Butts
Fred Kalas Ream Odoi
Kmac
Johansen Norwood
Ojo Kebano
AK47
Bench: Betts, Sess R, Madl, Edun, Cisse, Mollo, Fonte
I saw Fonte was holding his groin so I would bench him if there's any doubt with a view to him starting vs QPR (If not then play Johansen and Kmac together and Fonte number 10 in place of Norwood who nudges Edun off the bench) - I would also look to take Kmac off around the hour mark if we are winning well to get Cisse in and then start Cisse vs QPR in place of Norwood. 2 games in 4 days or whatever is a nightmare.
Why would you drop Sess for Odoi, I thought he was our best player on Saturday. I think both Odois defensive strengths and Sess defensive weaknesses are much overstated and Odoi offers very little offensive threat, particularly at LB
Quote from: f bloke on September 26, 2017, 10:32:57 AM
Why would you drop Sess for Odoi, I thought he was our best player on Saturday. I think both Odois defensive strengths and Sess defensive weaknesses are much overstated and Odoi offers very little offensive threat, particularly at LB
Because he played 90 minutes on Saturday and we have 3 games in 7 days. So it's a question of general rotation, Sess would be back in on Friday (possibly LW). He is only 17 and will get burnt out if we play him to much.
is Ojo undroppable? If Ayite is injured I'd like to see Sess and Kebano as our wide men, Sess is looks excellent attacking and Kebano is always capable of scoring, Ojo is underwhelming for me.
Quote from: Chutney on September 26, 2017, 11:16:29 AM
is Ojo undroppable? If Ayite is injured I'd like to see Sess and Kebano as our wide men, Sess is looks excellent attacking and Kebano is always capable of scoring, Ojo is underwhelming for me.
Well, in the world where my opinion means anything (it doesn't) I'm dropping the 17 year old to the bench and will start him against QPR at LW. These two games need to be viewed together really as we will probably need to make 5 changes between the two games and I cant play Sess 3 times in a week. It's schedules like this where we really miss Piazon IMO.
I tossed up between Ojo and giving Mollo another run out as I've been impressed by Mollo and perhaps I should have gone down that root. The exciting thing about that front line is that we can mix and match to an extent and we have a new option to play with. But for me, Kebano is the only one who is guaranteed a start.
Would never happen, but:
Button
Odoi, Kalas, Ream
Fredericks, McDonald, Norwood, Sessegnon
Kebano, Fonte, Mollo
Quote from: J.Perkins on September 26, 2017, 11:57:52 AM
Would never happen, but:
Button
Odoi, Kalas, Ream
Fredericks, McDonald, Norwood, Sessegnon
Kebano, Fonte, Mollo
We dont play 3 at the back and it would require alot of training to implement it plus you are either losing the third midfielder (Cairney essentially) or your playing him on the right which doesnt work (refer to: Symons season).
I'd like to see Mollo, AK and Fonte all start and properly attack them from the off.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on September 26, 2017, 12:01:20 PM
Quote from: J.Perkins on September 26, 2017, 11:57:52 AM
Would never happen, but:
Button
Odoi, Kalas, Ream
Fredericks, McDonald, Norwood, Sessegnon
Kebano, Fonte, Mollo
We dont play 3 at the back and it would require alot of training to implement it plus you are either losing the third midfielder (Cairney essentially) or your playing him on the right which doesnt work (refer to: Symons season).
We aren't winning playing 4 at the back. Jokanovic has been known to use the 3 at the back before. This system is because we don't have Cairney, and our biggest problem is only having 1 system.
Rather take a risk than keep on drawing. Can't get much worse.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on September 26, 2017, 12:01:20 PM
Quote from: J.Perkins on September 26, 2017, 11:57:52 AM
Would never happen, but:
Button
Odoi, Kalas, Ream
Fredericks, McDonald, Norwood, Sessegnon
Kebano, Fonte, Mollo
We dont play 3 at the back and it would require alot of training to implement it plus you are either losing the third midfielder (Cairney essentially) or your playing him on the right which doesnt work (refer to: Symons season).
We played 3-5-2 a few times last season. Reading and Cardiff (in the cup) away springs to mind.
However I'd go with:
Button
Fredericks - Kalas - Ream - Odoi
McDonald - Johansen/Norwood
Mollo - Fonte - Kebano
Kamara
Subs: Bettinelli, Djalo/Madl, Sessegnon, Johansen/Norwood, Cisse, Ojo & Graham
As long as Kamara starts. I think he is ideally suited to playing up front on his own - much more so than the rather lightweight (physically, more than anything else) Fonte.
I would go for some squad rotation.
Button
Odoi - Kalas - Ream - sess
McDonald - Johansen - Norwood
Mollo - Fonte - Kebano
Quote from: Neil D on September 26, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
As long as Kamara starts. I think he is ideally suited to playing up front on his own - much more so than the rather lightweight (physically, more than anything else) Fonte.
