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Some of the things i'm reading tonight on twitter are beyond baffling, has no one else watched us for the last 2 years whilst hes been here? How we will be better off without arguably the best player in the league, or at least in the top 3? The guy has carried us for 2 years and we'd be in League one without him. Yes he can leave us a little restricted in terms of what formation we can play but surely we should be building a team round him which can help him, not get rid off him because he doesn't fit into this supposedly 4-3-3 were supposedly want to play. I agree 15mil for a striker is a lot and hard to turn down but he's our best player our talisman and surely our best hope of getting out the division yet half the supporters feel like we can do without him. Baffling. Its not his fault the defence has let us down time and time again.

Quote from: JPCL on July 22, 2016, 01:11:40 AM
Some of the things i'm reading tonight on twitter are beyond baffling, has no one else watched us for the last 2 years whilst hes been here? How we will be better off without arguably the best player in the league, or at least in the top 3? The guy has carried us for 2 years and we'd be in League one without him. Yes he can leave us a little restricted in terms of what formation we can play but surely we should be building a team round him which can help him, not get rid off him because he doesn't fit into this supposedly 4-3-3 were supposedly want to play. I agree 15mil for a striker is a lot and hard to turn down but he's our best player our talisman and surely our best hope of getting out the division yet half the supporters feel like we can do without him. Baffling. Its not his fault the defence has let us down time and time again.

Do not want him to leave. Hope it's all BS

Its a Fulham thing,slag off our best player and praise a donkey.
Its a bit like the British affect,slag off our champions and make heroes out of the likes
of Eddie the Eagle....Hilarious

Exactly this, its so frustrating listening to our fans sometimes. Ross McCormack is our best player, and also one of our best team players, he brings others in to the game, creates space and almost always keeps possession of the ball.

Also there is the fact our manager has said publicly that he wants to build the team around McCormack, if he is sold its a huge kick in the teeth for the entire squad, our manager, and the fans.

He's arguably the best player in the championship, selling him would be foolish.

We need to stop trying to justify the potential sale by claiming the team would be better without him because its simply untrue.

if memory serves me when he played at leeds they were one of the top scoring teams in tbe league and one of the worst defenses, and it's pretty much the same now he is with us. I'm not for a second blaming him but definitely food for thought.

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Quote from: alexmur on July 22, 2016, 09:29:00 AM
if memory serves me when he played at leeds they were one of the top scoring teams in tbe league and one of the worst defenses, and it's pretty much the same now he is with us. I'm not for a second blaming him but definitely food for thought.

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Had to check that out. Not big scorers at all but always with a negative GD and about the 6th worst defence on avg.

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Quote from: alexmur on July 22, 2016, 09:29:00 AM
if memory serves me when he played at leeds they were one of the top scoring teams in tbe league and one of the worst defenses, and it's pretty much the same now he is with us. I'm not for a second blaming him but definitely food for thought.

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Had to check that out. Not big scorers at all but always with a negative GD and about the 6th worst defence on avg.

guess my memory is not what I thought, Always remember my leeds mates talking about how they were scoring but conceeding way too many, but you could hardly blame ross for that. don't think he will leave unless it's for a premiership team and if he does I think 15 million is fine for someone his age who hasn't played in the premiership, seeing as anyone in the championship that would spend that money would have the aim to go up straight away.

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Given the number of goals and assists that Ross (and Moussa) amassed last season, you have to say that without them we would have been in much worse shape. Possibly relegated. I am in no hurry to see the back of Ross.

Quote from: JPCL on July 22, 2016, 01:11:40 AM
Some of the things i'm reading tonight on twitter are beyond baffling, has no one else watched us for the last 2 years whilst hes been here? How we will be better off without arguably the best player in the league, or at least in the top 3? The guy has carried us for 2 years and we'd be in League one without him. Yes he can leave us a little restricted in terms of what formation we can play but surely we should be building a team round him which can help him, not get rid off him because he doesn't fit into this supposedly 4-3-3 were supposedly want to play. I agree 15mil for a striker is a lot and hard to turn down but he's our best player our talisman and surely our best hope of getting out the division yet half the supporters feel like we can do without him. Baffling. Its not his fault the defence has let us down time and time again.

Totally beyond me as well. I attended my first FFC game as a kid in 1962 and in all that time I am struggling to think of a single player who had such a major influence on the team in which he played. The thought of what would have happened to FFC without him in the last couple of years doesn't bare thinking about. He has his faults, which player doesn't, but how on earth anyone would think we would be better off without a player who has not only scored over forty goals in two seasons, but has probably laid on as many as any of our midfield players. Baffled is the word for it!!

He is 29, We will never get a better price for him. He is not suited to playing up top by himself and this hinders us greatly especially if Jokanovic wants us to play a 4231 or a 433. He also does not fit Jokanovics high pressing ethos. There are lots of decent replacements out there (Wells,Kodjia,Vydra,Bamford)to name a few, that are more complete strikers and are capable of playing up top on their own. The latter two would be avaliable on loan for around 2mill with the first two being avaliable for around 7mill. And the rest of the Mccormack money can be spent improving the squad, buying players that actually want to be here and buying the CM that is much needed.

Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 22, 2016, 09:21:57 AM
Its a Fulham thing,slag off our best player and praise a donkey.
Its a bit like the British affect,slag off our champions and make heroes out of the likes
of Eddie the Eagle....Hilarious

wtf, Eddie the Eagle is a national treasure. He is that awesome that they even made a film about him. Doubt anyone will ever make one about Ross. Suppose you don't like Eric the eel either, even though he nearly drowned in the Olympic pool

I suppose you can say about any very talented player who is very important to the team - the first name on the team sheet- 'maybe we rely on him too much, perhaps we'd be better off  with the  money  in fees to spend on other players'. You could have said the same thing about Johnny Haynes, or more recently the first Dembele, or even the second.

But, you never know, of course if the team will function better without a  star player, or will be worse.

I am just grateful we have had Ross's outstanding input, and his many goals, for the last couple of seasons, and wonder where we would have been without them.

If he goes, then we'll have to adapt of course, but I think we should try to hang on to him for as long as possible.

I also find it rather odd, sell him and get 3 others, what makes anyone think they will do better, we are not going to play all 3 at the same time.

In response to the OP, there has been tonnes of stuff on here on this subject.

Yes, you get the usual knee jerk stuff, which you really need to just scroll past. Among them you will find some reasoned arguments about why we might be better without our "talisman".

I haven't got time to go into too much detail again on the subject but right now, my hope for the window is that Ross goes. Not because I don't think he is a quality player or scored the goals that kept us up. I do and he did.

