As a Manager Felix has had the following success rate (including Fulham):
48,4 % Wins
22,2 % Draw
29,5 % Losses
Just as a Manager of Fulham Prem & Champ:
Played Won Drawn Losses Win Draw Losses
18 4 4 10 22% 22% 56%
At Fulham it is almost the polar opposite of Mr Magath's general Managerial career to date
Early days yet!
Lets also bare in mind that he took over a team of crap and had us have something that looked like a push for safety, and transformed the squad essentially 20 in and 20 out.
Whilst also trying to play some good, attractive football, I don't think anyone would have better statistics.
That's what I've been saying....need more time....I've said many times, we shouldn't expect much until the Blackburn game
One of the biggest problems of this season is that Khan opened his mouth about immediate promotion with "finances be damned" and that sort of talk.
No matter the intent (people can speculate but no one knows), it set expectations waaaay too high for a team with so much turnover and for a manager that had to put it all back together.
Playoff places would have been a better target with middle of the table being more realistic.
Quote from: FPT on September 04, 2014, 12:48:21 PM
Lets also bare in mind that he took over a team of crap and had us have something that looked like a push for safety, and transformed the squad essentially 20 in and 20 out.
Whilst also trying to play some good, attractive football, I don't think anyone would have better statistics.
Agreed. Look at our last match and how we played, yeah it didn't last the full 90 minutes! But surely this shows it's starting to come together!
I believe Rene inherited and improved said squad yet people easily judge him. Not sure why Magath should be handled any differently. It's been a shambles from day one. Not pointing at Felix totally, but he certainly hasn't steered the ship.
I've also got a vested interest (bet) with my brother that we end up top 10.......we have to stick with Felix, he's slowly turning the tanker around
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on September 04, 2014, 01:16:56 PM
I've also got a vested interest (bet) with my brother that we end up top 10.......we have to stick with Felix, he's slowly turning the tanker around
slowly turning the tanker.....the only facts im looking at is 1 point from 15. Shocking statistic for the club.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on September 04, 2014, 12:16:42 PM
As a Manager Felix has had the following success rate (including Fulham):
48,4 % Wins
22,2 % Draw
29,5 % Losses
Just as a Manager of Fulham Prem & Champ:
Played Won Drawn Losses Win Draw Losses
18 4 4 10 22% 22% 56%
At Fulham it is almost the polar opposite of Mr Magath's general Managerial career to date
Even though they are bound to be interesting,
18 games is far too few to consider these types of stats to be even remotely significant.
And even if it were 100games in charge i have to say i am not a fan of such stats as they do not take account of circumstances. In the end the judgement is did the manager get the best from his squad, and second was he responsible for the squad.
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on September 04, 2014, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: FPT on September 04, 2014, 12:48:21 PM
Lets also bare in mind that he took over a team of crap and had us have something that looked like a push for safety, and transformed the squad essentially 20 in and 20 out.
Whilst also trying to play some good, attractive football, I don't think anyone would have better statistics.
Agreed. Look at our last match and how we played, yeah it didn't last the full 90 minutes! But surely this shows it's starting to come together!
I am not his biggest fan I will admit that, but at the end of the day he has reduced the age of the squad, with better quality that is yet to be shown.
It is a results game and at present he isn't getting them, yes we played a good half against Cardiff, the second half was a little better than average and we allowed Cardiff back in the game. Considering FM is all about fitness (that's what I read on here and in the papers, I don't know personally as I am not at the sessions) then it is surprising to see us drop away in later on in games. We can make more passes, have a better completion rate of the passes, more possession and more chances, however the only stat that counts is the one at the end of 90 minutes and we quite simply are not getting those.
Hopefully he will turn it around the next few fixtures are tough, Reading (perennial play off team), Forest (perennial play off team and one of the favorites to go up, plus had a great start), Blackburn (always tough to beat), 4 points form those games would be good but would it be enough? who knows. My fear is that the team will get sucked into the same mind set as last seasons squad and the longer we go with out results it will be harder to get up the table (obviously), and then if a manager change comes along the harder it is again to get a new style implemented and a new mindset. SO much so we could end up in a cycle many other teams have found themselves in (maybe Forest after relegation from the prem)
Quote from: FFC1987 on September 04, 2014, 01:14:42 PM
I believe Rene inherited and improved said squad yet people easily judge him. Not sure why Magath should be handled any differently. It's been a shambles from day one. Not pointing at Felix totally, but he certainly hasn't steered the ship.
