After the FFP thing QPR look to be in a bit of trouble. They are not sustainable at their present home and are now looking to develop the Linford Christie running track at the White City. So gone is that super stadium idea that was going to turn them into a big club. Most of their supporters are from the White City Estate so they are not going to be a very willing to drive anywhere or even take the bus, even if it happens. It makes me grateful for owners like The Khans who have put money into our club and before that Mo
Think all their plans went out the window when the mittels pulled out. Fernandez doesn't have the capitol to go it alone. Wouldn't surprise me if he was looking for a buyer either
Tony Fernandez has always struck me as being a bit of a clown. Well meaning, but totally clueless when it comes to running a football club. Lots of people on here justifiably criticised the Khans for lacking knowledge and making huge mistakes when they took over Fulham, but Fernandez is another league altogether!
Quote from: gezkc on August 13, 2018, 10:51:33 AM
Tony Fernandez has always struck me as being a bit of a clown. Well meaning, but totally clueless when it comes to running a football club. Lots of people on here justifiably criticised the Khans for lacking knowledge and making huge mistakes when they took over Fulham, but Fernandez is another league altogether!
Fernandez had an ulterior motive. He made no secrets about wanting a stadium to match the O2, and he saw QPR as a way of achieving that.
Fernández is not even the main shareholder any more.The main reason he and the Mittal got involved in the first place was the hope of getting the Land at old oak common and building a stadium along with loads of flats and houses.The one be problem they had they didn't own the land.Fernandez or Bungle as they call him has been an unmitigated disaster.Whoever own the shares now would have trouble giving them away they are owed 200 million plus in directors Loans.Not sure how much QPR the club itself owes.
Quote from: mrmicawbers on August 13, 2018, 10:58:44 AM
Fernández is not even the main shareholder any more.The main reason he and the Mittal got involved in the first place was the hope of getting the Land at old oak common and building a stadium along with loads of flats and houses.The one be problem they had they didn't own the land.Fernandez or Bungle as they call him has been an unmitigated disaster.Whoever own the shares now would have trouble giving them away they are owed 200 million plus in directors Loans.Not sure how much QPR the club itself owns.
yep was a bit disgusting what they tried to do to car giant
Quote from: Andy S on August 13, 2018, 10:36:08 AM
After the FFP thing QPR look to be in a bit of trouble. They are not sustainable at their present home and are now looking to develop the Linford Christie running track at the White City. So gone is that super stadium idea that was going to turn them into a big club. Most of their supporters are from the White City Estate so they are not going to be a very willing to drive anywhere or even take the bus, even if it happens. It makes me grateful for owners like The Khans who have put money into our club and before that Mo
Khans policy will only work if we stay up
Although they are local rivals I don't gloat at their predicament and hope they find a way out. There are 92 clubs in the 4 divisions that all have loyal supporters and we should remember how close failure was to us before Jimmy Hill stepped in.
They are a badly run club top to bottom,a few mates are supporters ,so I don't enjoy watching any club go down the pan.
Just had a quick look on there board. Some are even calling for the return of Holloway after two games. Seems McLaren is working his magic again 😂
They are going to sign 5 or 6 players on loan from Premier League clubs and finish mid table again, Reading though are a good bet for the drop,
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Kalas and Piazon ending up at QPR on loan,
Quote from: Andy S on August 13, 2018, 10:36:08 AM
After the FFP thing QPR look to be in a bit of trouble. They are not sustainable at their present home and are now looking to develop the Linford Christie running track at the White City. So gone is that super stadium idea that was going to turn them into a big club. Most of their supporters are from the White City Estate so they are not going to be a very willing to drive anywhere or even take the bus, even if it happens. It makes me grateful for owners like The Khans who have put money into our club and before that Mo
QPR fans are few and far between on White City Estate. Most of their fans come in from the M4 corridor.
