Poll
Question:
Who will win this weekend?
Option 1: Fulham
votes: 24
Option 2: Draw
votes: 14
Option 3: Arsenal
votes: 58
What does everyone think the final score will be?
I am going 2-2 or 1-3 for this.
I think we will win. I think 2-1 to us
1-3
1-1. Arsenal tired after the trip to Qarabaq. They are overconfident after 6 consecutive wins and we have TC back. Now just hope that Christie finds his cross finally ... and hear Tim Ream's name again when he touches the ball, oh boy I missed that !
1-2 to Arsenal with 2 swift counters that utterly out class our back four us either side of HT.
Fulham 1
Arsenal 4
Without Arsenal not even breaking sweat.
(And this is a very poor Arsenal side compated to the great Arsenal sides of the past )
Would settle for a draw 1-1
1-3 :012: arsenal is a good team with Emery
I am hoping against hope we can win 2-1
COYW COYW
1-0
1-2 or 1-3 to Arsenal unfortunately. We'll attack, we'll score, but can't see us keeping them out.
If we play our ponderous passing at the back game they will win 4 nil.
If we park the bus and punt up field to Mitro and AK47 ... we may get something.
Providing we can increase our tempo and quicken our passing movements, we are more than capable of achieving at least a draw, maybe even win on the day.
Providing we can score first, that is key.
The first 20 mins will be so important, but we have to keep our concentration, especially in the last 10 minutes of each half.
What also will be a crucial selection, is our starting line up.
We have both our first choice fullbacks out.
The rest of our defence is a shambles.
I fear another bumming coming our way.
1-4
Hope I'm wrong....COYW
Sorry but I can se us getting a hammering. 0-5
We still need a bit more time, 1-2 defeat I think
With a rigid and effective defense, FFC control the assaults of the Arse for a 1 nil victory.
....and unicorns will perform at halftime.
If we think about it. Ok both full backs out, so maybe Jok will try something or start a player he may not have done. But it at times like this that coaches and managers will have to think very deeply for long periods of time to see how we as a team can compete against the likes of Arsenal.
So on that basis surely we have to have a lot of traffic in midfield. Not necessary the most technical players, but the most competitive with strong and huge work rates.
At the end of the day it's 11 v 11 but with one important ingredient, it's over 90 plus minutes.
This is where set pieces come Into the equation, as well as making Arsenal feel as though they are playing against 12 or more players, by putting pressure on the ball.
Sow seeds of doubt in the Arsenal players mind.
Whilst we have Mitro on the pitch we will always stand a chance, but he will need support from players with desire.
I expect we will need to score at least one goal to get a result of one kind or another, a scrapy ugly own goal by an Arsenal player will do me, if it gets us at least a point.
There is always the unexpected, which is where managers and coaches earn their salary.
Not confident I'm afraid especially if we give them an early goal. Pretty sure the ref will give them a soft penalty to help them on their way.
1-3 Arsenal. We have a good half but we're just not at the level yet.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 03, 2018, 08:33:08 PM
If we think about it. Ok both full backs out, so maybe Jok will try something or start a player he may not have done. But it at times like this that coaches and managers will have to think very deeply for long periods of time to see how we as a team can compete against the likes of Arsenal.
So on that basis surely we have to have a lot of traffic in midfield. Not necessary the most technical players, but the most competitive with strong and huge work rates.
At the end of the day it's 11 v 11 but with one important ingredient, it's over 90 plus minutes.
This is where set pieces come Into the equation, as well as making Arsenal feel as though they are playing against 12 or more players, by putting pressure on the ball.
Sow seeds of doubt in the Arsenal players mind.
Whilst we have Mitro on the pitch we will always stand a chance, but he will need support from players with desire.
I expect we will need to score at least one goal to get a result of one kind or another, a scrapy ugly own goal by an Arsenal player will do me, if it gets us at least a point.
There is always the unexpected, which is where managers and coaches earn their salary.
