A Message From Our Chairman
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Greetings to everyone in the Fulham family!
I understand the celebrations are still going strong in many parts of SW6. I know for a fact that toasts to your Club continue throughout the world, as I have been privileged to participate in many of them! So, while the afterglow of our victory and promotion on May 26 continues, I just wanted to say that you have my approval to keep the party going. There should be no closure to the joy and happiness we all were able to enjoy last month at Wembley Stadium, and I will always be humbled to have been part of something so magical after serving five seasons as your chairman, knowing that many of you waited forever for this moment and, ultimately, the memory of a lifetime.
If the enormity of everything we saw and earned in our 1-0 win over Aston Villa didn't seem real, it certainly must have on Thursday with the release of our 2018-2019 fixtures in the English Premier League.
As I noted the last time I wrote to you, just before the match at Wembley, the Sky Bet Championship was (and is) a fantastic league with great clubs, managers and players, some of the best grounds in England, passionate supporters and a competitive level that didn't permit the luxury of even a brief losing spell. Teams promoted from the Championship to the Premier League earn it, and I commend Aston Villa and their supporters for their effort and showing at Wembley that perhaps on another day would have been enough to send their side through.
As the victory at Wembley over a tough Aston Villa squad was extremely emotional to me, and likely you, the release of the fixtures on Thursday was fulfilling and satisfying. It's wonderful to see Fulham in the same company, again, with recent world football powers like Manchester City and Liverpool. And the five London derbies at Craven Cottage, starting with the season opener in less than two months against our friend Roy Hodgson and Crystal Palace, are reason alone for high anticipation for the upcoming campaign.
And, I like how our fixtures shake out overall. After being on the road on Boxing Day the past four seasons we played in the Championship, as well as in my first season as chairman in the Premier League in 2013, I'm very happy that we will finally be home for the holidays against Wolves on Boxing Day and again on December 29 vs. Huddersfield Town, followed by a London derby at Arsenal on New Year's Day. That's good news for our players, their families and our supporters who can see Fulham play in person throughout the holiday season without having to leave London.
It's also impossible to overlook our immediate return to Wembley Stadium to face Spurs in the second match of the season. It's an away fixture, but it will feel like home!
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I'm just overjoyed for everyone this summer as we look forward to Premier League action again in August. The Premier League is the most watched football league in the world, broadcast in over 180 countries to around one billion households. The Premier League counts more than three billion followers globally, ensuring that your club and the values it stands for will be reintroduced to the world. An added benefit of that is the impressive and excellent work by the Fulham Football Club Foundation will be brought to an increased global audience. The Foundation will deliver an array of Premier League community initiatives, in addition some of their ground-breaking programmes already developed.
We will continue in the months ahead to shape our roster for the Premier League, but in the meantime I hope you'll enjoy the FIFA World Cup with friends and family knowing that it's a fact – we're going up! I also wish England the very best this evening vs. Tunisia and throughout the tournament, but I do know Fulham has fans everywhere who support other national teams in all corners of the globe. So, to everyone – good luck in Russia!
Thanks for your kind words over the years and especially over the past three weeks. Enjoy the summer! I'll see you at Craven Cottage very soon.
COYW!
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Shahid Khan, Chairman
A very nice message.
I have to admit I was hoping he'd be telling us we'd signed Mitro though!
I like that.
I know it doesn't matter 1 jot, whether I do or not, but the fact is I do.
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Again ,a class act
Quote from: snarks on June 18, 2018, 10:58:39 AM
I like that.
I know it doesn't matter 1 jot, whether I do or not, but the fact is I do.
So do I
Fine man.
It certainly is a nice gesture, and i appreciate it.
Like statto, I don't really see the point.. no real content in the message. Just a keep partying and prepare for the Prem... No encouraging snippets such as we are in the process of signing 5 (or even1) world class or Prem league player ...
No real content but I thought it nice that he kept in touch during the close season.
Quote from: Statto on June 18, 2018, 12:27:09 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 18, 2018, 10:45:32 AM
many of you waited forever for this moment and, ultimately, the memory of a lifetime.
Steady on. It was not the Europa League final
It was getting back to where we were when he took over, ie back to square one
My personal report card for our chairman has gone from grade F in his first couple of seasons to a B-
Don't really see the purpose of this statement to be honest, seems a but unnecessary and OTT
Are you ever happy??
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Quote from: Statto on June 18, 2018, 12:27:09 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 18, 2018, 10:45:32 AM
many of you waited forever for this moment and, ultimately, the memory of a lifetime.
Steady on. It was not the Europa League final
It was getting back to where we were when he took over, ie back to square one
My personal report card for our chairman has gone from grade F in his first couple of seasons to a B-
Don't really see the purpose of this statement to be honest, seems a but unnecessary and OTT
Come on Statto if he said nothing you would be complaining about that, give the guy a break
Quote from: alfie on June 18, 2018, 01:02:44 PM
Quote from: Statto on June 18, 2018, 12:27:09 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 18, 2018, 10:45:32 AM
many of you waited forever for this moment and, ultimately, the memory of a lifetime.
Steady on. It was not the Europa League final
It was getting back to where we were when he took over, ie back to square one
My personal report card for our chairman has gone from grade F in his first couple of seasons to a B-
Don't really see the purpose of this statement to be honest, seems a but unnecessary and OTT
Come on Statto if he said nothing you would be complaining about that, give the guy a break
exactly my thoughts!
Quote from: Statto on June 18, 2018, 12:27:09 PM
Quote from: Friendsoffulham on June 18, 2018, 10:45:32 AM
many of you waited forever for this moment and, ultimately, the memory of a lifetime.
Steady on. It was not the Europa League final
It was getting back to where we were when he took over, ie back to square one
My personal report card for our chairman has gone from grade F in his first couple of seasons to a B-
Don't really see the purpose of this statement to be honest, seems a but unnecessary and OTT
Tend to agree... felt it was slightly empty in terms of genuine content. At one point early on it sounded like he was calling time on his relationship with the club.
I suppose the good thing is that people he's been meeting with have kept on congratulating him this far along and it's making a bigger impression on him than he had expected and hopefully pushing him closer to the club and making and concerted effort to invest and see us become successful.
Other things I took out of it included his mentioning of Wembley as almost a second home - close to purchasing? The fact that all his pictures include him with or congratulating slavisa.