I think he is a quality player and parts of his play would be great to show youngsters learning the game.

The issue for me is, that if you don't have quality all over the park, and we don't and haven't had in his time, the team tends to be based around him. When that happens, by default, he becomes integral and will score goals. When taken in isolation, it can then seem crazy to be without him.

I happen to think, we would be a far better unit in the current set up, without him.

We scored loads of goals but apart from very few moments, we never had teams on the rack for long periods.

I love him as a player but I think if we have desires on top six, we need the type of striker that is going to be a handful for defenders for 90 minutes and force them into mistakes. I could explain in better detail but I'm just rushing

 Would 'knee jerk stuff' = 'stuff I don't agree with', perchance?

I kinda feel like MJG did over the Matt Smith situation when he came back, it was something along the lines of... 'Right, he's back but I don't want to hear any complaints about us playing long ball, you asked for this'

IF we lose McCormack, those fans that say '£15m, we can reinvest in an X Y & Z', I don't want to hear a word from you about a lack of goals

Can't believe we would sell Ross a stupid decision by the club if true.

Quote from: hovewhite on July 22, 2016, 12:26:25 PM
Can't believe we would sell Ross a stupid decision by the club if true.

that all depends, if buy out clause is reached, then there is very little the club can do, and if its the managers decision, then we have to trust that he has a plan. But if it's purely a money issue then yes it's crazy

Quote from: hovewhite on July 22, 2016, 12:26:25 PM
Can't believe we would sell Ross a stupid decision by the club if true.

Not so, best rid of him, greedy , divides the dressing room, killed team spirit, mercenary, always looking to leave lazy , poor for a good part of last season, especially at the start, doesn't a fig about the club just himself, hurry up canaries, sign the greedy barsteward

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2016, 03:58:03 PM
Under the circumstances. It's best he goes, he did cause problems in the dressing room, a real moaning Minnie, poor captain, I reckon we can do just as well without him, and pocket more money than I think he's worth at this stage. But clearly Norwich are desperate to bring someone in, he is also lazy, and has trouble shedding weight.
Yes he scores goals, and does things other players cannot.  But he is no athlete and we have had our money's worth. I think you will find we won't miss him anywhere near as much as you think. There is 11 players in the team. But Fulham have to spend wisely, let's hope they have marked their targets.

When was the last time we ever 'spent wisely'?   

Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 10:03:07 AM

Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 22, 2016, 09:21:57 AM
Its a Fulham thing,slag off our best player and praise a donkey.
Its a bit like the British affect,slag off our champions and make heroes out of the likes
of Eddie the Eagle....Hilarious

wtf, Eddie the Eagle is a national treasure. He is that awesome that they even made a film about him. Doubt anyone will ever make one about Ross. Suppose you don't like Eric the eel either, even though he nearly drowned in the Olympic pool

Precisely...Make a hero out of someone who can jump 3ft 2 ins...
Once caught an eel but his name wasnt Eric...

Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 01:04:18 PM

Quote from: hovewhite on July 22, 2016, 12:26:25 PM
Can't believe we would sell Ross a stupid decision by the club if true.

that all depends, if buy out clause is reached, then there is very little the club can do, and if its the managers decision, then we have to trust that he has a plan. But if it's purely a money issue then yes it's crazy

If its not the managers  decision and it comes from rigg its the beggining of the end I think for joka.

In the last two years since we've been down we must have bought like 20 odd players and about 3/4 which have been any good. Ross, Cairney, Madl, no one else has been great. I wouldn't mind the money if had any sort of faith we'd spend it wisely. We got like 5 mil for Mitroglou & havent spent that yet ...

Berbatov was arguably a  better player than Ross, but he was a real drag on team morale.  I was very glad to see the back of him.  Ross is less of a drama queen but he still seems to have baggage.  A little more round the waste than a professional athlete should carry.  A roving minstrel that might well contribute to our poor defensive record.  A history of playing in under-performing teams.  A hint of an unfriendly attitude towards team-mates?  A lack of pace.  But, he scores a load of goals and makes quite a few more.  He just needs one hell of a team behind him.  Yet why has a Prem side not taken him on?
I don't really know, but the consistent participation in defensively poor teams and 15 million would be two reasons why I would not shed too many tears if he were to go.  I also wouldn't mind too much if he were to stay and prove me wrong.  The key is what does Slavisa think.
Nogood "creosote on this one, isit" Boyo

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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2016, 03:58:03 PM
Under the circumstances. It's best he goes, he did cause problems in the dressing room, a real moaning Minnie, poor captain, I reckon we can do just as well without him, and pocket more money than I think he's worth at this stage. But clearly Norwich are desperate to bring someone in, he is also lazy, and has trouble shedding weight.
Yes he scores goals, and does things other players cannot.  But he is no athlete and we have had our money's worth. I think you will find we won't miss him anywhere near as much as you think. There is 11 players in the team. But Fulham have to spend wisely, let's hope they have marked their targets.

When was the last time we ever 'spent wisely'?   

That Scottish bloke we got from Leeds didn't turn out too bad. Leading goalscorer for next two seasons. Russ McSomethingoranother. Anyone remember him?

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2016, 04:13:55 PM

Quote from: Rhys Lightning 63 on July 22, 2016, 04:02:18 PM

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2016, 03:58:03 PM
Under the circumstances. It's best he goes, he did cause problems in the dressing room, a real moaning Minnie, poor captain, I reckon we can do just as well without him, and pocket more money than I think he's worth at this stage. But clearly Norwich are desperate to bring someone in, he is also lazy, and has trouble shedding weight.
Yes he scores goals, and does things other players cannot.  But he is no athlete and we have had our money's worth. I think you will find we won't miss him anywhere near as much as you think. There is 11 players in the team. But Fulham have to spend wisely, let's hope they have marked their targets.

When was the last time we ever 'spent wisely'?   

I cannot remember.

Moussa Dembele the First

Quote from: Whitesideup on July 22, 2016, 04:25:13 PM

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2016, 04:13:55 PM

Quote from: Rhys Lightning 63 on July 22, 2016, 04:02:18 PM

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 22, 2016, 03:58:03 PM
Under the circumstances. It's best he goes, he did cause problems in the dressing room, a real moaning Minnie, poor captain, I reckon we can do just as well without him, and pocket more money than I think he's worth at this stage. But clearly Norwich are desperate to bring someone in, he is also lazy, and has trouble shedding weight.
Yes he scores goals, and does things other players cannot.  But he is no athlete and we have had our money's worth. I think you will find we won't miss him anywhere near as much as you think. There is 11 players in the team. But Fulham have to spend wisely, let's hope they have marked their targets.

