But it seems we are back to our formidable worse. Oh dear
This is bad
Getting a right good chasing at the moment. Far too easy for Southampton. Is there a match thread?
what else did you guys expect?
Do our goal kick count ?
Any danger of winning a header???
Im not watching any more of this poo
I've switched off after the second goal
PROPER goal by Southampton there. Good old fashioned forward play, two great headers. Shows EXACTLY what we're lacking up top
everyone is playing terrible
misplaced passes, laziness, hoofball
i think i would have been better having dejagah and taarabt on the wings
Easiest 45 mins Southampton will ever have :dft007:
Parker and Sidwell are the most one-dimensional uncreative midfield in the premier league.
Without question. Like a game against the youth team for Southampton. No attempts whatsoever from us compared with 14 from them. Embarrassing.
managers fault. players look clueless both in defence and attack. On a side note ruiz is playing well defensively
Yep beat me to it no defensive shape Parker and Sidwell being made to look old and slow and we ask the lasiest I will not jump for a header player in our history to mark their best player in the air?
Quote from: Moussa Dembele the 3rd on October 26, 2013, 06:17:51 PM
Parker and Sidwell are the most one-dimensional uncreative midfield in the premier league.
Sidwell is a he worst midfielder.
Gentleman jim is tearing us apart
What a lifeless display fp.gif
Quote from: Buffalo76 on October 26, 2013, 06:17:35 PM
Easiest 45 mins Southampton will ever have :dft007:
I just said the same thing. Absolutely pathetic performance
Quote from: Fulham76 on October 26, 2013, 06:18:18 PM
Without question. Like a game against the youth team for Southampton. No attempts whatsoever from us compared with 14 from them. Embarrassing.
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Apparently Jol must have told the team to play at 60% and do a lot of standing and walking. He probably also told the defence to make sure they leave all forwards unmarked. THEN - come out in the second half and win it.
All joking aside, that is our worst half of the year. 14 shots on goal to zero I just saw. Team must not care. If they want Jol to keep his job, let alone their own, they should trying playing football.
What a joke.
The game may be lost, but the 2nd half will show if there's any fight in this team.
If we start playing properly we could still get something from the game.
Oop's, we haven't so far this season so very unlikely, just more pain.
Woeful!
So much for turning the corner after the CP game. Sheez Louise!
this is how we have played all season, IMO, except for 2nd half against Everton. We were lucky last week with two amazing strikes.
Jol is a poor manager for Fulham. He only seems to thrive when he has a lot of money to spend, which always leaves me wondering, that his only real skill seems to be in getting good players to play for him, and interviewing for managers jobs.
Berbatov is having a blinder though. Just ask jol.
Jol has always been a poor manager, he has been sacked almost everywhere he has been for a reason
Jol is attending the Jags game at Wembley tomorrow as a guest of the chairman. Maybe Khan can give him his P45 whilst he's there. 051
Southampton historically get most of their goals in the 2nd half of matches as they do double training sessions to build maximum stamina.
Really looking forward to our big comeback. I'm afraid it might be 4 or 5-0 when we get around to it.
It really really does begger belief the way we have played. I mean I know Southampton are firing on all cylinders and at home, and we havent been too hot of late, but the way in which we are displaying no fight or willpower whatsoever is frankly an embarressment. I mean that last statistic that flashed up really summed it up, Southampton 14 attemps, Fulham 0. I agree, pathetic.
Yep, i agree, we are not even trying. The saints are in form, and can probably beat anybody right now, but still.
I had to bale this afternoon as we brace ourselves for 'the storm of the decade'. Talk about a blind panic but there you go.
Anyway I thought I'd catch a bit in a pub on the way home. First pub is showing El Classico second pub about five people left after the second goal and the landlord turned the tele over to ............ El Classico. Lets embrace last Monday as we have resorted to average and we are simply not good viewing or a good sell. I've got home and lost out to Strictly. Sheesh.
Quote from: dlc on October 26, 2013, 06:26:19 PM
Berbatov is having a blinder though. Just ask jol.
It will probably happen though won't it. Post match interview on the lines of Berbatov was isolated, Lambert should not have sneaked off his marker, Ruiz is still learning and Bent needs more games. Losing Dembele might get rolled out again.
If Tarabt, Boateng, Kara and even good old Rodders cannot get in ahead of this lot why should they bother staying.
I really hope berbatov moves on in January
Watch Southampton and learn how to close down and defend . Its all about work rate and organisation. Jol has no plan B.