I am not sure where these seeds will come from and I'm not worried about our current back four in that it can't get much worse. Ream, Odoi, Sess, and Christie with MLM available are better than the Mawson and Chambers clown show.
I wouldn't be surprised if Mawson and Chambers proved their worth in 2 months time when ready. But a 4-3-3 that operates as a 4–5-1 most of the time might take on a bit less risk, while still carrying our attacking style.
I actually think it's going to click in the next 4-5 games.
2-1 fulham
fluke win
Quote from: Robbie on October 03, 2018, 06:41:43 PM
If we play our ponderous passing at the back game they will win 4 nil.
If we park the bus and punt up field to Mitro and AK47 ... we may get something.
Jocanovic will never agree with you, he will again change the players but continue with the tactics that all of our opponents are enjoying. Arsenal will have a field day.
Quote from: filham on October 04, 2018, 04:54:02 PM
Quote from: Robbie on October 03, 2018, 06:41:43 PM
If we play our ponderous passing at the back game they will win 4 nil.
If we park the bus and punt up field to Mitro and AK47 ... we may get something.
Jocanovic will never agree with you, he will again change the players but continue with the tactics that all of our opponents are enjoying. Arsenal will have a field day.
You don't have a very high opinion of the manager do you ? Who would you like to see in charge ? I am intrigued to know what would make you happy and float your boat?
Quote from: HV71 on October 04, 2018, 09:45:58 PM
Quote from: filham on October 04, 2018, 04:54:02 PM
Quote from: Robbie on October 03, 2018, 06:41:43 PM
If we play our ponderous passing at the back game they will win 4 nil.
If we park the bus and punt up field to Mitro and AK47 ... we may get something.
Jocanovic will never agree with you, he will again change the players but continue with the tactics that all of our opponents are enjoying. Arsenal will have a field day.
You don't have a very high opinion of the manager do you ? Who would you like to see in charge ? I am intrigued to know what would make you happy and float your boat?
Steve Bruce with John Terry as captain- big punt up towards Mitro, put it in the mixer:)
It's time, time for us to step up a few gears & gain our second home win @ CC this season
No matter it's Arsenal that's irrelevant, something has to give soon so let's do it against them
COYW, believe & deliver !!
1-3 to Arsenal
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We may get a draw but the smart money has to be on Arsenal. Think they've won their last 8 in all competitions.
If we can find a way of keeping the likes of Arsenal at bay without making too many basic mistakes, and break up play, and hold our own at set pieces. As well as play at our tempo not Arsenal's, then we may salvage a draw. A win at this stage I imagine may be too much to ask.
That first 20 minutes will be crucial, concentration has to be faultless.
The first 90 minutes is the most important.
Can we keep a clean sheet ? I doubt it, so to stand any chance of a result, we have to score first.
One things for sure, we have to have two good halves.
A bad first half, and it could be a long afternoon.
A bad second half and all the good work in the first half has been unnecessary wasted.
Two bad half's and the players confidence could be shot, and an even far worse goal difference than we already currently have.
So what hope is there, well there is no pressure, all and sundry are expecting Arsenal to win.
Well their Achilles heal under Wenger was that they were very fragile when bullied.
Under the new manager their mentality has yet to be tested.
Fulhams mentality will be tested.
Slavisa will not want to be humiliated, he is a very very proud man. So I can only imagine he will give the players the team talk of the year.
If we lose, it will not be the end of the world, but it may feel like it.
But Monday morning we will all wake up, and the sun will still be shining, and we move on to the next challenge.
Not one step back.
A thought for the day,
"Would our current back 4 be good enough to get us promoted from The Championship ? "
If the answer turns out to be NO, then what the heck is it doing in The Premier League taking on the likes of Arsenal and Man City ?
Quote from: SP on October 03, 2018, 09:28:44 PM
Not confident I'm afraid especially if we give them an early goal. Pretty sure the ref will give them a soft penalty to help them on their way.
