I love Slavisa and for me he's been our best manager since Roy and of course we play much better football.
However, this season we've been appalling and it's so painful seeing us get regularly mauled.
The man usually exudes cool composure but his decisions lately have demonstrated desperation and confusion. I think the only way he's not getting fired is if the boys really put on a play for him and take the game to Bournemouth. We need a good performance.
The thing is if we can over these jitters I think we'll build momentum and be fine. And yes it may be time to play Rico, but for God's sake just not Chambers.
yes he can. Albeit he needs to buck his ideas up from last game. His selection and subs were appalling.
He's done it before - like last season, when many were calling for him to go.
Sunderland gutting 1-0 loss last year, with Johansen playing that False-9.
Once he axed that idea, we were better for it. This time, he needs to axe more than one of the ideas he's had.
It shows his guts, you could say - willing to experiment, to try things, when other managers would just play safe - and it's worked for him in the past.
He's trying to find a set up that works, with the players available. If his formation had worked on Saturday, he'd be a hero, and we did go one up, then equalise, but mistakes undid us again.
If we can get rid of the defensive errors, as the players get used to each other and build confidence, we could do well.
A win, even if a bit of luck is involved- a dodgy ref's decision going our way, an og, a mishit shot, will make all the difference. This squad could really do well, when it gets going, gets some fluidity and confidence.
Yes he can. But not if he thinks playing with non attacking wing backs for the first time against the worst side in the division was a good idea. Not if he thinks he can play a different back four every game is a good idea. Not if he plays Chambers as anything but a warning to others about how good Senderos really was.
Yes he can and he must. This isn't a fan fight between who wants him to go or leave. We all want success. There are no ulterior motives here from any Fulham fan. But we all know what is needed. It is no good just blaming the players or the transfers in.
Come on Coach show you can actually make a Prem side without it conceding a hat full of goals. We are all behind you. But frustration is having its way with many of us. Sort it out.
I said in a previous post regarding the defence do we have a specialized defence coach or does slav do most of it himself
I hope so but its going to be hard !
yes he can
Quote from: The old mucker on October 22, 2018, 04:31:23 PM
I said in a previous post regarding the defence do we have a specialized defence coach or does slav do most of it himself
If we don't it may be a good time to hire one.
How can you have chosen this moniker all the way back in 2012 when you joined the board? You must have had a premonition or is it possible to change your board thingy without re-setting your posts total? Re the OP. Yes - he can and will.
hope so.
Quote from: Lighthouse on October 22, 2018, 04:21:22 PM
Yes he can. But not if he thinks playing with non attacking wing backs for the first time against the worst side in the division was a good idea. Not if he thinks he can play a different back four every game is a good idea. Not if he plays Chambers as anything but a warning to others about how good Senderos really was.
Yes he can and he must. This isn't a fan fight between who wants him to go or leave. We all want success. There are no ulterior motives here from any Fulham fan. But we all know what is needed. It is no good just blaming the players or the transfers in.
Come on Coach show you can actually make a Prem side without it conceding a hat full of goals. We are all behind you. But frustration is having its way with many of us. Sort it out.
+1 - but his stubborness may be his undoing. His isn't just a little off, it looks as if he's lost the plot completely, and the system went from needing tinkering to a train wreck. They players can't do what is asked of them at the moment, so he is going to have to adapt to his players lack in confidence and ability and this is not an easy task.
Thing is, his style matches Chelsea or winning teams that dominate, not ours. I just don't know if he can find the right way with our current squad.
Quote from: Neil D on October 22, 2018, 06:14:11 PM
How can you have chosen this moniker all the way back in 2012 when you joined the board? You must have had a premonition or is it possible to change your board thingy without re-setting your posts total? Re the OP. Yes - he can and will.
Yes you can change your name by editing your profile. I've actually changed it twice. Originally it was about Mousa Dembele, hence the moose image.
I hope Slav can turn it around, for his sake, the clubs sake and all our sakes.
Will he turn it around ? That I am not quite sure about 100%, we have to be realistic.
If we only accumulate 5 points in the next 9 games, like the 5 points in the last 9 games, including more goals against.
That is half the season gone.
Then again a win on Saturday and a decent performance could change all that.
So I reckon we owe it to him to be given a chance to stop the rot.
But as each defeat goes by, and as each goal is conceded, it will only put him under more pressure.
It could be and should be a long hard week on the training ground for all and sundry.
Pressure is something all coaches that select teams is an ongoing thing and I hope ,he gets the chance.
Do I think he can? Yes.