I suppose he is also just excited and aware of the figures for the premiership - it'll be interesting to see how that influences the commercial side of our club and whether we start seeing more collaborations between us and the jaguars.
The one thing over the years that I've noticed is that Fulham fans do tend to be found in the oddest but relatively senior positions within business and public life (latest revelation being coo of yum group which owns KFC, pizza hut etc ).. whilst we are genuinely well thought of as a club by most other fans.
Next though I'd like to see a note from our chairman with 5 exciting signings standing next to him and a real statement of intent being made about the direction and ambition of the club all with slavisas seal of approval.
I appreciate it's an ask, but after 5 years in relative wilderness rebranding fulham this summer ambitions exciting /ambitious etc would be the perfect way to tackle the premiership.
He does write a really lovely letter (or his PR man does) and it gives out a nice warm glow!
He's close to being as good an owner that you could ask for but all that's been achieved so far has only got us back to where we were when he took over.
So sweet words are very welcome but a little more achieving has to be done before he's up their with the best.
Good stuff all the same!
Quote from: Fernhurst on June 18, 2018, 11:48:38 AM
Quote from: snarks on June 18, 2018, 10:58:39 AM
I like that.
I know it doesn't matter 1 jot, whether I do or not, but the fact is I do.
So do I
Fine man.
+1 Better than Clay.
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PR man that's a bit sexist do you think!
It would be nice to hear his policy but I guess we will find that out soon enough.
Nice of him to even conact us, typically English that some of us even find fault with a random act of togetherness!!
Ok we are back where we were when he took over.....but it wasn't his policies that sent us down.
I know MAF and his outward enthusiasm is a tough act to follow but I think Mr.Khan has the ability to overshadow all of MAFs achievements....that saying MAF will,to me, always have legend status at this club.
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Quote from: Holders on June 18, 2018, 12:41:40 PM
No real content but I thought it nice that he kept in touch during the close season.
I agree - not every owner would bother to do that.
I'm definitely not finding fault with this, it's a nice touch. However the fact remains that it was hardly "the memory of a lifetime" we have been promoted to the prem before under the previous owner and did it in some style.
So, in summary; nice to be in touch but a bit heavy on the hyperbole and lacking in any new content. Let's hear about some urgently needed signings next please.
Quote from: Twig on June 18, 2018, 03:33:57 PM
I'm definitely not finding fault with this, it's a nice touch. However the fact remains that it was hardly "the memory of a lifetime" we have been promoted to the prem before under the previous owner and did it in some style.
So, in summary; nice to be in touch but a bit heavy on the hyperbole and lacking in any new content. Let's hear about some urgently needed signings next please.
the fact it was done at wembley in the manner we did is what he is alluding to under the memory of a lifetime so for that reason, he is correct
Quote from: Twig on June 18, 2018, 03:33:57 PM
I'm definitely not finding fault with this, it's a nice touch. However the fact remains that it was hardly "the memory of a lifetime" we have been promoted to the prem before under the previous owner and did it in some style.
So, in summary; nice to be in touch but a bit heavy on the hyperbole and lacking in any new content. Let's hear about some urgently needed signings next please.
Under Tigana it was a great season and we did it in style and I have great memories of that and other promotions.
But I have to say for raw energy and emotion I have never as a fulham fan experienced anything like Wembley. Winning a trophy and going up as champions is of course special, but if we could only ever go up by winning a final like that again, Id take that day over a long slog of a season and eventually winning it. I'd take it of course, but nothing to me beats a one off game.
I've supported Fulham for over 60 years and I can quite honestly say it was my
"Memory of a lifetime"
Last time we got promoted was on the back of 11 straight wins so we were nailed on to go up.
First game attended.
Cup semifinals
1975
2010
And other significant games too numerous to mention but Preston at home to win the league looms large (1971?) lost 0-1
For me personally our Wembley experience was nothing other than an explosion of joy. My son has a video of the seconds after the game, and I'm muttering the same words as Gentleman Jim "Thank God"
So for me I agree wholeheartedly with our Chairman.
I like the message. It seems to me it is showing that he has become hooked and more like one of us than the quiet business man.
I of course would have liked him to say i am splashing out multi millions to ensure we get to Europe at the first time of asking but he cannot do that or the asking prices will sky rocket when a fulham rep turns up.
I am very happy he wrote and like the style!
Quote from: nose returns on June 18, 2018, 04:26:34 PM
I like the message. It seems to me it is showing that he has become hooked and more like one of us than the quiet business man.
I of course would have liked him to say i am splashing out multi millions to ensure we get to Europe at the first time of asking but he cannot do that or the asking prices will sky rocket when a fulham rep turns up.
I am very happy he wrote and like the style!
You're quite right - he can't show his hand on that account.
You can't replicate the Tigana years because of FFP and you can't blame the drop totally on the chairman. He tried using a team of good pros to pick a manager that didn't work but he got us Slavisa. Stats didn't totally work out so he made a change there. Lastly he opened his wallet in January. Which when you add that to the mix of a good manager and a team starting to rediscover themselves it made the difference. The winning run came to an end and let's be fair did we really think we would come out winners? It had "Fulhamish" written all over it.
Then there was the White Wall of Wembley ( whoever came up with that deserves a big prize) Could you imagine that at Hamburg!
Mistakes have been made on his watch but plenty of Clubs have Chairman making mistakes. He seems to learn pretty quick though. Even Nose is happy! I think he's good for Fulham and I hope he stays and gets us to Wembley again and not just to play Spurs. We haven't brought anyone yet so people are getting a bit twitchy. The letter has come at the right moment.
Nice one 051
Quote from: Andy S on June 18, 2018, 02:09:20 PM
PR man that's a bit sexist do you think!
There's a video of an interview done with shahid when he went to a Fulham game then entertained people on his yacht in london and then watched the jaguars at Wembley - around the time trump had and go at NFL players for protesting during the national anthem.
In the video it shows a press release statement being prepared by his PR man and shown to shahid to give to the seal of approval /once over.
Very common if you do press stuff for an individual... but key point being the press person was a guy in this instance.. so not sexist just factual.
I'm very happy with the Chairman's statement.
Finding fault where there is none is the sign of an unhappy soul.
