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Title: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: RidgeRider on October 19, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
My vote goes to Ryan Shawcross

Just watched him push a guy from behind and try and kick him in the head from behind and then 30 secs later wrestle a player to the ground on a corner. Got a yellow for that one.

Since I don't watch him much, I forgot how dirty he is

Any others?
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: Barrett487 on October 19, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on October 19, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
My vote goes to Ryan Shawcross

Just watched him push a guy from behind and try and kick him in the head from behind and then 30 secs later wrestle a player to the ground on a corner. Got a yellow for that one.

Since I don't watch him much, I forgot how dirty he is

Any others?

Michael Brown's still mugging people at Port Vale i think.
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Post by: love4ffc on October 19, 2014, 05:40:07 PM
Ivanovic is one of the tops for me
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: RidgeRider on October 19, 2014, 06:14:57 PM
I've heard Snodgrass mentioned before but I haven't watched him much

Anyone playing for Mick McCarthy   063.gif
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: Wingnut on October 19, 2014, 06:25:02 PM
Is El Hadji Diouf still about?
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: fulhamben on October 19, 2014, 06:33:08 PM
not in england, but pyuol at barca could have been sent off at every corner they ever defended
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: Forever Fulham on October 19, 2014, 06:50:49 PM
I'm with you on Shawcross.  Detest that player.   I think he rather enjoys roughing up opponents when straight defending, which he's capable of doing, will suffice.  No place for that behavior.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: Holders on October 19, 2014, 06:57:32 PM
That Morrison who played for Man City comes to mind but I expect he's retired now.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on October 19, 2014, 06:59:44 PM
It has to be shawcross, he's a thug.

Players like cattermole end up with a poorer card record but that's because he loses his head to often. With shawcross its a consistant style of cheating. Im with fulhamforever, I detest him.

I used to think it was pulis that was behind it but it appears to just be the way he is.

Michael brown is up there for all time worst, he's Fulham's worst ever captain based on how he
played the game. I'm ashamed he played for us.

Kevin davies was bad too, basiscally anyone who played for Bolton in the noughties and anyone for stoke since with every Mick McCarthy team included.

Karl henry! Michael ball for man city, that elbow on mendes! There's so many
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: bobbo on October 19, 2014, 07:18:41 PM
Billy Bremner had a lot to answer for
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: MGBadrock on October 19, 2014, 07:21:57 PM
Karl Henry is another nasty one. Kevin Muscat from a few years ago was disgusting.

But Shawcross is a true thug, in fact most of the Stoke players are that way. God, I hate Stoke so much.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: Jem on October 19, 2014, 07:29:57 PM
Michael Browns headbutt in Alonso was one of the most embarrassing things I have witnessed at Craven Cottage. Karl Henry is also a despicable player.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: Northern Cottager on October 19, 2014, 07:30:36 PM
Agree with Shawcross. He's been a thug in the Prem and robbing a livign all his career. Got found out massively in his cameo for England. That N'Zonzi's a coward as well, the one who hit Ruiz I believe? Both scum.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: WhiteJC on October 19, 2014, 07:39:12 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on October 19, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on October 19, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
My vote goes to Ryan Shawcross

Just watched him push a guy from behind and try and kick him in the head from behind and then 30 secs later wrestle a player to the ground on a corner. Got a yellow for that one.

Since I don't watch him much, I forgot how dirty he is

Any others?

Michael Brown's still mugging people at Port Vale i think.

my vote  :54:
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: Barrett487 on October 19, 2014, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: MGBadrock on October 19, 2014, 07:21:57 PM
Karl Henry is another nasty one. Kevin Muscat from a few years ago was disgusting.

But Shawcross is a true thug, in fact most of the Stoke players are that way. God, I hate Stoke so much.

Don't forget Charlie Adam as well... typical Stoke. Robert Huth's no angel either!

Having said that, the Stoke fans were brill last year when we visited.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: Skatzoffc on October 19, 2014, 09:35:48 PM
For maliciousness, I could go for Shawcross, Nzonzi or Adam. But for getting away with continuous fouling in every PL game I've seen him in,  I'd have to go for Liverpool's Martin Skyrtel.

I just cannot believe he has gotten away with it for so long.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: epsomraver on October 19, 2014, 09:39:00 PM
On the BBC tonight they are talking up Shawcross for England fp.gif
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: HatterDon on October 19, 2014, 09:52:45 PM
Quote from: WhiteJC on October 19, 2014, 07:39:12 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on October 19, 2014, 05:03:39 PM
Quote from: RidgeRider on October 19, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
My vote goes to Ryan Shawcross

Just watched him push a guy from behind and try and kick him in the head from behind and then 30 secs later wrestle a player to the ground on a corner. Got a yellow for that one.

Since I don't watch him much, I forgot how dirty he is

Any others?

Michael Brown's still mugging people at Port Vale i think.

my vote  :54:

Yep, as long as he's still suiting up anywhere, he's #1. What an embarrassment to Fulham's history was his time here.

World-wide: Daniel DiRossi is absolute garbage thuggery embodied.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: RidgeRider on October 19, 2014, 10:06:59 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on October 19, 2014, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: MGBadrock on October 19, 2014, 07:21:57 PM
Karl Henry is another nasty one. Kevin Muscat from a few years ago was disgusting.

But Shawcross is a true thug, in fact most of the Stoke players are that way. God, I hate Stoke so much.

Don't forget Charlie Adam as well... typical Stoke. Robert Huth's no angel either!

Having said that, the Stoke fans were brill last year when we visited.

forgot about Huth, good call...same mold as Shawcross
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on October 19, 2014, 10:11:05 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on October 19, 2014, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: MGBadrock on October 19, 2014, 07:21:57 PM
Karl Henry is another nasty one. Kevin Muscat from a few years ago was disgusting.