Normally standard procedure in matches of this nature, is that the referee will very kindly hand a soft penalty to the so called big clubs.
Because that's what referees do.
Quote from: Riversider on October 05, 2018, 11:30:27 AM
A thought for the day,
"Would our current back 4 be good enough to get us promoted from The Championship ? "
If the answer turns out to be NO, then what the heck is it doing in The Premier League taking on the likes of Arsenal and Man City ?
One small problem in answering your reasonable question is....i am not quite sure what our current back four are.
I have never predicted a Fulham defeat in my life & don´t intend to start now. A 2-2 draw for me.
3-3 draw!
Quote from: Riversider on October 05, 2018, 11:30:27 AM
A thought for the day,
"Would our current back 4 be good enough to get us promoted from The Championship ? "
If the answer turns out to be NO, then what the heck is it doing in The Premier League taking on the likes of Arsenal and Man City ?
Ream : Yes
Bryan : yes
Odoi : yes
TFM : Yes
Mawson : Yes
M L M : Maybe
Christie : No
Chambers : No
Two things going in our favour:
They were distinctively average against Watford last weekend, and fortunate to come away with the points.
A blank sheet is well overdue.
So I'll go for a highly improbable 0-0, whilst recognizing that it is more likely to be 0-3 :dft011:
Quote from: St Eve on October 03, 2018, 06:21:33 PM
1-0
Haven't you noticed , we aren't doing clean sheets this season.
Quote from: Berserker on October 04, 2018, 11:07:14 PM
1-3 to Arsenal
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I'm going with this. Don't see we have much of a chance as we will concede at least twice based on results to date
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 05, 2018, 11:52:22 AM
Quote from: Riversider on October 05, 2018, 11:30:27 AM
A thought for the day,
"Would our current back 4 be good enough to get us promoted from The Championship ? "
If the answer turns out to be NO, then what the heck is it doing in The Premier League taking on the likes of Arsenal and Man City ?
One small problem in answering your reasonable question is....i am not quite sure what our current back four are.
With Mensah and Bryan injured it becomes easier to select the back four:-
Right Back Christie
Left back Sess
Centre backs any two from Odoi, Chambers, Ream, La Merchand and Mawson.
All have been tried this season, there is no good understanding among any of them, Arsenal strikers will go to bed on Saturday night and dream of hat tricks against all of them.
Oh dear can someone post something positive to give us a little hope .
I prefer a flat back 4 but on Sunday is there a case for playing a central 3 of Odoi, Mawson and Ream, with Christie and Sees playing outside of them ?
2-0 to Arsenal 093.gif, can`t think why, probably do to the fact I`ve just taken my pain killers and happy tablet 092.gif
Quote from: filham on October 05, 2018, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 05, 2018, 11:52:22 AM
Quote from: Riversider on October 05, 2018, 11:30:27 AM
A thought for the day,
"Would our current back 4 be good enough to get us promoted from The Championship ? "
If the answer turns out to be NO, then what the heck is it doing in The Premier League taking on the likes of Arsenal and Man City ?
One small problem in answering your reasonable question is....i am not quite sure what our current back four are.
With Mensah and Bryan injured it becomes easier to select the back four:-
Right Back Christie
Left back Sess
Centre backs any two from Odoi, Chambers, Ream, La Merchand and Mawson.
All have been tried this season, there is no good understanding among any of them, Arsenal strikers will go to bed on Saturday night and dream of hat tricks against all of them.
Oh dear can someone post something positive to give us a little hope .
best positive i can come up with is that chambers won't be eligible to play against his parent club
5 1 arsenal. Will be 3 down inside 30. And hopefully they will ease up on us
If you are not sure this will not make you feel better:
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2018/oct/05/unai-emery-arsenal-quiet-revolution-premier-league?utm_source=esp&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Fiver+2016&utm_term=287168&subid=2016132&CMP=EMCFTBEML853
Basically relentless training, lots of tactical preparation and detailed video analysis of the opposition..
the only positive about the defensive bingo is that he will have 7 different videos on our defense so maybe that get bored and fall asleep watching...
