A highly touted midfielder...who imo has been invisible most of the season. He's new to the system...but his lack of pace...lack of agressiveness...lack of size... can't be overcome by a couple of good through balls a game and the occassionally good corner kick.
Since his give away to City that resulted in a goal he hasn't looked like a premiere league player. He looks indecisive and timid.
He was the best of our midfield 3 today no doubt. The other two haven't impressed in a single game they've played IMO.
Quote from: @jolslover on October 20, 2018, 07:08:41 PM
He was the best of our midfield 3 today no doubt. The other two haven't impressed in a single game they've played IMO.
So not leading directly to an opposing goal is the low bar for the midfield now? Ayite was better than him, and Ayite was forgettable.
Apart from a wonder goal against Burnley he's been a mixed bag 4 me. Wondered what Barcelona potentially saw in him supposedly last year. Maybe 9 games in isn't long enough 2 judge him though. New country, new league etc.
Quote from: Buffalo76 on October 20, 2018, 08:42:08 PM
Apart from a wonder goal against Burnley he's been a mixed bag 4 me. Wondered what Barcelona potentially saw in him supposedly last year. Maybe 9 games in isn't long enough 2 judge him though. New country, new league etc.
He was brought in to play in the system and style we had last season when we were by far the best footballing team.
This season we have tried to play the same easy, difference is we are way in quality to be able to play the style we want to. Seri is on a different level to the rest of the midfield and you can see it when you watch him live some of his quick flicks and round the corner passes, granted some don't come off but some of that is don't to the guys in the team not thinking as one like we did last season.
Is he small, yes. Is he slow, not when I have seen him.
It is fae to early to write the guy off, he has the quality like many of the other members of the squad but it seems they are either not on the same wave length or not sticking to the plan and that opens up a whole different can of worms
99 posts and most of them slagging off one player.
Quote from: The Old Count on October 20, 2018, 08:53:41 PM
99 posts and most of them slagging off one player.
That is almost as good as my ratio of postings re Rui Fonte who now seems a cheap acquisition at the price! I will have to do an audit of my 8k + postings which I think will confirm that not one of them has been critical about Seri, until now that is! When I watch some of these 20m + continental players under perform and really don't seem suited to the PL, I wonder if the whole thing is a circus?? Taking Mitro out of the equation as we did need a striker as we didn't have anybody else, the other 75m has been spent on players who have so far made a pretty poor return on their investment and I am not sure how many of them I would keep at Fulham after the January window, at the moment Bryan would be the only 1 and he is injured, Fulhamish!!
Is there any way we can blame Craig Kline for this debacle.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 20, 2018, 09:43:43 PM
Is there any way we can blame Craig Kline for this debacle.
Not at all I answered that on another thread, don't you read all my posts these days (lol)?
First 4/5 games I was convinced he was one of the top 10 players ever to wear our shirt
Most of our new players, even Schurrle, are yet to play a good 90 mins IMO, but Seri is the exception. If he is playing crap it's clearly a morale issue rather than a lack of talent
Quote from: davew on October 20, 2018, 09:48:57 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 20, 2018, 09:43:43 PM
Is there any way we can blame Craig Kline for this debacle.
Not at all I answered that on another thread, don't you read all my posts these days (lol)?
Sorry, I must be slipping, after watching today's display, the last few hours have not been my finest.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 20, 2018, 10:10:08 PM
Quote from: davew on October 20, 2018, 09:48:57 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 20, 2018, 09:43:43 PM
Is there any way we can blame Craig Kline for this debacle.
Not at all I answered that on another thread, don't you read all my posts these days (lol)?
Sorry, I must be slipping, after watching today's display, the last few hours have not been my finest.
Nor mine!!
Quote from a publication after the Arsenal game.
"That said, he looks a different player without Tom Cairney beside him.
(https://www.football.london/fulham-fc/jean-michael-seri-scouting-report-15249138)
With the skipper injured, Seri is the man to get Fulham ticking along and to win the ball in a box-to-box midfield role, and I think he needs someone like Cairney next to him to bring out the best in him."
That was last game.
That was before he got subbed out of the game against the poorest (well, on form Fulham may be the poorest) EPL squad.
For the $$$ he's being paid I would have expected a box to box mid to own against a team like Cardiff. Instead, he was constantly overrun in the first half. I saw him play two really good through balls and he took a corner.
Slav made mistakes yesterday, yes...but Seri looked outclassed by the poorest side in the league. He was the least visible of our midfielders.
Yes, McDonald and Johannson were poor. They are championship level midfielders.
What's Seri's excuse?
And yes, he may very well play better when Cairney is back. So, the whites signed a midfield player that needs another player to make him shine?
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on October 21, 2018, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from a publication after the Arsenal game.
"That said, he looks a different player without Tom Cairney beside him.
(https://www.football.london/fulham-fc/jean-michael-seri-scouting-report-15249138)
With the skipper injured, Seri is the man to get Fulham ticking along and to win the ball in a box-to-box midfield role, and I think he needs someone like Cairney next to him to bring out the best in him."
That was last game.
That was before he got subbed out of the game against the poorest (well, on form Fulham may be the poorest) EPL squad.
For the $$$ he's being paid I would have expected a box to box mid to own against a team like Cardiff. Instead, he was constantly overrun in the first half. I saw him play two really good through balls and he took a corner.
Slav made mistakes yesterday, yes...but Seri looked outclassed by the poorest side in the league. He was the least visible of our midfielders.
Yes, McDonald and Johannson were poor. They are championship level midfielders.
What's Seri's excuse?
And yes, he may very well play better when Cairney is back. So, the whites signed a midfield player that needs another player to make him shine?
Not his fault
Que Seri Seri,
Whatever will be will be,
With or without Cairney,
I will still get my money!!
When you are forced to play the role of the creator, a role which he is not accustomed to, without additional support, you may look overrun.
In the early matches I thought Seri was a class act, he seems to have deteriorated slowly as the season has gone on. Maybe he needs Cairney with him but the I thought he was capable of taking an injured Cairney's place.
cairney always offers a get out pass to the team . it was the same last year , without him the system doesn't work . I thought Seri could take on that role as well but so far he seems more of a box to box player . When you watch his clips from france on youtube he has a lot of space and time to do all the flicks , not going to get that here and needs to adjust and do the flicks when the situation allows. But clearly the guy is a good player , good touch and great range of passing .