But Shawcross is a true thug, in fact most of the Stoke players are that way. God, I hate Stoke so much.

Don't forget Charlie Adam as well... typical Stoke. Robert Huth's no angel either!

Having said that, the Stoke fans were brill last year when we visited.


I was gob smacked by the stoke fans reaction. They even stayed after the game to clap us off on the coaches, very strange feeling because I hate them but in that moment I couldn't.

They are still probably the club I dislike the most without needing to, by that I mean a rival or real reason but in that moment they were incredible.

..........still cant stand them though!!
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: bog on October 20, 2014, 09:38:56 AM
Ben Thatcher and Kevin Muscat.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: OdecaMynoT on October 20, 2014, 10:07:33 AM
Quote from: RidgeRider on October 19, 2014, 04:36:25 PM
My vote goes to Ryan Shawcross

Just watched him push a guy from behind and try and kick him in the head from behind and then 30 secs later wrestle a player to the ground on a corner. Got a yellow for that one.

Since I don't watch him much, I forgot how dirty he is

Any others?
:plus one:

Fernandinho can dish it out too. Amazed he stayed on the pitch during the WC. He really did a job on Rodriguez.(Brazil v Columbia)
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: cmg on October 20, 2014, 10:29:42 AM

"Huh, they're just a bunch of ballerinas." - Claudio Gentile
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: Delboy on October 20, 2014, 11:27:37 AM
Kevin Nolan has been at it for years and is right up there.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: twang on October 20, 2014, 12:27:01 PM
Has to be Muscat.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: cmg on October 20, 2014, 12:51:09 PM

Because football doesn't exist outside the Premier League, it's a bit difficult to find comparative yellow card figures.

Kevin Muscat is coaching in Oz at present (exactly what he is coaching I dread to think) - he gathered 132 yellow cards (+12 reds), but our Michael Brown is still going strong on 137 (+7 reds). This may be fewer than he deserves judging from Neville's remark (he was no shrinking violet himself) the last time I saw Brown on TV, "That's his thirty-seventh foul and he's only just got booked."
Muscat looked more frightening, though.

Our own St. Scotty is quite high up the PL list with 92 and a few more added so far this season.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: TheDaddy on October 20, 2014, 03:18:01 PM
Gone but not forgotten ,Bites,Dives , pulls hair Luis Suarez top 10 dirty moments 2013 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIUcYxy3fb8#ws)
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: Nick Bateman on October 20, 2014, 05:46:41 PM
Chet Tiote, David Luiz; Muscat was the worst, but Shawcross deserves a current dishonourable mention.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: rogerpbackinMidEastUS on October 20, 2014, 06:35:07 PM
Dare I mention our own   Amourbieta   ?
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: Peppo on October 20, 2014, 06:46:22 PM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on October 20, 2014, 06:35:07 PM
Dare I mention our own   Amourbieta   ?
he managed to put a challenge in?
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: twang on October 21, 2014, 07:43:47 AM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on October 20, 2014, 06:35:07 PM
Dare I mention our own   Amourbieta   ?

Clumsy, definitely. But not dirty.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: RaySmith on October 21, 2014, 07:53:43 AM
Quote from: Barrett487 on October 19, 2014, 09:29:32 PM
Quote from: MGBadrock on October 19, 2014, 07:21:57 PM
Karl Henry is another nasty one. Kevin Muscat from a few years ago was disgusting.

But Shawcross is a true thug, in fact most of the Stoke players are that way. God, I hate Stoke so much.

Don't forget Charlie Adam as well... typical Stoke. Robert Huth's no angel either!

Having said that, the Stoke fans were brill last year when we visited.

I was impressed with them - chatting with some  before the game in a pub next to the ground - and their standing ovation to us fans at the end.

Bit different to my recent away visit to Brum -drinking in a pub near the ground I sensed it was better to keep my mouth shut, and one of them tried to have a go at me outside after the game.
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: RaySmith on October 21, 2014, 08:05:20 AM
Quote from: Peppo on October 20, 2014, 06:46:22 PM
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on October 20, 2014, 06:35:07 PM
Dare I mention our own   Amourbieta   ?
he managed to put a challenge in?

Amor isn't dirty just enthusiastic and committed.

I remember the days of Norman 'bite yer legs' Hunter, and Ron 'Chopper' Harris, and Peter Storey of Arsenal double winners who ended up plying his trade with Fulham. Prior to him we had Bobby Keetch, who could put in some 'tasty' tackles.

In those days every team needed its enforcer, but today most of them would be sent off after five minutes if they played like they did.

It's probably better that the game has been cleaned up, but has it gone too far the other way?

Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: cmg on October 21, 2014, 10:08:51 AM

I'd love to be able to see one of today's posing jesters, somebody mentioned Suarez earlier, against one of the 'enforcers' of yesterday. Bobby Keetch would have read his fortune for him quite nicely. There's a superb clip on Youtube, Fulham v Manchester United 1964 I think, where Keetch demonstrates how to discourage an opponent with two monumental tackles on David Sadler (an England international cetr-half himself, but often played at centre-forward) in the first couple of minutes - Sadler shows no interest for the rest of the game.

Gentile was a vicious, thuggish, cynical bastard of a player, but Suarez wouldn't last twenty minutes against him. He'd be off in tears or possibly dead (you wouldn't bite Gentile and live - he was probably toxic anyway.)
Title: Re: NFR - Dirtiest player playing in England
Post by: Jims Dentist on October 21, 2014, 01:13:28 PM
Agree about Nolan.
Skirtell needs a mention, he turns every corner into a wrestling match.
One from our past was Paul Went, good centre half, but new how to dish it out.