It's crazy how one game can change everything. Before the Middlesborugh game everyone was excited for Fonte to be back.
Personally I'd play...
- Button -
- Fredricks - Kalas - Ream - Odoi -
- McDonald -
- Johansen - Norwood - Sess
- Fonte - AK -
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Rather take a risk than keep on drawing. Can't get much worse.
Well it can, its called the 10 places below us, the 16 teams which have conceded more and the 19 teams which have lost more.
We need to rotate, of course we do. You're right professionals players should be able to handle multiple games, but putting in fresh players is far better than not. Sess is also 17 and will need a rest at some point.
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2017, 12:55:54 PM
I don't see us needing to rotate. Professional footballers can handle multiple games in a week just like they can handle jet lag after internationals abroad.
For me
Button
Fred - Kalas - Ream - Sess
McDonald - Johansen
Fonte
Ojo - Kamara - Kebano
I would go with that as well.
Also don't forget QPR are playing tonight at Barnsley tonight and that won't be easy, our squad is stronger than there's IMO, so think we should go all out tonight with our strongest team available and worry about a Friday tomorrow!
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on September 26, 2017, 01:26:25 PM
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Rather take a risk than keep on drawing. Can't get much worse.
Well it can, its called the 10 places below us, the 16 teams which have conceded more and the 19 teams which have lost more.
We need to rotate, of course we do. You're right professionals players should be able to handle multiple games, but putting in fresh players is far better than not. Sess is also 17 and will need a rest at some point.
Anywhere below 6th is a failure. Doesn't matter if you finish 7th through to 21st. For a team like ours, any of those positions is a failure.
Quote from: J.Perkins on September 26, 2017, 02:41:51 PM
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on September 26, 2017, 01:26:25 PM
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Rather take a risk than keep on drawing. Can't get much worse.
Well it can, its called the 10 places below us, the 16 teams which have conceded more and the 19 teams which have lost more.
We need to rotate, of course we do. You're right professionals players should be able to handle multiple games, but putting in fresh players is far better than not. Sess is also 17 and will need a rest at some point.
Anywhere below 6th is a failure. Doesn't matter if you finish 7th through to 21st. For a team like ours, any of those positions is a failure.
I didn't say that not being successful is fine, of course it isnt. The quote was:
Rather take a risk than keep on drawing. Can't get much worse. which is clearly not true.
The team is gelling and with Soares, Cairney and a fit Fonte we will be a different team all together as yo can start playing Sess in LW and have our strongest midfield/ attack. As SJ said in his interview, no need to have a Plan B if it isn't as strong as your Plan B - which it isnt.
I reckon he will start
Button
Fredericks
Ream
Kalas
Sess
Mcdonald
Johansson
Norwood
Mollo
Kebano
Fonte
Subs
Betts
Djalo
Odoi
Graham
Ojo
Kamara
Cisse
Quote from: westcliff white on September 26, 2017, 03:03:59 PM
I reckon he will start
Button
Fredericks
Ream
Kalas
Sess
Mcdonald
Johansson
Norwood
Mollo
Kebano
Fonte
Subs
Betts
Djalo
Odoi
Graham
Ojo
Kamara
Cisse
+1 on Mollo, I've decided I was wrong and should have put Mollo in.
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2017, 03:22:16 PM
Are we predicting the team or giving our own personal preference? As to the former Surely we all know with Joka it will be the same 11 that started Saturday, given we played well. Except to the extent a change is forced, ie Kebano in for the injured Ayite I assume. I will eat my hat if he starts Mollo.
i always say it isnt what I would pick but what I reckon Joka would pick, as i think thats far easier
Quote from: westcliff white on September 26, 2017, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2017, 03:22:16 PM
Are we predicting the team or giving our own personal preference? As to the former Surely we all know with Joka it will be the same 11 that started Saturday, given we played well. Except to the extent a change is forced, ie Kebano in for the injured Ayite I assume. I will eat my hat if he starts Mollo.
i always say it isnt what I would pick but what I reckon Joka would pick, as i think thats far easier
Just of interest WW, would would your 11 be? and formation.
Sessegnon shouldn't play three times in six games and Odoi is more than capable. Otherwise defensive unit as per recent games. KMac and Johansen pick themselves. Remaining four to include AK47 Fonte and Kebano. Cisse to complete the eleven.
Quote from: Carborundum on September 26, 2017, 03:50:57 PM
Sessegnon shouldn't play three times in six games and Odoi is more than capable. Otherwise defensive unit as per recent games. KMac and Johansen pick themselves. Remaining four to include AK47 Fonte and Kebano. Cisse to complete the eleven.
Sess needs a rest. he cant play 3 games in a week, that's mental and would actually be poor mangement from Joka when you have Odoi in the wings.