Coming across at the moment similar to a really good player playing in a rubbish sunday league team and trying to do too much and cover too much.
Still think hes contributing and was shocked he was subbed for Ayite because just a few minutes before he did a blindside cross field pass as good as any in the match.
Make no mistakes hes a quality player, but like any good player they dont look great in a stuggling team. Its no so much he needs Cairney, he just needs other to start playing as well.
Thoughts of dropping him are for me a big mistake.
Quote from: MJG on October 22, 2018, 11:17:05 AM
Coming across at the moment similar to a really good player playing in a rubbish sunday league team and trying to do too much and cover too much.
Still think hes contributing and was shocked he was subbed for Ayite because just a few minutes before he did a blindside cross field pass as good as any in the match.
Make no mistakes hes a quality player, but like any good player they dont look great in a stuggling team. Its no so much he needs Cairney, he just needs other to start playing as well.
Thoughts of dropping him are for me a big mistake.
I have to concur with this, especially the deliciously accurate first sentence with which SJ would likely have a good wry smile about.
Seri has, on many occasions, impressed me and not just the obvious moments. He has found it just as hard as anybody else would to fit into a system that grates rather than smoothly engages. I'd prefer to judge us when we really come together according to the plan. It'll happen overnight sometime just as it has done in the past two seasons. No real reason for it to happen apart from little things like young Sess opening his account for the season. You never know the button that makes it work until you press it either by design or chance.
seri is a very good player but he has come to a team that is not as good as he was led to believe and it has become a morale problem plus to a certain extent an attitude problem.
He is capable of playing in far better teams than Fulham and I cannot see him being with us for very long.
Fulham have brought in assets on the field and with rising prices several could eventually be sold for a higher price than we paid for them and Seri may be one of the first that we will cash in on.
The Khans have been shrewder with their spending than they have been given credit for but that will only help their money rather than ourPremiership status.
I really like this player, very good passer and most games he has been our best midfielder in my opinion. He's been unlucky that TC has been injured, and to give Seri some credit; its hard to play well with Stef and kmac on your side. Especially kmac has been so disappointing, too slow and can't pressure at all because of his lacking pace.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on October 20, 2018, 06:44:56 PM
A highly touted midfielder...who imo has been invisible most of the season. He's new to the system...but his lack of pace...lack of agressiveness...lack of size... can't be overcome by a couple of good through balls a game and the occassionally good corner kick.
Since his give away to City that resulted in a goal he hasn't looked like a premiere league player. He looks indecisive and timid.
its difficult to look good in a bad team. and his fellow midfielders do not give him to much support.
when serri left the fioeld it was 2 2.
the change was unexpected as Kmac and Stefan J were far worse in terms of contribution and for ayite was a sensless and suicidal thing.
as far as seri is concened he is obviously a class act but struggling like so many to settle when the line changes quite so often. but for sure when he walked off, our chances of getting a result left the field with him.
Quote from: Stoneleigh Loyalist on October 22, 2018, 12:16:04 PM
seri is a very good player but he has come to a team that is not as good as he was led to believe and it has become a morale problem plus to a certain extent an attitude problem.
He is capable of playing in far better teams than Fulham and I cannot see him being with us for very long.
Agree, I said something similar on here the other day but got shot down by someone interpreting it as me saying we shouldn't sign talented players. What i meant is you need a mix of prima donna flair/luxury players and more humble grafter-types for a healthy dressing room, particularly if you're going to be losing most weeks and having to scrap against teams like Cardiff.
I also said on here previously that I don't see this team having the heart for a great escape. we have the quality to finish mid-table but if we're still around 17th with a handful of games left, we're nailed on to go down IMO
Quote from: nose on October 22, 2018, 01:17:18 PM
when serri left the fioeld it was 2 2.
the change was unexpected as Kmac and Stefan J were far worse in terms of contribution and for ayite was a sensless and suicidal thing.
as far as seri is concened he is obviously a class act but struggling like so many to settle when the line changes quite so often. but for sure when he walked off, our chances of getting a result left the field with him.
That's actually a really good point. Seri and Johansen were looking pretty composed on the ball for the most part. We even had some decent possession at times. Again, it's one of these questionable subs that makes or breaks sometimes. Ayite not a bad player at all, but not Seri type playmaker. We were left with McDonald and Johansen. Part of our past strengths was having two creative midfielders (Johansen and Cairney) and one CDM who can put a body on players. Think it was too early to be pulling Seri, but I remember at the time I was upset with Seri for being so poor defensively, however I didn't expect Ayite to replace him.
Thought his passing was poor until the second half, especially first 20 mins. As he started to get into the game, he was taken off in what was probably Slav's most ridiculous sub I've seen in a while.
Quote from: FFC1987 on October 22, 2018, 02:36:05 PM
Thought his passing was poor until the second half, especially first 20 mins. As he started to get into the game, he was taken off in what was probably Slav's most ridiculous sub I've seen in a while.
+1
Taking Seri off on Saturday was a self inflicted wound, and I could not comprehend the reason for this decision, and what happened after he left the field of play showed what an error of judgement that was.
I said it before and I'll say it again, I don't think KMac and Johansson are good enough in the same team at this level. Great in rotation but they don't quite cut it as a pair. We need that middle of Seri/Cairney/Johannson and KMAC/Anguissa. I just don't see quality with KMac and johansson played together.
We know that Seri can play when he has the ball at his feet and he gets rid of the ball before a more physical player can dispossess him.
I'm going to watch him today to see what he does when Fulhum lose possession.
If you're a midfielder, and you know your back line is weak...YOU HAVE TO DO MORE DEFENSIVELY. I haven't seen him do very much of that this season. Especially since the City game.
Paul Pogba and Kevin De Bruyne are attacking midfielders. They are both also expected to be defenders...or at least be in the correct defensive position, when the opposing team has the ball. They aren't expected to just watch the ball when it's possessed by the other team.
