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Title: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: FFCpmd on February 24, 2016, 09:04:32 PM

....something else he doesn't seem to be very good at!
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 24, 2016, 09:12:07 PM
Jobs for the Boys.
MOTD is always dragging Sacked managers
in as pundits..
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: love4ffc on February 25, 2016, 01:41:20 AM
I say good for him. 
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: snarks on February 25, 2016, 07:27:52 AM
Really, I mean really, you think it's OK to start a thread about a sacked manager to have a pop at him?

He always had the club's interests at heart, even if he ultimately didn't do what was required, he did a good job after mad Felix. The least he deserves is some respect. Your dislike of him, I hope is based on personal knowledge of him, having met him several times, if not it's just spiteful and unworthy.
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: Wimbledon_White on February 25, 2016, 09:54:26 AM
Quote from: snarks on February 25, 2016, 07:27:52 AM
Really, I mean really, you think it's OK to start a thread about a sacked manager to have a pop at him?

He always had the club's interests at heart, even if he ultimately didn't do what was required, he did a good job after mad Felix. The least he deserves is some respect. Your dislike of him, I hope is based on personal knowledge of him, having met him several times, if not it's just spiteful and unworthy.

You've taken words out of my mouth. I wholeheartedly agree.
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: valdeingruo on February 25, 2016, 12:52:10 PM
I would say the only manager in our recent history that deserves this kind of post is Felix Magath. If the club had been more robust in its decision making. Kit would have been asked to return to the U-21s last summer and we would still have a genuine club man with us.
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: Wimbledon_White on February 25, 2016, 01:40:31 PM
Quote from: andersons11 on February 25, 2016, 12:52:10 PM
I would say the only manager in our recent history that deserves this kind of post is Felix Magath. If the club had been more robust in its decision making. Kit would have been asked to return to the U-21s last summer and we would still have a genuine club man with us.

Or given more time to improve our fortunes this season; when he was sacked we were what 4 points off the play-offs? How many is it now? 18!
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: nose on February 25, 2016, 02:38:37 PM
we all loved kit and still do but he was the wrong man, blah blah blah... been there and said that all needs saying.

On being a pundit, good luck to him but how do they get the gig in the first place? Most of the pundits are useless and talk in TV media speak using a selection of cliches and platitudes... for experts they talk less sennse than most supporters... why bother? well obviously the tv stations think the inane drivell will keep people watching up to and after the ad break.

however they are in the main useless... never saw kit so hope he did OK
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: love4ffc on February 25, 2016, 05:28:31 PM
I have to agree with others here and say that While Kit may not have done the best job as first team manager he did always have the club's best interest at heart.  For that reason alone I respect him and would hope other fans would do the same. 

Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: Arthur on February 25, 2016, 06:17:12 PM
Quote from: snarks on February 25, 2016, 07:27:52 AM
Really, I mean really, you think it's OK to start a thread about a sacked manager to have a pop at him?

He always had the club's interests at heart, even if he ultimately didn't do what was required, he did a good job after mad Felix. The least he deserves is some respect. Your dislike of him, I hope is based on personal knowledge of him, having met him several times, if not it's just spiteful and unworthy.

As we can safely presume the O.P. saw Kit on Sky and was following the Club when Kit was our manager, the O.P's remark is clearly based on events of which he has personal knowledge. There is no necessity to have actually met Symons to form such an opinion.

You may not agree with the O.P's assessment of Kit (and were you to have called his comment a 'cheap shot', I would have agreed). To post a reply, however, that bristles with animosity towards what, I believe, most on here would regard as a mild level of criticism seems unwarranted.
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: Neil D on February 25, 2016, 07:13:33 PM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on February 25, 2016, 01:40:31 PM

Or given more time to improve our fortunes this season; when he was sacked we were what 4 points off the play-offs? How many is it now? 18!
That seems like a convincing statistic but, given the number of points played at that time,  does 18 now represent a very different picture?  Stat expert to the rescue please!
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: FFCpmd on February 25, 2016, 10:27:06 PM
No wonder some people on here give up posting, when all I get for what I thought was a light-hearted post, is abuse! Perhaps the ones who are so vitriolic towards me can tell me exactly which part of my post says that I dislike Kit? Indeed, I loved Kit as a player, and I loved him as a manager (albeit I think he was rather out of his depth as such - just my opinion, but possibly shared by others on here), and I love him as a character. I was merely expressing my opinion that having watched him, giving updates on Sky Sports is definitely not his forte (just my opinion).   

As a season ticket holder for over fifty years, I relatively recently found FOF, which I've always considered different from other club forums, in that people can express opinions in such a friendly manner. Clearly, I was mistaken.
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on February 25, 2016, 11:18:03 PM
Quote from: Arthur on February 25, 2016, 06:17:12 PM
Quote from: snarks on February 25, 2016, 07:27:52 AM
Really, I mean really, you think it's OK to start a thread about a sacked manager to have a pop at him?

He always had the club's interests at heart, even if he ultimately didn't do what was required, he did a good job after mad Felix. The least he deserves is some respect. Your dislike of him, I hope is based on personal knowledge of him, having met him several times, if not it's just spiteful and unworthy.

