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Title: Assistant?
Post by: mikeyffc28 on December 02, 2013, 10:03:52 AM
Now Rene is in the hotseat, what about getting Danny Murphy in as his assistant.  He has bucket loads of experience, and knowledge of the club and some of the players he has worked with during his time at the club. He would help to organise the midfield and more importantly has the experience from the great escape to be able to mentor the current team and try to focus them whilst increasing their confidence and belief.   
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: The Equalizer on December 02, 2013, 10:05:11 AM
Not a bad shout to get him to the club in some capacity. I'd probably have Kit Symons step up to the AM role though.

Or get Ray Lew back.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: Craven Mad on December 02, 2013, 10:23:21 AM
I'd love to have Danny back at the club. I think he'd take the job, instantly. His wife is always going on about the club on Twitter, and how desperate Danny is to get into managing..

Plus, he has first-hand knowledge of how to keep Fulham in the prem - need I remind!
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: mikeyffc28 on December 02, 2013, 10:50:19 AM
 :54: and Craven Mad, as your avatar shows, he has spilt his blood for us -how many of the current bunch would be prepared to do that. Make it happen Mr  051 we need someone with Danny's passion for the club to get involved.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: PokerMatt on December 02, 2013, 10:55:36 AM
Would be brilliant to see Danny back, whether as #2 or coach.

The players so obviously respected him as a captain and it would be the same as an assistant.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on December 02, 2013, 11:02:55 AM
Rene probably does not know Danny from Adam why would he choose him as assistant ???
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: grandad on December 02, 2013, 11:19:48 AM
I think he will ask Old Red Nose to be his No. 2. He has no job at the moment.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: Craven Mad on December 02, 2013, 11:20:02 AM
Quote from: KCat on December 02, 2013, 11:02:55 AM
Rene probably does not know Danny from Adam why would he choose him as assistant ???

I agree, but what I would say is that Rene (excluding a BRIEF spell at Anzi) has never managed before, so has not got a "standard" back room that follows him. Therefore, he needs to choose a new back room (assuming he doesn't keep Jols). Thus, he has a choice to make: choose a proven bloke with heaps of experience (no ideas..), someone he knows from Utd that understands the prem (I'm thinking a Neville, Scholes, or Solskjaer??), or someone who knows the club and would ease the fans (like Danny).

It's just speculation, but I'm sure that Rene will want a strong tactician to backup his coaching and give him steer as a new manager.. The last thing he'll want is to tarnish his managerial career with a relegation in his first "proper" year as a manager..
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: grandad on December 02, 2013, 11:29:06 AM
Quote from: Craven Mad on December 02, 2013, 11:20:02 AM
Quote from: KCat on December 02, 2013, 11:02:55 AM
Rene probably does not know Danny from Adam why would he choose him as assistant ???

I agree, but what I would say is that Rene (excluding a BRIEF spell at Anzi) has never managed before, so has not got a "standard" back room that follows him. Therefore, he needs to choose a new back room (assuming he doesn't keep Jols). Thus, he has a choice to make: choose a proven bloke with heaps of experience (no ideas..), someone he knows from Utd that understands the prem (I'm thinking a Neville, Scholes, or Solskjaer??), or someone who knows the club and would ease the fans (like Danny).

It's just speculation, but I'm sure that Rene will want a strong tactician to backup his coaching and give him steer as a new manager.. The last thing he'll want is to tarnish his managerial career with a relegation in his first "proper" year as a manager..

I think those 3 ex Utd players should be brought in as player coaches. Even now they are better than any of our current squad.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on December 02, 2013, 11:32:13 AM
Craven Mad ..................................then it would be Mike Phelan
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: bog on December 02, 2013, 11:33:38 AM
Danny Murphy please.

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Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: Fernhurst on December 02, 2013, 11:48:06 AM
Confusion remains this morning regarding Rene's actual job role.

According to Sky Sports News it took several phone calls to Fulham hierarchy before they confirmed he is still HEAD COACH at present.
Perhaps Gus Hiddink is boarding a plane?
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: Craven Mad on December 02, 2013, 11:56:49 AM
Quote from: Fernhurst on December 02, 2013, 11:48:06 AM
Confusion remains this morning regarding Rene's actual job role.

According to Sky Sports News it took several phone calls to Fulham hierarchy before they confirmed he is still HEAD COACH at present.
Perhaps Gus Hiddink is boarding a plane?

You're right, Rene's (at time of posting) still registered as Head Coach, on the club website.

http://www.fulhamfc.com/the-teams/staff/rene-meulensteen (http://www.fulhamfc.com/the-teams/staff/rene-meulensteen)

And the club statement only noted that "Rene Meulensteen will run First Team duties" - not that he's the new manager..

A twist in the tale to come, perhaps??
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: Rudolph on December 02, 2013, 11:59:50 AM
Quote from: KCat on December 02, 2013, 11:32:13 AM
Craven Mad ..................................then it would be Mike Phelan

I am with you on this one. Would be a superb addition.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: Hoppus on December 02, 2013, 12:02:03 PM
Quote from: mikeyffc28 on December 02, 2013, 10:03:52 AM
Now Rene is in the hotseat, what about getting Danny Murphy in as his assistant.  He has bucket loads of experience, and knowledge of the club and some of the players he has worked with during his time at the club. He would help to organise the midfield and more importantly has the experience from the great escape to be able to mentor the current team and try to focus them whilst increasing their confidence and belief.   