I'm watching you Seri. I'm expecting some of those mid-field 50/50 balls to be won by you and for you to help us get more attacking opportunities than we got last game.
Does Cairney win a lot of 50/50 balls then? TC is the benchmark he should be judged against
I'm still waiting to see why everyone is up Seri's tail, yet Anguissa can do nothing good.
Of the two at least Anguissa at times looks PL quality. All I see Seri do most of the time he's in the game is chase the ball.
He wasn't missed today at all, and I'd argue the team looked less effective when Cairney was subbed for him.
Seri has been poor of late and couldn't have any complaints after being dropped. He needs to learn you don't get as much time on the ball here. Still, I believe he has the ability it's just the mindset.
Seri is probably the worst signing Fulham have made. He is still living on that single woinder goal and is the main reason we have little midfield possession in our games.
Quote from: Nick Bateman on November 11, 2018, 02:01:51 PM
Seri is probably the worst signing Fulham have made. He is still living on that single woinder goal and is the main reason we have little midfield possession in our games.
I don't see why more people haven't seen this. I'm sure Slav has. It's blatantly obvious that Seri isn't a Slav player.
Slav is always going on about needing to be bigger, stronger, faster in the premiere league. Which of those boxes does Seri check.
He's not even good at possession ball.
I'd be looking to move him during the transfer window and I'd spend 30 million on a quality holding mid that has pace.
Rubbish again today. Got caught. No vision. No fight.
No coincidence that we had our best half of football for ages when he wasn't on the pitch. No passion or fight ... looks like he doesn't want to be here. Bad attitude... get rid in January.
Quote from: The Old Count on October 20, 2018, 08:53:41 PM
99 posts and most of them slagging off one player.
You're right. Because imo he's the most glaring problem on the squad.
Apparently one of my favorite young players (Timothy Fosu-Mensah) is also poor (mentally) but Seri is way more important to the success of this squad than Timothy is.
Seri just doesn't look physically able to compete at this level...and I've said so since the first City game.
- Retain possession
Obtain possession
Seri isn't good at either at this level.
Quote from: DevonFFC on October 20, 2018, 08:50:38 PM
Quote from: Buffalo76 on October 20, 2018, 08:42:08 PM
Apart from a wonder goal against Burnley he's been a mixed bag 4 me. Wondered what Barcelona potentially saw in him supposedly last year. Maybe 9 games in isn't long enough 2 judge him though. New country, new league etc.
He was brought in to play in the system and style we had last season when we were by far the best footballing team.
This season we have tried to play the same easy, difference is we are way in quality to be able to play the style we want to. Seri is on a different level to the rest of the midfield and you can see it when you watch him live some of his quick flicks and round the corner passes, granted some don't come off but some of that is don't to the guys in the team not thinking as one like we did last season.
Is he small, yes. Is he slow, not when I have seen him.
It is fae to early to write the guy off, he has the quality like many of the other members of the squad but it seems they are either not on the same wave length or not sticking to the plan and that opens up a whole different can of worms
I doubt if slav bought him in!
He's a good player but much the same when we went down last time, he's a player who you don't want in a relegation fight. We looked a lot better with him on the bench. Same team and setup for Southampton hopefully
Quote from: JoelH5 on November 11, 2018, 02:37:10 PM
He's a good player but much the same when we went down last time, he's a player who you don't want in a relegation fight. We looked a lot better with him on the bench. Same team and setup for Southampton hopefully
What's he good at?
If you're not good against the current level of competition you're playing against are you really good?
Ryan Sess is a good player.
Mitro is a good player.
It can even be argued that Cairney is a good player at this level when healthy.
Seri has had 10+ games to show his quality in the premiere league. He's not good. Average at best at this level. That may change with time, but he's not good yet.
Quote from: JoelH5 on November 11, 2018, 02:37:10 PM
He's a good player but much the same when we went down last time, he's a player who you don't want in a relegation fight. We looked a lot better with him on the bench. Same team and setup for Southampton hopefully
Agree with you but the thing is if, and only if, we can get players like Seri playing well in this team, then we can start to do more than just scrap for 17th with the likes of Cardiff and Huddersfield.
At the end of thr day Shaqiri isn't a player you'd want in a relegation fight but paradoxically he appears to be useful in a title challenge.
Bottom line is I agree he could do with a few games on the bench at the moment.
He's technically decent but lacks size, pace, tackling ability, battling qualities and has a poor attitude... Bad Apple. Get what we can in January. He'll do well with a Monaco or Lyon in the French league... not for a relegation scrap in the English premiership
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on November 11, 2018, 02:43:01 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on November 11, 2018, 02:37:10 PM
He's a good player but much the same when we went down last time, he's a player who you don't want in a relegation fight. We looked a lot better with him on the bench. Same team and setup for Southampton hopefully
What's he good at?
If you're not good against the current level of competition you're playing against are you really good?
Ryan Sess is a good player.
Mitro is a good player.
It can even be argued that Cairney is a good player at this level when healthy.
Seri has had 10+ games to show his quality in the premiere league. He's not good. Average at best at this level. That may change with time, but he's not good yet.
Chances created - he's one of the best in the league but we're not taking them, is that his fault too?
Quote from: Deeping_white on November 11, 2018, 02:57:55 PM
Chances created - he's one of the best in the league but we're not taking them, is that his fault too?
One cannot make a silk purse out of sow's ear....
Quote from: Deeping_white on November 11, 2018, 02:57:55 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on November 11, 2018, 02:43:01 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on November 11, 2018, 02:37:10 PM
He's a good player but much the same when we went down last time, he's a player who you don't want in a relegation fight. We looked a lot better with him on the bench. Same team and setup for Southampton hopefully
What's he good at?
If you're not good against the current level of competition you're playing against are you really good?
Ryan Sess is a good player.
Mitro is a good player.
It can even be argued that Cairney is a good player at this level when healthy.
Seri has had 10+ games to show his quality in the premiere league. He's not good. Average at best at this level. That may change with time, but he's not good yet.
Chances created - he's one of the best in the league but we're not taking them, is that his fault too?
Nope.