Quote from: JoelH5 on September 26, 2017, 12:57:36 PM
Quote from: Neil D on September 26, 2017, 12:14:24 PM
As long as Kamara starts. I think he is ideally suited to playing up front on his own - much more so than the rather lightweight (physically, more than anything else) Fonte.
It's crazy how one game can change everything. Before the Middlesborugh game everyone was excited for Fonte to be back.
Personally I'd play...
- Button -
- Fredricks - Kalas - Ream - Odoi -
- McDonald -
- Johansen - Norwood - Sess
- Fonte - AK -
I saw nothing in Kamara that warrants a start, he blazed a very easy chance over the bar, one tap in header doesn't mean he now strolls in to the team, he's been really poor for us in every game previously. That said, he's made a big step up joining us and with time could become very useful, he's fast, strong and gets in good positions.
Button
Fredericks-Kalas-Ream-Odoi
McDonald-Johansen
Ojo-Fonte-Sess
Kamara
Would love to see some flexibility from Jokane in this tough road game. Can't give a coach like Warburton the keys to our car. Fonte can play in offensive midfield so Jokane doesn't even need to change his formation. But when we attack Fonte can act as 2nd striker in front of goal, which has been our weakest area this season: Nobody in the box but too many static bodies in midfield who impede each other. While not always perfect, I like the physical presence Ojo and Kamara bring to the table. Sess should never play in the back four again, he is a terrible defender. Just put him in midfield to take the pressure off him and get him back on track. Down the left wing he is our best option over 90 minutes. I love Kebano but he always disappears after halftime, much better sub than starter.
I would like to see
Button
Fredericks Kalas Ream Sessegnon
McDonald Johansen
Ojo Fonte Kebano
Kamara
Subs - Bettinelli , Djalo , Odoi , Ciise , Norwood , Mollo , Graham
I can see sess being rested for a game or two more likely when soares is fit.
Team wise kebano for floyd cant see many other changes.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on September 26, 2017, 03:34:39 PM
Quote from: westcliff white on September 26, 2017, 03:24:21 PM
Quote from: Statto on September 26, 2017, 03:22:16 PM
Are we predicting the team or giving our own personal preference? As to the former Surely we all know with Joka it will be the same 11 that started Saturday, given we played well. Except to the extent a change is forced, ie Kebano in for the injured Ayite I assume. I will eat my hat if he starts Mollo.
i always say it isnt what I would pick but what I reckon Joka would pick, as i think thats far easier
Just of interest WW, would would your 11 be? and formation.
Firstly I disagree re sess, while i agree he is young, I firmly believe he should be able
To and eager to play 3 games in 7 days. Usually 3 in 8 sat, tue and say so not much differ nice.
My team would be
Button
Fredericks
Kalas
Team
Odour
McDonald
Johansson
Ojo
Fonte
Sessegnon
Kamara
Subs
Betts
Djalo
Kebano
Mollo
Cisse
Graham
Norwood
I like a lot of pace upfront, only change to that would be be Norwood for Fonte I felt Fonte looked unfit on Saturday but would like to see him play behind Kamara for a game
Betts
Fred
Ream
Kalas
Odoi
Cisse
McD
Jo
Sess
Neeskens
AK
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKqvSmsW4AArqIF?format=jpg&name=small)
Quote from: Madman Maddle on September 26, 2017, 04:07:20 PM
Button
Fredericks-Kalas-Ream-Odoi
McDonald-Johansen
Ojo-Fonte-Sess
Kamara
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Really happy with this.
That's exactly how it should be. Can shift from our base 4231 to 442 or 352 within a second if needed. Jokane well done! :Haynes The Maestro:
At least SJ has made another different attempt to try and win a match, if this fails perhaps he should try a random selection of numbers from a hat for the QPR match. I hope we win tonight but as usual lately I am not over optimistic, somebody still has to score for us and we need to score 1 more than we concede.
Subs??
Looks a good attacking team.
Looks good on paper...Let's hope it turns up trumps.Coyw
Get in!!! Exactly what I wanted. Great team
Subs. Betts. Djalo, Mollo, Graham, Norwood, Cisse. Kebano.
I like the look of this lineup !!⚽️👍
Like this line-up was hoping Odoi would start , pretty attacking I think, nice to see Slav being so positive COYW
Please, please no more injuries.
It is certainly an attacking team and a gamble for an away match. But with luck and skill the gamble deserves to pay off. Whatever happens you have to congratulate the manager for living up to the comment by his opposite number that Fulham take chances.
Don't forget Sess had no closed season
He was playing under something World/European/East Anglia cup then had about a week off before training started
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on September 26, 2017, 07:10:42 PM
I like the look of this lineup !!⚽️👍
I will like it even more if it is a winning one! Enjoy!