When was the last time we ever 'spent wisely'?   

I cannot remember.

Moussa Dembele the First

£5m? Yeah I'd say so

Quote from: NogoodBoyo on July 22, 2016, 04:16:52 PM
Berbatov was arguably a  better player than Ross, but he was a real drag on team morale.  I was very glad to see the back of him.  Ross is less of a drama queen but he still seems to have baggage.  A little more round the waste than a professional athlete should carry.  A roving minstrel that might well contribute to our poor defensive record.  A history of playing in under-performing teams.  A hint of an unfriendly attitude towards team-mates?  A lack of pace.  But, he scores a load of goals and makes quite a few more.  He just needs one hell of a team behind him.  Yet why has a Prem side not taken him on?
I don't really know, but the consistent participation in defensively poor teams and 15 million would be two reasons why I would not shed too many tears if he were to go.  I also wouldn't mind too much if he were to stay and prove me wrong.  The key is what does Slavisa think.
Nogood "creosote on this one, isit" Boyo

I concur

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Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 10:03:07 AM

Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 22, 2016, 09:21:57 AM
Its a Fulham thing,slag off our best player and praise a donkey.
Its a bit like the British affect,slag off our champions and make heroes out of the likes
of Eddie the Eagle....Hilarious

wtf, Eddie the Eagle is a national treasure. He is that awesome that they even made a film about him. Doubt anyone will ever make one about Ross. Suppose you don't like Eric the eel either, even though he nearly drowned in the Olympic pool

Precisely...Make a hero out of someone who can jump 3ft 2 ins...
Once caught an eel but his name wasnt Eric...

in all fairness, I bet none of us would even have the balls to go down one of the smaller ramps, let alone the biggest one. Need a medal just for going down it, regardless of how far you jump. These things are massive and steep

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Quote from: fulhamben on July 22, 2016, 10:03:07 AM

Quote from: Mince n Tatties on July 22, 2016, 09:21:57 AM
Its a Fulham thing,slag off our best player and praise a donkey.
Its a bit like the British affect,slag off our champions and make heroes out of the likes
of Eddie the Eagle....Hilarious

wtf, Eddie the Eagle is a national treasure. He is that awesome that they even made a film about him. Doubt anyone will ever make one about Ross. Suppose you don't like Eric the eel either, even though he nearly drowned in the Olympic pool

Precisely...Make a hero out of someone who can jump 3ft 2 ins...
Once caught an eel but his name wasnt Eric...

in all fairness, I bet none of us would even have the balls to go down one of the smaller ramps, let alone the biggest one. Need a medal just for going down it, regardless of how far you jump. These things are massive and steep

Not knocking him at all.
Its the British thing where we champion talentless people,and knock some
who have achieved lots..
Its the underdog thing in our nature...

History repeating itself.

He fails to attend the preseason training camp but this time all concerned are being more diplomatic i.e. this time he's injured because FFC are more discrete than Cellino was at Leeds. 

So, simple question.

Does anyone actually think McCormack will remain our player beyond the window?

If Ross is on his bike then the club may not announce his departure until his replacement has signed. Possibly Rhodes etc etc. We could afford Jordan with the Ross money. The club would want to appease the fans if Ross was sold.

Quote from: Delboy on July 23, 2016, 10:47:33 AM
If Ross is on his bike then the club may not announce his departure until his replacement has signed. Possibly Rhodes etc etc. We could afford Jordan with the Ross money. The club would want to appease the fans if Ross was sold.

Despite what Ross has done for the team in the last couple of years, I'd swap him for Rhodes at this stage, as we need a central front man to get on the end of the wide play now - no need for someone who has to do it all himself anymore

Quote from: Delboy on July 23, 2016, 10:47:33 AM
If Ross is on his bike then the club may not announce his departure until his replacement has signed. Possibly Rhodes etc etc. We could afford Jordan with the Ross money. The club would want to appease the fans if Ross was sold.

I wouldnt want all the Ross money to just be spent on one player, would rather spread it out.

Ross seems to have picked up a knock, which explains why he hasn't travelled to Portugal. Apart from jumping to a conclusion over that, and the inevitable and probably largely press-generated rumours, is there any solid reason for thinking he is going?

Ross might actually want to stay - we seem to be building a good team

 :dead horse:  I know people are saying that without Ross' goals these past two seasons, we would be in Div 1 and that is the best reason for keeping him.  I like the fella, but would be very tempted to sell him for the money which is being touted around (£13m).
I believe we would be fine as long as we get a Striker who can give us 12-15 goals.  The reason we needed Ross' 20+ over the previous two seasons was because we let so many in at the other end!  We also need the rest of the team to contribute a few more.
If we can stop leaking goals, which looking at who we have signed, I believe we will do, then we don't have to score quite so many to win games.  Ross has been excellent for us, but as others have said, he could not do it all on his own.  We now seem to be building a 'TEAM' who attack and defend as a unit. 
At the end of the day, money talks.  I am looking forward to the Newcastle game with great anticipation......
COYW

SO if Ross had broke his leg in any of the last 2 seasons we would have been down? Im sure this is the same as when he was at Leeds Injured, didn't go on preseason tour, sold. Leeds where just a bit more public about him going and wanted to look like they wanted to keep him. Fulham are staying quite telling clubs pay 15m and hes yours they can then turn around and say The buy out fee was met and Ross decided to leave we tried to keep him. The only thing that seems to keep Ross happy is the next pay cheque, fed up of him getting a new contract every time his name is mentioned think the club might be as well.

For me let him go, as said before never been in a team near the top of the table, sell for 15rm get in Assombolonga  or what ever hes called, younger and quicker

My take on this for what it is worth .I like Ross as a player but have niggling doubts about the following :
1. As he is not a central striker with pace and power and thus cannot lead the line on his own ,he restricts the way we can play. Simply put it means if he plays then it is 2 up front.
2. Have lost track of the number of new contracts we have given him and saw him only a couple of months saying he wanted to be part  of our rebuild, having just signed for 4 years .
3. He has previous at other clubs of rocking the boat for various reasons (Rangers ,Cardiff, Leeds ) and usually stays a couple of seasons before moving on . If he stays this speculation and constant imminant departure stuff is always going to continue.
4. If he wants to go then we are better off without him , as he is never going to be happy.
5. Why hasnt he or the club made it clear that he is going nowhere ?