It's feel good time not "Shad OUT!" Time
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Think this is the interview - didn't watch the video back but if it's the right one you'll see it
I guess everyone has a different memory of a lifetime and it is a combination of things; the result, the way it was achieved, the company one was with, the partying afterwards ..... For me it was a slightly odd one, the away leg draw against Hamburger SV. Somehow we sensed (actually knew) we would make it to the final after a terrific away performance and we partied in great and good humoured company afterwards until late.
Quote from: Andy S on June 18, 2018, 02:09:20 PM
PR man that's a bit sexist do you think!
I think the problems in your head!
Can't believe so many so happy with this "statement". It contains words but says absolutely nothing. Cannot understand how this makes him class etc?
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Quote from: Andy S on June 18, 2018, 02:09:20 PM
PR man that's a bit sexist do you think!
I think the problems in your head!
Andy S you need to relax and chill mate, as Bill Taylor's Apprentice has identified the problem appears to be in your Uncle Ned.
To much of a diet of PC is no good to anyone.
I think it is a nice statement and it shows he is a decent fella :)
COYW
Bit peculiar this statement . It literally has given no information other than his thoughts and reads like a diary entry.
It was a great win but in hindsight, as owner or custodian, he's brought the club back to where he left it. Would have been fine if he had also issued similar statements or been as visible when we were relegated, been rock bottom of the championship or undergoing poor form.. he seems to pipe up when we're doing well and looks as if he wants the credit , but times like the above or when the fans are looking clarity and confirmation such as last pre season when his son decided to employ his mate and run amok, he was nowhere to be seen.
On the flip side, any message is a good message , but if there was to be any communication from any club official, I'd prefer it to come from Slav himself. It's similar to new signing announcements if anyone has noticed, there's always a quote from Khan and nothing from Slav.
If the announcement shows he's going to be a more hands on owner then fair enough, but showing up a few times a season, then portraying himself as saviour when he helped orchestrate the downfall is a tad offputting.
Realise everyone has differing viewpoints though but I'd be happier to hear him next while announcing a new signing , showing his intent for the year ahead
Quote from: MJG on June 18, 2018, 03:47:05 PM
Quote from: Twig on June 18, 2018, 03:33:57 PM
I'm definitely not finding fault with this, it's a nice touch. However the fact remains that it was hardly "the memory of a lifetime" we have been promoted to the prem before under the previous owner and did it in some style.
So, in summary; nice to be in touch but a bit heavy on the hyperbole and lacking in any new content. Let's hear about some urgently needed signings next please.
Under Tigana it was a great season and we did it in style and I have great memories of that and other promotions.
But I have to say for raw energy and emotion I have never as a fulham fan experienced anything like Wembley. Winning a trophy and going up as champions is of course special, but if we could only ever go up by winning a final like that again, Id take that day over a long slog of a season and eventually winning it. I'd take it of course, but nothing to me beats a one off game.
Also no FFP when we went up last time
The statement is a nice and welcome PR bit to remind us we are all on the same side. Nothing wrong with a bit of PR. As for the memory of a lifetime. I would put it right up there with the FA Cup final. Those who prefer the Europa run and final make a good point but Europe was never that important to me over domestic success.
Quote from: Tempest on June 18, 2018, 06:06:33 PM
Can't believe so many so happy with this "statement". It contains words but says absolutely nothing. Cannot understand how this makes him class etc?
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Do people enjoy putting the guy down? To me it says a lot, personally I think it shows that his belief in the club is a lot more than people give him credit for.
It's a very well written letter to the fans. I doubt he wrote it, but I'm fairly certain he reviewed it and maybe edited it. I would dearly like to know what his long game is. How it fits with NFL expansion team plans, if at all. Buying Wembley... He needs to find creative ways to buy quality talent so that we stay up after promotion. I don't know the statistics on first year promoted teams managing to survive relegation from the Premier League, but I'll bet the percentages are poor. This is the transition year. Just staying up this first year will be a big accomplishment.
To be fair it's a nice enough touch - if you like that kind of thing.
Personally speaking I read it and thought it a little out of place for a hard working business person to write. Sure you celebrate your attainments but you also know they are moments in time to be savoured for a day or so (the memories will always come back when you want them to) and then it is back to business. And so I'd have liked something a bit more constructive, business like, and reassuring that hard work is already happening to secure players so the Club can make all that hard work count for something in the next, just as important, stage of the 'Project'.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 19, 2018, 09:05:00 AM
To be fair it's a nice enough touch - if you like that kind of thing.
Personally speaking I read it and thought it a little out of place for a hard working business person to write. Sure you celebrate your attainments but you also know they are moments in time to be savoured for a day or so (the memories will always come back when you want them to) and then it is back to business. And so I'd have liked something a bit more constructive, business like, and reassuring that hard work is already happening to secure players so the Club can make all that hard work count for something in the next, just as important, stage of the 'Project'.
But then your statement to the fans would still be criticised for telling us the bleeding obvious. Football fans are really into the emotion of the game and there is nothing wrong with the owner continuing to join into that emotion. It may be a nothing statement but it was meant to convey unity and excitement. If you are only going to savour your success for a day or so then life would be even worse than it already is.
I think that both Mo and Shaid have done their bit. As always it is where we go from now that counts
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 19, 2018, 09:26:07 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 19, 2018, 09:05:00 AM
To be fair it's a nice enough touch - if you like that kind of thing.
Personally speaking I read it and thought it a little out of place for a hard working business person to write. Sure you celebrate your attainments but you also know they are moments in time to be savoured for a day or so (the memories will always come back when you want them to) and then it is back to business. And so I'd have liked something a bit more constructive, business like, and reassuring that hard work is already happening to secure players so the Club can make all that hard work count for something in the next, just as important, stage of the 'Project'.
But then your statement to the fans would still be criticised for telling us the bleeding obvious. Football fans are really into the emotion of the game and there is nothing wrong with the owner continuing to join into that emotion. It may be a nothing statement but it was meant to convey unity and excitement. If you are only going to savour your success for a day or so then life would be even worse than it already is.
It'll be criticised by somebody for sure and
it is already saying the bleeding obvious for pity sake. As I already said Khan is a business man and his business was not made powerful via sentimentality or sharing 'joy' for anything longer than as necessary. As I said if you like postcards from the seaside then it does its bit.
"Khan doesn't care"
*Releases statement showing he does*
"The statement doesn't say anything"
Quote from: toshes mate on June 19, 2018, 10:10:16 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 19, 2018, 09:26:07 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 19, 2018, 09:05:00 AM
To be fair it's a nice enough touch - if you like that kind of thing.
