Just seen this whilst searching for Fulham news. Not the most reliable source but is there anything in this?
https://www.thesun.co.uk/uncategorized/2502937/fulhams-on-loan-striker-chris-martin-tells-club-he-wants-to-end-spell-and-return-to-derby-immediately/ (https://www.thesun.co.uk/uncategorized/2502937/fulhams-on-loan-striker-chris-martin-tells-club-he-wants-to-end-spell-and-return-to-derby-immediately/)
Slow news day for the Scum I hope
Well unfortunately it is a long the lines of what I've been told. But so much changes hour by hour in football that it's not worth worrying about. If he does leave, I have faith that slavisa will get someone in. Just another reason as to why I hate loans though
Derby want him back. Let's leak a story and unsettle the camp.
I would be rather gutted if he does leave now but I guess the only real way we will know if it is true or not is if he is on the teamsheet tonight.
Very rare for a player to refuse to play but that is the case for Chris Martin tonight. Fulham not impressed - certain to go back to Derby
Very angry at this. Didnt like Martin when we signed him and this had made me very angry, disrupting the team. Fair if he wants to go back but never refuse to play for Fulham.
Strangely there is nothing about this on the Derby fan websites.....
Quote from: @jolslover on December 30, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
Very rare for a player to refuse to play but that is the case for Chris Martin tonight. Fulham not impressed - certain to go back to Derby
Very angry at this. Didnt like Martin when we signed him and this had made me very angry, disrupting the team. Fair if he wants to go back but never refuse to play for Fulham.
not that rare for us. Steed dempsey and Sahara spring to mind
Stephen Hughes refused to sit on our bench too did he not
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on December 30, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
Very rare for a player to refuse to play but that is the case for Chris Martin tonight. Fulham not impressed - certain to go back to Derby
Very angry at this. Didnt like Martin when we signed him and this had made me very angry, disrupting the team. Fair if he wants to go back but never refuse to play for Fulham.
not that rare for us. Steed dempsey and Sahara spring to mind
Was just copying what the journalist said ahah, my bit was at the bottom.
Quote from: @jolslover on December 30, 2016, 03:06:52 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 03:04:51 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on December 30, 2016, 03:02:05 PM
Very rare for a player to refuse to play but that is the case for Chris Martin tonight. Fulham not impressed - certain to go back to Derby
Very angry at this. Didnt like Martin when we signed him and this had made me very angry, disrupting the team. Fair if he wants to go back but never refuse to play for Fulham.
not that rare for us. Steed dempsey and Sahara spring to mind
Was just copying what the journalist said ahah, my bit was at the bottom.
Fair enough, just thought I'd throw a few out there. Could probably add step and mitroglu to that list too
get Jordan Rhodes in....
Quote from: jarv on December 30, 2016, 03:10:26 PM
get Jordan Rhodes in....
not sure he would fit our style. His less mobile than Martin. Big powerful pacey striker is what we need. Along the lines of lukaku if you ask me
Martin is on a season long loan, agreed by all 3 parties, we paid a 3.6M loan fee. For Chris Martin to go back in Jan, all 3 parties would have to be in agreement, and the loan fee re-paid in full, plus comp (from what I've been told).
Not as easy as Martin Turning around and saying 'I don't want to play' or 'I want to go back' unfortunately. Plus, it ain't even January yet??
Someone is stirring the pot here either a) to unsettle the player, or b) force Fulham's hand to buy in January.
Dont know why people think the story is false.. They have come out and said he has refused to play in tonight's game. Why would a journalist risk his reputation reporting something that will be proved true/false in about 5 hours...
The article cites family reasons as part of it, so you can empathise a little with that. However, refusing to play is absolutely ridiculous. Good riddance to him if true.
Quote from: TXWhite on December 30, 2016, 03:25:30 PM
The article cites family reasons as part of it, so you can empathise a little with that. However, refusing to play is absolutely ridiculous. Good riddance to him if true.
Agree
Quote from: @jolslover on December 30, 2016, 03:29:47 PM
Quote from: TXWhite on December 30, 2016, 03:25:30 PM
The article cites family reasons as part of it, so you can empathise a little with that. However, refusing to play is absolutely ridiculous. Good riddance to him if true.
Agree
If by family reasons you mean bumper new contract, then yes I emphasise with him
Quote from: Statto on December 30, 2016, 03:33:08 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on December 30, 2016, 03:25:20 PM
Dont know why people think the story is false.. They have come out and said he has refused to play in tonight's game. Why would a journalist risk his reputation reporting something that will be proved true/false in about 5 hours...
call me old fashioned but i struggle to take a story seriously when for no apparent reason it has a video in the middle of it captioned "Annoyed former football club chairman hits reporter in the balls during an interview"
by your logic we should believe anything that any sports journalist writes
we're still favourites with the bookies so they're obviously not buying it, and they generally know as well as anyone
maybe it's true. i hope not and doubt it. but who knows. as you say we'll soon see
he probably got his story from the humphrys thread too. Lot of smoke out there though. Still at least we will know in 3 and a half hours
Quote from: Wearethewhites on December 30, 2016, 03:15:45 PM
Martin is on a season long loan, agreed by all 3 parties, we paid a 3.6M loan fee. For Chris Martin to go back in Jan, all 3 parties would have to be in agreement, and the loan fee re-paid in full, plus comp (from what I've been told).
Not as easy as Martin Turning around and saying 'I don't want to play' or 'I want to go back' unfortunately. Plus, it ain't even January yet??
Someone is stirring the pot here either a) to unsettle the player, or b) force Fulham's hand to buy in January.
Yep, I would be very surprised if he actually refused to play just because he would prefer to go back. Very extreme bearing in mind its Derby and not a decent Prem team. Anyway, we'll know soon enough, but my gut feeling is that it's rubbish...
****Breaking Team news for Tonight****
Martin not even on the bench...... due to injury??
Believe what you like out of that!
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 30, 2016, 03:38:58 PM
****Breaking Team news for Tonight****
Martin not even on the bench...... due to injury??
Believe what you like out of that!
breaking where
Quote from: Statto on December 30, 2016, 03:33:08 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on December 30, 2016, 03:25:20 PM
Dont know why people think the story is false.. They have come out and said he has refused to play in tonight's game. Why would a journalist risk his reputation reporting something that will be proved true/false in about 5 hours...
call me old fashioned but i struggle to take a story seriously when for no apparent reason it has a video in the middle of it captioned "Annoyed former football club chairman hits reporter in the balls during an interview"
by your logic we should believe anything that any sports journalist writes
we're still favourites with the bookies so they're obviously not buying it, and they generally know as well as anyone
maybe it's true. i hope not and doubt it. but who knows. as you say we'll soon see
It's very different. Any journalist can say **** in talks with **** and if it doesnt come off just say that it fell through. Easy. Here he will be proved correct or false in 5 hours. SO I definitely reckon it is real.
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 03:41:37 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 30, 2016, 03:38:58 PM
****Breaking Team news for Tonight****
Martin not even on the bench...... due to injury??
Believe what you like out of that!
breaking where
I just broke it..... So it's as good as any other report read anywhere else!
If it does not happen, obviously the Cheese worked!
IF he has said that he wants to end his loan spell due to family reasons then the club will no doubt have saved the money in buying him at the end of the season. If we have paid a loan fee for the season then we will no doubt have a legal right to get some of it back. We would need to spend money on a couple of forwards. It clearly is not good news.
If Martin has said he refuses to play then he can be sued by the club for breaking contracts. What is sad is that Derbys new manager has clearly made a point that he wants Martin back and that is typical of the way football is run. Contracts and deals mean sod all. Our game is dirty.
What with losing the odd playing to the African thingy and now this story. It is typical of the way things happen at Fulham. Things going ok, time for something off the field to sod it up. But we will find a way hopefully of getting round it.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 30, 2016, 03:45:42 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 03:41:37 PM
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 30, 2016, 03:38:58 PM
****Breaking Team news for Tonight****
Martin not even on the bench...... due to injury??
Believe what you like out of that!
breaking where
I just broke it..... So it's as good as any other report read anywhere else!
If it does not happen, obviously the Cheese worked!
lol
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 02:48:00 PM
Well unfortunately it is a long the lines of what I've been told. But so much changes hour by hour in football that it's not worth worrying about. If he does leave, I have faith that slavisa will get someone in. Just another reason as to why I hate loans though
Who told you that? mike Rigg?
Have the press finally cottoned on today that we are a challenger for the play off spots and declared today 'National Derail Fulham's Promotion Push Day' ?
http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/striker-blow-fulham-ahead-reading-12387038 (http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/striker-blow-fulham-ahead-reading-12387038)
Get West now reporting.
Quote from: Southfield White on December 30, 2016, 03:46:41 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 02:48:00 PM
Well unfortunately it is a long the lines of what I've been told. But so much changes hour by hour in football that it's not worth worrying about. If he does leave, I have faith that slavisa will get someone in. Just another reason as to why I hate loans though
Who told you that? mike Rigg?
from Rigg yes. New contract not family reasons though
If it's true I won't lose any sleep over it. Never really been that impressed with him and there's no way he's worth forking out £9m for next month.
Quote from: Buffalo76 on December 30, 2016, 03:58:38 PM
If it's true I won't lose any sleep over it. Never really been that impressed with him and there's no way he's worth forking out £9m for next month.
