its been a long road guys but i've finally had enough of some people on here. Its actually starting to depress me the drivel i have to read on a daily basis about are club it actually makes me sad :016: it reminds me of the cottage corner days . I know everyone is allowed there opinion and i accept that but i can see other members on here getting irate at some of the posts . Admin's you do a fantastic job on this site and try your best and i salute you for that 065.gif , hopefully i will return one day when everything has settled down and its the friends of fulham i remember :012:
take care all :Get Coat gif:
Just take a few days break, I do it from time to time to recharge from all the negativity.
The truth is our club is at risk and struggling to look like a side that will do anything but barely miss relegation or end up in the Championship. It's hard to take, and everyone deals with it different and of course supporters want to blame someone.
We are still Friends of Fulham, and if the 'friendly' supporters leave, then we are left with those that are not. Make the board what you want and know that while we can't manage how people think or even express themselves, we will continue to Moderate based on the written rules as best we can.
Taking a break is good idea actually.
I understand how you feel sammy. Although the club is struggling and in a difficult situation some of the things I read on here are absurd and simply baffle me. However its those that are friendly and constructive that make this fof and not cottage corner so I do hope you return soon.
We are all deeply distressed about what is happening at the Club. Everyone has their own way of showing their feelings. Sure there are a few who make statements only for their own ego. Generally people on here are deeply passionate about their club & I being one of them will continue to post & reply to threads.If you don´t like the subject or tone of a thread or post then you can choose to ignore it.
I echo RidgeRider's thoughts on this. A good break is needed (lord knows I've taken a few in my time on here) and then come back after a while. Unfortunately with the situation we're in now negativity is inevitable. Hope you change your mind 049:gif
Some of us will always be negative and make silly wild statements and annoy others. It is called life. Don't be a stranger for too long and as soon as something good happens like a goal or two then all the positve, wild assumptions will come flooding back.
Just take a break from the site. I don't post as often as I used to but I still read it. When things go well, criticism is minimal. When things look dire, criticism is massive!
He is still here, hiding behind the door to see what people are saying about him :005:
I know how you feel. I can rarely find anything to post on at the moment!
i blow very hot and cold and try to back up everything with examples and general stuff to make my point.
Some people just talk rubbish and make ridiculous comments (not just things I happen to diasagree with).
And part of the reason for the MBs is to allow people to let off steam, and when things aren't going so well it can be a bit dispiriting if it is too negative or appears disunited on here. But hopw dull would it be if we aall agreed about everything.
But one thing is I feel sure everybody says what they think to try and make fulham better. That is what i try to do.... and if you want something positive.... I am ready to my renew my season ticket now. If asked tomorrow I would do it, that must show faith.
I see where you are coming from Sammy because it can get frustrating reading it at times, but some of these comments made are just to get the reaction you've given now, which I (like grandad says) just ignore.
For the majority and legit negative comments, Lighthouse's post will show you it's just fickle fans doing their thing.
Hopefully we'll have plenty of good things to speak of in the next two days with some big signings and then good results, then you'll see those same posters looking at europe.
Come back soon
Quote from: epsomraver on January 29, 2014, 11:07:23 AM
He is still here, hiding behind the door to see what people are saying about him :005:
i am indeed haha ! well not exactly , i had some dm's i had to reply to haha ! but thanks for the advice everyone , your probably right i just need to take a break or just read the forum without posting , its like an addiction though , FOF has become a part of my daily routine , hopefully everything gets better soon :D
I agree with you, this board is getting so negative, we are not down the season ends in May & we have 45 points still to play for
Quote from: Furby on January 29, 2014, 11:16:52 AM
I see where you are coming from Sammy because it can get frustrating reading it at times, but some of these comments made are just to get the reaction you've given now, which I (like grandad says) just ignore.
For the majority and legit negative comments, Lighthouse's post will show you it's just fickle fans doing their thing.
Hopefully we'll have plenty of good things to speak of in the next two days with some big signings and then good results, then you'll see those same posters looking at europe.
Come back soon
is it fickle? I was 100% against Jol and day in day out I screamed for his head and I was always told I knew nothing and was too
negative.
Now i like rene and given time I think he will come good especially if he gets rid of ray and Curbs who seem to have affected the way we play.
But until yesterday i was very optimisitic about going forwards, unfortunately this morning i find my new found optimism severely shaken.
So with jol i was sure we would go down, now i still think we will survive but it will be a very turbulent ride... and if we persist playing dempsey and rchardson IMO we are effectively playing with 9 1/2 players and berba continues to underwhelm despite his imense natural ability. I don't think people are actually fickle rather they are very worried and touchy because as supporters there is so little we can materially do to try and help.