Personally speaking I read it and thought it a little out of place for a hard working business person to write. Sure you celebrate your attainments but you also know they are moments in time to be savoured for a day or so (the memories will always come back when you want them to) and then it is back to business. And so I'd have liked something a bit more constructive, business like, and reassuring that hard work is already happening to secure players so the Club can make all that hard work count for something in the next, just as important, stage of the 'Project'.
But then your statement to the fans would still be criticised for telling us the bleeding obvious. Football fans are really into the emotion of the game and there is nothing wrong with the owner continuing to join into that emotion. It may be a nothing statement but it was meant to convey unity and excitement. If you are only going to savour your success for a day or so then life would be even worse than it already is.
It'll be criticised by somebody for sure and it is already saying the bleeding obvious for pity sake. As I already said Khan is a business man and his business was not made powerful via sentimentality or sharing 'joy' for anything longer than as necessary. As I said if you like postcards from the seaside then it does its bit.
I agree. It might be the bleedin' obvious but at least he tried to keep in touch during the close season. As a successful business man he's hardly going to put his cards on the table regarding transfers. A postcard from the seaside is an excellent analogy.
Quote from: EJL on June 19, 2018, 01:04:46 PM
"Khan doesn't care"
*Releases statement showing he does*
"The statement doesn't say anything"
That is an excellent summary!
He didn't have to do anything.
The fact that he did is the main thing.
He simply can't win can he?
Quote from: Statto on June 19, 2018, 08:04:05 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 19, 2018, 05:36:49 PM
He simply can't win can he?
Er... Well he could always just ensure we have a good transfer window that reflects the grand statements he made a few weeks ago, ensure the redevelopment of the Riverside stand continues to progress, and deliver timely, informative updates on those things... or am I just being unreasonable expecting a chairman to do that?
He does a fluffy piece still talking about Wembley... Just as we all are... And it was a totally unexpected posting by him, no it didn't give away trade secrets or much else, but as a message from someone who's been critiqued for not caring or being absent, as just a but of communication it was fine. But of course that's not enough is it? Every line, every sentence, every paragraph is taken apart and looked at. Maybe best for him to just keep quiet and allow everyone to make up their own thoughts.
Quote from: MJG on June 19, 2018, 09:56:56 PM
He does a fluffy piece still talking about Wembley... Just as we all are... And it was a totally unexpected posting by him, no it didn't give away trade secrets or much else, but as a message from someone who's been critiqued for not caring or being absent, as just a but of communication it was fine. But of course that's not enough is it? Every line, every sentence, every paragraph is taken apart and looked at. Maybe best for him to just keep quiet and allow everyone to make up their own thoughts.
But, MJG, he is not a 'victim', no matter how you want to play it. He is an absent owner - his choice. He is keeping in touch - his choice. He chooses a 'fluffy' way of communicating - his choice. He announced his interest in Wembley Stadium just before we play an important game there - his choice. He is doing what he chooses to do, and none of us can complain about that because, at the end of the day, it is his Club bought with his money. But, as supporters of Fulham for much longer than Khan has even known of the Club's existence we can comment upon his choices and his words, especially in the absence of his 'actions' which, compared to fluff, are worth so much more.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 08:14:57 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 19, 2018, 09:56:56 PM
He does a fluffy piece still talking about Wembley... Just as we all are... And it was a totally unexpected posting by him, no it didn't give away trade secrets or much else, but as a message from someone who's been critiqued for not caring or being absent, as just a but of communication it was fine. But of course that's not enough is it? Every line, every sentence, every paragraph is taken apart and looked at. Maybe best for him to just keep quiet and allow everyone to make up their own thoughts.
But, MJG, he is not a 'victim', no matter how you want to play it. He is an absent owner - his choice. He is keeping in touch - his choice. He chooses a 'fluffy' way of communicating - his choice. He announced his interest in Wembley Stadium just before we play an important game there - his choice. He is doing what he chooses to do, and none of us can complain about that because, at the end of the day, it is his Club bought with his money. But, as supporters of Fulham for much longer than Khan has even known of the Club's existence we can comment upon his choices and his words, especially in the absence of his 'actions' which, compared to fluff, are worth so much more.
Where did I say he was a victim?
He didn't announce Wembley it was the FA on the morning of a meeting they had, its been a long time before that he approached the FA, well before we got to Wembley.
People do complain about it though don't they? Only need to look back over this thread.
In the end he's an owner who has deleted vast majority of what happens to others at the club. He's not going to talk about transfers and budgets in the detail people want, no one does at any club really.
I liked the message, it was very unexpected and I believe Wembley has seen a penny drop for the Khans in many ways.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 08:14:57 AM
But, as supporters of Fulham for much longer than Khan has even known of the Club's existence we can comment upon his choices and his words, especially in the absence of his 'actions' which, compared to fluff, are worth so much more.
It is June 20 - we have been promoted for 26 days
What were you expecting him to have been done in this time?
It's a simple greeting thanking everyone for their support
Quote from: MJG on June 20, 2018, 08:22:13 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 08:14:57 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 19, 2018, 09:56:56 PM
He does a fluffy piece still talking about Wembley... Just as we all are... And it was a totally unexpected posting by him, no it didn't give away trade secrets or much else, but as a message from someone who's been critiqued for not caring or being absent, as just a but of communication it was fine. But of course that's not enough is it? Every line, every sentence, every paragraph is taken apart and looked at. Maybe best for him to just keep quiet and allow everyone to make up their own thoughts.
But, MJG, he is not a 'victim', no matter how you want to play it. He is an absent owner - his choice. He is keeping in touch - his choice. He chooses a 'fluffy' way of communicating - his choice. He announced his interest in Wembley Stadium just before we play an important game there - his choice. He is doing what he chooses to do, and none of us can complain about that because, at the end of the day, it is his Club bought with his money. But, as supporters of Fulham for much longer than Khan has even known of the Club's existence we can comment upon his choices and his words, especially in the absence of his 'actions' which, compared to fluff, are worth so much more.
Where did I say he was a victim?
He didn't announce Wembley it was the FA on the morning of a meeting they had, its been a long time before that he approached the FA, well before we got to Wembley.
People do complain about it though don't they? Only need to look back over this thread.