Yes I'm with you. Play humphrys tonight, get the loan fee back and half his wages, and go by a decent striker who does want to be here ( if it's true mind)
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 03:57:57 PM
Quote from: Southfield White on December 30, 2016, 03:46:41 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 02:48:00 PM
Well unfortunately it is a long the lines of what I've been told. But so much changes hour by hour in football that it's not worth worrying about. If he does leave, I have faith that slavisa will get someone in. Just another reason as to why I hate loans though
Who told you that? mike Rigg?
from Rigg yes. New contract not family reasons though
Sorry, not doubting you but quite the opposite to what I've been told
Quote from: Southfield White on December 30, 2016, 04:01:34 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 03:57:57 PM
Quote from: Southfield White on December 30, 2016, 03:46:41 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 02:48:00 PM
Well unfortunately it is a long the lines of what I've been told. But so much changes hour by hour in football that it's not worth worrying about. If he does leave, I have faith that slavisa will get someone in. Just another reason as to why I hate loans though
Who told you that? mike Rigg?
from Rigg yes. New contract not family reasons though
Sorry, not doubting you but quite the opposite to what I've been told
like I said in humphrys topic, my news is about two weeks old and alot can change in that time. Including Rigg leaving
Well if this true, we won't let this prevent us from moving up the table in the next few months. So then we move on. An opportunity for another forward, and Fulham should be bending over backwards to bring another striker in ASAP, and preferably a permanent deal.
Chelsea striker Patrick Bamford could end his season long loan at Burnley and be heading for Fulham on loan. According to reports.
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 30, 2016, 04:08:31 PM
Chelsea striker Patrick Bamford could end his season long loan at Burnley and be heading for Fulham on loan. According to reports.
that will please Tunni.
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 30, 2016, 04:08:31 PM
Chelsea striker Patrick Bamford could end his season long loan at Burnley and be heading for Fulham on loan. According to reports.
Would love this. big fan
Breaking news Fulham sign free agent Natiova Natrasilovan former Wolfsburg
Tea Lady.
Set to start up front for Fulham at Reading tonight.Coyw
Alan Nixon (fairly reliable journalist) has responded to questions on it. Allegedly there is a story behind the story and he is pushing for a long term contract, whether it is from Derby or Fulham, and he will stay with Fulham on loan since Fulham have no intention of letting him leave.
Still, why on earth would you go on strike (no pun intended)? The whole situation seems bizarre.
Also, if he does refuse to play, Fulham should keep him and let him rot with the youth team for 6 months - see what that does for his intentions of a big contract.
Quote from: @jolslover on December 30, 2016, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 30, 2016, 04:08:31 PM
Chelsea striker Patrick Bamford could end his season long loan at Burnley and be heading for Fulham on loan. According to reports.
Would love this. big fan
What he useless...Overrated tosh,how many has he scored in last year,rather give Cauley a chance.
IF it is true that he is refusing to play we need to get the loan fee refunded and send him back
Nobody is bigger that the team . Berba and McCormack both destabilised the team and we are better without them . And Martin is not a good as either .
HOWEVER I hope it is not true and that he is a real professional and wants to play.
Really don't understand why Martin would do this now, can understand if it was next Tuesday when the Window opens, but what is he gaining by throwing a tantrum now, his profession is playing football for a living and his contract is until May!
Think it is paper trash talk again.
Ps Nothing at all on Sky Sports News all afternoon!
Quote from: brightster on December 30, 2016, 04:17:04 PM
Really don't understand why Martin would do this now, can understand if it was next Tuesday when the Window opens, but what is he gaining by throwing a tantrum now, his profession is playing football for a living and his contract is until May!
Think it is paper trash talk again.
not risking injury would be a factor.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 30, 2016, 04:16:08 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on December 30, 2016, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 30, 2016, 04:08:31 PM
Chelsea striker Patrick Bamford could end his season long loan at Burnley and be heading for Fulham on loan. According to reports.
Would love this. big fan
What he useless...Overrated tosh,how many has he scored in last year,rather give Cauley a chance.
ahaha he hasnt been playing, Tore apart the champ at boro, miles ahead of Woodrow who is league 1 quality.
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 04:19:11 PM
Quote from: brightster on December 30, 2016, 04:17:04 PM
Really don't understand why Martin would do this now, can understand if it was next Tuesday when the Window opens, but what is he gaining by throwing a tantrum now, his profession is playing football for a living and his contract is until May!
Think it is paper trash talk again.
not risking injury would be a factor.
Wouldn't Derby want him to play and score against Reading and Brighton if they think he is that good!
Quote from: @jolslover on December 30, 2016, 04:20:26 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 30, 2016, 04:16:08 PM
Quote from: @jolslover on December 30, 2016, 04:12:58 PM
Quote from: Lighthouse on December 30, 2016, 04:08:31 PM
Chelsea striker Patrick Bamford could end his season long loan at Burnley and be heading for Fulham on loan. According to reports.
Would love this. big fan
What he useless...Overrated tosh,how many has he scored in last year,rather give Cauley a chance.
ahaha he hasnt been playing, Tore apart the champ at boro, miles ahead of Woodrow who is league 1 quality.
And that's what I'm getting at he is as good as Cauley
I have had my suspicions about Chris Martin for quite a while now and if I can pick up on the little things with a lot less evidence than coaching staff and team mates then I must say I am still very surprised and shocked with how all this has suddenly come to light. If there is truth in it then there is much more to it than meets the eye and so expect some more revelations if he doesn't play tonight (the fog is closing in on the south east and so the match may be postponed anyway).
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 04:00:32 PM
Quote from: Buffalo76 on December 30, 2016, 03:58:38 PM
If it's true I won't lose any sleep over it. Never really been that impressed with him and there's no way he's worth forking out £9m for next month.
Yes I'm with you. Play humphrys tonight, get the loan fee back and half his wages, and go by a decent striker who does want to be here ( if it's true mind)
If the report is true then I fully agree, what a time for Martin to act like this. Hard to believe that a professional would behave in this manner, it should put all clubs off him for a couple of years.
I wouldn't mind Patrick Bamford. But for tonight if Martin does not play for the reasons quoted. Then will Jok go with Piazon as he did against Derby County, or Cauley or Smith, or would imagine Humphries will start on the bench anyway whatever happens. But at least the Manager has options. Nevertheless, all this could just be a storm in a tea cup, Hilda the tea lady can confirm. Or it's mischief making by a desperate journalist.
If all of this is factual then I hope that Martin has been shown the door and is on his way back to Derby and that it has been made clear to him that we never wish to see him at the Cottage again. We can't have highly paid players behaving like this just before a key match.
Normally I wouldn't believe such a report, but surely no journalist would write such a damaging report unless there was a large element of truth there.
The teams will be announced within the next 2 hours, if Martin is in the line up then he will be entitled to a number of apologies.
I wouldn't believe a thing the Sun writes.
We'll know if it's true when we see tonight's line up anyway.
If this is true then, as has been said above, we should tell Derby where to go and put Martin in the U23s for 6 months and far away from the 1st team. Spend the balance on what we would have paid for him for a permanent deal towards a striker who wants to come and show what he can do.
Quote from: brightster on December 30, 2016, 04:17:04 PM
Really don't understand why Martin would do this now, can understand if it was next Tuesday when the Window opens, but what is he gaining by throwing a tantrum now, his profession is playing football for a living and his contract is until May!
Think it is paper trash talk again.
Ps Nothing at all on Sky Sports News all afternoon!
If he plays and gets injured then derby won't want him back, its not worth the risk from his point of view (if true).
Quote from: gezkc on December 30, 2016, 05:18:00 PM
I wouldn't believe a thing the Sun writes.
We'll know if it's true when we see tonight's line up anyway.
If it's in the Sun, Mirror or Star then just ignore pleeeease!
People getting upset too early for me - IF and that's a big if, theirs any truth in this then we can start with the abuse but not before.
It may be possible that he has said that now whispering lobster face is back at Derby, he would like to go back...
But I'd be extremely surprised if he's actually stated that he refuses to play.
Team in - no Martin. Guess the Sun was right. No words.
they could have been right, or perhaps he got injured in training, hoping for the latter but either way the club need to say something
Quote from: westcliff white on December 30, 2016, 07:02:47 PM
they could have been right, or perhaps he got injured in training, hoping for the latter but either way the club need to say something
Joka said clean bill of health for whole squad (minus kalas) after training in press conference yesterday.
Quote from: alexbishop on December 30, 2016, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on December 30, 2016, 07:02:47 PM
they could have been right, or perhaps he got injured in training, hoping for the latter but either way the club need to say something
Joka said clean bill of health for whole squad (minus kalas) after training in press conference yesterday.
and rigg said he was going back two weeks ago. hes gone, and good riddance. if he dont want to be here, then f%$£ him
Oh dear, there be trouble brewing. The club must say something about this.
Ffs just when things start looking up!
Quote from: Statto on December 30, 2016, 07:06:44 PM
Quote from: alexbishop on December 30, 2016, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on December 30, 2016, 07:02:47 PM
they could have been right, or perhaps he got injured in training, hoping for the latter but either way the club need to say something
Joka said clean bill of health for whole squad (minus kalas) after training in press conference yesterday.
Even if they come out and said he was injured now I wouldn't believe, like when McCormack got "injured" just before signing a new contract this time last year
I wouldn't either Statto
But he could have got injured since yesterday, or perhaps Joka didn't want to give anything away.
Quote from: cookieg on December 30, 2016, 05:23:08 PM
If this is true then, as has been said above, we should tell Derby where to go and put Martin in the U23s for 6 months and far away from the 1st team. Spend the balance on what we would have paid for him for a permanent deal towards a striker who wants to come and show what he can do.
:plus one:
Martin can shove off. I want us to recoup as much payment as possible or just let him rot in the U23s. I hope I am horribly wrong but something like this would happen to us as things were looking up.
If trus then Martin needs a good kicking and whispering lobster is a disgrace and should be reported to the football league!