What else would you say he's good at though? If Cairney got Seri's minutes I'd say he'd have those numbers too. Cairney tends to put in a little more fight though. And Cairney is less likely to get dispossed, and when he does he knows how to get the ball back.
Remember..this is a 27 million pound signee who has gotten more playing time than anyone other than Sess, Mitro and Schurrle.
Seri's body language has been appalling since the end of September. He's part of the problem IMO and it's not a shock that we played so well 1st half with battling qualities without him.
Surprisingly they were able to create decent chances when he wasn't on the pitch.
For me it is nothing to do with his skill but everything to do with his attitude.
Yep we looked miles better when he wasnt on. When he signed I was over the moon but I genuinely wish we had spent the 20/30 on PL journeymen instead. Would have been some much needed experience
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on October 22, 2018, 06:45:07 AM
When you are forced to play the role of the creator, a role which he is not accustomed to, without additional support, you may look overrun.
Agree with that to some extent, I get the feeling that Seri would shine within a team that's performing well together. He doesn't strike me as a player to ull us out of this mess.
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on November 11, 2018, 04:08:55 PM
If Cairney got Seri's minutes I'd say he'd have those numbers too. Cairney tends to put in a little more fight though. And Cairney is less likely to get dispossed, and when he does he knows how to get the ball back.
Remember..this is a 27 million pound signee who has gotten more playing time than anyone other than Sess, Mitro and Schurrle.
Excellent points made!
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on November 11, 2018, 04:08:55 PM
Remember..this is a 27 million pound signee
Until you can put the fee to one side, you can't have a rational debate about it.
I think 90% of fans would admit that he's not currently playing like a £30m player. I'd admit that, and that he needs a spell on the bench.
However I'm sure 90% of those who watched him earlier in the season would maintain that if he's up for it, he's a quality player who'd walk into the first XI at 12-15 premier league clubs.
Clearly he's lacking enthusiasm at the moment, but that's what happens when you go from being one of the most sought after players in Europe to losing on a cold afternoon in Cardiff, in the space of a few months.
He's still one of the top 5 players we've had in the last 40 years IMO, even if it was for just a few games before he lost his mojo. So some of the comments on this thread seem a bit ridiculous.
I have a lot of time for Seri but clearly the team looks better without him. I am beginning to think that perhaps Seri is a luxury we can't afford.
He's not even amongst the top 5 players this season never mind 40 years. Without effort, application and end result he's nothing. Couldn't lace the boots of Malbranque, Collins, Davis, Clark, Diarra, Dembele and plenty of others.
I still have fate he will come good. Pre-Mancity(the league game) everyone was saying how great he is, how he is a bargain for what he can do and so on. After the Mancity game his form dropped, maybe because of his health condition 🤔. Anyway I am confident he will be great again.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on November 11, 2018, 09:45:53 PM
I still have fate he will come good. Pre-Mancity(the league game) everyone was saying how great he is, how he is a bargain for what he can do and so on. After the Mancity game his form dropped, maybe because of his health condition 🤔. Anyway I am confident he will be great again.
Health condition?
Dodgy toes that can't bear the cold?!
Quote from: JoelH5 on November 11, 2018, 09:50:36 PM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on November 11, 2018, 09:45:53 PM
I still have fate he will come good. Pre-Mancity(the league game) everyone was saying how great he is, how he is a bargain for what he can do and so on. After the Mancity game his form dropped, maybe because of his health condition 🤔. Anyway I am confident he will be great again.
Health condition?
Chilblains
Quote from: JoelH5 on November 11, 2018, 09:50:36 PM
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on November 11, 2018, 09:45:53 PM
I still have fate he will come good. Pre-Mancity(the league game) everyone was saying how great he is, how he is a bargain for what he can do and so on. After the Mancity game his form dropped, maybe because of his health condition 🤔. Anyway I am confident he will be great again.
Health condition?
Soft underbelly
Nita big enough heart ( not enough to pump the blood to his extremities that is )
Well...Seri doesn't have the defense or work rate of N'Golo. Guess we'll see how the new manager uses him.
Quote from: Nick Bateman on November 11, 2018, 07:52:28 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on November 11, 2018, 04:08:55 PM
If Cairney got Seri's minutes I'd say he'd have those numbers too. Cairney tends to put in a little more fight though. And Cairney is less likely to get dispossed, and when he does he knows how to get the ball back.
Remember..this is a 27 million pound signee who has gotten more playing time than anyone other than Sess, Mitro and Schurrle.
Excellent points made!
As I made clear when he signed, Seri did not cost anything like £27m. Closer to half that.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on November 14, 2018, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on November 11, 2018, 07:52:28 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on November 11, 2018, 04:08:55 PM
If Cairney got Seri's minutes I'd say he'd have those numbers too. Cairney tends to put in a little more fight though. And Cairney is less likely to get dispossed, and when he does he knows how to get the ball back.
Remember..this is a 27 million pound signee who has gotten more playing time than anyone other than Sess, Mitro and Schurrle.
Excellent points made!
As I made clear when he signed, Seri did not cost anything like £27m. Closer to half that.
Well...I feel better about them not using him moving forward then. It's easier to bench at 15 million player.
I didn't see your previous post about the actual cost of Seri. I wouldn't have been less critical, but I would have been more understanding of the purchase.
I doubt he's used much moving forward.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on November 14, 2018, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on November 11, 2018, 07:52:28 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on November 11, 2018, 04:08:55 PM
If Cairney got Seri's minutes I'd say he'd have those numbers too. Cairney tends to put in a little more fight though. And Cairney is less likely to get dispossed, and when he does he knows how to get the ball back.
Remember..this is a 27 million pound signee who has gotten more playing time than anyone other than Sess, Mitro and Schurrle.
Excellent points made!
As I made clear when he signed, Seri did not cost anything like £27m. Closer to half that.
Evidence?
Quote from: Statto on November 14, 2018, 09:25:08 PM
Quote from: Southcoastffc on November 14, 2018, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on November 11, 2018, 07:52:28 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on November 11, 2018, 04:08:55 PM
If Cairney got Seri's minutes I'd say he'd have those numbers too. Cairney tends to put in a little more fight though. And Cairney is less likely to get dispossed, and when he does he knows how to get the ball back.