In the end he's an owner who has deleted vast majority of what happens to others at the club. He's not going to talk about transfers and budgets in the detail people want, no one does at any club really.
I liked the message, it was very unexpected and I believe Wembley has seen a penny drop for the Khans in many ways.
He agreed the date and time of the meeting with the FA, I would assume, and would/could have requested full confidentiality about his offer to buy until an appropriate and agreed moment, I would assume. In other words those outcomes were as a result of his strategic choices as a shrewd and successful business person who has amassed a huge fortune. He must know how people work to have got where he has got. I don't want him to 'talk' about anything. I want to be able to judge him by his actions - those things that absolutely negate the need for 'fluffy' PR releases in any shape or form.
Good for you that you enjoy postcards from the seaside or 'see you soon' texts or voice mail messages. I prefer the person who actually acts rather than is always 'just' keeping in touch.
Quote from: Roberty on June 20, 2018, 08:29:32 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 08:14:57 AM
But, as supporters of Fulham for much longer than Khan has even known of the Club's existence we can comment upon his choices and his words, especially in the absence of his 'actions' which, compared to fluff, are worth so much more.
It is June 20 - we have been promoted for 26 days
What were you expecting him to have been done in this time?
It's a simple greeting thanking everyone for their support
I expected nothing which if you had read my previous comments on the matter you would have already understood.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 08:39:45 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 20, 2018, 08:22:13 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 08:14:57 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 19, 2018, 09:56:56 PM
He does a fluffy piece still talking about Wembley... Just as we all are... And it was a totally unexpected posting by him, no it didn't give away trade secrets or much else, but as a message from someone who's been critiqued for not caring or being absent, as just a but of communication it was fine. But of course that's not enough is it? Every line, every sentence, every paragraph is taken apart and looked at. Maybe best for him to just keep quiet and allow everyone to make up their own thoughts.
But, MJG, he is not a 'victim', no matter how you want to play it. He is an absent owner - his choice. He is keeping in touch - his choice. He chooses a 'fluffy' way of communicating - his choice. He announced his interest in Wembley Stadium just before we play an important game there - his choice. He is doing what he chooses to do, and none of us can complain about that because, at the end of the day, it is his Club bought with his money. But, as supporters of Fulham for much longer than Khan has even known of the Club's existence we can comment upon his choices and his words, especially in the absence of his 'actions' which, compared to fluff, are worth so much more.
Where did I say he was a victim?
He didn't announce Wembley it was the FA on the morning of a meeting they had, its been a long time before that he approached the FA, well before we got to Wembley.
People do complain about it though don't they? Only need to look back over this thread.
In the end he's an owner who has deleted vast majority of what happens to others at the club. He's not going to talk about transfers and budgets in the detail people want, no one does at any club really.
I liked the message, it was very unexpected and I believe Wembley has seen a penny drop for the Khans in many ways.
He agreed the date and time of the meeting with the FA, I would assume, and would/could have requested full confidentiality about his offer to buy until an appropriate and agreed moment, I would assume. In other words those outcomes were as a result of his strategic choices as a shrewd and successful business person who has amassed a huge fortune. He must know how people work to have got where he has got. I don't want him to 'talk' about anything. I want to be able to judge him by his actions - those things that absolutely negate the need for 'fluffy' PR releases in any shape or form.
Good for you that you enjoy postcards from the seaside or 'see you soon' texts or voice mail messages. I prefer the person who actually acts rather than is always 'just' keeping in touch.
it was an FA council meeting where it had to be made public.
Quote from: MJG on June 20, 2018, 08:45:03 AM
It was an FA council meeting where it had to be made public.
Which, of course, he would/could have deduced the timing of in discussions before he made the offer, but he wasn't to know Fulham would get to a 'play-off' final....
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 08:55:56 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 20, 2018, 08:45:03 AM
It was an FA council meeting where it had to be made public.
Which, of course, he would/could have deduced the timing of in discussions before he made the offer, but he wasn't to know Fulham would get to a 'play-off' final....
considering he first mentioned the idea last year I don't think it was anywhere near his thoughts and of course the FA have to consider and talk about it to the wider board/council at some point.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 08:39:45 AM
Good for you that you enjoy postcards from the seaside or 'see you soon' texts or voice mail messages. I prefer the person who actually acts rather than is always 'just' keeping in touch.
Then why bother putting a "message" on a board? Unless we actually worked side by side with the guy we don't know what he's doing or not doing for the Club. All we can do is piece together the information at hand. Results, interviews, letters from the Chairman, acquisitions etc.
To my way of thinking the Chairmans letter was well timed as the Club had no other news to speak of and well intentioned. I'll read any bit of news concerning the Club. Transfer rumours, interviews, new strip. To my way of thinking it enables you (not 100% accurately, granted) to piece together how the Club are doing away from the pitch.
Any mention of the Khans seems to always end in a bit of an argument. Which is a shame as we all support the same Club and love them or loath them the Club is back in the Premiership.
Quote from: MJG on June 20, 2018, 08:58:27 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 08:55:56 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 20, 2018, 08:45:03 AM
It was an FA council meeting where it had to be made public.
Which, of course, he would/could have deduced the timing of in discussions before he made the offer, but he wasn't to know Fulham would get to a 'play-off' final....
considering he first mentioned the idea last year I don't think it was anywhere near his thoughts and of course the FA have to consider and talk about it to the wider board/council at some point.
Mentioning an 'idea' and making a serious cash offer are two completely different things. The former wouldn't necessarily warrant the need for the FA to take it any further; the latter would.
Quote from: Statto on June 20, 2018, 09:11:19 AM
In response to a few posts... I think there needs to be a distinction between criticising and just not being impressed.
Not being impressed sums me up simply because what is there to be impressed about. Khan wakes up one morning to his son on the 'phone saying "the natives seem to be getting restless..."
Quote from: Statto on June 20, 2018, 09:11:19 AM
In response to a few posts... I think there needs to be a distinction between criticising and just not being impressed.
I wouldn't complain about this statement and I don't think many actually are. I'd say the worst reaction, and my reaction, is just indifference, ie, this statement means nothing, I'm not impressed in any way.
For the record, personally I'm content with the *actions* Khan is taking at the moment for the management of our club. Of course that will change if we don't show ambition and competence in the transfer market over the coming months... But for the time being, nothing in this statement makes me unhappy or critical, i just don't care about it.
I agree.