Quote from: Riversider on August 13, 2018, 01:26:50 PM
They are going to sign 5 or 6 players on loan from Premier League clubs and finish mid table again, Reading though are a good bet for the drop,
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Kalas and Piazon ending up at QPR on loan,
ok I will bite.No chance what so ever.
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 13, 2018, 11:30:15 AM
Quote from: Andy S on August 13, 2018, 10:36:08 AM
After the FFP thing QPR look to be in a bit of trouble. They are not sustainable at their present home and are now looking to develop the Linford Christie running track at the White City. So gone is that super stadium idea that was going to turn them into a big club. Most of their supporters are from the White City Estate so they are not going to be a very willing to drive anywhere or even take the bus, even if it happens. It makes me grateful for owners like The Khans who have put money into our club and before that Mo
Khans policy will only work if we stay up
and its the right policy isn't it?
Quote from: MJG on August 13, 2018, 03:39:04 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 13, 2018, 11:30:15 AM
Quote from: Andy S on August 13, 2018, 10:36:08 AM
After the FFP thing QPR look to be in a bit of trouble. They are not sustainable at their present home and are now looking to develop the Linford Christie running track at the White City. So gone is that super stadium idea that was going to turn them into a big club. Most of their supporters are from the White City Estate so they are not going to be a very willing to drive anywhere or even take the bus, even if it happens. It makes me grateful for owners like The Khans who have put money into our club and before that Mo
Khans policy will only work if we stay up
and its the right policy isn't it?
it's a policy I've always prefered. Pay the money, to get good young talent, who will have a sell on value.whats not to like
Quote from: gang on August 13, 2018, 11:32:05 AM
Although they are local rivals I don't gloat at their predicament and hope they find a way out. There are 92 clubs in the 4 divisions that all have loyal supporters and we should remember how close failure was to us before Jimmy Hill stepped in.
Well said.
Quote from: gang on August 13, 2018, 11:32:05 AM
Although they are local rivals I don't gloat at their predicament and hope they find a way out. There are 92 clubs in the 4 divisions that all have loyal supporters and we should remember how close failure was to us before Jimmy Hill stepped in.
My brother in law used to be the head of the Celtic supporters club. He cannot get through a few sentences with me without getting onto his beloved subject. He gloated like mad when Rangers were relegated to the bottom division...that was not good enough for them. However, when they returned to the Scottish Premier, he was pleased. There is no point in having a rivalry, if you cannot have an occasional match.
Who does not like singing...Queens Park Rangers it's happening again.
I don't see how the Khans can lose as if we were to go down you sell all the players you can and bring in loans and go again. Why aren't more clubs trying it?
Never want to see a club fail. It would be heartbreaking for the loyal supporters of any team to go through it. I remember how i felt when we were seemingly on the verge and were saved by JH.
I was talking with a qpr fan who was with one of his Fulham mates Sat night after our match and he just flat out said they are going down 100%. No chance in staying up. He's given up already and it's August!
Quote from: Riversider on August 13, 2018, 01:26:50 PM
They are going to sign 5 or 6 players on loan from Premier League clubs and finish mid table again, Reading though are a good bet for the drop,
I wouldn't be at all surprised to see Kalas and Piazon ending up at QPR on loan,
I don't think they could afford their wages.
Well I think it's been known for a while that loftus road does not have a future but doesn't sound like there is an immediate threat, rather that the oak common idea is dead so they are looking elsewhere.
Football wise I heard they were ok on Saturday until the equaliser. They have added only a couple of players to last seasons squad and lost their GK (probably their best player). Whilst the younger players finally get a chance, it will be close on staying up.
It wasn't just jimmy Hill who saved us it was the muddymen family as well. As for QPR I hope they survive. May be a ground share with Brentford
Quote from: Andy S on August 14, 2018, 01:28:20 AM
It wasn't just jimmy Hill who saved us it was the muddymen family as well. As for QPR I hope they survive. May be a ground share with Brentford
The groundwater with The B's is a good shout Andy.