Jonathan Hill is the new coach, link only in Norwegian sorry:

http://www.itromso.no/sport/article8723493.ece (http://www.itromso.no/sport/article8723493.ece)

Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: ron on December 02, 2013, 12:31:39 PM
Quote from: The Equalizer on December 02, 2013, 10:05:11 AM


Or get Ray Lew back.

Indeed ! His departure was the real loss.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: Baider on December 02, 2013, 01:08:12 PM
Fulham Football Club would like to welcome Jonathan Hill, appointed as First Team Coach to work with Rene Meulensteen.

Jonathan Hill worked at Manchester United for 10 years as Academy Youth Coach prior to joining the Jordanian Football Association as Technical Director of Football in 2009 where he was responsible for all of the National Youth Teams from Under-8s to Under-20s. More recently, Jonathan has coached at both Manchester City and Tromso FC.

The Club can also confirm that Development Team Manager Kit Symons will also be assisting with First Team training, alongside his responsibilities for the Under-21 Team.

Michael Lindeman, Billy McKinlay and Cornelis Jol have left the Club and we would like to thank them for their service and wish them well for the future.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: Fernhurst on December 02, 2013, 01:14:29 PM
WOW ...... A real flavour of Man U and quite exciting.....

Good shout promoting Kit ..... "Come on son sort that defence out".

Rene really is the top man now and despite all his protesting. These arrangements have been put in place very quickly hmmm.

Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: God The Mechanic on December 02, 2013, 01:22:17 PM
If he decides to replace Jol's backroom staff with United's from last year things could turn out quite well :p
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: LBNo11 on December 02, 2013, 01:25:01 PM
...blimey that was quick, either Rene is a bloody fast mover or this was all planned some time ago...
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: Me-ate-Live, innit?? on December 02, 2013, 01:25:46 PM
Love it  :54:
and Kit gets a say  coooooooooooooooooooooooooool !!!
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: PokerMatt on December 02, 2013, 01:36:49 PM
Quote from: LBNo11 on December 02, 2013, 01:25:01 PM
...blimey that was quick, either Rene is a bloody fast mover or this was all planned some time ago...

Yep.. got the be the latter hasn't it?
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: God The Mechanic on December 02, 2013, 01:38:41 PM
I thought Billy McKinlay was pretty highly thought of?
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: grandad on December 02, 2013, 01:41:04 PM
All good news, especially Kit who I really rate.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: cmg on December 02, 2013, 01:42:54 PM
Jonathan Hill?

That's not Jonathan M. Hill is it?
I sincerely hope not. Although it might add to our shooting power and would certainly strengthen the right wing.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: TonyGilroy on December 02, 2013, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: LBNo11 on December 02, 2013, 01:25:01 PM
...blimey that was quick, either Rene is a bloody fast mover or this was all planned some time ago...

Not really.

Hill's a mate, Symons is at the club and he obviously doesn't rate McKinlay.

I think the plan was for Muelensteen to work with Jol but his position became untenable because of the increasingly toxic relationship with the supporters who weren't appeased by Rene's appointment.

And that was because we saw two abject performances in winnable games.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: westcliff white on December 02, 2013, 01:51:53 PM
How long is Renes contract with the club? if he was bought in to assist MJ, then maybe it would have expired at the same time (i.e. end of this season). if that's the case it would only be short term appointments or the current back room will stay, which may not be a good thing as Rene was bought in to make the team better.

If he has a longer contract now, then it is logical to assume that some or all of the back room will leave. I would think he would stick with someone he knows as his right hand man, maybe Mike Phelan, but he has said he wants to manage. I cant see Solksjaer coming as an assistant, Scholes turned down united to have a year off, and Phil Neville wont leave Moyes in my opinion.

SO other than Phelan who else left United? Eric Steele he has gone to Derby, but the must be some others who left. Will be interesting to see who comes in (if anyone) as it will indicate maybe a longer term plan.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: west kowloon white on December 02, 2013, 01:59:24 PM
Apart from being a mate ,has anyone got any knowledge of Hill and his ability or otherwise?nPleased to see Symons recognised.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: Tonywa on December 02, 2013, 02:12:12 PM
interesting statement from the club on Talk Sport emphasising that Rene is not taking over directly as manager from Jol, but assumes the title of Head Coach.  Is this the club keeping its options open opt is it merely a change of title?
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: west kowloon white on December 02, 2013, 02:14:08 PM
Thought he had been head coach for last few weeks.
Title: Re: Assistant?
Post by: PokerMatt on December 02, 2013, 02:42:20 PM
Quote from: Tonywa on December 02, 2013, 02:12:12 PM
interesting statement from the club on Talk Sport emphasising that Rene is not taking over directly as manager from Jol, but assumes the title of Head Coach.  Is this the club keeping its options open opt is it merely a change of title?

I guess it leaves the option for him to carry on as Steve Clarke is head coach at West Brom, for us to bring in a "manager" as was the case when Rene was coach under Alex Ferguson or maybe we're going the European Director of Football role.

Personally, I felt Jol might have been appointed to that (DoF) role at the end of the season. His best assets are managing to bring in good players, he just cannot coach them. Obviously he won't now, but the door is open for an appointment of that kind.