Tom Moore @TomMooreJourno 3m3 minutes ago
UPDATE: Fulham confirm that Chris Martin is 'NOT INJURED'. Slavisa Jokanovic will clarify the situation post match
Isn't this how we ended up with Ryan Fredericks?
Let's hope the defence keeps a clean sheet.
Quote from: maoconnor on December 30, 2016, 07:09:27 PM
Martin can shove off. I want us to recoup as much payment as possible or just let him rot in the U23s. I hope I am horribly wrong but something like this would happen to us as things were looking up.
we got all of the fee and 50% of his wages back from what i heard
Let him rot in the under 23's. Effing disgrace!!
This will give Reading the opinion that we are in turmoil and could boost them!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 30, 2016, 07:13:35 PM
This will give Reading the opinion that we are in turmoil and could boost them!
to be fair we looked fantastic going forwards last time we played with this team. will be much more mobile
Maybe Martin could has had a bereavement or something.
Why would he suddenly decide he wanted to go back? It's a shock when things seemed to be going so well for us.
Got to hope that Piazon plays a blinder!!
COYW
Quote from: Statto on December 30, 2016, 07:09:43 PM
With our transfer record we are looking at August and September all over again. A month with Matt smith up front and then another month waiting for a new signing to adapt. Season over sorry
That's what worries me.
We're hardly the slickest in the transfer market, or anywhere else for that matter.
I can see another deaperate deadline day loan deal happening here.
I'm not overly disappointed to lose Martin but he's the only championship quality forward we have unfortunately.
Quote from: RaySmith on December 30, 2016, 07:15:20 PM
Maybe Martin could has had a bereavement or something.
Why would he suddenly decide he wanted to go back? It's a shock when things seemed to be going so well for us.
what makes you think its sudden? my news came from two weeks ago, so you can bet it was decided long before that too
For half of the time with us we thought he was poo. So he is no loss, but I would place him in the U23s and let him rot for the rest of the season. However we could use his wages on someone better and more worthy of wearing the white shirt
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 07:14:24 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 30, 2016, 07:13:35 PM
This will give Reading the opinion that we are in turmoil and could boost them!
to be fair we looked fantastic going forwards last time we played with this team. will be much more mobile
I agree about being more mobile and not bothered about Martin, apart from his using us. We surely can find a good striker or two for the 9 mil - maybe abroad or lower leagues or just one 'known'. I also like the fact that Slavisa has already said Humphries will get more game time and trusts that he has the potential.
Send the tosser back , forget him and move on.Up the whites.
Aluko, Ayite, Cairney, Johansen, McDonald - these are the five key players whose technical ability gives us the edge. Piazon may not be as good a goalscorer as Martin, but his technique means that he can fit in with little disruption to our style of play. Let's have some faith in the lads; we're not going to suddenly become a pile of horse manure just because Martin's not in the line-up.
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: maoconnor on December 30, 2016, 07:09:27 PM
Martin can shove off. I want us to recoup as much payment as possible or just let him rot in the U23s. I hope I am horribly wrong but something like this would happen to us as things were looking up.
we got all of the fee and 50% of his wages back from what i heard
that is what was rumoured to have been offered by Derby when the approached us when McLaren first took over, ,at not be the case now
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 07:16:38 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on December 30, 2016, 07:15:20 PM
Maybe Martin could has had a bereavement or something.
Why would he suddenly decide he wanted to go back? It's a shock when things seemed to be going so well for us.
what makes you think its sudden? my news came from two weeks ago, so you can bet it was decided long before that too
Then why has he played since then? seems strange to me but it is what it is
fat bell end, and his chancer free kicks. Clearly been tapped up by Mclaren in his double sexy dutch voice over to come back. Lets move on in the window and get a striker that has the lot, pace included. Smell you later Martin you muppet.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 30, 2016, 07:24:44 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 07:16:38 PM
Quote from: RaySmith on December 30, 2016, 07:15:20 PM
Maybe Martin could has had a bereavement or something.
Why would he suddenly decide he wanted to go back? It's a shock when things seemed to be going so well for us.
what makes you think its sudden? my news came from two weeks ago, so you can bet it was decided long before that too
Then why has he played since then? seems strange to me but it is what it is
why do players suddenly ease up the game before a cup final and not weeks before? who knows why now, but it has been on the cards, and maybe not finalised till today.
Defoe deal needs sorting out asap!!
COYW
all seems strange to me but as I say it is what it is
Quote from: westcliff white on December 30, 2016, 07:28:30 PM
all seems strange to me but as I say it is what it is
its not really strange though. his team where his family live want him back and have offered bumper new deal. plus derby are above us in the league. if shoe were on other foot, none of us would think it strange.
Sounds easy to say now.. but I never quite trusted him... Something about his face.
I feel sick to the stomach over it all as I championed him to come here the player I wanted.
I can't believe he has turned round and done this to us before a big game like this...Aaaaaaargh.
Quote from: spoonffc on December 30, 2016, 07:33:32 PM
Sounds easy to say now.. but I never quite trusted him... Something about his face.
That's got to be the most stupid remark
Of the year.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 30, 2016, 07:34:21 PM
I feel sick to the stomach over it all as I championed him to come here the player I wanted.
I can't believe he has turned round and done this to us before a big game like this...Aaaaaaargh.
come over to the martins sh!" brigrade. you will feel a lot better ;)
Sooo many conclusions been jumped to on this topic, we'll all know soon enough.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 30, 2016, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: spoonffc on December 30, 2016, 07:33:32 PM
Sounds easy to say now.. but I never quite trusted him... Something about his face.
That's got to be the most stupid remark
Of the year.
more so than martin will be fantastic for us :005:
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 07:12:06 PM
Quote from: maoconnor on December 30, 2016, 07:09:27 PM
Martin can shove off. I want us to recoup as much payment as possible or just let him rot in the U23s. I hope I am horribly wrong but something like this would happen to us as things were looking up.
we got all of the fee and 50% of his wages back from what i heard
If Martin is indeed off of his own choosing, then this is very good business. Sure sucks that he's decided to throw a wrench into the works of his own team but, he's made his character known (better off w/o him in the long run). He's helped get us into the top half, within touching distance of top 6 and it's only cost us a quarter of his annual wages. And, if what you've said, Ben, about this being decided some time ago, which makes sense, is true, then it would also make sense that we have a plan for his replacement. Hope that whomever it is is willing and able.
9 million back in play for a replacement striker. We'll be fine. Have faith and COYW!!!
I thought a season long loan explained itself. If he's forced a change then he is no professional and hope he gets loaned to Qpr.
Whatever happened to integrity?
Quote from: Barrett487 on December 30, 2016, 07:46:47 PM
I thought a season long loan explained itself. If he's forced a change then he is no professional and hope he gets loaned to Qpr.
Whatever happened to integrity?
we have recalled many a player back from season long loans over the years. think stockdale might have been the last. it happens, what counts is what we do next.
Got to be something else wrong here when I saw him celebrating at Ipswich with Sigg...Something doesn't feel right.
Well if he is off then so be it that's football, get Rhoads in and another and we will continue scoring for sure. The service we are providing in games for strikers is good so we have a good chance of getting someone decent in!
COYW
He wasnt all that, its not a great loss
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on December 30, 2016, 07:46:47 PM
I thought a season long loan explained itself. If he's forced a change then he is no professional and hope he gets loaned to Qpr.
Whatever happened to integrity?
we have recalled many a player back from season long loans over the years. think stockdale might have been the last. it happens, what counts is what we do next.
Ok, but usually it's because of injury and squad issues. This doesn't give the same vibes. There must have been a clause in the contract imo, that would allow this to happen....so why the fee? how much do we get back?
Quote from: Barrett487 on December 30, 2016, 08:02:00 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 07:49:36 PM
Quote from: Barrett487 on December 30, 2016, 07:46:47 PM
I thought a season long loan explained itself. If he's forced a change then he is no professional and hope he gets loaned to Qpr.
Whatever happened to integrity?
we have recalled many a player back from season long loans over the years. think stockdale might have been the last. it happens, what counts is what we do next.
Ok, but usually it's because of injury and squad issues. This doesn't give the same vibes. There must have been a clause in the contract imo, that would allow this to happen....so why the fee? how much do we get back?
all of the fee and half the wages spent
Very strange and disappointing. I wonder who pushed for this to happen - Derby, Martin or both?
It'll be interesting to hear what Joka says post match.
Lets move on, he's not even that good.
two comments, after reading this entire thread and while we're all waiting Slava's post-match remarks:
1. Why are we pretending that we're going to sign Defoe in January?
2. DEMPSEY DIDN'T REFUSE TO PLAY before the transfer to Tottenham.
Quote from: HatterDon on December 30, 2016, 08:22:42 PM
two comments, after reading this entire thread and while we're all waiting Slava's post-match remarks:
1. Why are we pretending that we're going to sign Defoe in January?
2. DEMPSEY DIDN'T REFUSE TO PLAY before the transfer to Tottenham.
dempsey went on strike.
Think Derby have really done the dirty on us here. Could have waited til january but they might just have timed it to cause maximum disruption before our games against reading and brighton. Lets see what is said post-match..
Quote from: Statto on December 30, 2016, 08:31:20 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 08:26:03 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on December 30, 2016, 08:22:42 PM
two comments, after reading this entire thread and while we're all waiting Slava's post-match remarks:
1. Why are we pretending that we're going to sign Defoe in January?
2. DEMPSEY DIDN'T REFUSE TO PLAY before the transfer to Tottenham.
dempsey went on strike.
didn't we actually fine him for it? thought jol came out and said it. vaguely remember dempsey saying the "truth" would be revealed later... still waiting for that mate
the truth was that we said he could leave for a champions league team. shame that none wanted him so he sulked and touted himself around liverpool and spurs
He ants out for Family reasons? Your family are a train ride away, and it was a season loan, it's not like he's signed a 5 yr contract in Australia.
