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Title: Leicester City
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 17, 2016, 03:36:33 PM
God they got guts and passion,and down to 10
Men,that point just might win them title.
Wish our lot had same passion for the shirt.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on April 17, 2016, 03:43:01 PM
Agree with op.

As regards refereeing today. Glad he sent off vardy - it was a dive and players need to be punished. West Ham penalty - it was a foul but these incidents happen every week and are not punished. Leicester city penalty was a poor decision.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Lighthouse on April 17, 2016, 03:44:57 PM
Referee seems to have had another big influence on the game. As for Leicester showing great character. Yes indeed but a last minute penalty for that? Dear God this game I used to love is becoming a farce and a lottery as you never know what decisions a referee will make on any identical situation.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 03:45:15 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 17, 2016, 03:43:01 PM
Agree with op.

As regards refereeing today. Glad he sent off vardy - it was a dive and players need to be punished. West Ham penalty - it was a foul but these incidents happen every week and are not punished. Leicester city penalty was a poor decision.
thought ref had a stinker personally. Seen every angle and I don't see how anyone can say vardy dived. Huth should have had a pen too
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on April 17, 2016, 03:46:56 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 17, 2016, 03:44:57 PM
Referee seems to have had another big influence on the game. As for Leicester showing great character. Yes indeed but a last minute penalty for that? Dear God this game I used to love is becoming a farce and a lottery as you never know what decisions a referee will make on any identical situation.

Yes and the challenge on huth was definately a pen but ref did not give it. West Ham player was all over huth like an octopus.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 17, 2016, 03:51:48 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on April 17, 2016, 03:44:57 PM
Referee seems to have had another big influence on the game. As for Leicester showing great character. Yes indeed but a last minute penalty for that? Dear God this game I used to love is becoming a farce and a lottery as you never know what decisions a referee will make on any identical situation.

They being taught it by the coaches Im afraid
Some managers go livid if their players dont go down when touched.
Even kids are doing it..Sad.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on April 17, 2016, 04:26:13 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 03:45:15 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 17, 2016, 03:43:01 PM
Agree with op.

As regards refereeing today. Glad he sent off vardy - it was a dive and players need to be punished. West Ham penalty - it was a foul but these incidents happen every week and are not punished. Leicester city penalty was a poor decision.
thought ref had a stinker personally. Seen every angle and I don't see how anyone can say vardy dived. Huth should have had a pen too

Personally thought Vardy initiated contact and swung his legs into the defender to create the "trip", and then the over-selling of the fall was ridiculous. It was a dive.

That last gasp penalty had to have been a make-up for the missed call for Huth's penalty shout. Can't see how he didn't call that penalty. Was looking right at it.

Poor match for the ref.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on April 17, 2016, 04:26:13 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 03:45:15 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 17, 2016, 03:43:01 PM
Agree with op.

As regards refereeing today. Glad he sent off vardy - it was a dive and players need to be punished. West Ham penalty - it was a foul but these incidents happen every week and are not punished. Leicester city penalty was a poor decision.
thought ref had a stinker personally. Seen every angle and I don't see how anyone can say vardy dived. Huth should have had a pen too

Personally thought Vardy initiated contact and swung his legs into the defender to create the "trip", and then the over-selling of the fall was ridiculous. It was a dive.

That last gasp penalty had to have been a make-up for the missed call for Huth's penalty shout. Can't see how he didn't call that penalty. Was looking right at it.

Poor match for the ref.
by your own admission he initiated a trip, so how can it be a dive. Don't think there is a rule about initiatimg a trip. It was never a pen but I'm sure that there is no basis for a yellow
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Asotosyios on April 17, 2016, 05:09:51 PM
I think the second yellow card to Vardy and both penalties were absolutely right. I still have doubts about that Huth incident though.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: ToodlesMcToot on April 17, 2016, 06:33:32 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on April 17, 2016, 04:26:13 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 03:45:15 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 17, 2016, 03:43:01 PM
Agree with op.

As regards refereeing today. Glad he sent off vardy - it was a dive and players need to be punished. West Ham penalty - it was a foul but these incidents happen every week and are not punished. Leicester city penalty was a poor decision.
thought ref had a stinker personally. Seen every angle and I don't see how anyone can say vardy dived. Huth should have had a pen too

Personally thought Vardy initiated contact and swung his legs into the defender to create the "trip", and then the over-selling of the fall was ridiculous. It was a dive.