Remember..this is a 27 million pound signee who has gotten more playing time than anyone other than Sess, Mitro and Schurrle.
Excellent points made!
As I made clear when he signed, Seri did not cost anything like £27m. Closer to half that.
Evidence?
Well, Sky for one but obviously that's pinch of salt.
And it was a combined 27m deal with Le Marchand, so you can spin the price weighting however you like, but the fact is he wasn't anywhere near as expensive as people make him out to be, especially since MLM has been one of our better performers this season.
Quote from: Southcoastffc on November 14, 2018, 07:48:30 PM
Quote from: Nick Bateman on November 11, 2018, 07:52:28 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on November 11, 2018, 04:08:55 PM
If Cairney got Seri's minutes I'd say he'd have those numbers too. Cairney tends to put in a little more fight though. And Cairney is less likely to get dispossed, and when he does he knows how to get the ball back.
Remember..this is a 27 million pound signee who has gotten more playing time than anyone other than Sess, Mitro and Schurrle.
Excellent points made!
As I made clear when he signed, Seri did not cost anything like £27m. Closer to half that.
According to your post MLM cost more than Seri. If you thought 30 million for the two was on the mark, and you only think Seri was bought for 12, that means you think the squad paid 17 million or so for MLM.
If that's true I'm trying to figure out why people were so high on Seri (based on the eyeball test in every game this season).
It also explains why he was having such a difficult time bossing the midfield this season against poor teams (Huddersfield/Cardiff/Brighton)
I've never claimed £30m for any player(s), just that Seri's cost has been very overstated. See posts on 14 July last.
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If Cairney got Seri's minutes I'd say he'd have those numbers too. Cairney tends to put in a little more fight though. And Cairney is less likely to get dispossed, and when he does he knows how to get the ball back.
Remember..this is a 27 million pound signee who has gotten more playing time than anyone other than Sess, Mitro and Schurrle.
Excellent points made!
As I made clear when he signed, Seri did not cost anything like £27m. Closer to half that.
Evidence?
Where's yours??
Quote from: Southcoastffc on November 14, 2018, 09:48:26 PM
I've never claimed £30m for any player(s), just that Seri's cost has been very overstated. See posts on 14 July last.
QuoteAnd I have no idea what Max Le M cost but instinctively, I doubt that the £30m for the two that has been bandied about is way off the mark.
You did type that in the Seri cost thread correct? That implies you "think" 17 mil for MLM is close to the mark.
Not to be argumentative. Just clarifying.
I've spent all this season thinking the team's big signing of the summer (other than Mitro) was Seri. But if MLM cost more than him how important could his signing have been?
Slav tried his hardest to squeeze the guy into the starting lineup every week...to the detriment of the midfield. Plus, with Cairney injured all Slav had to fall back on was Seri, Anguissa, Johan, McD...none EPL experienced.
Aah, so sorry. That was a very bad and misleading typo. I meant to say that I doubt the figure, and that I felt that £30m was way off the mark.
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If Cairney got Seri's minutes I'd say he'd have those numbers too. Cairney tends to put in a little more fight though. And Cairney is less likely to get dispossed, and when he does he knows how to get the ball back.
Remember..this is a 27 million pound signee who has gotten more playing time than anyone other than Sess, Mitro and Schurrle.
Excellent points made!
As I made clear when he signed, Seri did not cost anything like £27m. Closer to half that.
Evidence?
Where's yours??
The Telegraph - £25m
SkySports - £30m the pair
The Guardian - £25m
Talk Sport - £25m
The Times - £30m the pair
The Independent - £25m
Transfermarkt - £27m
Now don't get me wrong, I don't take sports journos' claims as gospel, but when they are all reporting something that consistently, I'm heavily inclined to believe it, unless of course someone has some compelling evidence to the contrary. Which is why I said... Evidence?
The 3 of them cost £50m from what I remember at the time. Anguissa 27m. Seri 20m and MLM 3m.
I think Seri will struggle to find a place in Ranieri's set-up so it doesn't much matter what he cost. Whatever it was, it was too much. Ranieri's high - pressing style requires aggressive, powerful ball-winners and ball-keepers. Seri can't do either of those with much conviction.
Quote from: Neil D on November 15, 2018, 07:03:06 AM
I think Seri will struggle to find a place in Ranieri's set-up so it doesn't much matter what he cost. Whatever it was, it was too much. Ranieri's high - pressing style requires aggressive, powerful ball-winners and ball-keepers. Seri can't do either of those with much conviction.
Seri is totally not a Ranieri type player - he wants players who will work hard, win the ball and recylcle quickly for counter attacks and press the play hard when not in possession - 100% not Seri!
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Quote from: Neil D on November 15, 2018, 07:03:06 AM
I think Seri will struggle to find a place in Ranieri's set-up so it doesn't much matter what he cost. Whatever it was, it was too much. Ranieri's high - pressing style requires aggressive, powerful ball-winners and ball-keepers. Seri can't do either of those with much conviction.
Seri is totally not a Ranieri type player - he wants players who will work hard, win the ball and recylcle quickly for counter attacks and press the play hard when not in possession - 100% not Seri!
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To be fair, he could come good if used in a different way. It's possible.
I'm sure Ranieri will consider all available options. But, I'm sure he will soon tell him he's not up to scratch, or he thinks he's not pulling his weight.
He is up to scratch - he just hasn't been pulling his weight ( for whatever reason ) . The new manager will get it out of him or he will be dropped a threat which should have the desired effect
Give johansen a chance - he may not be too PL quality but he will give everything and chase and press
Quote from: Baszab on November 15, 2018, 09:24:13 AM
Give johansen a chance - he may not be too PL quality but he will give everything and chase and press
High energy & box to box, likes a tackle. I think Stef Jo will be one that benefits from Ranieri coming in and will start to feature.
Seri will be what Drinkwater was to Leicester, the playmaker in chief as he's got the best passing range of anyone in the team
Seri won't close down relentlessly and tackle - don't see hardly any similarity between him & Drinkwater tbh.