Even if that's an excuse, it says a lot about mental character, and his desire to play for Fulham.
The situation is about as clear as the fog on the pitch
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 08:33:20 PM
Quote from: Statto on December 30, 2016, 08:31:20 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 08:26:03 PM
Quote from: HatterDon on December 30, 2016, 08:22:42 PM
two comments, after reading this entire thread and while we're all waiting Slava's post-match remarks:
1. Why are we pretending that we're going to sign Defoe in January?
2. DEMPSEY DIDN'T REFUSE TO PLAY before the transfer to Tottenham.
dempsey went on strike.
didn't we actually fine him for it? thought jol came out and said it. vaguely remember dempsey saying the "truth" would be revealed later... still waiting for that mate
the truth was that we said he could leave for a champions league team. shame that none wanted him so he sulked and touted himself around liverpool and spurs
The truth is that we had agreed-in-principle a deal with Liverpool. An idiot at the American sports business company owned by Gillette leaked the news in the US. This seriously pissed off MAF who killed the deal. Dempsey was sent to work out with the kids as MAF obviously believed he was behind the leak. The result was we got less cash from Spuds than we were going to get from Liverpool.
I can understand MAF's anger, as prices go up for attacking mids if everyone knows you're transferring the one you've been depending on. The fact is that everyone except for Tottenham suffered from the screw up in the States.
Believe that or don't; it don't matter to me.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 30, 2016, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: spoonffc on December 30, 2016, 07:33:32 PM
Sounds easy to say now.. but I never quite trusted him... Something about his face.
That's got to be the most stupid remark
Of the year.
There's time for more! - but thank you, very kind. My biggest regret is not informing the club before of my feelings, maybe then we would have gone for Carlton Cole or stopped Bobby Zamora from retiring
Quote from: spoonffc on December 30, 2016, 07:33:32 PM
Sounds easy to say now.. but I never quite trusted him... Something about his face.
Eyes too close together! I know what you are saying ;)
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 30, 2016, 07:35:32 PM
Quote from: spoonffc on December 30, 2016, 07:33:32 PM
Sounds easy to say now.. but I never quite trusted him... Something about his face.
That's got to be the most stupid remark
Of the year.
I understand that politics are taboo here but, you've obviously ignored them altogether or wiped A TON of remarks from your memory somehow.
Right, seems like Mr Martin and Derby have played their hands. There is absolutely no rush for Fulham to agree to return him. We can sign a top striker who will know that they will be #1 for this season. Let CM dangle for a bit. Let Derby play a few games with Bent up top instead of him. Hope they drop points. Then do the deal at a point that suits us or not at all.
Mr Khan has sufficient money that Chris Martin can rot in our reserves for six months if it pleases him. In similar circumstances Mr Al Fayed would surely have been tempted.
Chris Martin is a good striker, but he's no messiah.
It does seem a bit strange that with McClaren now back at Derby, who didn't loan Martin out, and them quite clearly admiring each other, that this news has now broken. Call me cynical but I would think McClaren has given Martin a call and said you can come back and we'll make a push for the Prem. At the least it will unsettle us ahead of our games against Reading and Brighton, although our game tonight may not be completed. Joca is not keen to do so!
Quote from: Carborundum on December 30, 2016, 08:54:59 PM
Right, seems like Mr Martin and Derby have played their hands. There is absolutely no rush for Fulham to agree to return him. We can sign a top striker who will know that they will be #1 for this season. Let CM dangle for a bit. Let Derby play a few games with Bent up top instead of him. Hope they drop points. Then do the deal at a point that suits us or not at all.
Mr Khan has sufficient money that Chris Martin can rot in our reserves for six months if it pleases him. In similar circumstances Mr Al Fayed would surely have been tempted.
Chris Martin is a good striker, but he's no messiah.
The problem of us playing silly buggers with Derby, mean that the next time we want to 'Loan' a player, other teams could well think twice about doing business with us. We have recalled players in the past who were away on loan, so it is what it is.
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 30, 2016, 09:13:49 PM
Quote from: Carborundum on December 30, 2016, 08:54:59 PM
Right, seems like Mr Martin and Derby have played their hands. There is absolutely no rush for Fulham to agree to return him. We can sign a top striker who will know that they will be #1 for this season. Let CM dangle for a bit. Let Derby play a few games with Bent up top instead of him. Hope they drop points. Then do the deal at a point that suits us or not at all.
Mr Khan has sufficient money that Chris Martin can rot in our reserves for six months if it pleases him. In similar circumstances Mr Al Fayed would surely have been tempted.
Chris Martin is a good striker, but he's no messiah.
The problem of us playing silly buggers with Derby, mean that the next time we want to 'Loan' a player, other teams could well think twice about doing business with us. We have recalled players in the past who were away on loan, so it is what it is.
I can only remember us doing that for injuries or because the player wasn't being used -- the former mostly with keepers.
Joka has said he expects Martin to be available to work tomorrow as he is a Fulham player till the end of the season
Quote from: westcliff white on December 30, 2016, 09:29:14 PM
Joka has said he expects Martin to be available to work tomorrow as he is a Fulham player till the end of the season
hmm, is that now in our best interest.
Quote from: westcliff white on December 30, 2016, 09:29:14 PM
Joka has said he expects Martin to be available to work tomorrow as he is a Fulham player till the end of the season
Where did he say this? Was it after tonight's game (1/2)
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on December 30, 2016, 09:29:14 PM
Joka has said he expects Martin to be available to work tomorrow as he is a Fulham player till the end of the season
hmm, is that now in our best interest.
If Derby want him back play hard ball and get our money back, so possibly yes. Also, for me at least, we need to show we are not a club that will roll over and be pushed around
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on December 30, 2016, 09:29:14 PM
Joka has said he expects Martin to be available to work tomorrow as he is a Fulham player till the end of the season
hmm, is that now in our best interest.
Well, the toilets need cleaning for starters.
BBC London Sport @BBCLondonSport 2m2 minutes ago
JOKANOVIC ON MARTIN: "I had information from medical staff that he was unable to play...he decided to take one day off" #FulhamFC #FFC
Quote from: westcliff white on December 30, 2016, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on December 30, 2016, 09:29:14 PM
Joka has said he expects Martin to be available to work tomorrow as he is a Fulham player till the end of the season
hmm, is that now in our best interest.
If Derby want him back play hard ball and get our money back, so possibly yes. Also, for me at least, we need to show we are not a club that will roll over and be pushed around
Sign him for the rest of the £9m and offer to sell him back for £12m
Quote from: westcliff white on December 30, 2016, 09:34:34 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 09:32:45 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on December 30, 2016, 09:29:14 PM
Joka has said he expects Martin to be available to work tomorrow as he is a Fulham player till the end of the season
hmm, is that now in our best interest.
If Derby want him back play hard ball and get our money back, so possibly yes. Also, for me at least, we need to show we are not a club that will roll over and be pushed around
so we all put up with a player on big money who isnt that great when he is happy just to prove a point? not for me, isnt our player and doesnt want to be here. smells like a club who wont release funds to replace a rotten egg to me,
Personally, I think we should take the Fergie route.
If you don't want to play for us, fine, you know where the door is.
Not sure, how the loan fee works. Presumably, they have to pay it back.
Martin is a Fulham player for the rest of the season. I would make him train with the kids & not select him for the 1st team as he has no desire to play for us due to the scumbag McClaren tapping him up.
The loan fee is a small price to pay to deny Derby of his services for the rest of the season.
We can now use the £6 mil to buy a striker that really wants to play for us.
Quote from: mkras99 on December 30, 2016, 09:37:36 PM
BBC London Sport @BBCLondonSport 2m2 minutes ago
JOKANOVIC ON MARTIN: "I had information from medical staff that he was unable to play...he decided to take one day off" #FulhamFC #FFC
he decided to take one day off did he. lol
So Derby see the benefit of a striker who can hit the target. Cherio Mr Martin mow you have been asked back by Mcclaren. If you make it to the playoffs we look forward to playing you and whipping the pants off you.
Hmmm interesting. Too cold for him probably. Well it will all come out in the wash. We will still need another forward at least no matter what. If that's the case, he owes us a Hatrick v Brighton if he plays.
Quote from: grandad on December 30, 2016, 09:40:31 PM
We can now use the £6 mil to buy a striker that really wants to play for us.
A £6m Striker?? Where the hell are they hiding? Be very lucky to get one for single figures nowadays, who is worth having!!
Quote from: Fulham Tup North on December 30, 2016, 09:43:59 PM
Quote from: grandad on December 30, 2016, 09:40:31 PM
We can now use the £6 mil to buy a striker that really wants to play for us.
A £6m Striker?? Where the hell are they hiding? Be very lucky to get one for single figures nowadays, who is worth having!!
absolutely anyone is worth having over someone who goes on strike
Emma Jones @emmajonessport 5m5 minutes ago
Spoke to #fulham #ffc boss for @bbclondonsport Perplexed by the match being abandoned. Says Chris Martin remains Fulham player.
If true, then he's off......player's come & go.... I wouldn't have said he's a core player......finger's crossed we get someone who wants to play for us
I don't get any of this - why isn't the Derby manager reported fot this disgrace?
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 30, 2016, 09:42:57 PM
Hmmm interesting. Too cold for him probably. Well it will all come out in the wash. We will still need another forward at least no matter what. If that's the case, he owes us a Hatrick v Brighton if he plays.
too cold for him? hes from north of the wall. its summer time to them
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 30, 2016, 09:46:02 PM
I don't get any of this - why isn't the Derby manager reported fot this disgrace?
reported for what? hes a derby player on loan to us
Quote from: grandad on December 30, 2016, 09:40:31 PM
Martin is a Fulham player for the rest of the season. I would make him train with the kids & not select him for the 1st team as he has no desire to play for us due to the scumbag McClaren tapping him up.
