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Title: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: YoungsBitter on March 01, 2015, 07:13:47 AM
There has been a display of that for months, a half of great football followed by an abject display; a great 60 mins bookending by two terrible defensive errors. So as much as everyone has been frustrated the reality is we have been the 'almost' great side of this season. Compare us this season with last 2 - when we are on song! Sadly today was one of few instances when we were on song for 90 mins.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: zschwartz on March 01, 2015, 08:16:57 AM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on March 01, 2015, 07:13:47 AM
There has been a display of that for months, a half of great football followed by an abject display; a great 60 mins bookending by two terrible defensive errors. So as much as everyone has been frustrated the reality is we have been the 'almost' great side of this season. Compare us this season with last 2 - when we are on song! Sadly today was one of few instances when we were on song for 90 mins.
agreed... quite a few frustrating errors, lapses, these things add up. it's difficult. 'almost' is the right word. the players are more or less there but making them gel as a team is the problem. yes, sometimes it takes years if you have the benefit of time and players who also acknowledge the potential for something great. I like kit and i like kahn... i liked muelensteen also... incessantly changing managers is going to do more harm than good. but there would be names that I would gladly consider if we're pushed into some panic-bounce scenario. What's roy hodgson up to lately?
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: VicHalomsLovechild on March 01, 2015, 08:29:44 AM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on March 01, 2015, 07:13:47 AM
There has been a display of that for months, a half of great football followed by an abject display; a great 60 mins bookending by two terrible defensive errors. So as much as everyone has been frustrated the reality is we have been the 'almost' great side of this season. Compare us this season with last 2 - when we are on song! Sadly today was one of few instances when we were on song for 90 mins.

I think it a little unfair to blame the defence. No midfield and little cover for the fullback has meant constant pressure on the backline plus strikers who don't strike. I'd argue that our back four and the goalie had been responsible for more of our victories than the midfield or forwards by keeping us in games we should of been losing.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: colinwhite on March 01, 2015, 08:43:17 AM
I agree with macclaren Mincey ,but being able to beat anybody doesn't mean your consistent . Thats down to both kit and the players . We lack height at both ends of the pitch , though Kit doesn't fancy Burn or Smith . We have no balance with Hugo . Woodrow offers much more and i think that showed today .

Kit is not a world beater but has done  a decent job , with a disjointed squad , and although we aren't safe yet look a lot healthier than when he took over . . The worrying thing is that this issue has yet to be addressed despite a transfer window .
I think you can rest at ease that Kit will not remain in charge beyond the end of the season , but in the meantime  he deserves our support .
Who we get in is anybody's guess.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Twig on March 01, 2015, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?

I think that most managers of a table topping team would say something similar to take the pressure off a bit.  What do you expect, "we lost to a team of donkeys who I thought we would trample all over"?
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?

I think that most managers of a table topping team would say something similar to take the pressure off a bit.  What do you expect, "we lost to a team of donkeys who I thought we would trample all over"?

Your wrong actually, as everytime McClaren gets interviewed he is I believe
Honest in his opinions..
He has said similar and slagged his own players when not doing so well against
top sides..
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: westcliff white on March 01, 2015, 09:17:30 AM
McClaren also said yesterday his team didn't play well and we took advantage.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: ffc73 on March 01, 2015, 09:23:08 AM
McLaren is not wrong in what he says.  With the players we have we should be higher up the table and that is down to both our players and our manager

Equally though I do not recall him saying that when we were hammered 1-5 and 2-5 earlier this season.

I do not know, or care too much, but he may have rotated his squad yesterday and was caught by us playing to our potential.  The subs he made, bringing on 4, 5 & 11, were all stand out players in our earlier games against them & also, due to injuries, Derby finished the game without a recognised no.9 on the pitch.