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on November 15, 2018, 12:03:02 PM
Seri won't close down relentlessly and tackle - don't see hardly any similarity between him & Drinkwater tbh.
You do realise it was Kante doing the majority of the work in that respect don't you? You just don't like Seri as you've made abundantly clear in the majority of your posts so I don't expect you to see any positives in what he does
Seri neither has the workrate or ability to tackle. His main attribute from France is his passing stats. Yes he's a good player - in a good side that sees plenty ofthe ball. I didn't say Seri was a bad player, he may though have a bad attitude, but his the wrong type of player for us right now and I can almost guarantee you that he won't fit with how Ranieri wants to play - a manager who has publically said numerous times that he doesn't play possession football.
Smooth talking and a good package sold Seri a Ford Fiesta when he thought he was getting a Rolls Royce.
He clearly mentioned his move as being a 'step on the ladder' and he thought he was moving into the Premiership shop window for either a short or long time. The Khans also see him as a profit waiting to be made as regardless of his form with us he will be in demand when the time comes.
All that having been said let us hope that the new boss gives him a necessary kick up the backside to play with some commitment for the club that pays his wages.
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Give johansen a chance - he may not be too PL quality but he will give everything and chase and press
High energy & box to box, likes a tackle. I think Stef Jo will be one that benefits from Ranieri coming in and will start to feature.
Yeah he could be useful. Not sure he's a starter but def someone to bring off the bench.
If you watch last weeks game against Liverpool their second goal was down to another midfielder who hasn't covered himself in roses so leave the knocking of current players for a while and you might see some improvement
I do wonder if Slav making the point that the incoming players were not his, made him feel not valued.
Just a thought in my head.
Someone explain to me ANYTHING that Seri has done that benefited the team when he didn't have the ball at his feet.
I'll wait.
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ok...maybe Claudio will bring something out of Seri Slav wasn't able to.
The comments about on the ball passing are great and all, but that can be done by Cairney. It's not going to be done by both of them when neither is great at off the ball stuff and Seri is worse of the two.
And yes...I DON'T like Seri. He's one of the defensive deficiencies that led to a good coach being sacked. You want to know who SHOULD have gone? It wasn't Slav.
Quote from: alfie on November 15, 2018, 10:36:21 PM
I do wonder if Slav making the point that the incoming players were not his, made him feel not valued.
Just a thought in my head.
Well it would me Alfie - especially if I was the only one with a real football pedigree. Must feel quite surreal. If a surgeon was about to make the first incision and a porter came into the Theatre and said ' don't do that do this' that would be regarded as bizarre and undermining as well as perhaps a little stupid. That is not to say that any coach / manager should have total power - but far better that they have the football input and someone else counterbalances it with a financial / deal input
Quote from: alfie on November 15, 2018, 10:36:21 PM
I do wonder if Slav making the point that the incoming players were not his, made him feel not valued.
Just a thought in my head.
It gives him and out, and it should. I don't think he felt not wanted though.
Interesting to see the large minority here that question Khan Jr. and recruitment. It went Pete tong for a reason and SJ was and has been a pretty successful manager.
Deep down, we just might have needed to mix it up. Seri might come good, and that might go for anyone.
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Someone explain to me ANYTHING that Seri has done that benefited the team when he didn't have the ball at his feet.
I'll wait.
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ok...maybe Claudio will bring something out of Seri Slav wasn't able to.
The comments about on the ball passing are great and all, but that can be done by Cairney. It's not going to be done by both of them when neither is great at off the ball stuff and Seri is worse of the two.
And yes...I DON'T like Seri. He's one of the defensive deficiencies that led to a good coach being sacked. You want to know who SHOULD have gone? It wasn't Slav.
So now it's Seri's fault we have a new manager? 063.gif
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on November 15, 2018, 06:57:13 AM
The 3 of them cost £50m from what I remember at the time. Anguissa 27m. Seri 20m and MLM 3m.
Whatever the price for each of these players was, it was £50m ill spent!
It is Khans fault all was Rosie last season when Hilda used Yorkshire T/Bags,they told her the cost was mounting up and she would have to cut down and use Sainsbury's cheap own brand...Its been downhill ever since.☕☕☕
Everyone starts with a blank slate now. Let's give them some games to make amends.
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Everyone starts with a blank slate now. Let's give them some games to make amends.
Agree. I think if people were willing to give Slav more time then they should be willing to give the players more time.
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Everyone starts with a blank slate now. Let's give them some games to make amends.
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Remember..this is a 27 million pound signee
Until you can put the fee to one side, you can't have a rational debate about it.
I think 90% of fans would admit that he's not currently playing like a £30m player. I'd admit that, and that he needs a spell on the bench.
However I'm sure 90% of those who watched him earlier in the season would maintain that if he's up for it, he's a quality player who'd walk into the first XI at 12-15 premier league clubs.
Clearly he's lacking enthusiasm at the moment, but that's what happens when you go from being one of the most sought after players in Europe to losing on a cold afternoon in Cardiff, in the space of a few months.
He's still one of the top 5 players we've had in the last 40 years IMO, even if it was for just a few games before he lost his mojo. So some of the comments on this thread seem a bit ridiculous.
This quote is the ridiculous one. Seri would not make the bench in any PL side at the moment
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Quote from: Statto on November 11, 2018, 08:28:30 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on November 11, 2018, 04:08:55 PM
Remember..this is a 27 million pound signee
Until you can put the fee to one side, you can't have a rational debate about it.
I think 90% of fans would admit that he's not currently playing like a £30m player. I'd admit that, and that he needs a spell on the bench.
However I'm sure 90% of those who watched him earlier in the season would maintain that if he's up for it, he's a quality player who'd walk into the first XI at 12-15 premier league clubs.
Clearly he's lacking enthusiasm at the moment, but that's what happens when you go from being one of the most sought after players in Europe to losing on a cold afternoon in Cardiff, in the space of a few months.
He's still one of the top 5 players we've had in the last 40 years IMO, even if it was for just a few games before he lost his mojo. So some of the comments on this thread seem a bit ridiculous.