Quote from: fulhamben on October 05, 2018, 06:03:41 PM
Quote from: filham on October 05, 2018, 04:07:47 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 05, 2018, 11:52:22 AM
Quote from: Riversider on October 05, 2018, 11:30:27 AM
A thought for the day,
"Would our current back 4 be good enough to get us promoted from The Championship ? "
If the answer turns out to be NO, then what the heck is it doing in The Premier League taking on the likes of Arsenal and Man City ?
One small problem in answering your reasonable question is....i am not quite sure what our current back four are.
With Mensah and Bryan injured it becomes easier to select the back four:-
Right Back Christie
Left back Sess
Centre backs any two from Odoi, Chambers, Ream, La Merchand and Mawson.
All have been tried this season, there is no good understanding among any of them, Arsenal strikers will go to bed on Saturday night and dream of hat tricks against all of them.
Oh dear can someone post something positive to give us a little hope .
best positive i can come up with is that chambers won't be eligible to play against his parent club
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They're on a good run atm and we're not. I think we're been unlucky not to have a settled back four. Mainly due to injury and tomorrow isnt going to be a happy one for us. So I'm going for a 4-2 win to us. Just to keep my spirits up till tomorrow afternoon :)
2-1 Fulham
It is a home game. We will always have a chance at home.
1-0
Park the bus and long ball.
Of course, we have a chance, but we probably need some luck for a change, the run of the green, some decisions going in our favour.
But I don't see us parking the bus, that's just not the manager's style, and probably counter-productive anyway.
I think Slav will go for a home win, hitting them on the break.
Let's hope for the best.
COYW!!!!
You know for the last two seasons our strength has been our mid field trio of Cairney, MacDonald and Johanson, we seem to have lost that midfield advantage advantage this season.
We are all grumbling about our defence but a little midfield dominance tomorrow would not go amiss, we need:-
Cairney fit
Seri on his best form, he can be brilliant
.
Anguisa to show us how good he is, so far he has not lived up to his reputation.
I would be quite happy conceding a couple more goals if we can create chances and score three.
2-1 049:gif
Quote from: RaySmith on October 06, 2018, 05:27:07 AM
Of course, we have a chance, but we probably need some luck for a change, the run of the green, some decisions going in our favour.
But I don't see us parking the bus, that's just not the manager's style, and probably counter-productive anyway.
I think Slav will go for a home win, hitting them on the break.
Let's hope for the best.
COYW!!!!
have you seen our defence, it would be more akin to parking a clowns car than it would a bus.
Quote from: skoczk00 on October 06, 2018, 10:24:15 AM
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First post and a confident prediction, hopefully the words will come with the second post and say "I told you so "
Quote from: filham on October 06, 2018, 10:37:47 AM
Quote from: skoczk00 on October 06, 2018, 10:24:15 AM
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First post and a confident prediction, hopefully the words will come with the second post and say "I told you so "
let's hope so, although don't think me nerves could handle such a small margin of victory
2-2 draw or a sneaky 2-1 to teh mighty whites 049:gif
It's 11 v 11 providing the referee does not award the usual procedure of a soft penalty to Arsenal.
We stand more that a chance of a result providing we do not self destruct by making unforced errors.
The defence has to be shielded by the players further forward when we lose the ball, this will be no picnic.
But we have to, and it's imperative we start off on the right foot at our tempo not there's.
We cannot afford to show respect, we must make them respect us.
They have their own Achilles heals.
A lot may depend on our starting line up, we may need that extra defender.
It's at home, and that will most definitely favour us, Arsenal are never comfortable in environments like Fulham.
But it will take more than that to beat them.
We have to run further, and longer and quicker than them for the duration of the game.