Quote from: Gezza on October 26, 2013, 06:52:02 PM
Watch Southampton and learn how to close down and defend . Its all about work rate and organisation. Jol has no plan B.
Or plan A we never have a clue in terms of shape organisation or a game plan
I suppose if you set the team up in such a way as to have only 9 players contribute to the game this is bound to happen.
Berbatov hasn't fancied it from the start, Senderos has been woeful, Parker has continuously been caught on the ball in our first third, Ruiz, well has been Ruiz and Bent is poo anyway.
Riether, Amorabieta and Stekelenberg are the only ones that look like the wanted it.
What does that clown Jol work on in training because it ain't pressing, shooting, defending or possession!!
After the lucky Palace game there were people asking where the Jol haters were now. I said they'll be back by Southampton and rightly so. Can anyone seriously still defend a man with no plan at all?
I can't stand watching Ruiz anymore he.s pathetic waste of time no fight or spirit
Quote from: MrProphet on October 26, 2013, 06:46:54 PM
I really hope berbatov moves on in January
Why wait for January?
Well we all know bent has had hardly a touch but ffs he is more likely to tuck a streaky one away than berbatov!
Yet again this game sums up everything that is wrong with the team.
Losing to a team in form away is not the issue IT'S THE PERFORMANCES.
Berbatov contributes NOTHING week after week. And Bent looks totally useless too. What an embarrassment today has been. A gutless exhausted looking performance.
the look on Jol's face is a man that seems lost. You could see him looking up at the clock, thinking to himself how much longer is the job mine. The man I'm sure is a good guy but he really should be a player/personnel director, not a manager or coach. He seems very behind the times.
Enough is enough. Another pathetic performance where we've been utterly embarrassed.
Get Muphy in with John Collins as number 2. Nothing can be worse than this
Yes to Jol going but no to Murphy or any other amateurs.
One word for it? Mine is embarassing
Woeful.
expected
Agree. If he can't motivate us to even close down the opposition we have no chance :026:
Men v boys :012:
Tot ziens.
performance was awful, jol has lost it etc
not sure throwing two ex players together would be the best idea to be fair..
Worst performance of the season?
That utter shite performance just sums up what everyone already knew through their big smiles on Monday night. We are a shambles. The Stoke win was an absolute fluke, and the Palace win was a borderline fluke against the leagues whipping boys.
why we take such poor support away then that performance this evening told you all you need to know. :dead horse:
First time I've ever said it!!! Jol has got to go.... Monday was a blue moon we need change and inspiration!!
I don't care if he's unproven or not super Danny Murphy would get that team playing with heart and passion!
Jol is a lost man!!!
my goodness that was the worst performance I have ever seen by any team. We had 2 attempts on goal in 90 minutes which were nowhere near the goal!
Not allowed to be published :046:
Buy him and Berbatov a one-way ticket to the sun-kissed destination of their choice for all I care, as long it means getting them as far from Fulham as possible. Can't take much more of this
Phew! at least on paper we got away with a decent result considering how pathetic we are. Jol will no doubt find something positive to say about that.
The fat mans got to go!
Painful.
and the same team that we manhandled last year at the cottage. just no desire to play. by anybody.
Worst performance by any team in the premier league ever?
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I'd personally like Hoddle with Murph and Collins working for him in some way.
Who ever it is Jol has to go. He can't motivate the team, hasn't got the bollocks to hook Berbatov and clearly hasn't a clue.
think it's best if fulham and berbatov part ways
i think his general laziness has had a massive effect on the team
Men v boys :012:
Honestly, I think many of us on this forum could pick a better balanced team and set them up to at least attack and have a few shots at goal.
Jol cant see a better way he is deluded and he will drag us down if he is allowed to continue, its never going to get much better than this.
Tonights performance ranked up there with one of the worst I think I've ever seen. Nothing more to say
Pathetic display. Everyone standing around, led by the cancer in the locker room, Berbatov. Hardly no one moves to space or makes a run. We get pushed all over the pitch and don't even have the strength to foul the other team. The midfield, especially Parker, was simply over run. Jol pulls Bent rather than the problem man Berbatov. To think I wasted my Saturday morning on this. If they can't win can't they be entertaining?
Quote from: YankeeJim on October 26, 2013, 07:36:41 PM
Pathetic display. Everyone standing around, led by the cancer in the locker room, Berbatov. Hardly no one moves to space or makes a run. We get pushed all over the pitch and don't even have the strength to foul the other team. The midfield, especially Parker, was simply over run. Jol pulls Bent rather than the problem man Berbatov. To think I wasted my Saturday morning on this. If they can't win can't they be entertaining?