I started reading, soon realised there was no real content, and skim read the remainder.
I just feel that this was most likely a way for Khan to score simple points with the more easily buoyed fans. Points in the bank are helpful when tides turn in the future eg unsuccessful transfer windows etc.
However as Statto says, we are in no way criticising Khan. Indifferent is a good description actually.
Quote from: VicHalomsLovechild on June 20, 2018, 09:51:59 AM
To my way of thinking the Chairmans letter was well timed as the Club had no other news to speak of
Please see my comment about 'natives getting restless (or at least some of them)' above. But at least the Chairman is thinking about you being restless and wants you to have another glass of Champagne and chill out....
My mistake, when I read it was just a postcard and had nothing in it and no content I took that to be a complaint by those making such statements. I now realise they were not complaining just wanting to show how unimpressed they all were. 092.gif
He makes no statement and gets criticised for non communication. He makes a statement and still gets criticised.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 10:07:14 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 20, 2018, 08:58:27 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 08:55:56 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 20, 2018, 08:45:03 AM
It was an FA council meeting where it had to be made public.
Which, of course, he would/could have deduced the timing of in discussions before he made the offer, but he wasn't to know Fulham would get to a 'play-off' final....
considering he first mentioned the idea last year I don't think it was anywhere near his thoughts and of course the FA have to consider and talk about it to the wider board/council at some point.
Mentioning an 'idea' and making a serious cash offer are two completely different things. The former wouldn't necessarily warrant the need for the FA to take it any further; the latter would.
An idea over a year ago that then led to an offer well before we were anywhere near Wembley.
I welcome any message, article, pressser onthe Offal. What I have no time for are the bedroom journo rhumours on the transfer thread. I gave up looking at this page weeks ago. All these so called authoritative sites do is copy & paste from others.. As soon as you read, "we understand, we are lead to believe, sources close to,etc".just pass it by.
I am amazed. I am usually the critical one but it seems to me this was genuinely a very nice personal message. Just saying he is one of us and enjoying the moment... i would have done the same. He doesn't need to say any more or less, i enjoyed his comments and am pleased he wrote them. In truth i was encouraged because it sounds like he is hooked!
Quote from: MJG on June 20, 2018, 11:12:09 AM
An idea over a year ago that then led to an offer well before we were anywhere near Wembley.
I checked with Sky about the original content of the FA announcement and they confirmed thus 'English football officials were tight-lipped on details publicly, saying only that "the FA has received an offer to buy Wembley Stadium" in late April'. And so somebody else must have tipped the media off as to Khan's identity. It is interesting to note that Khan's motive was reported to indicate he wanted to circumvent any competing NFL franchise interest in London other than Jacksonville Jaguars. It was only after further questioning that any connection with FFC (e,g, a move to Wembley Stadium) was deemed to be, at the very most, tenuous.
I mention this only to suggest that when it suits Khan it is private and when it suits Khan it is public.
Quote from: nose returns on June 20, 2018, 11:54:02 AM
I am amazed. I am usually the critical one but it seems to me this was genuinely a very nice personal message. Just saying he is one of us and enjoying the moment... i would have done the same. He doesn't need to say any more or less, i enjoyed his comments and am pleased he wrote them. In truth i was encouraged because it sounds like he is hooked!
Hi nose. Welcome back. I think it is you who has been hooked....
The bloke can't win. I'm one who said that I'd like to hear from him more often and I thought that it would have been nice if he'd come over to us at Wembley but perhaps he just doesn't seek the limelight like Fayed did.
Ok, this recent message doesn't say anything that takes us forward but he makes the point that he keeps being congratulated on our success and is obviously enjoying it. I also recognise that we're only back where we were when he took over.
The proof of the pudding will be in recruitment and the Riverside. Things have not moved on tangibly since the last report on the latter but apparently the club is meeting contractors today.
On recruitment, it will be much harder this window due to the WC and also having to get transfers completed before the season starts. I think most of us would support that but it hardly works in our favour this of all years. No doubt those who are concerned with these things will be well aware and taking things as far as they can in the meantime. We can hardly expect a blow by blow account. You just don't report on negotiations like that.
I take it at face value - it doesn't say much but I still welcome the fact that he did it.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 11:56:06 AM
Quote from: MJG on June 20, 2018, 11:12:09 AM
An idea over a year ago that then led to an offer well before we were anywhere near Wembley.
I checked with Sky about the original content of the FA announcement and they confirmed thus 'English football officials were tight-lipped on details publicly, saying only that "the FA has received an offer to buy Wembley Stadium" in late April'. And so somebody else must have tipped the media off as to Khan's identity. It is interesting to note that Khan's motive was reported to indicate he wanted to circumvent any competing NFL franchise interest in London other than Jacksonville Jaguars. It was only after further questioning that any connection with FFC (e,g, a move to Wembley Stadium) was deemed to be, at the very most, tenuous.
I mention this only to suggest that when it suits Khan it is private and when it suits Khan it is public.
it all became public in 26th April because as I said it was to be discussed at the FA
Quote from: MJG on June 20, 2018, 12:36:15 PM
it all became public in 26th April because as I said it was to be discussed at the FA
Yes, but you claimed in an earlier post the FA released Khan's name which they clearly didn't do. That was my point.
Quote from: Holders on June 20, 2018, 12:00:24 PM
The bloke can't win.
It isn't about winning. He is the owner and he'll say when his time is up - he may even let Tony loose - and so he cannot lose.
My view is the message is aimed at an easy win with people who already love him to bits. That is just ego talk and it is as cheap as chips.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 12:45:25 PM
Quote from: MJG on June 20, 2018, 12:36:15 PM
it all became public in 26th April because as I said it was to be discussed at the FA
Yes, but you claimed in an earlier post the FA released Khan's name which they clearly didn't do. That was my point.
It was from the reports on the day as it was made public because of the meeting.
I was going to say no more on this having said my bit at the beginning, and I'm not expecting this to change anyone's mind, but....
Look at the number of threads on here, talking about Wembley, there are quite a few, about how well the team played, the fans, top 10 things about the day. I still listen to Gentleman Jim going mad at the goal and the final whistle and it still gives me goose bumps.
Our Chairman, did pretty much the same, said he enjoyed it, said it was a memory of a lifetime (it is for me - one of several that I have, those memories will be my reminiscences when I'm old(er) and grey (er)).