This quote is the ridiculous one. Seri would not make the bench in any PL side at the moment
blimey. let it go man, let it go
i know i touched a nerve with you the other day
but surely even you don't believe the sentence you've just typed
why humiliate yourself further by repeating this?
we all make throwaway comments without thinking from time to time, or use hyperbole we know isn't true
repeating it, and harassing me, will just compound your neuroses
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Quote from: alfie on November 15, 2018, 10:36:21 PM
I do wonder if Slav making the point that the incoming players were not his, made him feel not valued.
Just a thought in my head.
Well it would me Alfie - especially if I was the only one with a real football pedigree. Must feel quite surreal. If a surgeon was about to make the first incision and a porter came into the Theatre and said ' don't do that do this' that would be regarded as bizarre and undermining as well as perhaps a little stupid. That is not to say that any coach / manager should have total power - but far better that they have the football input and someone else counterbalances it with a financial / deal input
++++ many times over.
Jokanovic held the poisoned chalice from the start and knew it would eventually kill him.
Thought he had a pretty good game against Southampton today.
Held his positioning most of the time...put in two good challenges (one drew a foul...which is shouldn't have been imo)
You can't make him stronger or faster...so if his positioning stays solid I don't have a problem with him.
6 out of 10.
I'd have rated him a 7 out of 10 if Southampton's first goal hadn't happened. He's gotta play stronger than that.
Promising signs, and he can surely only improve more as he gets used to the team, which will hopefully become more settled in personnel and system, and to the pace and physical nature of the Prem.
I don't think he had a bad game today.
I also don't think he had any impact on the game, positively or negatively.
5 out of 10
It was nice to see someone else take a corner opportunity.
Seri did have his 1 karate kick that he throws out for high balls.
I don't get the negativity for Seri, he wasn't the player that missed the chances or the right back who let the winger cross for both goals. He's not had a great start but has class and a good eye for a pass.
We are being let down by poor finishing and the same errors in defense.
Seri appears to be the only player in the team who can take a decent corner. That was evident after he was substituted. That said, he is too cautious, plays too many unambitious short balls, doesn't tackle or track back with any sense of urgency. However, he wasn't that bad against WHU. I think that he would be a different player in a team playing with confidence but he seems to suffer more than most from the malaise affecting the team as a whole.
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First 4/5 games I was convinced he was one of the top 10 players ever to wear our shirt
Most of our new players, even Schurrle, are yet to play a good 90 mins IMO, but Seri is the exception. If he is playing crap it's clearly a morale issue rather than a lack of talent
I agree with you on Seri, he is very frustrating to watch as he is so inconsistent. I believe a lot has to do with confidence. Unfortunately we dont have time to wait on someone regaining their mojo. He must be close to being dropped.
Also Schurrle is another I am having trouble watching, wayward shots for goal and lack lustre effort in defence.
How was he today?
I missed the game.
Quote from: Buffalo76 on October 20, 2018, 08:42:08 PM
Apart from a wonder goal against Burnley he's been a mixed bag 4 me. Wondered what Barcelona potentially saw in him supposedly last year. Maybe 9 games in isn't long enough 2 judge him though. New country, new league etc.
Tony Gale - "Let's face it if Barcelona were really interested in him they would of signed him."
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 09, 2019, 04:42:08 PM
How was he today?
I missed the game.
Console yourself with the knowledge that whatever it was that you did instead of watching this shambles, it was time well spent. Seri wasn't the worst player on the pitch - that was Schurrle as usual - but he wasn't far behind with his headless chicken tackles. I know Cairney is a poor tackler but he has so much more to offer going forward.
As my mind wandered in the second half, I was reflecting that I can't recall a player using side spin on a football more extravagantly and repeatedly. To no particular effect other than to appear classy to those who look for shortcuts to understanding what makes a good footballer.
Granted, it's one step up from Carborundum Jnr's insistence that the best footballers all have sticky-uppy hair. But only one and Jnr saw the error of his analysis around the age of eight.
Poor game from Seri today, but the lack of runners doesn't help him and he seems a decent person.
Quote from: Carborundum on February 09, 2019, 06:08:57 PM
As my mind wandered in the second half, I was reflecting that I can't recall a player using side spin on a football more extravagantly and repeatedly. To no particular effect other than to appear classy to those who look for shortcuts to understanding what makes a good footballer.
Granted, it's one step up from Carborundum Jnr's insistence that the best footballers all have sticky-uppy hair. But only one and Jnr saw the error of his analysis around the age of eight.
Poor game from Seri today, but the lack of runners doesn't help him and he seems a decent person.
So many opportunities for cross field, quick passes to start a counter attack and he bottles it and passes sideways. You can DO it, Seri! We've seen you! Go for it! Poor bloke just has no confidence going forward.
Defensively he broke up play well as always.
I think the financial disputes with his old club derailed him a bit mid season and he's been suffering with lack of confidence too.
Seri was ok today. Works hard, always looking for the ball but with little movement in front of him, his options are limited, except to keep possession and pass square or back. Good player in a poor team
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Quote from: Carborundum on February 09, 2019, 06:08:57 PM
As my mind wandered in the second half, I was reflecting that I can't recall a player using side spin on a football more extravagantly and repeatedly. To no particular effect other than to appear classy to those who look for shortcuts to understanding what makes a good footballer.
Granted, it's one step up from Carborundum Jnr's insistence that the best footballers all have sticky-uppy hair. But only one and Jnr saw the error of his analysis around the age of eight.
Poor game from Seri today, but the lack of runners doesn't help him and he seems a decent person.
So many opportunities for cross field, quick passes to start a counter attack and he bottles it and passes sideways. You can DO it, Seri! We've seen you! Go for it! Poor bloke just has no confidence going forward.
Defensively he broke up play well as always.
I think the financial disputes with his old club derailed him a bit mid season and he's been suffering with lack of confidence too.
I completely agree with Milo's frustration that Seri too often players a safe square pass. It contributes nothing and is just passing responsibility to a team mate. He needs to contribute more or reinstate TC in his proper role.
In fact just do it, reinstate TC, what have we got to lose?
Today I thought he was s***e and out of his depth,TC would have been more effective even with one foot..