As I said, do not really care about Derby as I still think they will be automatically promoted.  We won and importantly Millwall lost.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 09:23:09 AM
Nobody is answering the question really.
So I make it simple for some of you, his comments in a way were I thought
a little dig at Kit, and with these players we should  be higher up the league.
Still awaiting certain posters who all season have stated the players for our faults,saying
they not good enough, and nobody could do better with them..
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: westcliff white on March 01, 2015, 09:27:18 AM
I don't think he was having a dig, just trying to explain why his team lost by saying they played a decent team and lost as his team were having an off day. that's how I took the interview I saw
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: fulhamben on March 01, 2015, 09:28:08 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 09:23:09 AM
Nobody is answering the question really.
So I make it simple for some of you, his comments in a way were I thought
a little dig at Kit, and with these players we should  be higher up the league.
Still awaiting certain posters who all season have stated the players for our faults,saying
they not good enough, and nobody could do better with them..
yes i thought it was a bit of a dig, and he also made out like we just defended for our lives. havent seen the stats, but we looked like we created all the good chances too
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: westcliff white on March 01, 2015, 09:33:31 AM
they didnt have a shot on target till the 69th minute apparently
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: dannyboi-ffc on March 01, 2015, 09:51:26 AM
I didn't see it as a dig, not really sure how to take it to be honest. It could be a dig at kit which would be very petty and spiteful or it could be a compliment.

Managers say it all the time when there's an upset, "I can't believe they are bottom. They're too good to go down"

As for the question, I definitely don't think magath or kit have been anywhere near good enough overall for the squad we have. That doesn't mean I think our squad is fantastic but I do think saying our squad is terrible is just an excuse to bide kit more time.

There's no way we should be this low looking down anyway, maybe midtable looking up.  

I'm still not a fan of kit and want a change in the summer but credit where it's due. He finally changed things whether it was forced or not with hugo being out but it worked. The key now will be whether we see more of the same or revert back to the dross before yesterday.

Woodrow has got to play with smith and dembele on the bench. Hugo dropped completely
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 09:59:51 AM
Good Answer Danny... :clap_hands:
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: HV71 on March 01, 2015, 10:17:27 AM
Spot on again Danny
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: MasterHaynes on March 01, 2015, 10:18:38 AM
Quote from: dannyboi-ffc on March 01, 2015, 09:51:26 AM
The key now will be whether we see more of the same or revert back to the dross before yesterday.
Woodrow has got to play with smith and dembele on the bench. Hugo dropped completely
spot on and we should not renew hiscontract either
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: snarks on March 01, 2015, 10:41:55 AM
I don't think you drop Hugo completely, the same way that 1 good 90 minute performance means a turn around for the team.

He should definitely stick with the same team (injuries permitting) for the next couple of games and as for the bench well I will leave that to him. I think there was better balance with kav parker and Tunni, after LVC's injury
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Nero on March 01, 2015, 10:43:04 AM
Perhaps he knows all his good players are going to leave at the end of the season after they were asked for 1 more season after getting so close last year and he's wanting to jump ship to Fulham and saying how he would have them nearer the top end of the table.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: One Martin Thomas on March 01, 2015, 11:43:57 AM
McClaren's right.  Those players should be no where near the bottom of the league.  The players owe us a lot more than they are giving us right now.  It is not disrespectful, but a simple fact.  We've loaned out more talent than a lot of Championship clubs can put on the pitch.

I also agree with Dannyboi !
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Lighthouse on March 01, 2015, 11:56:09 AM
Utter tosh. The players and squad are the worse squad we have had in years. The inconsistency is a sign that they simply are not ready. We have a few good players within that squad who, on a good day, can drag the rest along.

The Derby manager has just seen his team beaten. So he made these nice comments. On our day we are very good. But because we don't have many days, we have to thank the discipline of our new manager in sticking with the side and trying to find a way through our poor form of late.

So one comment and one performance does not change the simple fact. We badly need a few better players. But we may be good enough to stay up and on a good run reach and end up half way.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: RaySmith on March 01, 2015, 12:27:41 PM
McClaren is also covering himself- 'we lost to a team of Prem quality players.'

But there is much quality and potential in our squad - just starting to be fulfilled at the senior level - and Kit is doing a good job managing this potential and bringing it on.