I don't care whether it gave nothing away about his plans, it wasn't for that, that will come in due course. I just thought it was a nice touch from the man, and it came across as joyful. That's it, I don't care if it was for his ego, it gave me a satisfied feeling.
I enjoyed his calling Fulham "your club"
now off to add to my "don't see" list
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 11:57:12 AM
Quote from: nose returns on June 20, 2018, 11:54:02 AM
I am amazed. I am usually the critical one but it seems to me this was genuinely a very nice personal message. Just saying he is one of us and enjoying the moment... i would have done the same. He doesn't need to say any more or less, i enjoyed his comments and am pleased he wrote them. In truth i was encouraged because it sounds like he is hooked!
Hi nose. Welcome back. I think it is you who has been hooked....
I have been hooked for years.... not sure I have recovered my previous cutting edge yet
getting to wembley and winning a massive one off game was a rare privilege I am still shell shocked.
After the game (and diner at a rather nice restaurant we found near wembley stadium) I drove straight to the cottage, it was something I had to do and made not taking public transport seem a good idea (which it wasn't). I just had to go there and was pleased there were at least 8 other in a state of dubious sobriety.
I think the chairman's message was the equivalent of me driving to the ground, something he felt he had to do.
Nice to be remembered by a few people on here. not sure I like my new AKA, may yet change it to something more pithy.
Quote from: Statto on June 20, 2018, 11:53:12 AM
Quote from: Lighthouse on June 20, 2018, 11:05:34 AM
My mistake, when I read it was just a postcard and had nothing in it and no content I took that to be a complaint by those making such statements. I now realise they were not complaining just wanting to show how unimpressed they all were. 092.gif
Very cutting.
However if I came on here and said Jokanovic is the best manager in the world you would be the first to say steady on. Then if I said shut up, why are you always so critical, you'd get your knickers in a proper twist and tell me you're entitled to express a more moderate view
Good grief. Not content with voicing your own opinion. You are now making up entire posts imagining what other people say in reaction to posts that you haven't made. :doh:
I tell you what this thread and the transfer thread are right up there with day time tv, what a waste of energy 064.gif
Quote from: nose returns on June 20, 2018, 03:59:57 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 11:57:12 AM
Quote from: nose returns on June 20, 2018, 11:54:02 AM
I am amazed. I am usually the critical one but it seems to me this was genuinely a very nice personal message. Just saying he is one of us and enjoying the moment... i would have done the same. He doesn't need to say any more or less, i enjoyed his comments and am pleased he wrote them. In truth i was encouraged because it sounds like he is hooked!
Hi nose. Welcome back. I think it is you who has been hooked....
I have been hooked for years.... not sure I have recovered my previous cutting edge yet
getting to wembley and winning a massive one off game was a rare privilege I am still shell shocked.
After the game (and diner at a rather nice restaurant we found near wembley stadium) I drove straight to the cottage, it was something I had to do and made not taking public transport seem a good idea (which it wasn't). I just had to go there and was pleased there were at least 8 other in a state of dubious sobriety.
I think the chairman's message was the equivalent of me driving to the ground, something he felt he had to do.
Nice to be remembered by a few people on here. not sure I like my new AKA, may yet change it to something more pithy.
I was really sad when you 'left' because I really did feel I understood and empathised with your unstated reasons for doing so.
I do get the Khan love in and people trying to turn him into something he is not - a deeply passionate Fulham supporter through and through. I also understand why he wants to deepen that belief if he can do so. I believe it is called mirroring in psychology and is a way we, often unwisely, interact to gain approval in both directions, like apes socially scratch each others backs. The problem is it only has the potential to be skin deep (often in both directions) and the very people who are now deeply in love with the man will be first to turn against him when the time comes. I am pragmatic simply because I have met far too many skin deep people to care a hoot about or for any of them. My sentiments are far too deep to be so petty in changing my opinions about anyone. As an example I have strongly supported SJ the whole way through his tenure here because I see a real professional at work and that is getting rarer in football these days. Having deeper views means it takes a long while for me to develop belief and trust in people meaning I my mind doesn't change on a whim or fancy. I don't have trust and belief in Khan Senior although I do regard him more highly than his Son. There are things about the Khans that simply do not add up in my mind and until I am convinced otherwise they are simply the present custodians of a Club I fell in love with as a very young kid a very long time ago. To me the postcard doesn't say 'Wish you were here' it says 'Glad you are not here' i.e. it is excluding all those who don't get what I am trying to prove to you guys.....
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 08:14:41 PM
Quote from: nose returns on June 20, 2018, 03:59:57 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 11:57:12 AM
Quote from: nose returns on June 20, 2018, 11:54:02 AM
I am amazed. I am usually the critical one but it seems to me this was genuinely a very nice personal message. Just saying he is one of us and enjoying the moment... i would have done the same. He doesn't need to say any more or less, i enjoyed his comments and am pleased he wrote them. In truth i was encouraged because it sounds like he is hooked!
Hi nose. Welcome back. I think it is you who has been hooked....
I have been hooked for years.... not sure I have recovered my previous cutting edge yet
getting to wembley and winning a massive one off game was a rare privilege I am still shell shocked.
After the game (and diner at a rather nice restaurant we found near wembley stadium) I drove straight to the cottage, it was something I had to do and made not taking public transport seem a good idea (which it wasn't). I just had to go there and was pleased there were at least 8 other in a state of dubious sobriety.
I think the chairman's message was the equivalent of me driving to the ground, something he felt he had to do.
Nice to be remembered by a few people on here. not sure I like my new AKA, may yet change it to something more pithy.
I was really sad when you 'left' because I really did feel I understood and empathised with your unstated reasons for doing so.
I do get the Khan love in and people trying to turn him into something he is not - a deeply passionate Fulham supporter through and through. I also understand why he wants to deepen that belief if he can do so. I believe it is called mirroring in psychology and is a way we, often unwisely, interact to gain approval in both directions, like apes socially scratch each others backs. The problem is it only has the potential to be skin deep (often in both directions) and the very people who are now deeply in love with the man will be first to turn against him when the time comes. I am pragmatic simply because I have met far too many skin deep people to care a hoot about or for any of them. My sentiments are far too deep to be so petty in changing my opinions about anyone. As an example I have strongly supported SJ the whole way through his tenure here because I see a real professional at work and that is getting rarer in football these days. Having deeper views means it takes a long while for me to develop belief and trust in people meaning I my mind doesn't change on a whim or fancy. I don't have trust and belief in Khan Senior although I do regard him more highly than his Son. There are things about the Khans that simply do not add up in my mind and until I am convinced otherwise they are simply the present custodians of a Club I fell in love with as a very young kid a very long time ago. To me the postcard doesn't say 'Wish you were here' it says 'Glad you are not here' i.e. it is excluding all those who don't get what I am trying to prove to you guys.....
