at Villa but is now a regular starter and performer for Roma...

We need another American into the club (besides young Hyndman) and Jozy would fill a need up front that has been lost since Zamora's great season of 2009-10. Let Berbatov float around between the midfield and attack and get Ruiz back on the right where he played so well in Holland...

Jozy Altidore Highlights 2012-2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KCH-dpg0_s#ws)
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: Azeedo on June 19, 2013, 04:27:56 PM
Joel Campbell let's get him on loan, Crystal Palace has been trying to get him from arsenal.  He's quality and he's only 20 years old
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: YankeeJim on June 19, 2013, 05:45:25 PM
No yanks! Please no yanks. I enjoy Fulham and don't need another round of xenophobia.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: EJL on June 19, 2013, 05:49:17 PM
- If Sascha goes, we need a right-back and a backup (or promote a youth player). It'd probably be Danny Simpson...
- A creative midfielder who can pull their weight defensively as well as having a good range of passing.
- Backup winger if Frei goes.
- A striker.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: mccscratch on June 19, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on June 19, 2013, 05:45:25 PM
No yanks! Please no yanks. I enjoy Fulham and don't need another round of xenophobia.

YJ... understand the xenophobia comment but do you not think that the current in form Altidore could really get us going this season? He is a Zamora body with more skill and better shooting/finishing ability.

Stop thinking about your enjoyment of Fulham on the messageboards and think of the enjoyment of the team on the pitch...
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: Texas White on June 19, 2013, 06:01:18 PM
Quote from: mccscratch on June 19, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on June 19, 2013, 05:45:25 PM
No yanks! Please no yanks. I enjoy Fulham and don't need another round of xenophobia.

YJ... understand the xenophobia comment but do you not think that the current in form Altidore could really get us going this season? He is a Zamora body with more skill and better shooting/finishing ability.

Stop thinking about your enjoyment of Fulham on the messageboards and think of the enjoyment of the team on the pitch...

I just dont think he is good enough and he flopped once in the UK. I think we are better off trying someone new, there are better young players out there.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: Enter the Frei on June 19, 2013, 06:18:09 PM
Altidore is not the sort of striker we need IMO.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: EJL on June 19, 2013, 06:36:38 PM
Quote from: Texas White on June 19, 2013, 06:01:18 PM
Quote from: mccscratch on June 19, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on June 19, 2013, 05:45:25 PM
No yanks! Please no yanks. I enjoy Fulham and don't need another round of xenophobia.

YJ... understand the xenophobia comment but do you not think that the current in form Altidore could really get us going this season? He is a Zamora body with more skill and better shooting/finishing ability.

Stop thinking about your enjoyment of Fulham on the messageboards and think of the enjoyment of the team on the pitch...

I just dont think he is good enough and he flopped once in the UK. I think we are better off trying someone new, there are better young players out there.
I'm not completely convinced either, but surely you can't use his stint at Hull as a precedent. He was 19 years old when he signed and plunged into a relegation battle during his first full season in European football. His best service - funnily enough, Jimmy Bullard - was out of most of the season.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: YankeeJim on June 19, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
Quote from: mccscratch on June 19, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on June 19, 2013, 05:45:25 PM
No yanks! Please no yanks. I enjoy Fulham and don't need another round of xenophobia.

YJ... understand the xenophobia comment but do you not think that the current in form Altidore could really get us going this season? He is a Zamora body with more skill and better shooting/finishing ability.

Stop thinking about your enjoyment of Fulham on the messageboards and think of the enjoyment of the team on the pitch...

Could Jozy be the answer? Sure could. However, just read what already has been written:
"I just dont think he is good enough and he flopped once in the UK. I think we are better off trying someone new, there are better young players out there."
"Altidore is not the sort of striker we need IMO"

Do you honestly believe the young man would get some bed in time? If he didn't bag a brace in his first outing he'd be slated hard.

Besides, he isn't a great hold up player and his pace, while good, is not exceptional. He is not the second coming of an Everton Rooney and as such wouldn't be given a proper chance by some.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: mccscratch on June 19, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on June 19, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
Quote from: mccscratch on June 19, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on June 19, 2013, 05:45:25 PM
No yanks! Please no yanks. I enjoy Fulham and don't need another round of xenophobia.

YJ... understand the xenophobia comment but do you not think that the current in form Altidore could really get us going this season? He is a Zamora body with more skill and better shooting/finishing ability.

Stop thinking about your enjoyment of Fulham on the messageboards and think of the enjoyment of the team on the pitch...

Could Jozy be the answer? Sure could. However, just read what already has been written:
"I just dont think he is good enough and he flopped once in the UK. I think we are better off trying someone new, there are better young players out there."
"Altidore is not the sort of striker we need IMO"

Do you honestly believe the young man would get some bed in time? If he didn't bag a brace in his first outing he'd be slated hard.

Besides, he isn't a great hold up player and his pace, while good, is not exceptional. He is not the second coming of an Everton Rooney and as such wouldn't be given a proper chance by some.

I think his hold up play is one of the things that has helped him mature... he received the ball with his back to goal more this season than any other for AZ. He has learned to combine with others as well... For the 6-7 million asking price we could do a lot worse..
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on June 19, 2013, 08:09:34 PM
Quote from: mccscratch on June 19, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on June 19, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
Quote from: mccscratch on June 19, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on June 19, 2013, 05:45:25 PM
No yanks! Please no yanks. I enjoy Fulham and don't need another round of xenophobia.