That last gasp penalty had to have been a make-up for the missed call for Huth's penalty shout. Can't see how he didn't call that penalty. Was looking right at it.

Poor match for the ref.
by your own admission he initiated a trip, so how can it be a dive. Don't think there is a rule about initiatimg a trip. It was never a pen but I'm sure that there is no basis for a yellow

You're just playing with words here. He simulated, dove, play-acted to try and draw a penalty. He stuck his own leg, unnaturally mind you, into the defender's legs to try and sell the dive. He deserved the yellow IMO. And if the details of the verbal abuse he gave the ref afterward are true, he may be in for more than just a game. Big "if" tho.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 06:52:16 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on April 17, 2016, 06:33:32 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on April 17, 2016, 04:26:13 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 03:45:15 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 17, 2016, 03:43:01 PM
Agree with op.

As regards refereeing today. Glad he sent off vardy - it was a dive and players need to be punished. West Ham penalty - it was a foul but these incidents happen every week and are not punished. Leicester city penalty was a poor decision.
thought ref had a stinker personally. Seen every angle and I don't see how anyone can say vardy dived. Huth should have had a pen too

Personally thought Vardy initiated contact and swung his legs into the defender to create the "trip", and then the over-selling of the fall was ridiculous. It was a dive.

That last gasp penalty had to have been a make-up for the missed call for Huth's penalty shout. Can't see how he didn't call that penalty. Was looking right at it.

Poor match for the ref.
by your own admission he initiated a trip, so how can it be a dive. Don't think there is a rule about initiatimg a trip. It was never a pen but I'm sure that there is no basis for a yellow

You're just playing with words here. He simulated, dove, play-acted to try and draw a penalty. He stuck his own leg, unnaturally mind you, into the defender's legs to try and sell the dive. He deserved the yellow IMO. And if the details of the verbal abuse he gave the ref afterward are true, he may be in for more than just a game. Big "if" tho.

it's not a play on words, how can it be a dive when the two players looked like they were playing drunken twister before they hit the ground.its a coming together all day long and can't be a yellow for diving. Now if there's another rule I don't know about then fine, but I don't see how it can come under the rules of diving.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: One James stannard on April 17, 2016, 06:52:36 PM
Today is the first time I actually think that Leicester will win the league (can't believe I'm even typing this).

Well done them!!!  082.gif
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on April 17, 2016, 07:01:54 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 06:52:16 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on April 17, 2016, 06:33:32 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on April 17, 2016, 04:26:13 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 03:45:15 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 17, 2016, 03:43:01 PM
Agree with op.

As regards refereeing today. Glad he sent off vardy - it was a dive and players need to be punished. West Ham penalty - it was a foul but these incidents happen every week and are not punished. Leicester city penalty was a poor decision.
thought ref had a stinker personally. Seen every angle and I don't see how anyone can say vardy dived. Huth should have had a pen too

Personally thought Vardy initiated contact and swung his legs into the defender to create the "trip", and then the over-selling of the fall was ridiculous. It was a dive.

That last gasp penalty had to have been a make-up for the missed call for Huth's penalty shout. Can't see how he didn't call that penalty. Was looking right at it.

Poor match for the ref.
by your own admission he initiated a trip, so how can it be a dive. Don't think there is a rule about initiatimg a trip. It was never a pen but I'm sure that there is no basis for a yellow

You're just playing with words here. He simulated, dove, play-acted to try and draw a penalty. He stuck his own leg, unnaturally mind you, into the defender's legs to try and sell the dive. He deserved the yellow IMO. And if the details of the verbal abuse he gave the ref afterward are true, he may be in for more than just a game. Big "if" tho.

it's not a play on words, how can it be a dive when the two players looked like they were playing drunken twister before they hit the ground.its a coming together all day long and can't be a yellow for diving. Now if there's another rule I don't know about then fine, but I don't see how it can come under the rules of diving.

Referee has to make a judgement regarding dives. Is the reaction proportionate to the contact. In this case it wasn't. Contact was slight and Vardys fall to the floor was way too Hollywood.

If every time there was contact and someone fell and the ref awarded a penalty it would be ridiculous.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 07:10:00 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 17, 2016, 07:01:54 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 06:52:16 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on April 17, 2016, 06:33:32 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 04:28:01 PM
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on April 17, 2016, 04:26:13 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 03:45:15 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on April 17, 2016, 03:43:01 PM
Agree with op.