You got to get it under control before you can steer it and I believe he is doing that.
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on September 04, 2014, 01:23:54 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on September 04, 2014, 01:14:42 PM
I believe Rene inherited and improved said squad yet people easily judge him. Not sure why Magath should be handled any differently. It's been a shambles from day one. Not pointing at Felix totally, but he certainly hasn't steered the ship.
You got to get it under control before you can steer it and I believe he is doing that.
Similar to Ian Branfoot all those years ago, very unpopular at the time, only after Mickey Adams had taken over did the benefits of his time in charge become apparant to us. I wonder if Felix will get the chance to show his true mettle (assuming we are not seeing it at present, of course).
No I don't believe at all. The experimentation is stupid. Anyone with any trace of a football brain knows Burn should have started long ago and Fotheringham should have never taken the field. We'll be lucky to stay up. I don't care what his CV says. It's misleading by the way. His last reign at Schalke also had questionable squad selections and tactical shortcomings. Then he took a Wolfsburg team who had quite a bit of talent and just got a mid-table finish. So why is he so great again? Oh yeah for stuff he did years ago avoiding relegation and winning championships with Bayern. I'm inclined to believe that has to do more with the talent of the team and the competition surrounding them than his difference making as a manager.
Quote from: Rupert on September 04, 2014, 01:35:35 PM
Quote from: shnlwswlkr on September 04, 2014, 01:23:54 PM
Quote from: FFC1987 on September 04, 2014, 01:14:42 PM
I believe Rene inherited and improved said squad yet people easily judge him. Not sure why Magath should be handled any differently. It's been a shambles from day one. Not pointing at Felix totally, but he certainly hasn't steered the ship.
You got to get it under control before you can steer it and I believe he is doing that.
Similar to Ian Branfoot all those years ago, very unpopular at the time, only after Mickey Adams had taken over did the benefits of his time in charge become apparant to us. I wonder if Felix will get the chance to show his true mettle (assuming we are not seeing it at present, of course).
sorry but I am not sure what you are saying. Is that mickey adams was lucky to follow branfoot who was misuderstood? or are you saying branfoot was an idiot and anybody would have been good after him?
Quote from: TrexFFC on September 04, 2014, 01:45:28 PM
No I don't believe at all. The experimentation is stupid. Anyone with any trace of a football brain knows Burn should have started long ago and Fotheringham should have never taken the field. We'll be lucky to stay up. I don't care what his CV says. It's misleading by the way. His last reign at Schalke also had questionable squad selections and tactical shortcomings. Then he took a Wolfsburg team who had quite a bit of talent and just got a mid-table finish. So why is he so great again? Oh yeah for stuff he did years ago avoiding relegation and winning championships with Bayern. I'm inclined to believe that has to do more with the talent of the team and the competition surrounding them than his difference making as a manager.
True. But, anyone who isn't in the locker room with the team and the coaching staff is a person who doesn't understand plenty that is going on that isn't being stated in public. You're eliminating plenty of possibilities by continuing with the "Magath is a loon" or "Magath doesn't know anything" mantra.
Quote from: nose on September 04, 2014, 02:03:53 PM
sorry but I am not sure what you are saying. Is that mickey adams was lucky to follow branfoot who was misuderstood? or are you saying branfoot was an idiot and anybody would have been good after him?
Mickey was lucky to follow Branfoot, who had restored some much needed discipline to the club after the Dicks/Mackay era shambles. He was also good enough to make use of the players available, which Branfoot had struggled to do. Luckily both Hill and Muddyman realised this and persuaded Branfoot to step upstairs as general manager, letting Mickey start us on the road to promotion.
There are certain similarities to the current situation, but I would like to see if Felix can succeed rather than yet another man come in and take over.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on September 04, 2014, 01:10:49 PM
One of the biggest problems of this season is that Khan opened his mouth about immediate promotion with "finances be damned" and that sort of talk.
I feel like this is probably overblown. Didn't he say something along these lines (though not, as I recall, anything so reckless as "finances be damned") like one time and then everyone else repeated it over and over?