No more bad halves.
We have to win our battles all over the pitch.
If they score first, and early on, it will show exactly how much we can punch our weight, it will test our resolve and spirit, desire, appetite and hunger.
Whatever occurs tomorrow, I hope every Fulham player comes off the pitch looking as though he has put in a decent shift, and given his all, every Fulham player must bust a gut for the Manager, nothing less is acceptable, even in glorious defeat, and it may tell us the players who have the courage to fight their way through adversity, and the ones whose hearts are not in it, and are fair weather players.
1/Joka clearly doesn't know how to solve the problem of our defence I think it is time for him to move on.
2/ We played well and were a little unlucky and still need time to find the right solution
3/ Arsenal are one of the most established sides did anybody think we would have a chance?
4/ Blimey nobody really expected us to play so well and get a result. Well done the mighty Whites.
Please delete wrong predictions to leave the right prediction after the game
5/ I knew you could do it Fulham, never doubted the team for a second, it just goes to show what you can achieve with total commitment and workrate and belief in your ability.
Thank you for a glorious victory of epic proportions.
Drinks are on the house.
I agree that Arsenal is not the same Arsenal of the past half dozen years or so, BUT, I fear a drubbing this weekend. Cottagers defense has shown no signs of improvement or capability. Really disappointed in the Everton result, fully expected a much better outcome. I hope to heck I'm wrong, but it could be ugly Sunday morn.
Sooner or later Joka will get the defence right, he's simply too good a coach to fail. I will go for a 1-1 draw and signs that he is making progress in developing a slightly more settled starting eleven.
Quote from: RaySmith on October 06, 2018, 05:27:07 AM
Of course, we have a chance, but we probably need some luck for a change, the run of the green, some decisions going in our favour.
But I don't see us parking the bus, that's just not the manager's style, and probably counter-productive anyway.
I think Slav will go for a home win, hitting them on the break.
Let's hope for the best.
COYW!!!!
I meant that as a tongue in cheek.... forgotten the smiley face, haha
Although, the point I want to put across is that Fulham have to quickly learn more tactics.
You simply cannot stick to a certain style with each and every top teams.
It might work for us in the Championship because the gap between them is mostly negligible in the lower league.
Still feeling good about my 1-0 prediction
Quote from: St Eve on October 07, 2018, 03:38:06 AM
Still feeling good about my 1-0 prediction
Good for you, I hope upon hope that you can come on here in a few hours time like the cat that got the cream and tell all of us that doubted Fulham today how wrong we all were ,
Would love nothing better.
with both teams defences showing a lack of desire to stop the opposition, wecould have any score at all, it may be just who makes less howlers and which teams midfield decide to work hard.
If we score first anything can happen, but 1-2 to the Arse I fear.....
COYW!
1-0 to Fulham. Win and clean sheet!
Quote from: fulhamben on October 05, 2018, 06:04:34 PM
5 1 arsenal. Will be 3 down inside 30. And hopefully they will ease up on us
do I win a prize.
I was nearly right. I said we would lose 0-5.
Quote from: fulhamben on October 07, 2018, 02:14:17 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on October 05, 2018, 06:04:34 PM
5 1 arsenal. Will be 3 down inside 30. And hopefully they will ease up on us
do I win a prize.
Unfortunately no cigar, I feel you mislead us by saying that Arsenal would ease up.
So your disqualified I am afraid.
Quote from: The Swan on October 07, 2018, 07:40:24 PM
I was nearly right. I said we would lose 0-5.
You came close, but you underestimated Fulham, because you failed to mention that Fulham would score. Which is an enormous error of judgement, which actually could incur a standard fine.
Quote from: JoelH5 on October 07, 2018, 11:48:36 AM
1-0 to Fulham. Win and clean sheet!
You forecast Fulhams goal correctly but failed to mention the 5 that Arsenal decided to score at their leisure.
So I believe a full apology is required from you with immediate effect.