Quote from: Jims Dentist on August 16, 2018, 05:45:15 PM
Quote from: Andy S on August 14, 2018, 01:28:20 AM
It wasn't just jimmy Hill who saved us it was the muddymen family as well. As for QPR I hope they survive. May be a ground share with Brentford
The groundwater with The B's is a good shout Andy.
Bloody predictive text!!!
Did I dream it or has Fernandez stepped down.
Quote from: Marcel_Gecov on August 16, 2018, 05:55:13 PM
Did I dream it or has Fernandez stepped down.
Yes, I think the Amits are back in the fold to try & sort out the mess Big Tony created. I wonder if they'll apply for more planning permission on land they don't own or have an option to buy?
Quote from: The Rock on August 13, 2018, 07:26:41 PM
I was talking with a qpr fan who was with one of his Fulham mates Sat night after our match and he just flat out said they are going down 100%. No chance in staying up. He's given up already and it's August!
I was chatting with one of my QPR supporting mates the other day and he said pretty much exactly this.
Thought they might stand a chance with Holloway but doesn't see any light at the end of the tunnel with old Stevie M in charge.
Quote from: MJG on August 13, 2018, 03:39:04 PM
Quote from: Slaphead in Qatar on August 13, 2018, 11:30:15 AM
Quote from: Andy S on August 13, 2018, 10:36:08 AM
After the FFP thing QPR look to be in a bit of trouble. They are not sustainable at their present home and are now looking to develop the Linford Christie running track at the White City. So gone is that super stadium idea that was going to turn them into a big club. Most of their supporters are from the White City Estate so they are not going to be a very willing to drive anywhere or even take the bus, even if it happens. It makes me grateful for owners like The Khans who have put money into our club and before that Mo
Khans policy will only work if we stay up
and its the right policy isn't it?
Of course it is.
I think in a way it was all seater stadiums that caused clubs to move as they could no longer fit everyone in who wanted to watch. I think safe standing areas are the way forward although not for me
Quote from: Andy S on August 17, 2018, 12:37:21 AM
I think in a way it was all seater stadiums that caused clubs to move as they could no longer fit everyone in who wanted to watch. I think safe standing areas are the way forward although not for me
safe standing areas take up as much space as seated areas do they not?
I lived in South Kensington from 1990-1992 as an expat. QPR was in the old first division and I could take the bus (#72?) from my flat to the ground without having to change so I started following them. Les Ferdinand played for them then and it was amazing how often he was flagged for being offside! It was a lousy ground and a lousy team, but I didn't know any better then and really enjoyed going there.
Wonder who'll be sacked first, McClaren or Lampard?
Quote from: SP on August 18, 2018, 04:28:55 PM
Wonder who'll be sacked first, McClaren or Lampard?
Judging by today's result I should say McCaren. 7-1, cheered me up no end.
And that link kit!!👗
Quote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2018, 05:03:15 PM
Quote from: Andy S on August 17, 2018, 12:37:21 AM
I think in a way it was all seater stadiums that caused clubs to move as they could no longer fit everyone in who wanted to watch. I think safe standing areas are the way forward although not for me
safe standing areas take up as much space as seated areas do they not?
If the standing area in the Hamburg final is anything to by, it takes up more space.
Quote from: Steven Ageroad on August 19, 2018, 06:08:37 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 17, 2018, 05:03:15 PM
Quote from: Andy S on August 17, 2018, 12:37:21 AM
I think in a way it was all seater stadiums that caused clubs to move as they could no longer fit everyone in who wanted to watch. I think safe standing areas are the way forward although not for me
safe standing areas take up as much space as seated areas do they not?
If the standing area in the Hamburg final is anything to by, it takes up more space.
The designs I have seen have identical space for seats or safe standing; indeed some of the designs are convertible. One thing is for sure, safe standing does not increase capacity.
So far as QPR are concerned, and although I don't have a lot of love for them, I do hope the Club survives one way or another.