The loan fee is a small price to pay to deny Derby of his services for the rest of the season.
We can now use the £6 mil to buy a striker that really wants to play for us.
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I really love you and most your post grandad but this doesn't sit right with me at all. Why do that? I don't think what we hear is the truth. Martin REFUSED to play for us? There is no evidence of that us there? I think this could well have been more down to Slav than any slight on Martin. To guess is to be illinformed. I don't think an absolute predictor would be happy with our play. Reluctantly I was proved right. Signing a great goal scorer and using him as a diversion doesn't work. He should still score goals
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 09:46:07 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 30, 2016, 09:42:57 PM
Hmmm interesting. Too cold for him probably. Well it will all come out in the wash. We will still need another forward at least no matter what. If that's the case, he owes us a Hatrick v Brighton if he plays.
too cold for him? hes from north of the wall. its summer time to them
He's only been there to play for Scotland,born up the road from me in Beccles Suffolk..lol
Love this from Slavisa:
BBC London Sport @BBCLondonSport 5m5 minutes ago
JOKANOVIC ON MARTIN: "We're not a train station...you can't come in and out when you want" - very strong from the #FulhamFC boss #DCFC
BBC London Sport @BBCLondonSport 6m6 minutes ago
JOKANOVIC ON MARTIN: "I'm not going to send him back to #DCFC - he's going to stay with us and respect the contract" #FulhamFC #FFC #COYW
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 09:47:11 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 30, 2016, 09:46:02 PM
I don't get any of this - why isn't the Derby manager reported fot this disgrace?
reported for what? hes a derby player on loan to us
Derby let him come on loan for THE season for a blooming large sum!
old red face returns and starts moaning, hinting, trouble making effectively - a bit like tapping up players no?
So you think he should be allowed to return to a team that loaned out a player and be allowed to attempt to change that agreement via the press?
I see no difference at all from tapping a player that is admired!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 30, 2016, 09:52:49 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 09:47:11 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 30, 2016, 09:46:02 PM
I don't get any of this - why isn't the Derby manager reported fot this disgrace?
reported for what? hes a derby player on loan to us
Derby let him come on loan for THE season for a blooming large sum!
old red face returns and starts moaning, hinting, trouble making effectively - a bit like tapping up players no?
So you think he should be allowed to return to a team that loaned out a player and be allowed to attempt to change that agreement via the press?
I see no difference at all from tapping a player that is admired!
via the press? as ive said many times, the club have known for weeks, and not to mention, it was MARTIN who went on strike. i see no fault in derby wanting their player back. hes their player.
When Saha acted the b........ it cheesed me off, but at least he wanted his move to Utd and we got 12 million, whilst we were in the prem. But Martin, and going back to Derby?! 064.gif 064.gif 064.gif
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/december/30/head-coach-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/december/30/head-coach-reaction)
A talking point prior to kick-off was the absence of Chris Martin in the matchday squad, and our Head Coach gave the following statement with regards to the Derby County loanee: "He made himself unavailable for today's game.
"He stopped in training, but I have information from medical staff that he is available to play. He decided to take a day off.
"We need to check this situation but I don't have any intention of making our rivals any stronger. I am not going to send him back to Derby, he is going to stay with us, and he is going to respect the contract.
"We are not a train station, you can't come in and out when you want. We need to respect ourselves, and I don't know if he's going to play for Fulham, but he's not going to play for Derby."
Quote from: mkras99 on December 30, 2016, 09:55:36 PM
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/december/30/head-coach-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/december/30/head-coach-reaction)
A talking point prior to kick-off was the absence of Chris Martin in the matchday squad, and our Head Coach gave the following statement with regards to the Derby County loanee: "He made himself unavailable for today's game.
"He stopped in training, but I have information from medical staff that he is available to play. He decided to take a day off.
"We need to check this situation but I don't have any intention of making our rivals any stronger. I am not going to send him back to Derby, he is going to stay with us, and he is going to respect the contract.
"We are not a train station, you can't come in and out when you want. We need to respect ourselves, and I don't know if he's going to play for Fulham, but he's not going to play for Derby."
at least slavisa has some balls. big ones. just need shad to match them
"We are not a train station".
Love it !
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 09:54:19 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 30, 2016, 09:52:49 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 09:47:11 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 30, 2016, 09:46:02 PM
I don't get any of this - why isn't the Derby manager reported fot this disgrace?
reported for what? hes a derby player on loan to us
Derby let him come on loan for THE season for a blooming large sum!
old red face returns and starts moaning, hinting, trouble making effectively - a bit like tapping up players no?
So you think he should be allowed to return to a team that loaned out a player and be allowed to attempt to change that agreement via the press?
I see no difference at all from tapping a player that is admired!
via the press? as ive said many times, the club have known for weeks
Who cares how/where/when? I'm still saying that it shouldn't be allowed no matter whom!
It's this type of crap that makes modern football a mockery and easily controlled by the few!
Derby did us up good and proper in the 80s - please not let them do it again!
(And I'm not even that bothered about Martin, it's principle!)
Quote from: ToodlesMcToot on December 30, 2016, 09:52:19 PM
Love this from Slavisa:
BBC London Sport @BBCLondonSport 5m5 minutes ago
JOKANOVIC ON MARTIN: "We're not a train station...you can't come in and out when you want" - very strong from the #FulhamFC boss #DCFC
BBC London Sport @BBCLondonSport 6m6 minutes ago
JOKANOVIC ON MARTIN: "I'm not going to send him back to #DCFC - he's going to stay with us and respect the contract" #FulhamFC #FFC #COYW
Good stuff.
It's fine for Derby to ask whether we can agree a new contract. It's not fine for an existing contract to be breached. When we recall players from loan, it's because the contract permits it. The contract here obviously doesn't -if it did Derby would simply trigger it in a couple of days.
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 09:47:11 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 30, 2016, 09:46:02 PM
I don't get any of this - why isn't the Derby manager reported fot this disgrace?
reported for what? hes a derby player on loan to us
Wrong. He is our player until 31.05.2017.
Quote from: mkras99 on December 30, 2016, 09:55:36 PM
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/december/30/head-coach-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/december/30/head-coach-reaction)
A talking point prior to kick-off was the absence of Chris Martin in the matchday squad, and our Head Coach gave the following statement with regards to the Derby County loanee: "He made himself unavailable for today's game.
"He stopped in training, but I have information from medical staff that he is available to play. He decided to take a day off.
"We need to check this situation but I don't have any intention of making our rivals any stronger. I am not going to send him back to Derby, he is going to stay with us, and he is going to respect the contract.
"We are not a train station, you can't come in and out when you want. We need to respect ourselves, and I don't know if he's going to play for Fulham, but he's not going to play for Derby."
Khan, get that extension done for Slavisa!!!!! Love this reaction to Martin's want away B.S.
Know that it makes it difficult to work out other transfers and to smooth out player and supporter reactions to it but, he's absolutely right to do this. If he doesn't see fit to give his all for the club, then he's not going to give anything for anyone else this season. Would love to see Khan come out and back Slavisa's comments, a la MAF. Think it would do wonders for his relationship with supporters in general.
Quote from: Fulham1959 on December 30, 2016, 09:57:56 PM
"We are not a train station".
Love it !
We're not Real Madrid, we're not Kings X St Pancras
It was funnier in my head
If this all falls into place and SJ is indeed standing firm and let's Martin know who makes the decisions he automatically goes to a seven from six in my mid term score from the other day. The problem he will have though is an alternative option or rethinking a pattern of play, the latter being one of my key concerns.
Quote from: BedsFFC on December 30, 2016, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: Fulham1959 on December 30, 2016, 09:57:56 PM
"We are not a train station".
Love it !
We're not Real Madrid, we're not Kings X St Pancras
It was funnier in my head
Can't believe the Fulham podcast just nicked my joke
Khan backed Slav over Dembele supposedly going to Tottenham, nice to see a manager and chairman with guts.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on December 30, 2016, 10:05:42 PM
If this all falls into place and SJ is indeed standing firm and let's Martin know who makes the decisions he automatically goes to a seven from six in my mid term score from the other day. The problem he will have though is an alternative option or rethinking a pattern of play, the latter being one of my key concerns.
Seems confident in his abilities to absorb Martin's pity party for as long as it lasts and continue on. Very nice to see us stand up and not be run over again.
Quote from: BedsFFC on December 30, 2016, 10:01:17 PM
Quote from: Fulham1959 on December 30, 2016, 09:57:56 PM
"We are not a train station".
Love it !
We're not Real Madrid, we're not Kings X St Pancras
It was funnier in my head
We're not Real Madrid, we're not Kings X station,
We are Super Fulham FC
Chris Martin is a "£@?'~€#"
Best of Brede, funny you mention that Derby nightmare. After hearing these rumors today on martin, and also Malaga one coming in for Slav it reminded me of that era and Clay doing his best not to help us get promotion that year, ( the signing of another striker didn't happen when we desperately needed the support, Thomas was it?)
I just hope history don't repeat itself. So Mr Khan its over to you. Well done Slav for leading that way. 065.gif
I do hope the Club back Slavisa on this. Whether it proves to be in our best interests, time will tell. Actually, I don't care; I support our manager for the standing up for the Club and not letting Martin treat us with contempt.
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 09:57:03 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on December 30, 2016, 09:55:36 PM
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/december/30/head-coach-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/december/30/head-coach-reaction)
A talking point prior to kick-off was the absence of Chris Martin in the matchday squad, and our Head Coach gave the following statement with regards to the Derby County loanee: "He made himself unavailable for today's game.