YJ... understand the xenophobia comment but do you not think that the current in form Altidore could really get us going this season? He is a Zamora body with more skill and better shooting/finishing ability.

Stop thinking about your enjoyment of Fulham on the messageboards and think of the enjoyment of the team on the pitch...

Could Jozy be the answer? Sure could. However, just read what already has been written:
"I just dont think he is good enough and he flopped once in the UK. I think we are better off trying someone new, there are better young players out there."
"Altidore is not the sort of striker we need IMO"

Do you honestly believe the young man would get some bed in time? If he didn't bag a brace in his first outing he'd be slated hard.

Besides, he isn't a great hold up player and his pace, while good, is not exceptional. He is not the second coming of an Everton Rooney and as such wouldn't be given a proper chance by some.

I think his hold up play is one of the things that has helped him mature... he received the ball with his back to goal more this season than any other for AZ. He has learned to combine with others as well... For the 6-7 million asking price we could do a lot worse..

Where'd you get that bit of information? AZ would be silly to sell him for that IMO.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: mccscratch on June 19, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on June 19, 2013, 08:09:34 PM
Quote from: mccscratch on June 19, 2013, 07:20:07 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on June 19, 2013, 06:52:57 PM
Quote from: mccscratch on June 19, 2013, 05:50:03 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on June 19, 2013, 05:45:25 PM
No yanks! Please no yanks. I enjoy Fulham and don't need another round of xenophobia.

YJ... understand the xenophobia comment but do you not think that the current in form Altidore could really get us going this season? He is a Zamora body with more skill and better shooting/finishing ability.

Stop thinking about your enjoyment of Fulham on the messageboards and think of the enjoyment of the team on the pitch...

Could Jozy be the answer? Sure could. However, just read what already has been written:
"I just dont think he is good enough and he flopped once in the UK. I think we are better off trying someone new, there are better young players out there."
"Altidore is not the sort of striker we need IMO"

Do you honestly believe the young man would get some bed in time? If he didn't bag a brace in his first outing he'd be slated hard.

Besides, he isn't a great hold up player and his pace, while good, is not exceptional. He is not the second coming of an Everton Rooney and as such wouldn't be given a proper chance by some.

I think his hold up play is one of the things that has helped him mature... he received the ball with his back to goal more this season than any other for AZ. He has learned to combine with others as well... For the 6-7 million asking price we could do a lot worse..

Where'd you get that bit of information? AZ would be silly to sell him for that IMO.

anywhere from 4-10 million Euro has been the ranges thrown around regarding him... I think it is a bit higher so 7 million GBP seems about right. He was bought by AZ Alkmaar from Villareal for 1.3 million GBP as Villareal were in dire need of cash.

And sorry, you are correct, I should not have said asking price because AZ has not provided one per Ernie Stewart. I should have said speculated valuation.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: Forever Fulham on June 19, 2013, 08:44:44 PM
Xenophobic?  Certainly not Fulham.  It's a U.N. meeting of players.  There are probably more Dutch players than English players now.   But I know what you mean--such disdain and diminishment only applies if the player is American, right?  Sigh.  Odd coming from fans whose nation finished lower than the U.S. in the final standing of the last World Cup.  With last night's win over Honduras (gorgeous one touch passing!), the USMNT sits alone at the top of its bracket.  Above Mexico.  Above Honduras, Costa Rica, Panama, Canada, and all of the little Caribbean island walk-over countries.  (Not sure if Jamaica qualifies as a walk-over opponent though.)  Beat a quality German squad.  Has beaten Spain, Italy, and other traditional powerhouse national teams. Seems to be pulling it together under Klinsmann (of whom I still have grave reservations).  If the English U21 team is any indication of the future quality of English players, things are not looking up.  Their performance has been abysmal.  True, most of the better U.S. MNT players are the product of foreign club development and play.  But not all of them.  This reluctance by some U.S.-based fans to want another U.S. player on the roster must get down to the kerfuffle over Dempsey.  Because English fans don't feel the same way about McBride.  The Dempsey hate divide will likely live on forever.  Like Israelis and Palestinians.  It just goes on and on.  Of course if we took Michael Bradley we'd be a much improved team.  Or Fabian Johnson, or Donovan, or Guzan, or at least 5 other quality players.  We'd just have to tell them upfront that if and when they ever plan to leave Fulham, they should orchestrate the move with a P.R. firm so as not to have their legacy and image wiped clean and rewritten.
Title: Re: We need 6 new first team players - who are they?
Post by: BestOfBrede on June 20, 2013, 08:22:57 AM
Quote from: Admin on June 19, 2013, 02:24:22 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on June 19, 2013, 11:07:42 AM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on June 19, 2013, 07:55:22 AM
Quote from: Admin on June 19, 2013, 12:39:22 AM
We have money don't panic, but we will only be spending it on the right players.

We have just had an 8 million quid bid turned down for McCarthy and also an 8 million quid bid for Vydra.

What does that tell you?
We need a new negotiator?
lol

Obviously half term once again.
Ah the old humour bypass!
Twas a joke seeing as everyone one on here seems so distressed with rumour after rumour!

Another joke is how many people suggest that 'THEY' would accept this and that for certain players - Tis Mo's/Clubs money!!!! they will decide what is or isn't acceptable!