Quote from: TrexFFC on September 04, 2014, 01:45:28 PM
No I don't believe at all. The experimentation is stupid. Anyone with any trace of a football brain knows Burn should have started long ago and Fotheringham should have never taken the field. We'll be lucky to stay up. I don't care what his CV says. It's misleading by the way. His last reign at Schalke also had questionable squad selections and tactical shortcomings. Then he took a Wolfsburg team who had quite a bit of talent and just got a mid-table finish. So why is he so great again? Oh yeah for stuff he did years ago avoiding relegation and winning championships with Bayern. I'm inclined to believe that has to do more with the talent of the team and the competition surrounding them than his difference making as a manager.
Taking wolfsburg from mid table to champions... a piece of cake , stuttgart and schalke to runners up positions...pieces of cake, and bayern champions twice and cup twice . Some people read the negative bs on the internet and believe every word and it clouds their judgement.
I know I'm beginning to sound like a magath fan boy but I'm not I just believe in giving a decent manager a decent chance.
Quote from: premFlem on September 04, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: TrexFFC on September 04, 2014, 01:45:28 PM
No I don't believe at all. The experimentation is stupid. Anyone with any trace of a football brain knows Burn should have started long ago and Fotheringham should have never taken the field. We'll be lucky to stay up. I don't care what his CV says. It's misleading by the way. His last reign at Schalke also had questionable squad selections and tactical shortcomings. Then he took a Wolfsburg team who had quite a bit of talent and just got a mid-table finish. So why is he so great again? Oh yeah for stuff he did years ago avoiding relegation and winning championships with Bayern. I'm inclined to believe that has to do more with the talent of the team and the competition surrounding them than his difference making as a manager.
Taking wolfsburg from mid table to champions... a piece of cake , stuttgart and schalke to runners up positions...pieces of cake, and bayern champions twice and cup twice . Some people read the negative bs on the internet and believe every word and it clouds their judgement.
I know I'm beginning to sound like a magath fan boy but I'm not I just believe in giving a decent manager a decent chance.
Just to muddy the waters a little bit about the Magath 'Legacy'. If he is such a fantastic Manager, why was he out of work for over 18 months?? Who are you trying to convince? If he is such a legend than why did no-one rush in to make him their Manager? Especially in Germany, where he had all of his success? Could it be that people realised he was trying to still use 20th Century methods in the 21st Century? Time moves on and if Managers don't they stagnate and so do the teams stuck with them. Just throwing that out there.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on September 04, 2014, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: premFlem on September 04, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: TrexFFC on September 04, 2014, 01:45:28 PM
No I don't believe at all. The experimentation is stupid. Anyone with any trace of a football brain knows Burn should have started long ago and Fotheringham should have never taken the field. We'll be lucky to stay up. I don't care what his CV says. It's misleading by the way. His last reign at Schalke also had questionable squad selections and tactical shortcomings. Then he took a Wolfsburg team who had quite a bit of talent and just got a mid-table finish. So why is he so great again? Oh yeah for stuff he did years ago avoiding relegation and winning championships with Bayern. I'm inclined to believe that has to do more with the talent of the team and the competition surrounding them than his difference making as a manager.
Taking wolfsburg from mid table to champions... a piece of cake , stuttgart and schalke to runners up positions...pieces of cake, and bayern champions twice and cup twice . Some people read the negative bs on the internet and believe every word and it clouds their judgement.
I know I'm beginning to sound like a magath fan boy but I'm not I just believe in giving a decent manager a decent chance.
Just to muddy the waters a little bit about the Magath 'Legacy'. If he is such a fantastic Manager, why was he out of work for over 18 months?? Who are you trying to convince? If he is such a legend than why did no-one rush in to make him their Manager? Especially in Germany, where he had all of his success? Could it be that people realised he was trying to still use 20th Century methods in the 21st Century? Time moves on and if Managers don't they stagnate and so do the teams stuck with them. Just throwing that out there.
Could it be that he wasn't really looking for a job? Could it be that he was looking for the right job for him? Could it be that "20th century methods in the 21st century" sounds pretty but doesn't mean anything? You do realize that all those championships and cup titles, 2nd places, Champions League births, Europa league births, et al were won in the ........ wait for it ........ 21st Century, dontcha?
There were two options for the season 14/15:
1. Let the young players play so that they become top players or
2. invest heavily and go for promotion
I think Felix convinced Mr. Khan to choose the first option. The decision for this option has nothing to do with money. This option includes the high risk of staying another year in the champioship but there is also the chance to accomplish something extraordinary.
For example Hyndman already plays for his national team. If he becomes a great player everyone will say: thank you fulham.