In conclusion it must  reluctantly be said that in  all likely hood he will be going, and I dont think that its a question of us lacking ambition in not keeping him ,simply that somewhere a line must be drawn in the sand , where enough is enough because fulham is not all about Ross Macormack.Indeed it is much bigger . All footballers are after what they can get , and understandably so , but my feeling is now despite everything , if he goes then we will be well rid of a problem that was never going to go away.
Needless to say a replacement has to be found and quickly , and for me that is where the club is going to show at what level its ambition lies.

Have to ad to all this that surely we build our team around probably the best goal corer in the division rather than sell him and buy someone who may/not fit it to the Fulham team and may/not score goals.

This seems a big gamble to me with too much uncertainty


Will Norwich pay that much for him and would Ross go to another Championship club with no definitive future.

I would have thought Ross would want to test himself in the Premiership before he gets too old. Middlesborough would be the most likely target but see they have just bought a striker for £8M.

Do they have funds and desire for another ??

The mystery remains, please can the club tell us what's going on please

Quote from: clanky on July 23, 2016, 02:01:23 PM
Have to ad to all this that surely we build our team around probably the best goal corer in the division rather than sell him and buy someone who may/not fit it to the Fulham team and may/not score goals.

This seems a big gamble to me with too much uncertainty


Will Norwich pay that much for him and would Ross go to another Championship club with no definitive future.

I would have thought Ross would want to test himself in the Premiership before he gets too old. Middlesborough would be the most likely target but see they have just bought a striker for £8M.

Do they have funds and desire for another ??

The mystery remains, please can the club tell us what's going on please

We said that about the referendum and look how that turned out

"We said that about the referendum and look how that turned out"

Some said that, but others were certain there was no gamble at all.

Player is injured. If he wants to go he will go if the money is right. One player doesn't make a team. He didn't come close to getting us promotion but saved us from going down. Without him we will play a different way and we will have to wait for the outcome.

What else is there to discuss? We would like him to stay but the money would be nice. I am not gutted or suicidal by any of it. It is Fulham we are talking about. The news comes last from them. ALL the signings were well known to have signed bar one, before it was official. Same with players leaving.

So far we have had rumour about an injured player that nobody would sign anyway until he is fit.

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Quote from: Lighthouse on July 23, 2016, 02:49:17 PM
Player is injured. If he wants to go he will go if the money is right. One player doesn't make a team. He didn't come close to getting us promotion but saved us from going down. Without him we will play a different way and we will have to wait for the outcome.

What else is there to discuss? We would like him to stay but the money would be nice. I am not gutted or suicidal by any of it. It is Fulham we are talking about. The news comes last from them. ALL the signings were well known to have signed bar one, before it was official. Same with players leaving.

So far we have had rumour about an injured player that nobody would sign anyway until he is fit.

you're assuming he really is injured

So we may lose him to The Royal Shakespeare Company? His acting prowess is clearly improving. 'Darling you were wonderful with the fake injury that fooled all that saw it. Now how's your Hamlet?'

Not reading into it but why go all out and take Fulham team mates to your wedding, get your children decked out in Fulham gear if you have an ounce of wanting to leave the club?

That's all I've seen on Twitter this summer from him. Not an indication of anything but why start your married life off with people who won't form part of your future? Would be diff'rent if he was pictured with Cardiff and Leeds players too but?

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Quote from: Lighthouse on July 23, 2016, 02:49:17 PM
Player is injured. If he wants to go he will go if the money is right. One player doesn't make a team. He didn't come close to getting us promotion but saved us from going down. Without him we will play a different way and we will have to wait for the outcome.

What else is there to discuss? We would like him to stay but the money would be nice. I am not gutted or suicidal by any of it. It is Fulham we are talking about. The news comes last from them. ALL the signings were well known to have signed bar one, before it was official. Same with players leaving.

So far we have had rumour about an injured player that nobody would sign anyway until he is fit.

you're assuming he really is injured

So we may lose him to The Royal Shakespeare Company? His acting prowess is clearly improving. 'Darling you were wonderful with the fake injury that fooled all that saw it. Now how's your Hamlet?'

because someone on here claims to have seen him limping? well someone else on here claim's rigg's said he's off. so who knows

Well many people saw him limping at the friendly and many people commented. Stays or leaves it will not mean the club and the player were faking the injury. As for someone claiming Rigg said he was off. Well one person may well be right. We will see.

Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on July 23, 2016, 10:34:02 AM
History repeating itself.

He fails to attend the preseason training camp but this time all concerned are being more diplomatic i.e. this time he's injured because FFC are more discrete than Cellino was at Leeds. 

So, simple question.

Does anyone actually think McCormack will remain our player beyond the window?

the only way I see him going is to a premiership team or maybe Newcastle, but I'm just guessing really.

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I just don't understand why some people get so uptight about this, some say he is injured some say they are in the know and he is going or he isn' t, as we have no influence one way or the other i just don't worry about it, what happens happens.

Quote from: aaronmcguigan on July 23, 2016, 03:23:29 PM
Not reading into it but why go all out and take Fulham team mates to your wedding, get your children decked out in Fulham gear if you have an ounce of wanting to leave the club?

That's all I've seen on Twitter this summer from him. Not an indication of anything but why start your married life off with people who won't form part of your future? Would be diff'rent if he was pictured with Cardiff and Leeds players too but?

Football is a nomadic life, hes just invited his "friends" from work to his wedding no biggie there, more worrying maybe is that no one from any of his old work places got on with him well enough to either go or be invited. And if you loved the club and never wanted to leave why does he keep asking for new contracts ever time someone looks in his direction.

Love you optimists who think the fifteen billion(make your own number up) will be spent on new players. More likely Ernie will pocket it in a desperate bid to recoup some of the £120 million (allegedly) he spent on buying Fulham.

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 23, 2016, 04:14:27 PM
Ross was limping because he had a stone in his shoe.

No he had his wallet in his shoe

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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 23, 2016, 04:14:27 PM
Ross was limping because he had a stone in his shoe.

No he had his wallet in his shoe

Must have been some size shoe, have you seen his wallet recently ?

he's Scottish, no one has seen his wallet

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Ross was limping because he had a stone in his shoe.

No he had his wallet in his shoe

Must have been some size shoe, have you seen his wallet recently ?

he's Scottish, no one has seen his wallet

His wallet was hidden in the Cuban heel he had on ones shoe hence the limp

What would he look like in the new Norwich kit? Maybe that's why he's holding off.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/C768/production/_90484015_third-group.jpg)

We had all this about him in the last window,where he was supposed to have
asked for a transfer,Lonergan came out and said it was nonsense as he knew Ross loved it
at Fulham...Has he supposedly asked for a transfer again..I dont think so.