We are a long from storming the division, but there have been many fine performances, including yesterday's, that augur well for the future.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Bracken White on March 01, 2015, 12:31:26 PM
Absolutely no dig from McClaren - or excuses - said it as he saw it. And the better team won, no question or dispute. No daft Fulhamish 'off-day' syndrome either - didn't allow them to play & great tactics well executed.
Woodrow/Rodallega - latter has what 11 goals & still the vitriol pours in. For me, Woodrow to start he's earnt it - bench? Definitely Rodallega - but there's Dembele, Smith & Taggart ... how healthy is that. Even Dembele chased and looked dangerous yesterday - so a good place to be striker-wise. Kit to go? Not even on the cards.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Robbie on March 01, 2015, 12:32:54 PM
I think it has just taken a long time for this squad to get over the nervous breakdown of relegation and almost complete squad rotation.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Bracken White on March 01, 2015, 12:45:39 PM
And Magath meglamania perhaps?
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Fernhurst on March 01, 2015, 12:56:09 PM
"Ruiz, McCormack and Parker caused us problems in the middle. Fifth-bottom with the quality they have got? And we are expected to come here and win games. It's always going to be difficult."



It seemed crystal to me yesterday these 3 played at the very top their game and we still require 4 or 5 of similar quality to progress.
Yesterday was an exception , although I would like to think Tuesday's team will replicate yesterday's result at Watford I will be surprised if their power and pace does not see them through.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 12:57:38 PM
Quote from: Bracken White on March 01, 2015, 12:31:26 PM
Absolutely no dig from McClaren - or excuses - said it as he saw it. And the better team won, no question or dispute. No daft Fulhamish 'off-day' syndrome either - didn't allow them to play & great tactics well executed.
Woodrow/Rodallega - latter has what 11 goals & still the vitriol pours in. For me, Woodrow to start he's earnt it - bench? Definitely Rodallega - but there's Dembele, Smith & Taggart ... how healthy is that. Even Dembele chased and looked dangerous yesterday - so a good place to be striker-wise. Kit to go? Not even on the cards.

He might have 11 goals but I should think if Cauley or Smith had started every game
like him they would have that total.....
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Twig on March 01, 2015, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?

I think that most managers of a table topping team would say something similar to take the pressure off a bit.  What do you expect, "we lost to a team of donkeys who I thought we would trample all over"?

Your wrong actually, as everytime McClaren gets interviewed he is I believe
Honest in his opinions..
He has said similar and slagged his own players when not doing so well against
top sides..

You're wrong actually (not your).  It is not about what he said about his own players it is what he says about the opposition and my point was that he is hardly likely to slag off the opposition.  He may or may not be relatively honest about his own players' performance but that was not the point of your post.  I was simply trying to illustrate that another manager's public pronouncement on the quality of our squad is hardly compelling evidence either way.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 01:04:04 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on March 01, 2015, 11:56:09 AM
Utter tosh. The players and squad are the worse squad we have had in years. The inconsistency is a sign that they simply are not ready. We have a few good players within that squad who, on a good day, can drag the rest along.

The Derby manager has just seen his team beaten. So he made these nice comments. On our day we are very good. But because we don't have many days, we have to thank the discipline of our new manager in sticking with the side and trying to find a way through our poor form of late.

So one comment and one performance does not change the simple fact. We badly need a few better players. But we may be good enough to stay up and on a good run reach and end up half way.

Whats Utter Tosh?
McClarens comments or my thread on it?.... :023:
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Ordar on March 01, 2015, 01:07:45 PM
I thought McClaren was extremely graceful in defeat. Everything he said was fair. He's a great manager, regardless of the England fiasco, and Derby will win the league as many thought before the season.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?

I think that most managers of a table topping team would say something similar to take the pressure off a bit.  What do you expect, "we lost to a team of donkeys who I thought we would trample all over"?

Your wrong actually, as everytime McClaren gets interviewed he is I believe
Honest in his opinions..
He has said similar and slagged his own players when not doing so well against
top sides..