Quote from: Frank on September 04, 2014, 07:19:48 PM
There were two options for the season 14/15:
1. Let the young players play so that they become top players or
2. invest heavily and go for promotion
I think Felix convinced Mr. Khan to choose the first option. The decision for this option has nothing to do with money. This option includes the high risk of staying another year in the champioship but there is also the chance to accomplish something extraordinary.
For example Hyndman already plays for his national team. If he becomes a great player everyone will say: thank you fulham.
I believe it has quite a lot to do with money. Option 1 allows us to play our most valuable assets and allow them to become even more valuable both on the pitch and to larger clubs. Option 1 allows us to conduct our work in the transfer market with a "break even" mentality, only supplementing our youth with, for the most part, cheap but experienced players. This option allows us to sell off assets like Pat Roberts (they are already prepping us for this eventuality) and fund other signings or other club work. I believe it will help get us back to the PL but, it won't be happening this season.
Option 2 might have sounded good to Mr. Khan in the immediate aftermath of losing out Premiership status but, I don't believe anyone at the club - except every manager we've ever hired - wants to spend what is required to get us there and keep us there. We're either going to be able to fund our activities to get to and maintain the PL thru finding, developing, and selling talented youth players or we'll yo-yo between the two leagues. Nothing about Khan, right now, says that he's going to throw money at the situation.
Quote from: Rupert on September 04, 2014, 03:58:03 PM
Quote from: nose on September 04, 2014, 02:03:53 PM
sorry but I am not sure what you are saying. Is that mickey adams was lucky to follow branfoot who was misuderstood? or are you saying branfoot was an idiot and anybody would have been good after him?
Mickey was lucky to follow Branfoot, who had restored some much needed discipline to the club after the Dicks/Mackay era shambles. He was also good enough to make use of the players available, which Branfoot had struggled to do. Luckily both Hill and Muddyman realised this and persuaded Branfoot to step upstairs as general manager, letting Mickey start us on the road to promotion.
There are certain similarities to the current situation, but I would like to see if Felix can succeed rather than yet another man come in and take over.
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Oh in that case i am 100% in disagreement and in fact Jimmy Hill was good enough to talk to me about the situation because I was very outspoken re the man.
Branfoot was leading us straight into the conference, we were second to bottom of the bottom division, had just lost to the bottom team and were playing the worst rubbish. He destroyed players confidence, rory hamill was broken by branfoot, i met him and could see that for myself. Branfoot undermined the players and anyone not in his immediate entourage and pretty much failed for us and previous to that southampton, whos supporters sent us branfoot out T shirts. We didn't have discipline we had a tyrant, that was entirely different.
wasn't duncan jupp called up to the scotland squad only for branfoot to drop him immediately after and he was our best player (more or less). The man was a walking disaster.
they had to remove him to upsatirs for a short time because they couldn't afford to pay him off.
Branfoot played dour defensive football of the worst type, he was our worst ever manager by about 1000 miles and i have seen poor ones.
just my opinion.
mickey adams played fast attacking football and was a breath of fresh air.
Whoever follows Magath will have a different nightmare to deal with.
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on September 04, 2014, 06:32:55 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on September 04, 2014, 06:21:47 PM
Quote from: premFlem on September 04, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
Quote from: TrexFFC on September 04, 2014, 01:45:28 PM
No I don't believe at all. The experimentation is stupid. Anyone with any trace of a football brain knows Burn should have started long ago and Fotheringham should have never taken the field. We'll be lucky to stay up. I don't care what his CV says. It's misleading by the way. His last reign at Schalke also had questionable squad selections and tactical shortcomings. Then he took a Wolfsburg team who had quite a bit of talent and just got a mid-table finish. So why is he so great again? Oh yeah for stuff he did years ago avoiding relegation and winning championships with Bayern. I'm inclined to believe that has to do more with the talent of the team and the competition surrounding them than his difference making as a manager.
Taking wolfsburg from mid table to champions... a piece of cake , stuttgart and schalke to runners up positions...pieces of cake, and bayern champions twice and cup twice . Some people read the negative bs on the internet and believe every word and it clouds their judgement.
I know I'm beginning to sound like a magath fan boy but I'm not I just believe in giving a decent manager a decent chance.