As regards refereeing today. Glad he sent off vardy - it was a dive and players need to be punished. West Ham penalty - it was a foul but these incidents happen every week and are not punished. Leicester city penalty was a poor decision.
thought ref had a stinker personally. Seen every angle and I don't see how anyone can say vardy dived. Huth should have had a pen too

Personally thought Vardy initiated contact and swung his legs into the defender to create the "trip", and then the over-selling of the fall was ridiculous. It was a dive.

That last gasp penalty had to have been a make-up for the missed call for Huth's penalty shout. Can't see how he didn't call that penalty. Was looking right at it.

Poor match for the ref.
by your own admission he initiated a trip, so how can it be a dive. Don't think there is a rule about initiatimg a trip. It was never a pen but I'm sure that there is no basis for a yellow

You're just playing with words here. He simulated, dove, play-acted to try and draw a penalty. He stuck his own leg, unnaturally mind you, into the defender's legs to try and sell the dive. He deserved the yellow IMO. And if the details of the verbal abuse he gave the ref afterward are true, he may be in for more than just a game. Big "if" tho.

it's not a play on words, how can it be a dive when the two players looked like they were playing drunken twister before they hit the ground.its a coming together all day long and can't be a yellow for diving. Now if there's another rule I don't know about then fine, but I don't see how it can come under the rules of diving.

Referee has to make a judgement regarding dives. Is the reaction proportionate to the contact. In this case it wasn't. Contact was slight and Vardys fall to the floor was way too Hollywood.

If every time there was contact and someone fell and the ref awarded a penalty it would be ridiculous.
did he book the Westham player As well, who also hit the deck in the incident with little contact as you call it? They were tangled together, the amount of contact is blatant for everyone to see, and it's huge. Now what I'm asking, does initiating contact come under diving as I was sure it didn't. And if it didn't then how can it be a yellow.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Jem on April 17, 2016, 08:11:18 PM
Isn't this the beauty of football and sport in general. It isn't an exact science. There are so many different opinions of what happens. This game is a perfect example. If every action had an exact conclusion it would be boring. God I love it! Someone in another thread mentioned the lottery. If supporting Fulham isn't a lottery I don't know what is. And I love it!
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: St Eve on April 17, 2016, 09:14:25 PM
If W Ham got a penalty then so should Huth. Leicesters last minute penalty was the right decision. Vary didn't dive but it wasn't a penalty
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: fulhamben on April 17, 2016, 09:17:28 PM
Quote from: St Eve on April 17, 2016, 09:14:25 PM
If W Ham got a penalty then so should Huth. Leicesters last minute penalty was the right decision. Vary didn't dive but it wasn't a penalty
agree completely
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Sgt Fulham on April 17, 2016, 11:33:54 PM
Quote from: One James stannard on April 17, 2016, 06:52:36 PM
Today is the first time I actually think that Leicester will win the league (can't believe I'm even typing this).

Well done them!!!  082.gif

For me it's the opposite. I fully expect Spurs to win all of their remaining games, meaning Leicester can only lose one of theirs, against tough opposition.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 18, 2016, 07:56:35 AM
Leicester last game away at them down road.
No way will Chelsea want Spurs to win league.. :022:
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: fulhamben on April 18, 2016, 08:34:46 AM
The plot thickens. Turns out the ref is a spurs fan. You couldn't make it up, especially as the ref from tonight's stoke spurs game was dropped for being a Leicester fan.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Slaphead in Qatar on April 18, 2016, 12:04:01 PM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on April 17, 2016, 11:33:54 PM
Quote from: One James stannard on April 17, 2016, 06:52:36 PM
Today is the first time I actually think that Leicester will win the league (can't believe I'm even typing this).

Well done them!!!  082.gif

For me it's the opposite. I fully expect Spurs to win all of their remaining games, meaning Leicester can only lose one of theirs, against tough opposition.

I think Leicester will bottle it. Raneiri has a history of coming second
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Blanco on April 18, 2016, 12:16:00 PM
Quote from: St Eve on April 17, 2016, 09:14:25 PM
If W Ham got a penalty then so should Huth. Leicesters last minute penalty was the right decision. Vary didn't dive but it wasn't a penalty

I thought it was a dive. A proper cheaters dive. I like Vardy but it was really dirty what he did. He wrapped his legs around the defender looking for the contact. He did it against Arsenal and got away with it. Ref made right decision. He's an idiot because they'll miss him now especially as he could get an extended ban. I do actually fancy Spurs a bit more now.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: One James stannard on April 18, 2016, 05:21:15 PM
I think it's fantastic for the premier leauge that we are even having a discussion on Who will win the leauge between Leicester or Tottenham.