Very forthright comments, would be interesting to know what things "simply do not add up" I think I would hate to be a friend of yours having to prove myself every day to gain a morsel of trust
Yes, the Khans are primarily businessmen, and that is the main reason for buying the club, but they are also human-beings, and I can easily see how they could actually become fans, and take immense pleasure and satisfaction in our success.
How great must it be to have a business project in a foreign country, in traditional club in a sport integral to that country's culture, that you have invested time and money in, with a family member actually very much involved, to achieve success as Fulham did last season, and to know that you played a major part in this.
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 08:14:41 PM
Quote from: nose returns on June 20, 2018, 03:59:57 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 11:57:12 AM
Quote from: nose returns on June 20, 2018, 11:54:02 AM
I am amazed. I am usually the critical one but it seems to me this was genuinely a very nice personal message. Just saying he is one of us and enjoying the moment... i would have done the same. He doesn't need to say any more or less, i enjoyed his comments and am pleased he wrote them. In truth i was encouraged because it sounds like he is hooked!
Hi nose. Welcome back. I think it is you who has been hooked....
I have been hooked for years.... not sure I have recovered my previous cutting edge yet
getting to wembley and winning a massive one off game was a rare privilege I am still shell shocked.
After the game (and diner at a rather nice restaurant we found near wembley stadium) I drove straight to the cottage, it was something I had to do and made not taking public transport seem a good idea (which it wasn't). I just had to go there and was pleased there were at least 8 other in a state of dubious sobriety.
I think the chairman's message was the equivalent of me driving to the ground, something he felt he had to do.
Nice to be remembered by a few people on here. not sure I like my new AKA, may yet change it to something more pithy.
I was really sad when you 'left' because I really did feel I understood and empathised with your unstated reasons for doing so.
I do get the Khan love in and people trying to turn him into something he is not - a deeply passionate Fulham supporter through and through. I also understand why he wants to deepen that belief if he can do so. I believe it is called mirroring in psychology and is a way we, often unwisely, interact to gain approval in both directions, like apes socially scratch each others backs. The problem is it only has the potential to be skin deep (often in both directions) and the very people who are now deeply in love with the man will be first to turn against him when the time comes. I am pragmatic simply because I have met far too many skin deep people to care a hoot about or for any of them. My sentiments are far too deep to be so petty in changing my opinions about anyone. As an example I have strongly supported SJ the whole way through his tenure here because I see a real professional at work and that is getting rarer in football these days. Having deeper views means it takes a long while for me to develop belief and trust in people meaning I my mind doesn't change on a whim or fancy. I don't have trust and belief in Khan Senior although I do regard him more highly than his Son. There are things about the Khans that simply do not add up in my mind and until I am convinced otherwise they are simply the present custodians of a Club I fell in love with as a very young kid a very long time ago. To me the postcard doesn't say 'Wish you were here' it says 'Glad you are not here' i.e. it is excluding all those who don't get what I am trying to prove to you guys.....
Welcome back Nose. Good to have you back - spreading the love.
Quote from: The Old Count on June 22, 2018, 10:30:09 AM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 08:14:41 PM
Quote from: nose returns on June 20, 2018, 03:59:57 PM
Quote from: toshes mate on June 20, 2018, 11:57:12 AM
Quote from: nose returns on June 20, 2018, 11:54:02 AM
I am amazed. I am usually the critical one but it seems to me this was genuinely a very nice personal message. Just saying he is one of us and enjoying the moment... i would have done the same. He doesn't need to say any more or less, i enjoyed his comments and am pleased he wrote them. In truth i was encouraged because it sounds like he is hooked!
Hi nose. Welcome back. I think it is you who has been hooked....
I have been hooked for years.... not sure I have recovered my previous cutting edge yet
getting to wembley and winning a massive one off game was a rare privilege I am still shell shocked.
After the game (and diner at a rather nice restaurant we found near wembley stadium) I drove straight to the cottage, it was something I had to do and made not taking public transport seem a good idea (which it wasn't). I just had to go there and was pleased there were at least 8 other in a state of dubious sobriety.
I think the chairman's message was the equivalent of me driving to the ground, something he felt he had to do.
Nice to be remembered by a few people on here. not sure I like my new AKA, may yet change it to something more pithy.
I was really sad when you 'left' because I really did feel I understood and empathised with your unstated reasons for doing so.
I do get the Khan love in and people trying to turn him into something he is not - a deeply passionate Fulham supporter through and through. I also understand why he wants to deepen that belief if he can do so. I believe it is called mirroring in psychology and is a way we, often unwisely, interact to gain approval in both directions, like apes socially scratch each others backs. The problem is it only has the potential to be skin deep (often in both directions) and the very people who are now deeply in love with the man will be first to turn against him when the time comes. I am pragmatic simply because I have met far too many skin deep people to care a hoot about or for any of them. My sentiments are far too deep to be so petty in changing my opinions about anyone. As an example I have strongly supported SJ the whole way through his tenure here because I see a real professional at work and that is getting rarer in football these days. Having deeper views means it takes a long while for me to develop belief and trust in people meaning I my mind doesn't change on a whim or fancy. I don't have trust and belief in Khan Senior although I do regard him more highly than his Son. There are things about the Khans that simply do not add up in my mind and until I am convinced otherwise they are simply the present custodians of a Club I fell in love with as a very young kid a very long time ago. To me the postcard doesn't say 'Wish you were here' it says 'Glad you are not here' i.e. it is excluding all those who don't get what I am trying to prove to you guys.....
Welcome back Nose. Good to have you back - spreading the love.
thank you for the kind words. I think the win at wembley was a good catalyst for returning
Quote from: alfie on June 22, 2018, 09:56:34 AM
Very forthright comments, would be interesting to know what things "simply do not add up" I think I would hate to be a friend of yours having to prove myself every day to gain a morsel of trust
I have never had a friend who has charged me an admission fee on every visit.