You're wrong actually (not your).  It is not about what he said about his own players it is what he says about the opposition and my point was that he is hardly likely to slag off the opposition.  He may or may not be relatively honest about his own players' performance but that was not the point of your post.  I was simply trying to illustrate that another manager's public pronouncement on the quality of our squad is hardly compelling evidence either way.

You're our Your what you picking up on a mistake for...
What effin diff does it make...Grow up you d...and you want to use a comma now
and again if your picking on irrelevant things..F......Hillarious
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on March 01, 2015, 01:31:55 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?

Rather than interpret his comments as being about Kit it is just as easy to interpret them as about the performance of the players.

We haven't seen anywhere near the individual and collective effort we saw yesterday for quite some time. The players have been clearly under-performing whatever Kit's contribution.

The interpretation of McClaren's comments depends on your analysis/prejudice.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: ScalleysDad on March 01, 2015, 03:00:40 PM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on March 01, 2015, 01:31:55 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?

Rather than interpret his comments as being about Kit it is just as easy to interpret them as about the performance of the players.

We haven't seen anywhere near the individual and collective effort we saw yesterday for quite some time. The players have been clearly under-performing whatever Kit's contribution.

The interpretation of McClaren's comments depends on your analysis/prejudice.


Exactly. The thread is getting a bit messy now but from the time of the original post there have been match reports, stats have been produced and the fog has cleared. Derby have been quoted as being "lacklustre" and putting in a poor performance as a team but both full backs were actually singled out and withdrawn. Did McLaren pick up on this immediately and defused the criticism lining up for him by hailing our experienced Premiership stars. Define experience any way you want but would that would be Parker then? For the rest it was a flirtation.
Certainly the original question regarding the players has a fair amount of evidence to dissect. We have avoided lacklustre in favour of inept, woeful and downright poor so we have had every right to have a go at them, those on the pitch, because the performances have been there for all to see. Should we have criticised Kit? Of course we should as the formation, tactics and stubbornness to change has also been there to see. What do we do simply ignore it all? Is the win yesterday down to a sudden change in attitude and application or was it simply down to a different forward outlet and Parker giving a lesson to the young pretenders? The big No.44 looked like the attacker he is supposed to be and Kavanagh protecting Staf is so long overdue its frightening. Kav for Tunnicliffe any day of the week and is the Fofana love in finally over? Do we observe all this without comment? The team did really well yesterday. The bench did their job as well. Ask the same question after the trips to Yorkshire.

As a slight aside having read all the match reports I am amazed how many of the Derby starlets are not theirs. That might kick them hard where it hurts if they all go back to their parent clubs.  
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Burt on March 01, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?

I think that most managers of a table topping team would say something similar to take the pressure off a bit.  What do you expect, "we lost to a team of donkeys who I thought we would trample all over"?

Your wrong actually, as everytime McClaren gets interviewed he is I believe
Honest in his opinions..
He has said similar and slagged his own players when not doing so well against
top sides..

You're wrong actually (not your).  It is not about what he said about his own players it is what he says about the opposition and my point was that he is hardly likely to slag off the opposition.  He may or may not be relatively honest about his own players' performance but that was not the point of your post.  I was simply trying to illustrate that another manager's public pronouncement on the quality of our squad is hardly compelling evidence either way.

You're our Your what you picking up on a mistake for...
What effin diff does it make...Grow up you d...and you want to use a comma now
and again if your picking on irrelevant things..F......Hillarious

Less of the bad language and abuse please...
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 03:19:03 PM
Sorry Burt I Shouldnt have taken the bait.. fp.gif
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Twig on March 01, 2015, 03:46:48 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?

I think that most managers of a table topping team would say something similar to take the pressure off a bit.  What do you expect, "we lost to a team of donkeys who I thought we would trample all over"?

Your wrong actually, as everytime McClaren gets interviewed he is I believe
Honest in his opinions..
He has said similar and slagged his own players when not doing so well against
top sides..

You're wrong actually (not your).  It is not about what he said about his own players it is what he says about the opposition and my point was that he is hardly likely to slag off the opposition.  He may or may not be relatively honest about his own players' performance but that was not the point of your post.  I was simply trying to illustrate that another manager's public pronouncement on the quality of our squad is hardly compelling evidence either way.