Just to muddy the waters a little bit about the Magath 'Legacy'. If he is such a fantastic Manager, why was he out of work for over 18 months?? Who are you trying to convince? If he is such a legend than why did no-one rush in to make him their Manager? Especially in Germany, where he had all of his success? Could it be that people realised he was trying to still use 20th Century methods in the 21st Century? Time moves on and if Managers don't they stagnate and so do the teams stuck with them. Just throwing that out there.
Could it be that he wasn't really looking for a job? Could it be that he was looking for the right job for him? Could it be that "20th century methods in the 21st century" sounds pretty but doesn't mean anything? You do realize that all those championships and cup titles, 2nd places, Champions League births, Europa league births, et al were won in the ........ wait for it ........ 21st Century, dontcha?
Beat me to the 21st century Toodles ...wolfsburg champions 2009, schalke runners up 2010
Heres my attempt to clear the muddy waters....successful teams end up losing their best players to bigger/ richer clubs,
and owners of the successful clubs demand continued success nonetheless.
Thats me done defending Felix from now on hopefully the results will speak for themselves.
http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2017840/felix-magath-philosophy-behind-fulhams-championship-struggles (http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2017840/felix-magath-philosophy-behind-fulhams-championship-struggles)
A readable read. I thought the Hangaland debacle had been resolved as being not exactly accurate and a media mess. All the same the last line is a good summary of Magath.
I might be wrong but if "career success" is defined with reference to major trophies then I think Magath is probably the third most successful manager currently working in the UK, behind Mourinho and Van Gaal and roughly tied with Wenger. That's excluding success as a player which, if included, blows all of them out of the water.
Of course, plenty of our concerns about Magath have a reasonable basis and as they say, past performance doesn't guarantee future results, but we won't see another manager like him in the second tier for a while, that's for sure.
Why try and talk about facts and reason when it's irrelevant? We aren't getting promoted and he is 0 wins 1 draw and 4 losses with HIS team.
I will eat my words when we get 14 from the next 15 points. Save this post.
Quote from: The Rock on September 04, 2014, 11:17:51 PM
Why try and talk about facts and reason when it's irrelevant? We aren't getting promoted and he is 0 wins 1 draw and 4 losses with HIS team.
I will eat my words when we get 14 from the next 15 points. Save this post.
I concur, but the man is just baffling so far, I don't trust him to get this done to be frank, good signings, good selection, but something feels amiss to me, and i'm a little wary of the club making up his statements for him, just let the man tell it like it is, then i'll trust him.
Quote from: The Rock on September 04, 2014, 11:17:51 PM
Why try and talk about facts and reason when it's irrelevant? We aren't getting promoted and he is 0 wins 1 draw and 4 losses with HIS team.
I will eat my words when we get 14 from the next 15 points. Save this post.
I guess this is bombproof as it is impossible to get exactly 14 of the next 15 points. So no word eating for you. Was for a second getting excited seeing you try to flush it down with a :beer: if it actually happened - then I realised. 082.gif
ESPN needs to tend its own garden first. They've completely hosed up their scoreboard. What the hell was wrong with the last dozen season's drop down box format? That used to be my "go-to" for quick scores on game days. Now it takes three bloody clicks just to see who scored and then only in the one match.
Good ol' Auntie Beeb for me.
Quote from: H4usuallysitting on September 04, 2014, 12:16:42 PM
As a Manager Felix has had the following success rate (including Fulham):
48,4 % Wins
22,2 % Draw
29,5 % Losses
Just as a Manager of Fulham Prem & Champ:
Played Won Drawn Losses Win Draw Losses
18 4 4 10 22% 22% 56%
At Fulham it is almost the polar opposite of Mr Magath's general Managerial career to date
I'd be willing to bet that the squad he inherited last season was the poorest bunch of players he ever had to deal with. We couldn't win a bloody toss by the time he got here.
that's some pretty good evidence for magath out, a win at reading is a must. for all the gloss he's put on the team with his xi, he needs to prove himself with a win, and a convincing one, against a team who have floundered. a win will edge me a little back onside, and intelligent selection even more so, but the wins have to keep coming and let's see if he can do that
My only comment about the article is that it looks almost copied and pasted straight from some of the postings on this board. Not saying that it is good or bad. Just that I don't see anything new or interesting in the article.
Lazy journalism. Have a pot shot at silly old Fulham by recycling old material.
Fancy getting rid of a lot of experienced players (doesn't mention how crap they performed last season) and replacing them with youngsters (plus some quality experienced players like Bodurov).
Fancy signing last years Championship top scorer and his strike partner. Doomed.