Fulham could and should have avoided the apparent impasse by at least being clear about where it stands over McCormack's position.  Either we want to keep him or we don't and it is that simple.

In the Euro 16 final, Portugal were better when Ronaldo went off. Football is a team game. I remember when Dembele started playing for us. McCormack seemed to be giving him a hard time. It's a personal opinion, and I may be wrong as I don't know what is in McCormacks head, but I think we will be more of a team without him.

Quote from: toshes mate on July 24, 2016, 11:44:28 AM
Fulham could and should have avoided the apparent impasse by at least being clear about where it stands over McCormack's position.  Either we want to keep him or we don't and it is that simple.

it depends. Negotiation is a  Complex game where information is power.

Quote from: Max Headroom on July 24, 2016, 11:54:12 AM
In the Euro 16 final, Portugal were better when Ronaldo went off. Football is a team game. I remember when Dembele started playing for us. McCormack seemed to be giving him a hard time. It's a personal opinion, and I may be wrong as I don't know what is in McCormacks head, but I think we will be more of a team without him.

only time will tell that, but we need a decent replacement or two to share the work load with woody

Quote from: toshes mate on July 24, 2016, 11:44:28 AM
Fulham could and should have avoided the apparent impasse by at least being clear about where it stands over McCormack's position.  Either we want to keep him or we don't and it is that simple.

Well Slav has said he wants him to stay and build a team around him. They've rejected bids according to several reports. What more can the club do to make it clear? Saying hands off has little effect on speculation.

Quote from: Max Headroom on July 24, 2016, 11:54:12 AM
In the Euro 16 final, Portugal were better when Ronaldo went off. Football is a team game. I remember when Dembele started playing for us. McCormack seemed to be giving him a hard time. It's a personal opinion, and I may be wrong as I don't know what is in McCormacks head, but I think we will be more of a team without him.

I don't think they were better they just had to play differently and it worked for them, and I think that's your point

Quote from: Snibbo on July 24, 2016, 02:40:20 AM
What would he look like in the new Norwich kit? Maybe that's why he's holding off.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/C768/production/_90484015_third-group.jpg)

Now that's a transfer killer

Quote from: Texas White on July 24, 2016, 08:08:21 PM

Quote from: Snibbo on July 24, 2016, 02:40:20 AM
What would he look like in the new Norwich kit? Maybe that's why he's holding off.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/C768/production/_90484015_third-group.jpg)

Now that's a transfer killer

Penicillin and some rest should do the trick ! and they will feel a lot better.

Quote from: Texas White on July 24, 2016, 08:08:21 PM

Quote from: Snibbo on July 24, 2016, 02:40:20 AM
What would he look like in the new Norwich kit? Maybe that's why he's holding off.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/C768/production/_90484015_third-group.jpg)

Now that's a transfer killer

Glad it was Florida that sponsored us and not Hawaii.

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Quote from: toshes mate on July 24, 2016, 11:44:28 AM
Fulham could and should have avoided the apparent impasse by at least being clear about where it stands over McCormack's position.  Either we want to keep him or we don't and it is that simple.

Well Slav has said he wants him to stay and build a team around him. They've rejected bids according to several reports. What more can the club do to make it clear? Saying hands off has little effect on speculation.

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Quote from: Snibbo on July 24, 2016, 02:40:20 AM
What would he look like in the new Norwich kit? Maybe that's why he's holding off.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/C768/production/_90484015_third-group.jpg)

Now that's a transfer killer

Glad it was Florida that sponsored us and not Hawaii.

No disrespect to the ladies but that looks like a very feminine shirt

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Quote from: Snibbo on July 24, 2016, 02:40:20 AM
What would he look like in the new Norwich kit? Maybe that's why he's holding off.

(http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cps/800/cpsprodpb/C768/production/_90484015_third-group.jpg)

Now that's a transfer killer

Glad it was Florida that sponsored us and not Hawaii.

No disrespect to the ladies but that looks like a very feminine shirt

Have you seen Norwich play? LOL

If one plays brilliant top notch football then one could get away with playing in their knickers and a tutu.  They will get chuckled at but will get respect for their game. 
If one plays like a donkey and their football is awful then playing in something as hideous as that kit is only going to magnify the problem.   
At least that is the way I see it. 

How I see it is, McCormack is clearly our best player and most gifted. However to have the best team it doesnt necessarily mean you have to keep the best player if it means the system and players around him arent also being utilised too there full capacity.

If by selling Ross meant we could replace him with a striker that just scores goals, and another creative midfielder, I think it would be best as this can benefit the team as a whole and not just Mccormack's goal tally.

Quote from: FFC1999 on July 24, 2016, 10:58:57 PM
How I see it is, McCormack is clearly our best player and most gifted. However to have the best team it doesnt necessarily mean you have to keep the best player if it means the system and players around him arent also being utilised too there full capacity.

If by selling Ross meant we could replace him with a striker that just scores goals, and another creative midfielder, I think it would be best as this can benefit the team as a whole and not just Mccormack's goal tally.

Well put. That's my view too.

Unfortunately when you build your team around one player and then that player wants to leave or is unsettled by bids from other clubs your system then falls apart . If he goes we should look to bring in 2-3 players that will make the team stronger  and not just one position.

Honestly, I think this quote about wanting to build the team around Ross is way out of date.  The type of team Jokanovic is building is nothing like you would build around Ross.  I think it far more likely that these words were said for Ross's benefit at the time and to gain maximum value from any future sale.  People who hang on words spoken by Jokanovic need to re-think, his English is not great and he not the happy chappy we had with Kit.  Jokanovic is a serious, take no crap type who come across as pissed off probably when the opposite is true.  As for the constant moaning about not spending money, we are no longer a Premier team and can't just spend spend without breaking FFP.  FFP could destroy us if we fail again.  Remember is based on total cost, not just transfer fees but wages, bonuses and all other costs associated with the players.

Quote from: cookieg on July 25, 2016, 08:03:22 AM
Unfortunately when you build your team around one player and then that player wants to leave or is unsettled by bids from other clubs your system then falls apart . If he goes we should look to bring in 2-3 players that will make the team stronger  and not just one position.

personally, i think our system with woody up top is looking the best it has in years. im sure we will get a replacement in for ross, and even though its essentially a 433 that we are playing at the moment, it leaves your main striker isolated, and as good as ross is, i dont think anyone thinks he can be effective as a lone striker

Did Leeds finish higher up the table after Ross left? I know they've twice finished higher than us without him. Interesting.