Every one is fed up mate, what frustrates me and I am sure I am not alone is the total lack of urgency, the total lack of effort by some players and the total lack of pace from the team. Other teams run onto a fast pass played in front of them, they break at pace, we don't ,we stand around waiting for the pass and 9 times out of 10 pass it straight back to where it came from usually backwards, it was park football last night ending up in just lumping the ball upfield in hope. If the team played well with effort and still lost then most would accept that we are not good enough but done our best, that is not happening and that is what incences so many.
hes right the board is way to negative. I understand people have theire rights to express theire feelings and thoughts etc, but I would like to rather see people keeping it to themselves instead of winding up many others, I dont remembers names of posters either but there are allso some who just posts negativity about Fulham either they are trolls or not, but why not those posts get deleted is a big question to me. Example the one forum posts saying RM disrespects the FA cup etc that was posted the other day... or that Wind Up guy or whatever he calls himself, why allow people to posts such posts?
I can understand the negativity, but some of the trolling posts from certain individuals are starting to grind somewhat, so I can certainly understand SammyFFC's frustrations.
Quote from: K33NY on January 29, 2014, 11:43:11 AM
hes right the board is way to negative. I understand people have theire rights to express theire feelings and thoughts etc, but I would like to rather see people keeping it to themselves instead of winding up many others, I dont remembers names of posters either but there are allso some who just posts negativity about Fulham either they are trolls or not, but why not those posts get deleted is a big question to me. Example the one forum posts saying RM disrespects the FA cup etc that was posted the other day... or that Wind Up guy or whatever he calls himself, why allow people to posts such posts?
That 'disrespected the FA cup thread' was ridiculous. Almost as bad as 'We want our club back'. fp.gif
Quote from: MiltonBurrows on January 29, 2014, 11:49:05 AM
That 'disrespected the FA cup thread' was ridiculous.
Yup, and it's not as if it was a solitary event.
Quote from: nose on January 29, 2014, 11:36:48 AM
Quote from: Furby on January 29, 2014, 11:16:52 AM
I see where you are coming from Sammy because it can get frustrating reading it at times, but some of these comments made are just to get the reaction you've given now, which I (like grandad says) just ignore.
For the majority and legit negative comments, Lighthouse's post will show you it's just fickle fans doing their thing.
Hopefully we'll have plenty of good things to speak of in the next two days with some big signings and then good results, then you'll see those same posters looking at europe.
Come back soon
is it fickle? I was 100% against Jol and day in day out I screamed for his head and I was always told I knew nothing and was too
negative.
Now i like rene and given time I think he will come good especially if he gets rid of ray and Curbs who seem to have affected the way we play.
But until yesterday i was very optimisitic about going forwards, unfortunately this morning i find my new found optimism severely shaken.
So with jol i was sure we would go down, now i still think we will survive but it will be a very turbulent ride... and if we persist playing dempsey and rchardson IMO we are effectively playing with 9 1/2 players and berba continues to underwhelm despite his imense natural ability. I don't think people are actually fickle rather they are very worried and touchy because as supporters there is so little we can materially do to try and help.
Not seeing your point to question my fickle quote? If the majority of people one week say we're down and have no hope, then the next week say I can see us staying up now Burns, Hangers and Stek are back then yes I say that was being fickle.
fickle |ˈfɪk(ə)l| adjective
changing frequently, especially as regards one's loyalties or affections:
Being female I don't mind people out pouring their thought's and feeling, rather enjoy it actually. Mind you being a naturally negative flippent person, too much positivity when things are obviously going pete tong seems a bit bizarre (mind you this could be because I'm an accountant come IT person as well!)
what grinds me is what i've said to other members , its when people constantly contradict themselves. It really grinds my gears , they will have there say , then go back on it , once questioned they kick off , and so on and so on . Its getting ridiculous the way some mature people are behaving on here. For the win-dup guy and that nick batemen we all know they are trolls and just try and wind us up ! but the admins don't have have to delete them as SOMETIMES , very rarely them posters will post something which is actually genuine haha believe it or not ! i was stressed last night , after the result i just gave up . I was that sure we was going to lose i went to watch THE HOBBIT in the cinema haha as it would be more entertaining , i want the days back where i would be rushing on the tube or rushing to a stream !
Of course there is negativity have a look at the table and games played.
Its OK being positive and saying we have 45 pts to play for but also back it up and tell me where 19 pts are coming from.
Is it trolls or negative posts that gets to people really?
I'd argue all my points, I might be wrong and I might give a negative view. On the other hand I have always been positive about the youth in the team. Look at Burn, one poster on this thread would always say something negative about him when his name was mentioned.'i saw he gave a penalty away for Birmingham' or something similar.