Totally agree but there was no such thing until recently. The old Craven Cottagerecord attendance was 55,000 not many standing. Only the main stand now Johnny Haynes behind the enclosure was seated I still do not understand the facination with standing it does nothing for me. Yesterday at Wembley I had this guy who was probably 6'3" tall every time the ball came down our end he shot up. I actually missed Mitro's goal. Why did he have to stand? He didn't people should be more considerate. It's not just at Wembley. At our home ground Craven Cottage my grand children are forever being blocked out by people wanting to stand.
Quote from: Andy S on August 19, 2018, 11:30:44 PM
Totally agree but there was no such thing until recently. The old Craven Cottagerecord attendance was 55,000 not many standing. Only the main stand now Johnny Haynes behind the enclosure was seated I still do not understand the facination with standing it does nothing for me. Yesterday at Wembley I had this guy who was probably 6'3" tall every time the ball came down our end he shot up. I actually missed Mitro's goal. Why did he have to stand? He didn't people should be more considerate. It's not just at Wembley. At our home ground Craven Cottage my grand children are forever being blocked out by people wanting to stand.
49,335 v Millwall, 1938
Quote from: Jem on August 18, 2018, 06:09:48 PM
Quote from: SP on August 18, 2018, 04:28:55 PM
Wonder who'll be sacked first, McClaren or Lampard?
Judging by today's result I should say McCaren. 7-1, cheered me up no end.
Pelligrinni may just beat them to it.
McClown will be gone by xmas.
lol
QPR fans I know thought Holloway was doing ok.
Will he last that long?
Push the red button on Sky Sports & see tonight's QPR v Bristol City match live for free. And, don't worry, it's completely anonymous, you wont have to speak to an operator & they won't show this interest in QPR on your SKY account. Enjoy!
I don't want to start another thread on QPR so I'll post it here......I've no bad feelings towards them unlike some on here but WOW they really are a club in trouble, they look absolutely awful
I thought the 7-1 last week a one off but judging on tonight I think there'll be double figure scores.
Over a thousand Bristol City fans there tonight, an excellent turn out for a midweek fixture.
Not so much "The Wally with the Brolly" more like "The Man with a P45 in the post"
They look really like a club in free fall, feel sorry for friends who support them but not for those who cussed the backside out of me through the nineties. I suppose normal service has resumed for the oldies when qpr were third div south and we had our spell in the early sixties in the first div. Its all relative though, depending on your age.
Things must be bad for QPR as I am actually feeling sorry for them.
Quote from: F(f)CUK on August 21, 2018, 09:52:00 PM
Things must be bad for QPR as I am actually feeling sorry for them.
I did too but soon got over it! :005:
Absolute mess.
11,700 there tonight and 1000+ from Bristol (including one joe bryan). Approaching Brentford standards.
To be honest I feel for their fans. Who would like to see their team be so mismanaged that they end up like this? It's not McClaren's fault either, he has had their best players sold from under him and nobody bought in. They should have stuck with Ollie as at least he was making progress with the youth he had left.
Quote from: KJS on August 21, 2018, 09:43:29 PM
Not so much "The Wally with the Brolly" more like "The Man with a P45 in the post"
The Manic on the Titanic
Have a few mates who are die hard rangers. I feel for them. Abject ownership and the king clown Fernandes (well meaning no doubt) is still involved. He's stinking the place out and until he's gone they won't turn a corner.
Quote from: One James stannard on August 21, 2018, 09:12:29 PM
I don't want to start another thread on QPR so I'll post it here......I've no bad feelings towards them unlike some on here but WOW they really are a club in trouble, they look absolutely awful
Agree, don't hate them like others but not a fan either. Do feel bad for the fans and have to say/remind myself that we could of easily been in the same boat. Blessed to have the Khans.
Quote from: RoyTund on August 21, 2018, 10:18:30 PM
Absolute mess.
11,700 there tonight and 1000+ from Bristol (including one joe bryan). Approaching Brentford standards.
No where near that figure actually there as seasons tickets included according to a QPR pal