Did you notice, Seri was the only...I mean ONLY midfield player in the 11 that started today. Chambers is excellent but not a natural midfield player. We had 5 defenders and 4 forwards and Seri.
I get pissed off every week with our fans blaming Seri when the bloke has absolutely no chance what so ever. He would be fantastic in a well balanced team, unfortunately we are anything but !
Quote from: SG on February 09, 2019, 07:05:22 PM
Seri was ok today. Works hard, always looking for the ball but with little movement in front of him, his options are limited, except to keep possession and pass square or back. Good player in a poor team
Agree
I still think he's a £25m player
Criminal that we have players like him and Mitrovic and will finish below Cardiff, Burnley and Brighton
Good player operating on a different wavelength to players around him
Good player, class player, playing in a poor team, not his fault, some of the comments i keep reading.
Sorry, if we was class player etc,
He would be contributing a lot more to try and get us out this mess.
He is part of this poor team and showing nothing to make him stand out
What does he contribute?
As for his attempted tackles???
Not saying he is the worst but was expecting a lot more from him.
Is he really a major upgrade on what we had .?
And who maybe should have been given a chance under Ranieri
Quote from: hovewhite on February 09, 2019, 10:50:05 PM
Today I thought he was s***e and out of his depth,TC would have been more effective even with one foot..
Then you need your eyes testing, in the first half he was the only player passing the ball long and short effectively, and was the only one getting involved and making tackles other than Chambers, who loses the ball as soon as he wins it back because he can't pass more than five yards. He cops so much flak from people on here but if you actually watch him throughout the game, he's trying to organise players and get them to move into positions to pass the ball and make some space to be available and yet none of them seem to get it. When we go down he's going to be picked up by a much better team and show how good he really is, a bit like Shaqiri did when he left stoke for Liverpool
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Quote from: hovewhite on February 09, 2019, 10:50:05 PM
Today I thought he was s***e and out of his depth,TC would have been more effective even with one foot..
Then you need your eyes testing, in the first half he was the only player passing the ball long and short effectively, and was the only one getting involved and making tackles other than Chambers, who loses the ball as soon as he wins it back because he can't pass more than five yards. He cops so much flak from people on here but if you actually watch him throughout the game, he's trying to organise players and get them to move into positions to pass the ball and make some space to be available and yet none of them seem to get it. When we go down he's going to be picked up by a much better team and show how good he really is, a bit like Shaqiri did when he left stoke for Liverpool
Wow.
His tackling is awful.His passing average, Chambers is so much better..Yes like those sort of players who point a lot but dont do a lot.A bit like Tunnicliffe
.How many games has he influenced this season .He is not a shining light in a poor side.
He is part of the problem of the poor side along with the others.
Picked up by a better side!! Probably go back to the French League.
Shaquiri or Seri tough one.
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Quote from: hovewhite on February 09, 2019, 10:50:05 PM
Today I thought he was s***e and out of his depth,TC would have been more effective even with one foot..
Then you need your eyes testing, in the first half he was the only player passing the ball long and short effectively, and was the only one getting involved and making tackles other than Chambers, who loses the ball as soon as he wins it back because he can't pass more than five yards. He cops so much flak from people on here but if you actually watch him throughout the game, he's trying to organise players and get them to move into positions to pass the ball and make some space to be available and yet none of them seem to get it. When we go down he's going to be picked up by a much better team and show how good he really is, a bit like Shaqiri did when he left stoke for Liverpool
Wow.
His tackling is awful.His passing average, Chambers is so much better..Yes like those sort of players who point a lot but dont do a lot.A bit like Tunnicliffe
.How many games has he influenced this season .He is not a shining light in a poor side.
He is part of the problem of the poor side along with the others.
Picked up by a better side!! Probably go back to the French League.
Shaquiri or Seri tough one.
Chambers so much better than Seri ....
I bet both Seri and Cairney will be away in the summer window, neither of them will want Championship football, that will leave a vacuum in our midfield.
Quote from: filham on February 10, 2019, 11:59:29 AM
I bet both Seri and Cairney will be away in the summer window, neither of them will want Championship football, that will leave a vacuum in our midfield.
Seri will be off and I feel sure that we will recoup our money for him as like many I see a good player there. I'm not so sure about TC going as I am not sure that he is a Premiership quality player. Certainly a star in the Championship but there are plenty better than him in the Premiership already
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Quote from: Buffalo76 on October 20, 2018, 08:42:08 PM
Apart from a wonder goal against Burnley he's been a mixed bag 4 me. Wondered what Barcelona potentially saw in him supposedly last year. Maybe 9 games in isn't long enough 2 judge him though. New country, new league etc.
Tony Gale - "Let's face it if Barcelona were really interested in him they would of signed him."
Surely it is possible that Barcelona can be interested in several players and unlikely to always sign them all. To think otherwise is just daft in my opinion (no offense to Gale, but such BS adds nothing). No one has ever claimed that we won a race against Barcelona for the signature of Seri, just that Barcelona had previously been interested. I can see why, he looks like the type of player that would flourish in a possession team that almost always have the upper hand against their opponents.
It is not Seri's fault that no one else wants the ball generally. If you watch Chambers, he actually tries to avoid possession most of the time. And when he gets it, he generally looses it within seconds. Hi is a decent PL midfielder defensively, but way below average offensively.
It did work better however when he played with both TC and Seri, as he could then play 5 yards safety passes and get into new positions.
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Quote from: Buffalo76 on October 20, 2018, 08:42:08 PM
Apart from a wonder goal against Burnley he's been a mixed bag 4 me. Wondered what Barcelona potentially saw in him supposedly last year. Maybe 9 games in isn't long enough 2 judge him though. New country, new league etc.
Tony Gale - "Let's face it if Barcelona were really interested in him they would of signed him."
Surely it is possible that Barcelona can be interested in several players and unlikely to always sign them all. To think otherwise is just daft in my opinion (no offense to Gale, but such BS adds nothing). No one has ever claimed that we won a race against Barcelona for the signature of Seri, just that Barcelona had previously been interested. I can see why, he looks like the type of player that would flourish in a possession team that almost always have the upper hand against their opponents.
Lazy journalism from Gale.
I think more agent's talk than actual fact.