Agreed, but its no good cutting out the cancer without removing the cause of it being there as well.
Easily the worse display ever by a Fulham team absolutely disgusting I am ashamed........
Quote from: Berbasilk_111 on October 26, 2013, 06:18:53 PM
managers fault. players look clueless both in defence and attack. On a side note ruiz is playing well defensively
Please tell me how it is the managers fault they kept giving the ball away, some very very wayward passes
Quote from: alfie on October 26, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
Quote from: Berbasilk_111 on October 26, 2013, 06:18:53 PM
managers fault. players look clueless both in defence and attack. On a side note ruiz is playing well defensively
Please tell me how it is the managers fault they kept giving the ball away, some very very wayward passes
perhaps motivation?
The story goes that Murphy led a delegation to tell Mark Hughes a change was required. Not sure who would lead a delegation now but surely it must get heated in the changing rooms especially after a performance like this one. The players are being ridiculed by the media, pundits and their own fans and that must hurt. Parker has every right to tear Berbatov off a strip and whilst he is at it he might as well grab the armband. In a way I hope there is an outburst from somebody, I hope somebody tells Jol how it is and in a way I hope we can make our point next week even if it means a derogatory chant at the big useless lump. Not the Fulham way I know but things are getting really bad ..... almost distasteful.
Quote from: alfie on October 26, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
Quote from: Berbasilk_111 on October 26, 2013, 06:18:53 PM
managers fault. players look clueless both in defence and attack. On a side note ruiz is playing well defensively
Please tell me how it is the managers fault they kept giving the ball away, some very very wayward passes
Sorry Alfie but can you explain how the manager is not responsible for how his team performs when this type of performance has become the norm? On average this is what I have come to expect since shortly before Christmas last season.
Quote from: alfie on October 26, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
Quote from: Berbasilk_111 on October 26, 2013, 06:18:53 PM
managers fault. players look clueless both in defence and attack. On a side note ruiz is playing well defensively
Please tell me how it is the managers fault they kept giving the ball away, some very very wayward passes
Oh! Come on. They're his team.
If the team isn't set up properly and no one knows where or what, him and his team mate are likely to be doing it is always going to be a struggle.
After what must be the most gutless can't be arsed game I have watched from us that the conclusion is our training sessions mirror what we witnessed not just tonight but going back 12 months. Totally embarrssed.
Before the Palace he said he didn't know if sulky could play with Bent in the same starting line up and then plays them the following 2 games. " Sorry Maartin but we have also come to the conclusion you are not the man for the job, so please take sulky and anyone else who doesn't want to play for us, as tonight has just shown, out the f...ing door with you!!! " A disgrace to the profession. :dft007: :dft007: :dft007: :dft007: :dft007: :dft007: 093.gif 093.gif 093.gif 092.gif 092.gif 092.gif
And that performance was why some of us refused to be at all carried away by the flattering scoreline at Palace, despite criticism for being negative. There are so many problems, I honestly do not know where we begin in turning things around. I wish it wasn't necessary, but Jol to depart has to be the first change though, that much is clear.
Quote from: BarryP on October 26, 2013, 07:54:05 PM
Quote from: alfie on October 26, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
Quote from: Berbasilk_111 on October 26, 2013, 06:18:53 PM
managers fault. players look clueless both in defence and attack. On a side note ruiz is playing well defensively
Please tell me how it is the managers fault they kept giving the ball away, some very very wayward passes
Sorry Alfie but can you explain how the manager is not responsible for how his team performs when this type of performance has become the norm? On average this is what I have come to expect since shortly before Christmas last season.
Couldn't agree more.
Quote from: alfie on October 26, 2013, 07:41:47 PM
Quote from: Berbasilk_111 on October 26, 2013, 06:18:53 PM
managers fault. players look clueless both in defence and attack. On a side note ruiz is playing well defensively
Please tell me how it is the managers fault they kept giving the ball away, some very very wayward passes
Absolutely the managers fault, without doubt. You don't seriously believe its not, do you??? Jol sets the team up not to attack & keep pumping hopeless long balls forward to no one. The team looked completely disinterested as well, so we clearly have a problem with Jol's motivational skills.
As happy as I was with the much needed win against Palace (Albeit two worldies saved Jol's blushes), I said after that game it was just papering over the cracks. We are a poor team with no end product. Other teams defences don't even break sweat. 2 shots all game, 0 on target. Poor, poor, poor.