As we can safely presume the O.P. saw Kit on Sky and was following the Club when Kit was our manager, the O.P's remark is clearly based on events of which he has personal knowledge. There is no necessity to have actually met Symons to form such an opinion.

You may not agree with the O.P's assessment of Kit (and were you to have called his comment a 'cheap shot', I would have agreed). To post a reply, however, that bristles with animosity towards what, I believe, most on here would regard as a mild level of criticism seems unwarranted.


Criticism? There was no analysis or reasoning. It was just a pointless cheap shot.
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: Apprentice to the Maestro on February 25, 2016, 11:20:53 PM
Quote from: FFCpmd on February 25, 2016, 10:27:06 PM
No wonder some people on here give up posting, when all I get for what I thought was a light-hearted post, is abuse! Perhaps the ones who are so vitriolic towards me can tell me exactly which part of my post says that I dislike Kit? Indeed, I loved Kit as a player, and I loved him as a manager (albeit I think he was rather out of his depth as such - just my opinion, but possibly shared by others on here), and I love him as a character. I was merely expressing my opinion that having watched him, giving updates on Sky Sports is definitely not his forte (just my opinion).   

As a season ticket holder for over fifty years, I relatively recently found FOF, which I've always considered different from other club forums, in that people can express opinions in such a friendly manner. Clearly, I was mistaken.

It wasn't an opinion. It was just a cheap shot presumably in a failed attempt at humour.
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: Arthur on February 26, 2016, 03:07:09 AM
Quote from: Apprentice to the Maestro on February 25, 2016, 11:18:03 PM
Quote from: Arthur on February 25, 2016, 06:17:12 PM
As we can safely presume the O.P. saw Kit on Sky and was following the Club when Kit was our manager, the O.P's remark is clearly based on events of which he has personal knowledge. There is no necessity to have actually met Symons to form such an opinion.

You may not agree with the O.P's assessment of Kit (and were you to have called his comment a 'cheap shot', I would have agreed). To post a reply, however, that bristles with animosity towards what, I believe, most on here would regard as a mild level of criticism seems unwarranted.


Criticism? There was no analysis or reasoning. It was just a pointless cheap shot.

That there was no analysis or reasoning is clearly so. If, however, you are contesting my use of the word 'criticism' owing to the O.P's paucity of information, I do not concur.

In its most basic form, 'criticism' is the act of saying that something is bad; it is not essential for there to be a rationale.
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: Twig on February 26, 2016, 07:22:10 AM
Unnecessary, silly and disrespectful post. Let's leave it at that and move on.
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: Fulham1959 on February 26, 2016, 10:51:40 AM
Quote from: Twig on February 26, 2016, 07:22:10 AM
Unnecessary, silly and disrespectful post. Let's leave it at that and move on.

Precisely.
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: Wimbledon_White on February 26, 2016, 01:54:37 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 25, 2016, 11:17:31 PM
Quote from: Neil D on February 25, 2016, 07:13:33 PM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on February 25, 2016, 01:40:31 PM

Or given more time to improve our fortunes this season; when he was sacked we were what 4 points off the play-offs? How many is it now? 18!
That seems like a convincing statistic but, given the number of points played at that time,  does 18 now represent a very different picture?  Stat expert to the rescue please!

Well for a start we were 8 pts off the play-offs then, not 4 (and we were also only only 7 pts from the relegation zone)

And that was after 16 games so now we've played 33... Well theoretically it would equate to being about 17 pts from the playoffs now

So despite all those games with no manager we haven't really deviated from the trajectory Symons had us set on






You can prove anything with stats mate; I prefer biased conjecture.

Cheers  ;-)
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: Neil D on February 26, 2016, 02:57:37 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 25, 2016, 11:17:31 PM
Quote from: Neil D on February 25, 2016, 07:13:33 PM
Quote from: Wimbledon_White on February 25, 2016, 01:40:31 PM

Or given more time to improve our fortunes this season; when he was sacked we were what 4 points off the play-offs? How many is it now? 18!
That seems like a convincing statistic but, given the number of points played at that time,  does 18 now represent a very different picture?  Stat expert to the rescue please!

Well for a start we were 8 pts off the play-offs then, not 4 (and we were also only only 7 pts from the relegation zone)

And that was after 16 games so now we've played 33... Well theoretically it would equate to being about 17 pts from the playoffs now

So despite all those games with no manager we haven't really deviated from the trajectory Symons had us set on


That makes sense.
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: valdeingruo on February 26, 2016, 04:09:24 PM
FFCpmd, its hard to tell when a poster is attempting to be light hearted or not. It was very short and we have had a spat of short posts directly attacking players, supporters and the club in general.

The list of "Emojiis" at the bottom can usually be added and usually implies a sarcastic or fun post, rather than one made in seriousness.
Title: Re: Kit on Sky Sports News giving Champs League updates...
Post by: NogoodBoyo on February 26, 2016, 05:55:06 PM
Quote from: FFCpmd on February 24, 2016, 09:04:32 PM

....something else he doesn't seem to be very good at!

I like and liked Kit - just not as Fulham's manager.  So, I thought this post was quite funny and rather clever. 
Nogood "just to be the dictionary definition of contrary, isit" Boyo