"He stopped in training, but I have information from medical staff that he is available to play. He decided to take a day off.
"We need to check this situation but I don't have any intention of making our rivals any stronger. I am not going to send him back to Derby, he is going to stay with us, and he is going to respect the contract.
"We are not a train station, you can't come in and out when you want. We need to respect ourselves, and I don't know if he's going to play for Fulham, but he's not going to play for Derby."
at least slavisa has some balls. big ones. just need shad to match them
Sounds good but if that is Jocanovic's position and he sticks to it then we will pay Martin's wages until the end of the season without getting any Championship play from him.
Do we really want a player hanging around the training ground who doesn't want to play for us.
Surely it is best if we see the back of the man as soon as possible.
Quote from: chiefo on December 30, 2016, 10:12:22 PM
Best of Brede, funny you mention that Derby nightmare. After hearing these rumors today on martin, and also Malaga one coming in for Slav it reminded me of that era and Clay doing his best not to help us get promotion that year, ( the signing of another striker didn't happen when we desperately needed the support, Thomas was it?)
I just hope history don't repeat itself. So Mr Khan its over to you. Well done Slav for leading that way. 065.gif
Yes I will never forget that away game at Derby and would hate to see them attempt another go at derailing us!
Well done Slavisa and please, please Mr Khan back him all the way!
Cheats never prosper!
Surely in his frame of mind he want play against Brighton.
Quote from: filham on December 30, 2016, 10:13:50 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 09:57:03 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on December 30, 2016, 09:55:36 PM
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/december/30/head-coach-reaction (http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2016/december/30/head-coach-reaction)
A talking point prior to kick-off was the absence of Chris Martin in the matchday squad, and our Head Coach gave the following statement with regards to the Derby County loanee: "He made himself unavailable for today's game.
"He stopped in training, but I have information from medical staff that he is available to play. He decided to take a day off.
"We need to check this situation but I don't have any intention of making our rivals any stronger. I am not going to send him back to Derby, he is going to stay with us, and he is going to respect the contract.
"We are not a train station, you can't come in and out when you want. We need to respect ourselves, and I don't know if he's going to play for Fulham, but he's not going to play for Derby."
at least slavisa has some balls. big ones. just need shad to match them
Sounds good but if that is Jocanovic's position and he sticks to it then we will pay Martin's wages until the end of the season without getting any Championship play from him.
Do we really want a player hanging around the training ground who doesn't want to play for us.
Surely it is best if we see the back of the man as soon as possible.
He could tell him to stay away, or train alone.
Quote from: chiefo on December 30, 2016, 10:12:22 PM
Best of Brede, funny you mention that Derby nightmare. After hearing these rumors today on martin, and also Malaga one coming in for Slav it reminded me of that era and Clay doing his best not to help us get promotion that year, ( the signing of another striker didn't happen when we desperately needed the support, Thomas was it?)
I just hope history don't repeat itself. So Mr Khan its over to you. Well done Slav for leading that way. 065.gif
Seriously hope that Slavisa isn't going so public with that bit without Khan's backing. Would make January far more tricky if Khan wasn't on board with making Martin and Derby honor their part in the contract.
That said, it would go a long way for the club if Khan publicly backed Slavisa on this.
I agree filam that Martin should be sent packing ( with a right ol kick up the arse), but I think we should make it clear that the agreement will only be broken and he can return, if they agree he cannot play against us this season! We should not be dictated to by anyone especially a lesser team and manager!
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 30, 2016, 10:20:44 PM
I agree filam that Martin should be sent packing ( with a right ol kick up the arse), but I think we should make it clear that the agreement will only be broken and he can return, if they agree he cannot play against us this season! We should not be dictated to by anyone especially a lesser team and manager!
We can't include stipulations that the League's rules don't allow - and, as far as I'm aware, they don't allow clubs to transfer a player with a proviso that he can't play against his previous Club (which, in effect, is what you're advocating).
I'm not really certain what I'm advocating (isn't that a egg drink?) but will say I'm sick to death of corruption in football and Derby are certainly at it again! But I do get what you are saying Arthur.
Lyall Thomas @SkySportsLyall 18m18 minutes ago
Serious quotes coming from Slavisa Jokanovic on Chris Martin. "This is not a primary school or a train station or a democratic state." #FFC
Quote from: Statto on December 30, 2016, 10:33:52 PM
we should agree to exercise the option to buy for £6m and simultaneously sell him back to them for £10m. deal to be completed in july. until then he's loaned back to them on the condition he can't play against us. i'm not joking, i think that commercially attractive to both clubs and do-able from a legal perspective as well
Great thinking - that's sort of what I was trying to say earlier but in a bad tempered way !
I think red mist got in the way!
stick him in the u23s he soon want to be playing first team football again we saving on Riggs wages now so wont be losing to much i hope
Perhaps Martin has heard that we are bringing a first choice striker in. Have no knowledge in this but often there are things going on which we know nothing about. Not saying that would excuse his behaviour but might explain it.
Quote from: Beamer on December 30, 2016, 10:41:59 PM
Perhaps Martin has heard that we are bringing a first choice striker in. Have no knowledge in this but often there are things going on which we know nothing about. Not saying that would excuse his behaviour but might explain it.
Good thinking, but very doubtful that is the reason behind today's charade!
Link to Slavisa interview - https://audioboom.com/posts/5446895-listen-again-fulhamfc-jokanovic-on-chris-martin
Wonder if its a family thing, is he married? Wanting to move back to Midlands.
Eddie Howe's a brilliant manager fell to pieces at Burnley having to commute from South Coast..
Some players can't hack it.
If this is the true situation with Martin them I'm sure that, for all the fact that he would be totally in the wrong given those circumstances, surely we cannot afford to pay him without him playing, particularly as it would mean bringing in a replacement. If there is even a germ of truth however, then the League should look very carefully into McLaren, Derby County and their place in this ridiculous situation. I am afraid I have very little time time for footballers and the way they carry on and this affair is doing nothing to persuade me I am wrong.
I want Slavisa & Mr Khan to form a united front on this disgraceful behavior from Martin & Derby. Martin´s loan fee & wages are a small price to pay for our clubs pride.
I would make Martin train alone & would not disgrace our shirt by allowing him to ever wear one again in any of our teams.
Quote from: mkras99 on December 30, 2016, 10:46:55 PM
Link to Slavisa interview - https://audioboom.com/posts/5446895-listen-again-fulhamfc-jokanovic-on-chris-martin
Love it, player power, professional footballers are a law until themselves, after hearing the short comment by Joka, well better I do not post what I think about CM, but begins with f and ends with f!!! Sorry!!! A really promising season for us is starting to dismantle!
Quote from: davew on December 30, 2016, 10:51:40 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on December 30, 2016, 10:46:55 PM
Link to Slavisa interview - https://audioboom.com/posts/5446895-listen-again-fulhamfc-jokanovic-on-chris-martin
Love it, player power, professional footballers are a law until themselves, after hearing the short comment by Joka, well better I do not post what I think about CM, but begins with f and ends with f!!! Sorry!!!
Agreed Dave but my version begins W and ends R!
"We are London's oldest Club. We need to be treated with respect"
Great to here that from a manager negotiating a new contract. Clearly has some affection for the club.
Quote from: grandad on December 30, 2016, 10:50:54 PM
I want Slavisa & Mr Khan to form a united front on this disgraceful behavior from Martin & Derby. Martin´s loan fee & wages are a small price to pay for our clubs pride.
I would make Martin train alone & would not disgrace our shirt by allowing him to ever wear one again in any of our teams.
Quote from: davew on December 30, 2016, 10:51:40 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on December 30, 2016, 10:46:55 PM
Link to Slavisa interview - https://audioboom.com/posts/5446895-listen-again-fulhamfc-jokanovic-on-chris-martin
Love it, player power, professional footballers are a law until themselves, after hearing the short comment by Joka, well better I do not post what I think about CM, but begins with f and ends with f!!! Sorry!!! A really promising season for us is starting to dismantle!
Steady,starting to dismantle?
We aren't any worse off than we were this morning..
Let him rot in a corner of MP for five months.
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/10712555/slavisa-jokanovic-challenges-fulham-to-back-him-after-derby-loanee-chris-martin-refuses-to-play (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/10712555/slavisa-jokanovic-challenges-fulham-to-back-him-after-derby-loanee-chris-martin-refuses-to-play)
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 30, 2016, 10:56:12 PM
Quote from: grandad on December 30, 2016, 10:50:54 PM
I want Slavisa & Mr Khan to form a united front on this disgraceful behavior from Martin & Derby. Martin´s loan fee & wages are a small price to pay for our clubs pride.
I would make Martin train alone & would not disgrace our shirt by allowing him to ever wear one again in any of our teams.
Quote from: davew on December 30, 2016, 10:51:40 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on December 30, 2016, 10:46:55 PM
Link to Slavisa interview - https://audioboom.com/posts/5446895-listen-again-fulhamfc-jokanovic-on-chris-martin
Love it, player power, professional footballers are a law until themselves, after hearing the short comment by Joka, well better I do not post what I think about CM, but begins with f and ends with f!!! Sorry!!! A really promising season for us is starting to dismantle!
Steady,starting to dismantle?
We aren't any worse off than we were this morning..
Maybe but we have 1 less striker available and why was Humphreys not on the bench, we haven't loaned him to Derby??
Quote from: davew on December 30, 2016, 10:59:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 30, 2016, 10:56:12 PM
Quote from: grandad on December 30, 2016, 10:50:54 PM
I want Slavisa & Mr Khan to form a united front on this disgraceful behavior from Martin & Derby. Martin´s loan fee & wages are a small price to pay for our clubs pride.
