60+ possession or 2/3rds of it if you can convert the chances. Wish the club had kept one of or both of moussa and ross because we've now gone from scoring like gods and conceeding to frequently to having little firepower but a solid defensive unit and midfiled.. it's boardering on the ridiculous. Surely our owners must know you need good enough players at all parts of the pitch.
Why have we bought in 3/4 AM this summer and not one genuine and bonafide striker.. kebano doesn't seem to be a striker.. why can't the balance be found? What is the board doing to be getting such an obvious thing wrong?
Cheer up - we won!!
This is when stats don't show the whole story. If a team defends deep and asks the away team to try and get through them then we have possession and try and break them down. We should be proud that a team is even considering playing like that against us.
Lets just wait and see come what wednesday.I still think theres a trick up the sleeve regards a striker or 2.Lets enjoy the win and more so the clean sheet.
Quote from: General on August 27, 2016, 04:59:06 PM
60+ possession or 2/3rds of it if you can convert the chances. Wish the club had kept one of or both of moussa and ross because we've now gone from scoring like gods and conceeding to frequently to having little firepower but a solid defensive unit and midfiled.. it's boardering on the ridiculous. Surely our owners must know you need good enough players at all parts of the pitch.
Why have we bought in 3/4 AM this summer and not one genuine and bonafide striker.. kebano doesn't seem to be a striker.. why can't the balance be found? What is the board doing to be getting such an obvious thing wrong?
Got some sympathy with your frustration but let's wait until the end of the window. After all, every signing so far looks very decent.
No one going to state that woodrow came on, should of had a penalty, nearly scored one and created the space for cairney's goal by taking two defenders out of it with a clever run. The lad is capable.
Quote from: Lighthouse on August 27, 2016, 05:03:33 PM
This is when stats don't show the whole story. If a team defends deep and asks the away team to try and get through them then we have possession and try and break them down. We should be proud that a team is even considering playing like that against us.
Spot on Correct.
They defended from the off and made it very difficult.
We persevered and got a deserved result. Well done to he boys and backroom.
Other teams we play will be more attacking and as a result more open to our goal getters. We still have a few days and I'm sure we have at least one full-blown striker in the offing.
So, imo, the result today was class in every respect.
Coyw!
Quote from: General on August 27, 2016, 04:59:06 PM
60+ possession or 2/3rds of it if you can convert the chances. Wish the club had kept one of or both of moussa and ross because we've now gone from scoring like gods and conceeding to frequently to having little firepower but a solid defensive unit and midfiled.. it's boardering on the ridiculous. Surely our owners must know you need good enough players at all parts of the pitch.
Why have we bought in 3/4 AM this summer and not one genuine and bonafide striker.. kebano doesn't seem to be a striker.. why can't the balance be found? What is the board doing to be getting such an obvious thing wrong?
it's getting rid of those two that has created the team we have now get over it and enjoy our new future COYW
Quote from: Chutney on August 27, 2016, 05:09:49 PM
No one going to state that woodrow came on, should of had a penalty, nearly scored one and created the space for cairney's goal by taking two defenders out of it with a clever run. The lad is capable.
I can't because I wasn't there, but it did sound like his inclusion changed us for the better.
Quote from: Chutney on August 27, 2016, 05:09:49 PM
No one going to state that woodrow came on, should of had a penalty, nearly scored one and created the space for cairney's goal by taking two defenders out of it with a clever run. The lad is capable.
No one is suggesting he is not capable but neither is the answer (at least not yet).
Stop moaning Grandad, that's all you ever do, try constructing a positive post you might actually like it
Quote from: Statto on August 27, 2016, 05:20:48 PM
I think the club has had a touch. Letting both strikers go without replacing them was criminal. A combination of good luck, easy fixtures and the lads playing above themselves has given us 11 pts from 15m which surely we accept flatters us slightly. But let's not get down about it. I'm optimistic that we'll sign a striker and we've still sigurdsson and johansen to bring in as well. And I expect Ayite, Jozabed and Kebano to get better as they adjust to the championship. So I am thinking about promotion.
Why so negative calling the club which has turned itself around fantastically and calling it criminal. No one here would want last years team.
Dembele was out of contract and wanted to move on, nothing that could be done.
Looks like we've done v well with McC money.
Congratulations to all involved, this year looks fantastic.
we have a multitude of scoring options from midfield and with Jozabed and a couple of the others still finding their feet I think we have done very well. McCormack and Dembele were good but did not really fit into the managers style of play. I would much rather have what I am seeing now to what we had last 2 seasons
Quote from: kevin on August 27, 2016, 05:37:26 PM
we have a multitude of scoring options from midfield and with Jozabed and a couple of the others still finding their feet I think we have done very well. McCormack and Dembele were good but did not really fit into the managers style of play. I would much rather have what I am seeing now to what we had last 2 seasons
Dembele would have done well in this side I think. McCormack perhaps less so as he is more maverick.
Amazing to have quality like Jozabed and LVC to come on late in games.
Ross Mc made us one dimensional and he came to think he was bigger than the club.Great bit of business I think selling him for 12 mill possibly rising to 14 mill.In Slav we trust.Onwards and upwards ftom here in.COYW
Not to derail the topic too much but Ross makes awful club decisions.