My main feeling is (and I'm sure any fan will agree) we only want players here who want to play for Fulham. It's never fun when a player is at a club against his will. When Ruiz was made to stay that extra year he never once celebrated a goal, felt very hollow. Hard to get behind players in that scenario.

Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on July 25, 2016, 11:03:57 AM
Did Leeds finish higher up the table after Ross left? I know they've twice finished higher than us without him. Interesting.

My main feeling is (and I'm sure any fan will agree) we only want players here who want to play for Fulham. It's never fun when a player is at a club against his will. When Ruiz was made to stay that extra year he never once celebrated a goal, felt very hollow. Hard to get behind players in that scenario.

They finished same position and then two places higher.
When he left Cardiff they had two playoff finishes and then champions

Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on July 25, 2016, 11:03:57 AM
Did Leeds finish higher up the table after Ross left? I know they've twice finished higher than us without him. Interesting.

My main feeling is (and I'm sure any fan will agree) we only want players here who want to play for Fulham. It's never fun when a player is at a club against his will. When Ruiz was made to stay that extra year he never once celebrated a goal, felt very hollow. Hard to get behind players in that scenario.

well said

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Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on July 25, 2016, 11:03:57 AM
Did Leeds finish higher up the table after Ross left? I know they've twice finished higher than us without him. Interesting.

My main feeling is (and I'm sure any fan will agree) we only want players here who want to play for Fulham. It's never fun when a player is at a club against his will. When Ruiz was made to stay that extra year he never once celebrated a goal, felt very hollow. Hard to get behind players in that scenario.

And where has Ross stated he isnt happy here,the so called transfer request last window
which was rubbish.
Its getting like a soap Opera

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Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on July 25, 2016, 11:03:57 AM
Did Leeds finish higher up the table after Ross left? I know they've twice finished higher than us without him. Interesting.

My main feeling is (and I'm sure any fan will agree) we only want players here who want to play for Fulham. It's never fun when a player is at a club against his will. When Ruiz was made to stay that extra year he never once celebrated a goal, felt very hollow. Hard to get behind players in that scenario.

And where has Ross stated he isnt happy here,the so called transfer request last window
which was rubbish.
Its getting like a soap Opera

Didn't he sit out a game or 2 but he wasn't injured? Pretty sure he tried to force a move.

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Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on July 25, 2016, 11:03:57 AM
Did Leeds finish higher up the table after Ross left? I know they've twice finished higher than us without him. Interesting.

My main feeling is (and I'm sure any fan will agree) we only want players here who want to play for Fulham. It's never fun when a player is at a club against his will. When Ruiz was made to stay that extra year he never once celebrated a goal, felt very hollow. Hard to get behind players in that scenario.

And where has Ross stated he isnt happy here,the so called transfer request last window
which was rubbish.
Its getting like a soap Opera

Didn't he sit out a game or 2 but he wasn't injured? Pretty sure he tried to force a move.

How many times Ive posted this now is unbelievable,Andy Lonergan quoted in the paper
That Ross never asked for a transfer and was happy at Fulham.
I have seen nothing in his play last season to doubt that.
He hasnt came out and asked for one this window either..Not saying it want
happen,but where is the evidence he wants away..

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Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on July 25, 2016, 11:03:57 AM
Did Leeds finish higher up the table after Ross left? I know they've twice finished higher than us without him. Interesting.

My main feeling is (and I'm sure any fan will agree) we only want players here who want to play for Fulham. It's never fun when a player is at a club against his will. When Ruiz was made to stay that extra year he never once celebrated a goal, felt very hollow. Hard to get behind players in that scenario.

well said
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Fulham could be in a win-win situation. If Ross stays then we have a top Championship striker who scores goals and helps with assists, if we lose him then we can strengthen the spine of the team with more experienced players (which we should be doing anyway but Khan is reluctant to pay asking prices).
I'd like to keep Ross, but if he wants away then good luck to him, he's helped us over the last two seasons and if we can get a good price to unlock Khans wallet.

If the rumours are to be believed, with us using the money raised from Ross to raid Derby and buy Martin, Russell and Keogh... Can anyone think of a footballing scenario where the team who sold the one player, to replace them with a group (think Gareth Bale at Spurs) actually came off with the better deal?

I can think of tons in American sports, but don't want to use them as examples

Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on July 25, 2016, 12:04:45 PM
Didn't he sit out a game or 2 but he wasn't injured? Pretty sure he tried to force a move.

We should start a new thread to see who can make up the best rumour concerning Ross (who missed one game all last season).

I know for sure that he always nicks all the chocolate digestives after training and that none of the others will play Scrabble with him as he keeps a couple of spare 'E's and 'S's in his pocket.

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Quote from: McTarmack on July 25, 2016, 12:14:42 PM
Fulham could be in a win-win situation. If Ross stays then we have a top Championship striker who scores goals and helps with assists, if we lose him then we can strengthen the spine of the team with more experienced players (which we should be doing anyway but Khan is reluctant to pay asking prices).
I'd like to keep Ross, but if he wants away then good luck to him, he's helped us over the last two seasons and if we can get a good price to unlock Khans wallet.

Have you got the code to the combination lock on Khans wallet, then it's a case of negotiating the barbed wire, and his close protection unit. Last but not least is a stick of dynamite may be required.

More likely a combo on Ross wallet

Quote from: cmg on July 25, 2016, 01:03:06 PM

Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on July 25, 2016, 12:04:45 PM
Didn't he sit out a game or 2 but he wasn't injured? Pretty sure he tried to force a move.

We should start a new thread to see who can make up the best rumour concerning Ross (who missed one game all last season).

I know for sure that he always nicks all the chocolate digestives after training and that none of the others will play Scrabble with him as he keeps a couple of spare 'E's and 'S's in his pocket.

Lol. Nice one centurion.

I think Ross has been "injured" before whilst in our squad and nothing has come of it.
So not sure it is a given he is off.

Imo he has been the ultimate professional and gives his all for whatever team he plays.

For me the question is:-

Does he fit in Joka's plans.
Is he the striker we need in a fast pressing game with wingers.
Can he play up front alone?

I'm not sure he will stay.

If he goes and we use the money on a 20 goal a season striker who works in Joka's system then fine.
If he goes and we get 2-3 others who can't put the ball in the net, then we are in trouble .
Let's face it he scored pens and free kicks as well as open play goals.
For me I think we need a killer striker and Ross to get top 6.

Just an opinion.
COYW!

We could have done with Ross's guile tonight.

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Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on July 25, 2016, 11:03:57 AM
Did Leeds finish higher up the table after Ross left? I know they've twice finished higher than us without him. Interesting.