Sorry Alfie but can you explain how the manager is not responsible for how his team performs when this type of performance has become the norm? On average this is what I have come to expect since shortly before Christmas last season.
Couldn't agree more.
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Agreed and before Christmas was that pitiful performance at the bush. Anyone here there that day?
We had no leadership, organisation, passion, or will then either. Just like today.
Well on Monday I used the heading DROSS to define the 1st hafl of the Palace game.
Wonder goals excluded. Got moaned at a bit for being Negative and an Armchair supporter.
Who amongst all of you could thingk of a word today that better describes this performance
or rather NON performance. 1 word answers will be fine,
Thank you.
inept
I've just read Mr Jol's post match comments. I think he's on another planet. He didn't set up a team to have any chance at St Mary's.
I truly believe he has lost it.
Outspent
Pathetic
Embarrassing
Jol is clueless, it baffles me how he sets up the team and what his orders are.
Berbatov can leave asap and stop ruining the club we love. I hate seeing him stropping about the pitch for 90mins, I'd give anything to have the chance to play for Fulham (or professional football at all) and to see him not trying really frustrates me. I CANNOT WAIT for him to leave and get some tryers back. Bring back Gera and Zamora anyday!!!
Quote from: ScalleysDad on October 26, 2013, 06:37:34 PM
I had to bale this afternoon as we brace ourselves for 'the storm of the decade'. Talk about a blind panic but there you go.
Anyway I thought I'd catch a bit in a pub on the way home. First pub is showing El Classico second pub about five people left after the second goal and the landlord turned the tele over to ............ El Classico. Lets embrace last Monday as we have resorted to average and we are simply not good viewing or a good sell. I've got home and lost out to Strictly. Sheesh.
I was sitting with my friends and they were wanting to watch El Classico. I insisted we watch the Fulham game when it kicked-off. As soon as it got to 1-0 I had to give it another 5-10 minutes to see how we responded and the answer is - we didn't respond.
I couldn't take it anymore, the passing and first-touch of some of the players was dreadful. The movement off the ball was non-existent. I had to relieve myself of remote-control duties because I knew we weren't going to get back into the game. And that'll be the last time i'll get to pick what match we watch.
I remember, fondly, the days when I was inspired to travel across the Atlantic to watch a Fulham match. Unfortunately, at the time, I wasn't able to afford such luxuries.
Now that I feel a little more secure financially, the inspiration is gone. I'm not going to spend that kind of money to watch this side in person.
This is what should get Mr. Khan's attention....not my personal decisions, but that his product doesn't inspire anyone new to spend their money.
today good=NOTHING
BAD= EVERYTHING
Quote from: MAHLUF on October 26, 2013, 09:04:23 PM
today good=NOTHING
BAD= EVERYTHING
Good summary. Spot on
Apathetic, as in couldn't give a flying poo?
I normally plan my trips back to UK around a Fulham fixture or two. Nothing has changes for my next one. I am looking at the away games so I won't be tempted to go. Will be over the atlantic soon but at this point,for the first time in about 20 years, no desire to go to a game. (unless Jol is gone before I get there).
Quote from: jarv on October 26, 2013, 09:32:49 PM
I normally plan my trips back to UK around a Fulham fixture or two. Nothing has changes for my next one. I am looking at the away games so I won't be tempted to go. Will be over the atlantic soon but at this point,for the first time in about 20 years, no desire to go to a game. (unless Jol is gone before I get there).
I have the same feelings Jarv, totally mate. I used to plan my trips across the pond based on fixtures, not so much over the past few years.
Quote from: jarv on October 26, 2013, 09:32:49 PM
I normally plan my trips back to UK around a Fulham fixture or two. Nothing has changes for my next one. I am looking at the away games so I won't be tempted to go. Will be over the atlantic soon but at this point,for the first time in about 20 years, no desire to go to a game. (unless Jol is gone before I get there).
More or less the same as me then. I will say one thing for this season. It's made my bank balance look a lot better. Last game I was at was Liverpool when Sturridge got the hat-trick. I don't expect to attend at all this season.. I can't barely bring myself to watch the games on TV.
If it's looking really bad come Jan or Feb I'll probably sort out a trip for the last couple of home games so I can see an end to our Premier League era, but apart from that, I just don't fancy it.
Yawn
Quote from: west kowloon white on October 26, 2013, 11:09:56 PM
Yawn
I assume you watched the game today too? You summed it up quite nicely..