You're our Your what you picking up on a mistake for...
What effin diff does it make...Grow up you d...and you want to use a comma now
and again if your picking on irrelevant things..F......Hillarious

How very adult resorting to swearing when I disagree with you.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Twig on March 01, 2015, 03:50:47 PM
Quote from: Burt on March 01, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?

I think that most managers of a table topping team would say something similar to take the pressure off a bit.  What do you expect, "we lost to a team of donkeys who I thought we would trample all over"?

Your wrong actually, as everytime McClaren gets interviewed he is I believe
Honest in his opinions..
He has said similar and slagged his own players when not doing so well against
top sides..

You're wrong actually (not your).  It is not about what he said about his own players it is what he says about the opposition and my point was that he is hardly likely to slag off the opposition.  He may or may not be relatively honest about his own players' performance but that was not the point of your post.  I was simply trying to illustrate that another manager's public pronouncement on the quality of our squad is hardly compelling evidence either way.

You're our Your what you picking up on a mistake for...
What effin diff does it make...Grow up you d...and you want to use a comma now
and again if your picking on irrelevant things..F......Hillarious

Less of the bad language and abuse please...

By the way, the reason I picked up on your mistake, and I apologise, was that you asked "what do you think..." and when I offered my opinion you retorted with "your wrong" sic.  If you want an opinion, don't then tell me my opinion is wrong.
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Skatzoffc on March 01, 2015, 03:51:52 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?

I think that most managers of a table topping team would say something similar to take the pressure off a bit.  What do you expect, "we lost to a team of donkeys who I thought we would trample all over"?

Agreed.

He looked pretty pee'd off to me.
I think he was trying to detract from his team being shockingly bad on the day, compared to their recent form.

Great win tho.
lol
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 04:01:51 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 03:50:47 PM
Quote from: Burt on March 01, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?

I think that most managers of a table topping team would say something similar to take the pressure off a bit.  What do you expect, "we lost to a team of donkeys who I thought we would trample all over"?

Your wrong actually, as everytime McClaren gets interviewed he is I believe
Honest in his opinions..
He has said similar and slagged his own players when not doing so well against
top sides..

You're wrong actually (not your).  It is not about what he said about his own players it is what he says about the opposition and my point was that he is hardly likely to slag off the opposition.  He may or may not be relatively honest about his own players' performance but that was not the point of your post.  I was simply trying to illustrate that another manager's public pronouncement on the quality of our squad is hardly compelling evidence either way.

You're our Your what you picking up on a mistake for...
What effin diff does it make...Grow up you d...and you want to use a comma now
and again if your picking on irrelevant things..F......Hillarious

Less of the bad language and abuse please...

By the way, the reason I picked up on your mistake, and I apologise, was that you asked "what do you think..." and when I offered my opinion you retorted with "your wrong" sic.  If you want an opinion, don't then tell me my opinion is wrong.

No you were being clever...Like I said check for commas when you
post as your not as clever as you think.
Personally I type this fast on my phone so I dont really care if it comes
Out not perfect (christ some on here cant spell)...Blah Blah Blah..
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Twig on March 01, 2015, 04:49:38 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 04:01:51 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 03:50:47 PM
Quote from: Burt on March 01, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?

I think that most managers of a table topping team would say something similar to take the pressure off a bit.  What do you expect, "we lost to a team of donkeys who I thought we would trample all over"?

Your wrong actually, as everytime McClaren gets interviewed he is I believe
Honest in his opinions..
He has said similar and slagged his own players when not doing so well against
top sides..

You're wrong actually (not your).  It is not about what he said about his own players it is what he says about the opposition and my point was that he is hardly likely to slag off the opposition.  He may or may not be relatively honest about his own players' performance but that was not the point of your post.  I was simply trying to illustrate that another manager's public pronouncement on the quality of our squad is hardly compelling evidence either way.

You're our Your what you picking up on a mistake for...
What effin diff does it make...Grow up you d...and you want to use a comma now
and again if your picking on irrelevant things..F......Hillarious

Less of the bad language and abuse please...