I would make Martin train alone & would not disgrace our shirt by allowing him to ever wear one again in any of our teams.
Quote from: davew on December 30, 2016, 10:51:40 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on December 30, 2016, 10:46:55 PM
Link to Slavisa interview - https://audioboom.com/posts/5446895-listen-again-fulhamfc-jokanovic-on-chris-martin
Love it, player power, professional footballers are a law until themselves, after hearing the short comment by Joka, well better I do not post what I think about CM, but begins with f and ends with f!!! Sorry!!! A really promising season for us is starting to dismantle!
Steady,starting to dismantle?
We aren't any worse off than we were this morning..
Maybe but we have 1 less striker available and why was Humphreys not on the bench, we haven't loaned him to Derby??
Easy fellas, we got a transfer window on the horizon !!
Quote from: mkras99 on December 30, 2016, 10:57:43 PM
http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/10712555/slavisa-jokanovic-challenges-fulham-to-back-him-after-derby-loanee-chris-martin-refuses-to-play (http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11681/10712555/slavisa-jokanovic-challenges-fulham-to-back-him-after-derby-loanee-chris-martin-refuses-to-play)
well if they dont back him, Rowetts available
Quote from: davew on December 30, 2016, 10:59:32 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 30, 2016, 10:56:12 PM
Quote from: grandad on December 30, 2016, 10:50:54 PM
I want Slavisa & Mr Khan to form a united front on this disgraceful behavior from Martin & Derby. Martin´s loan fee & wages are a small price to pay for our clubs pride.
I would make Martin train alone & would not disgrace our shirt by allowing him to ever wear one again in any of our teams.
Quote from: davew on December 30, 2016, 10:51:40 PM
Quote from: mkras99 on December 30, 2016, 10:46:55 PM
Link to Slavisa interview - https://audioboom.com/posts/5446895-listen-again-fulhamfc-jokanovic-on-chris-martin
Love it, player power, professional footballers are a law until themselves, after hearing the short comment by Joka, well better I do not post what I think about CM, but begins with f and ends with f!!! Sorry!!! A really promising season for us is starting to dismantle!
Steady,starting to dismantle?
We aren't any worse off than we were this morning..
Maybe but we have 1 less striker available and why was Humphreys not on the bench, we haven't loaned him to Derby??
thought this myself, but if martin only went on strike today, maybe not enough time to get humprys where he is needed.
Ben irrespective of Martin's attitude, Humphrey's is/was our only option as a back up striker, Smith (who I know you are not keen on) has hardly played any football this season, let alone any good football whereas Humphreys has been scoring goals for fun! Cauley rightly has been told he is not quite up for it, no other options available as far I can see?
Quote from: davew on December 30, 2016, 11:10:01 PM
Ben irrespective of Martin's attitude, Humphrey's is/was our only option as a back up striker, Smith (who I know you are not keen on) has hardly played any football this season, let alone any good football whereas Humphreys has been scoring goals for fun! Cauley rightly has been told he is not quite up for it, no other options available as far I can see?
yes, but that doesnt mean he was available to get to the madjeski in time from the moment we learned martin was a no show. did they stay over night or meet up late in the afternoon or something like that. where are the 23s at the moment? might be away with them. im just saying there might not of been time to get humphrys there
Martin needs seriously to be hung out to dry if this is only half true....tell you what guys, this is a very Lucy escape. Way better to find out he is a tosser now than before we spend £9 millions on the winker.
The under 23's don't have a match until 7 January, so I don't know where they might be? Martin's decision was not a last minute thing so there was plenty of time to address the situation, anyway we didn't lose tonight which I do think was a bonus, our loyal players must wonder what the hell is going on, just like us supporters!!!!
Quote from: FulhamStu on December 30, 2016, 11:21:36 PM
Martin needs seriously to be hung out to dry if this is only half true....tell you what guys, this is a very Lucy escape. Way better to find out he is a tosser now than before we spend £9 millions on the winker.
You need to check your spelling, apart from that I agree with you 100% (lol)!
Quote from: davew on December 30, 2016, 11:25:26 PM
The under 23's don't have a match until 7 January, so I don't know where they might be? Martin's decision was not a last minute thing so there was plenty of time to address the situation, anyway we didn't lose tonight which I do think was a bonus, our loyal players must wonder what the hell is going on, just like us supporters!!!!
then yes its strange if thats the case.
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 11:27:08 PM
Quote from: davew on December 30, 2016, 11:25:26 PM
The under 23's don't have a match until 7 January, so I don't know where they might be? Martin's decision was not a last minute thing so there was plenty of time to address the situation, anyway we didn't lose tonight which I do think was a bonus, our loyal players must wonder what the hell is going on, just like us supporters!!!!
then yes its strange if thats the case.
Probably training with the Derby under 23's!!! McClaren works in mysterious ways!
So exercise the buy clause and loan him back to them for the same amount with an option to buy at the end of the season at the price we were paying plus the amount we have spent on his wages to date. Then he can't play against us this year and goals he scores from then on will help us as much as them. Plus we never have to see him again. I thought McCormack was a mercenary but this guy is something else. That is if we have the full story.
Quote from: Beamer on December 30, 2016, 11:31:19 PM
So exercise the buy clause and loan him back to them for the same amount with an option to buy at the end of the season at the price we were paying plus the amount we have spent on his wages to date. Then he can't play against us this year and goals he scores from then on will help us much as them. Plus we never have to see him again. I thought McCormack was a mercenary but this guy is something else. That is if we have the full story.
lets not pretend ross wasnt just as bad. who recalls him declaring himself unfit for a few games and then miraculously returning the next day after signing a new contract
Can a team be done fo tapping up a player they have loaned out to come back. This must be a first.
Never been a Fulham player, only a loan... dodged a bullet by not signing the winker.
The club are 100% behind Slav or it would not be on the official website. Read his comments.
They say that a week is a long time in politics , well it's an even longer time in football going by some of the replies on here,
There was a clamour on here just a few days ago for us to sign Martin for £9 million now I see that some of those very same posters have now got a different view !
Very strange.
We've dodged a bullett here, Martin was never worth that amount of money and I have every confidence that come the end of January Fulham Football Club will be a much stronger side than it is today.
In Slavisa we trust.
Quote from: Riversider on December 30, 2016, 11:47:46 PM
They say that a week is a long time in politics , well it's an even longer time in football going by some of the replies on here,
There was a clamour on here just a few days ago for us to sign Martin for £9 million now I see that some of those very same posters have now got a different view !
Very strange.
We've dodged a bullett here, Martin was never worth that amount of money and I have every confidence that come the end of January Fulham Football Club will be a much stronger side than it is today.
In Slavisa we trust.
its hardly strange to turn on a player who has just refused to play for the club you love.
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 11:50:23 PM
Quote from: Riversider on December 30, 2016, 11:47:46 PM
They say that a week is a long time in politics , well it's an even longer time in football going by some of the replies on here,
There was a clamour on here just a few days ago for us to sign Martin for £9 million now I see that some of those very same posters have now got a different view !
Very strange.
We've dodged a bullett here, Martin was never worth that amount of money and I have every confidence that come the end of January Fulham Football Club will be a much stronger side than it is today.
In Slavisa we trust.
its hardly strange to turn on a player who has just refused to play for the club you love.
:plus one:
Very disappointing. The next couple do days will be interesting. I like Slavisa's comments. The big question is if it's true do we let him rot the rest of the season or send him to the nearest train station, so to speak, back to Derby. My gut feeling is that rotten apples need to be cleared out and we buy a better and committed striker in January. Martin will then just be a distant memory
I'd like to see a poacher of a goal scorer. Someone who jumps when they head the ball, is in the box waiting for the tap ins. Has pace like the rest of the team. Maybe out of our price range.
I hope Martin doesn't play for us again. IF He did decide not to play. I would not send him back to Derby. I'd just fine him his wages and send him to the reserves. If he refuses to play there, I'd fine him again.
January is going to be an interesting month and I hope Jok is so fired up he will ensure that he will do his best to replace Martin with a decent striker and a quality centre back, availability permitting. ⚽️
Martin can rot for the rest of the season, he should never be given the honour of putting a fulham shirt on again. Jovanovic on the other hand, bravo for those post game comments, they were beautiful!
Newsnow at 11_28 saying Derby close
to signing Rhodes and Landsbury.
So would they want Martin back?
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 31, 2016, 01:05:32 AM
Newsnow at 11_28 saying Derby close
to signing Rhodes and Landsbury.
So would they want Martin back?
Doesn't matter, they will have to take him back in may. Until then he can rot half a season away.
Quote from: St Eve on December 31, 2016, 12:12:24 AM
Very disappointing. The next couple do days will be interesting. I like Slavisa's comments. The big question is if it's true do we let him rot the rest of the season or send him to the nearest train station, so to speak, back to Derby. My gut feeling is that rotten apples need to be cleared out and we buy a better and committed striker in January. Martin will then just be a distant memory
Indeed.
I really hope this gets sorted out sooner rather than later, it all seems a bit strange considering Martin's success at Fulham.
The contract situation is strange too as normally clubs offer a player new deal before a transfer to increase value, but all future fees were agreed in the loan agreement, so it's all a bit bizarre!
Anyway, I've discussed this in a bit more depth on my blog; The Craven Corner.
Please see below:
The latest Craven Corner article discusses the situation with Chris Martin, Slavisa Jokanovic and looks ahead to what could happen in January with Fulham in the transfer window.
Thank you for all your ongoing support of the blog this year.
I'd like to wish you all a Happy New Year and let's hope it's successful for Fulham too.