Worst thing on here is people not willing to back up their comments either with facts or a good argument for it.
He's poo is not the answer when questioned why you don't rate a player. Say why you think he's poo.
Rant over
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Sammy, we are all frustrated but saying "annoying people" and using description "drivel" is not really the way to go. I just ignore the comments I think are stupid. The comments I disliked the most were from the Sidwell haters. Funny, he now happens to be top scorer and probably will get player of the year. I stopped reading their comments, I knew who they were so just ignored them.
There is no doubt, Jol (and others) have destroyed our team. Sadly, nothing we can do about it (except moan and complain!) 092.gif
It is inevitable that when times are tough then things will get a bit lary on here.
We will all have different views of what is going wrong, why it is going wrong, what needs to be done about that, will we survive or go down, which players are a waste of space or making the effort, etc. etc.
The key thing is that we all have a role to play in making sure that this board does not go the way of Cottage Corner.
This means (for example):
1. Being able to express thoughts without fear of getting abused for doing so.
2. Respecting other people's points of view, even if they don't align with ours.
3. Avoiding the temptation to belittle or abuse others.
4. Engaging in threads with well thought through opinions, facts, ideas etc.
5. Thinking through any contribution that you want to make before pressing "Post".
6. As per Sammy...taking an occasional break could be the right thing to do at times.
All this becomes even more important when feelings are running high.
Quote from: Berserker on January 29, 2014, 12:08:18 PM
Being female I don't mind people out pouring their thought's and feeling, rather enjoy it actually. Mind you being a naturally negative flippent person, too much positivity when things are obviously going pete tong seems a bit bizarre (mind you this could be because I'm an accountant come IT person as well!)
Many would the whole idea of supporting a team like Fulham is 'bizarre', and spending loads of money on it- but they don't understand of course.
For me the very notion of supporter is one of optimism - you go to the game in the often irrational, to an outsider, hope, that the team will win.
I am someone who, like yourself now (and well done to you), used to go to a lot of away games.
- where we usually lost.
The reason I no longer go is financial, but I feel particularly compelled to go now, unlike many who feel the opposite, when I feel the team needs its fans- and I'm also up for the fight -
as I did in the Great Escape year, when I was one of those who went to Man C - when relegation seemed almost inevitable even to the most diehard fan - and yet we turned it round - and what a euphoric moment that was!
I am in real life a sufferer from depression, and pessimistic - and supporting Fulham is an escape from this - and every game is one that my heart feels we will win, even if my head says something else.
Everyone is entitled to their point of view, but yes, I do find the negativity on this board hard to take, though it is understandable at the present time, after such a period of comparative success - but I do find it over the top sometimes, and it makes me depressed to read it - so I avoid a lot of the comments.
Quote from: Burt on January 29, 2014, 01:29:09 PM
It is inevitable that when times are tough then things will get a bit lary on here.
We will all have different views of what is going wrong, why it is going wrong, what needs to be done about that, will we survive or go down, which players are a waste of space or making the effort, etc. etc.
The key thing is that we all have a role to play in making sure that this board does not go the way of Cottage Corner.
This means (for example):
1. Being able to express thoughts without fear of getting abused for doing so.
2. Respecting other people's points of view, even if they don't align with ours.
3. Avoiding the temptation to belittle or abuse others.
4. Engaging in threads with well thought through opinions, facts, ideas etc.
5. Thinking through any contribution that you want to make before pressing "Post".
6. As per Sammy...taking an occasional break could be the right thing to do at times.
All this becomes even more important when feelings are running high.
Just suck the fun out of it why don't you.
Quote from: TonyGilroy on January 29, 2014, 02:57:00 PM
Quote from: Burt on January 29, 2014, 01:29:09 PM
It is inevitable that when times are tough then things will get a bit lary on here.
We will all have different views of what is going wrong, why it is going wrong, what needs to be done about that, will we survive or go down, which players are a waste of space or making the effort, etc. etc.
The key thing is that we all have a role to play in making sure that this board does not go the way of Cottage Corner.
This means (for example):
1. Being able to express thoughts without fear of getting abused for doing so.
2. Respecting other people's points of view, even if they don't align with ours.
3. Avoiding the temptation to belittle or abuse others.
4. Engaging in threads with well thought through opinions, facts, ideas etc.
5. Thinking through any contribution that you want to make before pressing "Post".
6. As per Sammy...taking an occasional break could be the right thing to do at times.
All this becomes even more important when feelings are running high.
Just suck the fun out of it why don't you.