My main feeling is (and I'm sure any fan will agree) we only want players here who want to play for Fulham. It's never fun when a player is at a club against his will. When Ruiz was made to stay that extra year he never once celebrated a goal, felt very hollow. Hard to get behind players in that scenario.

And where has Ross stated he isnt happy here,the so called transfer request last window
which was rubbish.
Its getting like a soap Opera

Didn't he sit out a game or 2 but he wasn't injured? Pretty sure he tried to force a move.

How many times Ive posted this now is unbelievable,Andy Lonergan quoted in the paper
That Ross never asked for a transfer and was happy at Fulham.
I have seen nothing in his play last season to doubt that.
He hasnt came out and asked for one this window either..Not saying it want
happen,but where is the evidence he wants away..

Bit of a naive view.

I don't think we keep giving him a pay rise because he's a good lad and helps collect the balls and bibs after training!

Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 25, 2016, 10:31:53 PM
A mate of mine was at the match tonight and sent me a text with a photo of him and Jok. He asked Jok what is the position with Ross, is he leaving or staying. Jok laughed patted him on the back, got up and walked off.

Not sure what yo make of that Woolly

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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 25, 2016, 10:31:53 PM
A mate of mine was at the match tonight and sent me a text with a photo of him and Jok. He asked Jok what is the position with Ross, is he leaving or staying. Jok laughed patted him on the back, got up and walked off.

Not sure what yo make of that Woolly

Difficult to deduce, my chum was definately there, and it's a good photo of him and Jok. No mistaken identity. So it's a wait and see on this one I imagine. He left my friend not sure what to make of it either.

should of asked him if there was any chance of him turning Smith into a decent striker, although I fear the answer would have been the same

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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 25, 2016, 10:31:53 PM
A mate of mine was at the match tonight and sent me a text with a photo of him and Jok. He asked Jok what is the position with Ross, is he leaving or staying. Jok laughed patted him on the back, got up and walked off.

Not sure what yo make of that Woolly

Difficult to deduce, my chum was definately there, and it's a good photo of him and Jok. No mistaken identity. So it's a wait and see on this one I imagine. He left my friend not sure what to make of it either.

should of asked him if there was any chance of him turning Smith into a decent striker, although I fear the answer would have been the same

How dare you fulhamben, he will be a hero this season.

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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 25, 2016, 10:31:53 PM
A mate of mine was at the match tonight and sent me a text with a photo of him and Jok. He asked Jok what is the position with Ross, is he leaving or staying. Jok laughed patted him on the back, got up and walked off.

Not sure what yo make of that Woolly

Difficult to deduce, my chum was definately there, and it's a good photo of him and Jok. No mistaken identity. So it's a wait and see on this one I imagine. He left my friend not sure what to make of it either.

Errr he doesent speak English...

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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 25, 2016, 10:31:53 PM
A mate of mine was at the match tonight and sent me a text with a photo of him and Jok. He asked Jok what is the position with Ross, is he leaving or staying. Jok laughed patted him on the back, got up and walked off.

Not sure what yo make of that Woolly

Difficult to deduce, my chum was definately there, and it's a good photo of him and Jok. No mistaken identity. So it's a wait and see on this one I imagine. He left my friend not sure what to make of it either.

Errr he doesent speak English...

Errr he understands what he wants to hear,
Errr and neither do you...its doesn't

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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 25, 2016, 10:31:53 PM
A mate of mine was at the match tonight and sent me a text with a photo of him and Jok. He asked Jok what is the position with Ross, is he leaving or staying. Jok laughed patted him on the back, got up and walked off.

Not sure what yo make of that Woolly

Difficult to deduce, my chum was definately there, and it's a good photo of him and Jok. No mistaken identity. So it's a wait and see on this one I imagine. He left my friend not sure what to make of it either.

Errr he doesent speak English...

Errr he understands what he wants to hear,
Errr and neither do you...its doesn't

Really... You think his English is real good...

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Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on July 25, 2016, 10:31:53 PM
A mate of mine was at the match tonight and sent me a text with a photo of him and Jok. He asked Jok what is the position with Ross, is he leaving or staying. Jok laughed patted him on the back, got up and walked off.

Not sure what yo make of that Woolly

Difficult to deduce, my chum was definately there, and it's a good photo of him and Jok. No mistaken identity. So it's a wait and see on this one I imagine. He left my friend not sure what to make of it either.

Errr he doesent speak English...

Errr he understands what he wants to hear,
Errr and neither do you...its doesn't

Really... You think his English is real good...

My mates English is sweet as a nut.

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I'd have preferred it if slavisa had just smiled and gave him a vegiemite sandwich

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Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on July 25, 2016, 12:04:45 PM
Didn't he sit out a game or 2 but he wasn't injured? Pretty sure he tried to force a move.

We should start a new thread to see who can make up the best rumour concerning Ross (who missed one game all last season).

I know for sure that he always nicks all the chocolate digestives after training and that none of the others will play Scrabble with him as he keeps a couple of spare 'E's and 'S's in his pocket.

I heard on good information that ross knows how they get the fig into a fig roll, but won't tell anyone.

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Quote from: Horsfield_No9 on July 25, 2016, 12:04:45 PM
Didn't he sit out a game or 2 but he wasn't injured? Pretty sure he tried to force a move.

We should start a new thread to see who can make up the best rumour concerning Ross (who missed one game all last season).

I know for sure that he always nicks all the chocolate digestives after training and that none of the others will play Scrabble with him as he keeps a couple of spare 'E's and 'S's in his pocket.

I heard on good information that ross knows how they get the fig into a fig roll, but won't tell anyone.

So THAT'S why Delia wants him.

I agree. Surely Ross is a key player in our future success. Any good manager would take the strengths of Ross and build a team to counter balance any weakness in our defense.
He is too good for Fulham to lose; I know one player doesn't make a team but to replace him with a player that wants to come to Fulham is a very major challenge. It also makes two major assumptions ; that Mr K will spend all the money from any potential Ross transfer and that Rigg can find another player with the same impact as Ross in a relatively short time frame. I certainly wouldn't want to put a bet on these assumptions actually occurring.

Sky sports saying Norwich have launched a £10 million bid for Mc.

Quote from: Woodlawn on July 26, 2016, 06:16:43 PM
Sky sports saying Norwich have launched a £10 million bid for Mc.

They can get lost . £15 mil cash & they can have him.

On Sky now that Fulham have turned down 2 bids for Ross.

There is no done deal as yet but we will not see Ross in a Fulham kit again

Onwards and upwards

Good fun thread this.  Social media doing what only social media can.