By the way, the reason I picked up on your mistake, and I apologise, was that you asked "what do you think..." and when I offered my opinion you retorted with "your wrong" sic.  If you want an opinion, don't then tell me my opinion is wrong.

No you were being clever...Like I said check for commas when you
post as your not as clever as you think.
Personally I type this fast on my phone so I dont really care if it comes
Out not perfect (christ some on here cant spell)...Blah Blah Blah..


I have no idea what you are talking about. You are welcome to disagree with my opinion, but I offered it in good faith as your post requested and you simply told me point blank I was wrong.  But anyway, no apology from you for your disgraceful language then.  Big man aren't you?
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: ScalleysDad on March 01, 2015, 05:41:40 PM
There is quite a bit of insightful stuff in this thread which started off by posing a half decent point of view and then leaving an open question. Now it is like somebody has found a pram and somebody else has all the toys.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzzzzz
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Max Headroom on March 01, 2015, 05:50:40 PM
Yawn
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:55:31 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 04:49:38 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 04:01:51 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 03:50:47 PM
Quote from: Burt on March 01, 2015, 03:08:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 01:09:20 PM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 12:59:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 09:14:59 AM
Quote from: Twig on March 01, 2015, 09:11:31 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on March 01, 2015, 06:59:54 AM
"Cant understand why Fulham are in the position they are."
"WITH THE PLAYERS THEY HAVE, THEY CAN BEAT ANYBODY."
So to the people on here who think our position is down to the players and
not Kit, what do you think of McClarens Comments?

I think that most managers of a table topping team would say something similar to take the pressure off a bit.  What do you expect, "we lost to a team of donkeys who I thought we would trample all over"?

Your wrong actually, as everytime McClaren gets interviewed he is I believe
Honest in his opinions..
He has said similar and slagged his own players when not doing so well against
top sides..

You're wrong actually (not your).  It is not about what he said about his own players it is what he says about the opposition and my point was that he is hardly likely to slag off the opposition.  He may or may not be relatively honest about his own players' performance but that was not the point of your post.  I was simply trying to illustrate that another manager's public pronouncement on the quality of our squad is hardly compelling evidence either way.

You're our Your what you picking up on a mistake for...
What effin diff does it make...Grow up you d...and you want to use a comma now
and again if your picking on irrelevant things..F......Hillarious

Less of the bad language and abuse please...

By the way, the reason I picked up on your mistake, and I apologise, was that you asked "what do you think..." and when I offered my opinion you retorted with "your wrong" sic.  If you want an opinion, don't then tell me my opinion is wrong.

No you were being clever...Like I said check for commas when you
post as your not as clever as you think.
Personally I type this fast on my phone so I dont really care if it comes
Out not perfect (christ some on here cant spell)...Blah Blah Blah..


I have no idea what you are talking about. You are welcome to disagree with my opinion, but I offered it in good faith as your post requested and you simply told me point blank I was wrong.  But anyway, no apology from you for your disgraceful language then.  Big man aren't you?

I SPELL IT OUT IN CAPITALS SHALL I.
YOU PASSED A SARCASTIC REMARK ABOUT ME PRINTING "YOUR" INSTEAD OF
"YOU'RE"...So I said check your posts for commas before you slag other peoples Grammar.
Simples, and read the posts I appologised to Burt.
End off so go away as I have to collect all my toys up...
Oh I forgot to add, I am a big man as you say 6ft 3ins in my slippers, so there..Boo Boo Boo
Title: Re: Steve McClarens Comments
Post by: Artful Dodger on March 01, 2015, 06:58:17 PM
Personally, I think McLaren has fallen in to the trap of 'we were a premier league team last year so we must still have premier league players' or is at least using is an excuse for getting a good hiding. As Lighthouse pointed out, all our premier league players left (bar Parker) and in came a team of youngsters and journeymen foreigners and I just don't see a team good enough to be at the top of the championship. Yes we have 3 or 4 quality players but that is not enough to challenge for promotion.