I try my best :dft011:
Quote from: DukeTyrion on January 29, 2014, 11:45:56 AM
I can understand the negativity, but some of the trolling posts from certain individuals are starting to grind somewhat, so I can certainly understand SammyFFC's frustrations.
Agreed. The trolling posts are hard to manage. We keep a record of such things on posters and we do try and correct and warn about certain posting styles. Sometimes you'll see posters just disappear because they can't post anymore and sometimes they get what we are saying and will change how they approach their posts.
The ones that post for sport, we try and weed out, but we give them a chance to hang themselves and again we keep a running thread, along with copies of the posts or commentary on these posters, just so we know how extensive their crossing of the lines have been before we take any permanent action.
We will also remove or edit swear words, so if any poster notices their post has been removed, the one they took 5 minutes to write, it was taken out because the used a curse word. I only posting this as I assume many are reading this thread and may or may or may not know how we try to Moderate things.
..but is there that much negativity on here, given the situation we are in..?
President Harry S Truman was quoted as saying "I never gave anyone hell; I just told them the truth, and it sounded like hell".
....... ?
Quote from: RidgeRider on January 29, 2014, 03:07:13 PM
We keep a record of such things on posters and we do try and correct and warn about certain posting styles. Sometimes you'll see posters just disappear because they can't post anymore and sometimes they get what we are saying and will change how they approach their posts.
The ones that post for sport, we try and weed out, but we give them a chance to hang themselves and again we keep a running thread, along with copies of the posts or commentary on these posters, just so we know how extensive their crossing of the lines have been before we take any permanent action.
We will also remove or edit swear words, so if any poster notices their post has been removed, the one they took 5 minutes to write, it was taken out because the used a curse word. I only posting this as I assume many are reading this thread and may or may or may not know how we try to Moderate things.
Blimey! And I thought I only had GCHQ, NSA and the Murdoch press to worry about.
Quote from: cmg on January 29, 2014, 03:17:51 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on January 29, 2014, 03:07:13 PM
We keep a record of such things on posters and we do try and correct and warn about certain posting styles. Sometimes you'll see posters just disappear because they can't post anymore and sometimes they get what we are saying and will change how they approach their posts.
The ones that post for sport, we try and weed out, but we give them a chance to hang themselves and again we keep a running thread, along with copies of the posts or commentary on these posters, just so we know how extensive their crossing of the lines have been before we take any permanent action.
We will also remove or edit swear words, so if any poster notices their post has been removed, the one they took 5 minutes to write, it was taken out because they used a curse word. I'm only posting this as I assume many are reading this thread and may or may or may not know how we try to Moderate things.
Blimey! And I thought I only had GCHQ, NSA and the Murdoch press to worry about.
They don't call us the Moderati for nothing :005:
CMG, your dossier is a bit thin. We'll need to work on beefing it up a bit 086.gif
Quote from: RidgeRider on January 29, 2014, 03:29:07 PM
They don't call us the Moderati for nothing :005:
CMG, your dossier is a bit thin. We'll need to work on beefing it up a bit 086.gif
Guess I should've learnt by now - you can't beat City Hall.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uJugSwY3ww#ws (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0uJugSwY3ww#ws)
i've read and took all of your opinions into consideration and have decided to immediately come out of retirement . purely for the fact i miss posting or commenting on stuff , but I'm just turning a blind eye to the nonsense from now on . Love you all FOF's
I had a funny thought while reading this thread in that some of the most negative people are on here complaining about how OTHERS are negative. Hmmmmmn, perhaps they think I'm negative. Unless I'm talking about old walk about, I don't think I am. I suppose we all think that way. Difference is, I'm right!!!!! :Get Coat gif:
I dont post alot, but i do go through alot of the threads. At this point its not really worth my time anymore. Post after post with negativ views against the club.
This forum used to be a great read, but now its just not worth the time spent. I`m still positiv we can stay up and if others dont believe we can i see no reason to read about it every day.
Quote from: Sammyffc on January 30, 2014, 01:26:00 AM
i've read and took all of your opinions into consideration and have decided to immediately come out of retirement . purely for the fact i miss posting or commenting on stuff , but I'm just turning a blind eye to the nonsense from now on . Love you all FOF's
Good stuff Sammy. Welcome back.
...personally I hate all the negative views members post about Friends Of Fulham being a negative site as if singling it out as the Fulham anti-christ. This site has a very high membership, and the views of the members more or less reflect the mood at games and in pubs/bars/coffee shops per and post match.
Again I ask, show me a Fulham site that is happy with the obvious malaise the club finds itself in and remains blissfully positive about the future - and I will ask what they are smoking or drinking?
For what is't worth I think we will just make it by the skin of our teeth - but surely people can see why the overall attitude is low...