Quote from: hopper on August 27, 2016, 06:12:44 PM
Not to derail the topic too much but Ross makes awful club decisions.
Well, he did come to us when we were down and left when we were getting better. So, yea, he makes bad club decisions.
Quote from: hopper on August 27, 2016, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: kevin on August 27, 2016, 05:37:26 PM
we have a multitude of scoring options from midfield and with Jozabed and a couple of the others still finding their feet I think we have done very well. McCormack and Dembele were good but did not really fit into the managers style of play. I would much rather have what I am seeing now to what we had last 2 seasons
Dembele would have done well in this side I think. McCormack perhaps less so as he is more maverick.
Amazing to have quality like Jozabed and LVC to come on late in games.
I agree Dembele would have shone in this team, with some many creative options around him. Nothing we could do about it though.
Terrible decision on his part to go to Celtic, but then I guess not a lot of people could predict how the new Fulham would turn out.
Agreed. Would love to know how Ross feels atm, he must sury feel he made a big mistake. Visit midweek must have hammered that feeling home.
Quote from: hopper on August 27, 2016, 05:41:35 PM
Amazing to have quality like Jozabed and LVC to come on late in games.
This is an excellent point, and could also apply to the subs that didn't come on. The benefits of depth in the squad.
As to Ross; a really good payer for us in a weak team. His heart is where the money is and that is his choice.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on August 27, 2016, 06:32:55 PM
Quote from: Skatzoffc on August 27, 2016, 05:17:53 PM
They defended from the off and made it very difficult.
We persevered and got a deserved result. Well done to he boys and backroom.
Other teams we play will be more attacking and as a result more open to our goal getters. We still have a few days and I'm sure we have at least one full-blown striker in the offing.
So, imo, the result today was class in every respect.
Coyw!
Especially the timing.
But will they? If two points against us is seen as a good result then we have to face problems we haven't had in a while. We are clearly not close to blowing teams out the water.
We are a million miles further this season ,Ross n moussa went .There choice not the clubs,we all move on.
To promotion !
Quote from: Statto on August 27, 2016, 05:20:48 PM
I think the club has had a touch. Letting both strikers go without replacing them was criminal. A combination of good luck, easy fixtures and the lads playing above themselves has given us 11 pts from 15m which surely we accept flatters us slightly. But let's not get down about it. I'm optimistic that we'll sign a striker and we've still sigurdsson and johansen to bring in as well. And I expect Ayite, Jozabed and Kebano to get better as they adjust to the championship. So I am thinking about promotion.
Not sure they have all been easy fixtures, they weren't on paper when the fixture list was published, I thought we would be on between 2 and 5 points at this stage. 11 points out of 15 may seem flattering, but we could and maybe should have had a 100% record if we had been awarded the penalties that we should have had.
Quote from: General on August 27, 2016, 04:59:06 PM
60+ possession or 2/3rds of it if you can convert the chances. Wish the club had kept one of or both of moussa and ross because we've now gone from scoring like gods and conceeding to frequently to having little firepower but a solid defensive unit and midfiled.. it's boardering on the ridiculous. Surely our owners must know you need good enough players at all parts of the pitch.
Why have we bought in 3/4 AM this summer and not one genuine and bonafide striker.. kebano doesn't seem to be a striker.. why can't the balance be found? What is the board doing to be getting such an obvious thing wrong?
One could make a strong argument that the reason we have "a solid defensive unit" is because we have lost Moss and Roussa.
Nogood "defence begins from the front, see" Boyo
1-0 away at Blackburn? Id take it any day of the week. Even if the goal was slightly fortunate, Cairney was there to put it away. For the past three years we have failed to finish games. We have had a great start, we know that good starts are paramount. Even if promotion isnt achieved (considering most of us see it as an unrealistic target this year) we are starting to see a team take shape, something we have been begging for since before we went down.
I think the biggest worry before the season started was " Where will the goals come from" even this is the premise of your post. We are starting to see that they can come from anyone and do not have to rely on one or two players to do so. The goals are spread out and our current top scorers of which there are 3 (all on 2) only one of them could be considered "first choice" That is extremely encouraging.
We have had 12 players come in, we had similar last year and the year before that and look how we started. I am slowly sipping on the kool-aid (american for taking in the propaganda) but if they continue like this, I may have to start buying it in gallons. Full credit to Slavisa Jokanovic for getting the team to play as one.
The window hasnt closed and some outlets are reporting a few more players, particularly forwards, to come in. These are the same that had picked Siggurdson etc to sign. Everything is encouraging, I am cautiously waiting until the end of September to set my target.
Quote from: General on August 27, 2016, 04:59:06 PM
60+ possession or 2/3rds of it if you can convert the chances. Wish the club had kept one of or both of moussa and ross because we've now gone from scoring like gods and conceeding to frequently to having little firepower but a solid defensive unit and midfiled.. it's boardering on the ridiculous. Surely our owners must know you need good enough players at all parts of the pitch.
Why have we bought in 3/4 AM this summer and not one genuine and bonafide striker.. kebano doesn't seem to be a striker.. why can't the balance be found? What is the board doing to be getting such an obvious thing wrong?
We are 2nd in the league, stop moaning...