Let's try a thought experiment.  Imagine a world where Ross is entirely content with his lot, no plans to move from London where he is happily settled.  Future financial security is assured and the club owner seems good for a few bob, so there might be some handy colleagues on the way for a stab at glory this year.  The club feels warmly towards Ross and it's a happy relationship all round.

Only trouble is there's these people who are absolutely intent on claiming that there is a large and deepening wedge in that relationship.  In the long run they are bound to be proven right, because all players leave in the end, but in short run its just not where player or club's head is at.  So, what can be done to correct this misperception?  New contracts, ludicrously high buyout clause, turning up hobbling to friendly games, photos of barbecues....all tried and all merely serve to heighten the speculation.  It's like a waking nightmare....everyone says he's off....despite all efforts to indicate something different.

To be clear, I have absolutely no insight to what is going on.  But wouldn't it be extraordinary if our best player was simply intent on a harmonious and lucrative time settled in West London only to read every night of his impending relocation to Norwich, Birmingham, Newcastle or wherever.

Quote from: Carborundum on July 26, 2016, 11:15:14 PM
Good fun thread this.  Social media doing what only social media can.

Let's try a thought experiment.  Imagine a world where Ross is entirely content with his lot, no plans to move from London where he is happily settled.  Future financial security is assured and the club owner seems good for a few bob, so there might be some handy colleagues on the way for a stab at glory this year.  The club feels warmly towards Ross and it's a happy relationship all round.

Only trouble is there's these people who are absolutely intent on claiming that there is a large and deepening wedge in that relationship.  In the long run they are bound to be proven right, because all players leave in the end, but in short run its just not where player or club's head is at.  So, what can be done to correct this misperception?  New contracts, ludicrously high buyout clause, turning up hobbling to friendly games, photos of barbecues....all tried and all merely serve to heighten the speculation.  It's like a waking nightmare....everyone says he's off....despite all efforts to indicate something different.

To be clear, I have absolutely no insight to what is going on.  But wouldn't it be extraordinary if our best player was simply intent on a harmonious and lucrative time settled in West London only to read every night of his impending relocation to Norwich, Birmingham, Newcastle or wherever.

Do you believe there are pixies at the end of your garden as well ?

Quote from: Carborundum on July 26, 2016, 11:15:14 PM
Good fun thread this.  Social media doing what only social media can.

Let's try a thought experiment.  Imagine a world where Ross is entirely content with his lot, no plans to move from London where he is happily settled.  Future financial security is assured and the club owner seems good for a few bob, so there might be some handy colleagues on the way for a stab at glory this year.  The club feels warmly towards Ross and it's a happy relationship all round.

Only trouble is there's these people who are absolutely intent on claiming that there is a large and deepening wedge in that relationship.  In the long run they are bound to be proven right, because all players leave in the end, but in short run its just not where player or club's head is at.  So, what can be done to correct this misperception?  New contracts, ludicrously high buyout clause, turning up hobbling to friendly games, photos of barbecues....all tried and all merely serve to heighten the speculation.  It's like a waking nightmare....everyone says he's off....despite all efforts to indicate something different.

To be clear, I have absolutely no insight to what is going on.  But wouldn't it be extraordinary if our best player was simply intent on a harmonious and lucrative time settled in West London only to read every night of his impending relocation to Norwich, Birmingham, Newcastle or wherever.

*South west London. That's important. Also it isn't at all. You speak wize words and I agree completely. How dare you be rational.

Quote from: Carborundum on July 26, 2016, 11:15:14 PM
Good fun thread this.  Social media doing what only social media can.

Let's try a thought experiment.  Imagine a world where Ross is entirely content with his lot, no plans to move from London where he is happily settled.  Future financial security is assured and the club owner seems good for a few bob, so there might be some handy colleagues on the way for a stab at glory this year.  The club feels warmly towards Ross and it's a happy relationship all round.

Only trouble is there's these people who are absolutely intent on claiming that there is a large and deepening wedge in that relationship.  In the long run they are bound to be proven right, because all players leave in the end, but in short run its just not where player or club's head is at.  So, what can be done to correct this misperception?  New contracts, ludicrously high buyout clause, turning up hobbling to friendly games, photos of barbecues....all tried and all merely serve to heighten the speculation.  It's like a waking nightmare....everyone says he's off....despite all efforts to indicate something different.

To be clear, I have absolutely no insight to what is going on.  But wouldn't it be extraordinary if our best player was simply intent on a harmonious and lucrative time settled in West London only to read every night of his impending relocation to Norwich, Birmingham, Newcastle or wherever.

Sounds very plausible to me.  Hope this truly is the case and loads are proven wrong.   :033:

Be interesting to see how the club approach Norwich's interest and see what the final fee is if it does get agreed.

Also, if he does leave the club this summer - who do Fulham realistically get in to replace him or where should the money be spent?

I personally haven't got a list of potential names in my head, so any suggestions I'd be interested in hearing about it!

The latest piece on 'The Craven Corner' discusses this a little further:

You can read it here on: thecravencorner.wordpress.com (http://thecravencorner.wordpress.com)

Quote from: Jonaldiniho 88 on July 27, 2016, 01:41:08 PM

Quote from: Carborundum on July 26, 2016, 11:15:14 PM
Good fun thread this.  Social media doing what only social media can.

Let's try a thought experiment.  Imagine a world where Ross is entirely content with his lot, no plans to move from London where he is happily settled.  Future financial security is assured and the club owner seems good for a few bob, so there might be some handy colleagues on the way for a stab at glory this year.  The club feels warmly towards Ross and it's a happy relationship all round.

Only trouble is there's these people who are absolutely intent on claiming that there is a large and deepening wedge in that relationship.  In the long run they are bound to be proven right, because all players leave in the end, but in short run its just not where player or club's head is at.  So, what can be done to correct this misperception?  New contracts, ludicrously high buyout clause, turning up hobbling to friendly games, photos of barbecues....all tried and all merely serve to heighten the speculation.  It's like a waking nightmare....everyone says he's off....despite all efforts to indicate something different.

To be clear, I have absolutely no insight to what is going on.  But wouldn't it be extraordinary if our best player was simply intent on a harmonious and lucrative time settled in West London only to read every night of his impending relocation to Norwich, Birmingham, Newcastle or wherever.

*South west London. That's important. Also it isn't at all. You speak wize words and I agree completely. How dare you be rational.

Wise after the event...but, in reality neither rational, nor wise.
Nogood "just wishful thinking along with an understandably charming touch of naivety perhaps, isit" Boyo