I believe that when we gave Rene the boot last year it was when we were starting to play well and looked like getting results (Liverpool, Man U). This year it seems like we are playing well but not getting results.
I was particularly disappointed that Rene got sacked when we started to play well last year and thought it was a poor decision from the board. I feel that if we sack Magath now it will be an equally rash decision.
I think the opinion on whether you want Magath in or out now, may depend on how you viewed the sacking of Rene and the appointment of Magath in the first place.
Im not sure whether my view makes sense or not, I just don't feel like we should make the same mistakes that we did last year again. I don't think we will be relegated if we stick with Magath or sack Magath.
Yes Paddy - sacking Felix now will just repeat what happened with Rene -it would just mean we never gave either man a real chance -and what about the next bloke how many months will he get?
Quote from: Frank on September 04, 2014, 07:19:48 PM
There were two options for the season 14/15:
1. Let the young players play so that they become top players or
2. invest heavily and go for promotion
I think Felix convinced Mr. Khan to choose the first option. The decision for this option has nothing to do with money. This option includes the high risk of staying another year in the champioship but there is also the chance to accomplish something extraordinary.
For example Hyndman already plays for his national team. If he becomes a great player everyone will say: thank you fulham.
I don't think anyone convinced anyone about option 2, since your option 2 was not available
It might have existed if we'd had a nucleus of players remaining from last season, as was the case with both Cardiff and Norwich, but our squad was so past it's sell by date that there was effectively nothing to add some quality signing to
The only younger players we had were those emerging from the academy
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 05, 2014, 07:00:40 AM
Unfortunately, While Magath is in charge, it will all end in tears.
Really - tears of joy?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 05, 2014, 07:00:40 AM
Unfortunately, While Magath is in charge, it will all end in tears.
I agree that while the current manager remains in place it is overwhelmingly likely that it will end in the bitter tears of failure. Not because the young players are not capable but because he is not the right man for the job.
Quote from: Roberty on September 05, 2014, 09:11:39 AM
Quote from: Frank on September 04, 2014, 07:19:48 PM
There were two options for the season 14/15:
1. Let the young players play so that they become top players or
2. invest heavily and go for promotion
I think Felix convinced Mr. Khan to choose the first option. The decision for this option has nothing to do with money. This option includes the high risk of staying another year in the champioship but there is also the chance to accomplish something extraordinary.
For example Hyndman already plays for his national team. If he becomes a great player everyone will say: thank you fulham.
I don't think anyone convinced anyone about option 2, since your option 2 was not available
It might have existed if we'd had a nucleus of players remaining from last season, as was the case with both Cardiff and Norwich, but our squad was so past it's sell by date that there was effectively nothing to add some quality signing to
The only younger players we had were those emerging from the academy
IMO they made the decision for option one at the end of last season. They decided that from the existing team only players are allowed to stay who accept a pay cut. Nearly all players didn't want a pay cut and they left. I think Rodders has accepted a pay cut now so he stays and will play.
I am sure if Felix had asked for more money to sign good players Mr Khan wouldn't have said no. If you badly want promotion it makes no sense to sign a top striker and then not also sign a top midlieder and a top defender.
I think Felix will only be sacked if there is the danger of going down to League One.
Quote from: Snibbo on September 05, 2014, 04:02:17 AM
Lazy journalism. Have a pot shot at silly old Fulham by recycling old material.
Fancy getting rid of a lot of experienced players (doesn't mention how crap they performed last season) and replacing them with youngsters (plus some quality experienced players like Bodurov).
Fancy signing last years Championship top scorer and his strike partner. Doomed.
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Quote from: Baszab on September 04, 2014, 09:34:43 PM
http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2017840/felix-magath-philosophy-behind-fulhams-championship-struggles (http://www.espnfc.com/blog/espn-fc-united-blog/68/post/2017840/felix-magath-philosophy-behind-fulhams-championship-struggles)
Well that is a succinct review of where we are.
I know that there are a few people that seem incapable of being critical of magath (just as so many supported Jol for so long) are using the tired cliche of 'lazy journalism' to somehow try and devalue the article but the content is correct even if it says no more than we already know. But articles like this are meant for people that are not so well versed as we are as to why we are in the predicament we are in.
The old football chant hurled at referees comes to mind when i think about magath's management of football and it goes 'you don't know what you're doing.'
he may have been successful in his previous career but currently he ain't winning any beauty contests.