I'm sticking a pound on crystal palace for next year :dft011:
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: filham on April 18, 2016, 05:36:00 PM
That Leiccester defence should carry them through to the title, Vardy or no Vardy, it is pretty tight, wish ours was half as good.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: rubbernecca on April 18, 2016, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 18, 2016, 08:34:46 AM
The plot thickens. Turns out the ref is a spurs fan. You couldn't make it up, especially as the ref from tonight's stoke spurs game was dropped for being a Leicester fan.

Is that true? If so Moss should be facing a fine or suspension instead of Vardy and Carroll.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: fulhamben on April 18, 2016, 06:59:22 PM
Quote from: rubbernecca on April 18, 2016, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 18, 2016, 08:34:46 AM
The plot thickens. Turns out the ref is a spurs fan. You couldn't make it up, especially as the ref from tonight's stoke spurs game was dropped for being a Leicester fan.

Is that true? If so Moss should be facing a fine or suspension instead of Vardy and Carroll.
That's what they were saying on radio this morning. Refs have to register if they support a team to the fa when they start there career so this is an fa problem as opposed to the refs. Why did the fa stop a Leicester ref taking charge of spurs game but not stop a spurs ref officiating a Leicester game
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Rhys Lightning 63 on April 18, 2016, 07:09:54 PM
I had a teacher who was a Leicester fan, was a right d**k to me. Mr Tucker was his name, therefore I'm FIRMLY on the Spurs title bandwagon
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Logicalman on April 18, 2016, 08:43:50 PM

I think the simple fact that there are multiple opines on this thread alone concerning the Vardy sending off, from it was a blatant dive, all the spectrum to it was a trip (therefore a penalty) just goes to show how difficult it is for a ref, and/or linesman, to manage to get such decisions correct.

Don't for one minute think I am defending the ref involved, he was as crap a ref as Villa have been a prem team this season. To give the Penalty for Spam, but to not give the identical penalty for Leicester, was a blatant (yep that word again) example of how the refs are ruining the game through inconsistent calls. That he gave the 'soft' penalty (was it really a penalty?) at the end, had all the appearance of trying to keep his name, and pathetic attempt at being a Prem ref, off the back pages of the tabloids, as much as reffing the actual game or fairness.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Logicalman on April 18, 2016, 08:46:25 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 18, 2016, 06:59:22 PM
Quote from: rubbernecca on April 18, 2016, 06:31:38 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on April 18, 2016, 08:34:46 AM
The plot thickens. Turns out the ref is a spurs fan. You couldn't make it up, especially as the ref from tonight's stoke spurs game was dropped for being a Leicester fan.

Is that true? If so Moss should be facing a fine or suspension instead of Vardy and Carroll.
That's what they were saying on radio this morning. Refs have to register if they support a team to the fa when they start there career so this is an fa problem as opposed to the refs. Why did the fa stop a Leicester ref taking charge of spurs game but not stop a spurs ref officiating a Leicester game

I thought that Moss was the reserve official for the Leicester game as the original one had declared he had attended Leister home games as a spectator in the past. Sorry, I must have got wrong info on that one.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: bobbo on April 19, 2016, 05:33:06 AM
I never want to speak up for or offer protection to players who spit the dummy out as vardy did last night , but , the referee by all accounts was appalling and whilst he seems to be able to make the mistakes that ultimately severely frustrates the players and affects the result of the game, he will probably pay no price for his poor decsions that caused vardy to act as he did, but the players does. ----  I haven't seen any of the match due out of uk at present ------but I've read many different reports.
Title: Re: Leicester City
Post by: Mince n Tatties on April 19, 2016, 07:28:01 AM
Quote from: Rhys Lightning 63 on April 18, 2016, 07:09:54 PM
I had a teacher who was a Leicester fan, was a right d**k to me. Mr Tucker was his name, therefore I'm FIRMLY on the Spurs title bandwagon

I had a teacher called Miss Minty she had the biggest breasts
ever,they used to flop on her desk and frighten me.
Ive never been a lover of huge breasts since,her son was a Spud,so
Im definitely in the Leicester Camp...