You can read the article here: thecravencorner.wordpress.com (http://thecravencorner.wordpress.com)
Looking at his 'body language' in the last 2/3 games he seemed to be getting "p***ed of" at the amount
of times he was 'ignored" in the attacks.
Sort of: "Why didn't you pass to me, I was in the ideal scoring position, that's what I do"
A STARVED STRIKER IS AN UNHAPPY STRIKER
I have no idea if this is relevant to the current situation, just my observation.
A big question is that we are scoring goals from loads of different players and do we actually need a
target man ?
Or maybe he showed that frustration because he was already peed off with Fulham, or was looking for an excuse to leave after overtures from Derby.
He was first choice striker and has scored a few in a free scoring- though chance missing, in form, side, after an initial drought, so hard to see what problem he might have on the playing side, anyway.
Quote from: rogerpinvirginia on December 31, 2016, 03:45:45 AM
A big question is that we are scoring goals from loads of different players and do we actually need a
target man ?
I'd argue yes - having a striker who can hold the ball up and create for others is huge for our system. Even though Martin hasn't been prolific for us, he has been very important to the team's scoring success. With Rigg out of the way, hopefully Slavisa has the freedom to choose a new target man if needed or, at least, a second option who is superior to Smith, Woodrow etc.
Quote from: river phoenix on December 30, 2016, 10:00:17 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on December 30, 2016, 09:47:11 PM
Quote from: BestOfBrede on December 30, 2016, 09:46:02 PM
I don't get any of this - why isn't the Derby manager reported fot this disgrace?
reported for what? hes a derby player on loan to us
Wrong. He is our player until 31.05.2017.
Well, it's been less than 12 hours since all this came up; I'm guessing that's the reason why McLaren isn't in jail already.
Quote from: St Eve on December 31, 2016, 12:12:24 AM
Very disappointing. The next couple do days will be interesting. I like Slavisa's comments. The big question is if it's true do we let him rot the rest of the season or send him to the nearest train station, so to speak, back to Derby. My gut feeling is that rotten apples need to be cleared out and we buy a better and committed striker in January. Martin will then just be a distant memory
It certainly hit a nerve with Jok, he was not kidding when he said words to the effect that Martin will not play for Derby this season.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 31, 2016, 01:05:32 AM
Newsnow at 11_28 saying Derby close
to signing Rhodes and Landsbury.
So would they want Martin back?
What are you going to do with your Chris Martin Shirt ?
Quote from: Carborundum on December 30, 2016, 08:54:59 PM
Chris Martin is a good striker, but he's no messiah.
No,he's not. But he is a naughty boy...
Quote from: Neil D on December 31, 2016, 07:42:38 AM
Quote from: Carborundum on December 30, 2016, 08:54:59 PM
Chris Martin is a good striker, but he's no messiah.
No,he's not. But he is a naughty boy...
And he isn't coming out to play.
Not terribly upset that we are set to lose Martin's services, he was OK but not worth the loan fee plus the purchase fee.
SJ has come out of this brilliantly and gone up even further in my estimation.
If Khan now backs SJ in deeds as well as words I will even get off the fence and start to acknowledge him as a good thing for FFC.
As to CM, he should F... off back to Derby as soon as possible, we don't need thoroughly rotten apples and we could put the cash to far better use.
Overall I think this could be a positive as it has the potential to bring everyone closer together, harmony in adversity and all that.
Well said SJ.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 31, 2016, 05:34:12 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 31, 2016, 01:05:32 AM
Newsnow at 11_28 saying Derby close
to signing Rhodes and Landsbury.
So would they want Martin back?
What are you going to do with your Chris Martin Shirt ?
I will keep it,and when we sign
Sirchar Mint from an East European team I will just rearrange the letters.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 31, 2016, 08:52:13 AM
I will keep it,and when we sign
Sirchar Mint from an East European team I will just rearrange the letters.
What are you going to do if he just wants to be called 'Minted'?
Is this the twist in the tale?
Talksport saying Norwich want their former striker Chris Martin back.
Have looked on a couple of their forums
but seen nowt about it.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 31, 2016, 01:55:52 PM
Is this the twist in the tale?
Talksport saying Norwich want their former striker Chris Martin back.
Have looked on a couple of their forums
but seen nowt about it.
Dreamland: Jan 1 - exercise option for perm deal @ £9m
Jan 2 - flog to Norwich for £12m
wish Derby a Happy New Year
Quote from: cmg on December 31, 2016, 02:16:11 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 31, 2016, 01:55:52 PM
Is this the twist in the tale?
Talksport saying Norwich want their former striker Chris Martin back.
Have looked on a couple of their forums
but seen nowt about it.
Dreamland: Jan 1 - exercise option for perm deal @ £9m
Jan 2 - flog to Norwich for £12m
wish Derby a Happy New Year
Yes that's perfect.
Newsnow 18-02 Derby Telegraph.
Mclaren wants Martin back.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 31, 2016, 01:55:52 PM
Is this the twist in the tale?
Talksport saying Norwich want their former striker Chris Martin back.
Have looked on a couple of their forums
but seen nowt about it.
I don't believe anyone will want Chris Martin after what he has done to us. There is always the risk he may do something similar again and his football isn't good enough to warrant the risk.
Quote from: filham on December 31, 2016, 06:38:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 31, 2016, 01:55:52 PM
Is this the twist in the tale?
Talksport saying Norwich want their former striker Chris Martin back.
Have looked on a couple of their forums
but seen nowt about it.
I don't believe anyone will want Chris Martin after what he has done to us. There is always the risk he may do something similar again and his football isn't good enough to warrant the risk.
Alex Neil needs someone to score for him.
Quote from: Statto on December 31, 2016, 06:36:59 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 31, 2016, 06:29:02 PM
Newsnow 18-02 Derby Telegraph.
Mclaren wants Martin back.
This guy is something else. How was he ever England manager? Can you imagine someone like Roy Hodgson pulling something like this? Surely even his own fans must be embarrassed by this.
He told BBC Radio Derby: "I've made it clear that I like Chris Martin and if there's any possibility that we can get him back, then that's great. We just have to wait and see.
"From day one I've made my feelings on Chrissy clear. It's now up to the two clubs to sort that one out and for us managers to stay out of.
"The (transfer) window isn't open yet. There is a lot of speculation and people don't know the full extent of what is about to happen."
Read more at http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/steve-mcclaren-would-like-to-see-chris-martin-back-at-derby-county/story-30022125-detail/story.html#bW5bpHE4yy5mHZYY.99 (http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/steve-mcclaren-would-like-to-see-chris-martin-back-at-derby-county/story-30022125-detail/story.html#bW5bpHE4yy5mHZYY.99)
Yes cheers that's the article,one reader has replied, Great the return of the troublemaker, why doesn't Mclaren move on from him,Martin was at Pride Park yesterday engineering the move.
"It's now up to the two clubs to sort that one out and for us managers to stay out of".
Say's McLaren who's instigated it in the first place
Smug W@anker !
Man, what a poetic justice would be if our new striker (whoever that be) scores stoppage time winner in playoff finals against that w@nker.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on December 31, 2016, 07:09:37 PM
"It's now up to the two clubs to sort that one out and for us managers to stay out of".
Say's McLaren who's instigated it in the first place
Smug W@anker !
Correct.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on December 31, 2016, 05:34:12 AM
What are you going to do with your Chris Martin Shirt ?
I will put mine alongside my 'Mitroglou' one :(
I am starting quite a collection of 'unwanted' shirts now!
Quote from: Statto on December 31, 2016, 06:36:59 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on December 31, 2016, 06:29:02 PM
Newsnow 18-02 Derby Telegraph.
Mclaren wants Martin back.
This guy is something else. How was he ever England manager? Can you imagine someone like Roy Hodgson pulling something like this? Surely even his own fans must be embarrassed by this.
He told BBC Radio Derby: "I've made it clear that I like Chris Martin and if there's any possibility that we can get him back, then that's great. We just have to wait and see.
"From day one I've made my feelings on Chrissy clear. It's now up to the two clubs to sort that one out and for us managers to stay out of.
"The (transfer) window isn't open yet. There is a lot of speculation and people don't know the full extent of what is about to happen."
Read more at http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/steve-mcclaren-would-like-to-see-chris-martin-back-at-derby-county/story-30022125-detail/story.html#bW5bpHE4yy5mHZYY.99 (http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/steve-mcclaren-would-like-to-see-chris-martin-back-at-derby-county/story-30022125-detail/story.html#bW5bpHE4yy5mHZYY.99)
Tantamount to a tap up. Really bad form from Mclaren.
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Newsnow 18-02 Derby Telegraph.
Mclaren wants Martin back.
This guy is something else. How was he ever England manager? Can you imagine someone like Roy Hodgson pulling something like this? Surely even his own fans must be embarrassed by this.
He told BBC Radio Derby: "I've made it clear that I like Chris Martin and if there's any possibility that we can get him back, then that's great. We just have to wait and see.
"From day one I've made my feelings on Chrissy clear. It's now up to the two clubs to sort that one out and for us managers to stay out of.
"The (transfer) window isn't open yet. There is a lot of speculation and people don't know the full extent of what is about to happen."
Read more at http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/steve-mcclaren-would-like-to-see-chris-martin-back-at-derby-county/story-30022125-detail/story.html#bW5bpHE4yy5mHZYY.99 (http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/steve-mcclaren-would-like-to-see-chris-martin-back-at-derby-county/story-30022125-detail/story.html#bW5bpHE4yy5mHZYY.99)
Tantamount to a tap up. Really bad form from Mclaren.
As manager of the parent club he has a right to stay in contact, he hasn't done anything wrong per say, but I would say it isn't within the spirit of what was agreed. C'est la vie