I have a feeling that Joka knew that the team won't be performing well against Cardiff when he said pre-game that the match will not define their season.
His history have shown that he is the man to turn things around.
Just that, that time is not now.
Well he had better start getting his act together, and show some urgency, and make sure the players show some urgency, because the problems will not solve themselves, and he may not have as much time as he thinks, if there is no sign of any improvement in the next few games.
I want him to succeed, but only he can control that, and if some players have stopped playing for him because he has lost respect, then his job will be that much harder.
Obviously we are not party to what takes place behind closed doors, but there is certainly cause for concern, and we are possibly seeing the fallout.
Plus 1 Woolly.
I hate to say it but he needs to stop the bleeding. We give up 4 to a team that had scored 4 in the previous 8. Park the damn bus for God's sake. Use our outside speed and pump long balls and crosses to Mitro. Ugly football to be sure but we need points and I don't care how we get them.
If he is given 2 games like reported, then my answer is no:)
I'm not sure any manager is told by any chairman they have a small number of games to save there job.
Quote from: hovewhite on October 25, 2018, 07:14:31 AM
I'm not sure any manager is told by any chairman they have a small number of games to save their job.
I am pretty sure that in most cases you are right and it isn't just about winning games is it. It is more than that, perhaps something like the underlying ethos and morale of the whole camp compared to what an owner truly wants.
Interesting to note Pochettino's comments after the Champions League match last night which are very similar to what Jokanovic says when the hoped for doesn't appear and the end, accepting blame, and shielding individuals. In a sense, business at a new stadium is dependent upon a club doing well in the competitions that'll fill it up - all of them - and so Pochettino is reminding everyone that it is up to him to get results or else.
If ever there was manger who I want to be able to turn it around it is Slav. It is just 5 months since he gave us that unforgettable day at Wembley.
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Quote from: bog on October 25, 2018, 04:50:18 PM
If ever there was manger who I want to be able to turn it around it is Slav. It is just 5 months since he gave us that unforgettable day at Wembley.
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Exactly I agree 100% wholeheartedly, but Jok is not a manger, which is a trough on a farm for instance.
I can only imagine you mean a Manager which is someone who controls and directs and makes decisions, and delegates, and is responsible for the performance of a group of people and/or an Institution.
Thank you and Goodnight.
Off the ball, the team gets overrun. Players don't look like they know where they should be or what they should do when the opponent is attacking.
I'm not sure if Slav will be able to figure out how to fix that part of his scheme without the help of a defensive minded coach.
I think he's earned the chance to try though. I'm not one for getting rid of a coach that got the team promoted the year before. He needs better players. (defensive minded)
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 25, 2018, 06:45:09 PM
Quote from: bog on October 25, 2018, 04:50:18 PM
If ever there was manger who I want to be able to turn it around it is Slav. It is just 5 months since he gave us that unforgettable day at Wembley.
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Exactly I agree 100% wholeheartedly, but Jok is not a manger, which is a trough on a farm for instance.
I can only imagine you mean a Manager which is someone who controls and directs and makes decisions, and delegates, and is responsible for the performance of a group of people and/or an Institution.
Thank you and Goodnight.
Lol. I was never any gawd at speeling.
Thank you and stop pinching my lines..... :022:
Quote from: bog on October 25, 2018, 08:56:47 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 25, 2018, 06:45:09 PM
Quote from: bog on October 25, 2018, 04:50:18 PM
If ever there was manger who I want to be able to turn it around it is Slav. It is just 5 months since he gave us that unforgettable day at Wembley.
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Exactly I agree 100% wholeheartedly, but Jok is not a manger, which is a trough on a farm for instance.
I can only imagine you mean a Manager which is someone who controls and directs and makes decisions, and delegates, and is responsible for the performance of a group of people and/or an Institution.
Thank you and Goodnight.
Lol. I was never any gawd at speeling.
Thank you and stop pinching my lines..... :022:
I apologise, but I just couldn't resist it.
Two games, four points
I still believe. Come on Slav!
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 25, 2018, 09:42:44 PM
Quote from: bog on October 25, 2018, 08:56:47 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on October 25, 2018, 06:45:09 PM
Quote from: bog on October 25, 2018, 04:50:18 PM
If ever there was manger who I want to be able to turn it around it is Slav. It is just 5 months since he gave us that unforgettable day at Wembley.
092.gif
Exactly I agree 100% wholeheartedly, but Jok is not a manger, which is a trough on a farm for instance.
I can only imagine you mean a Manager which is someone who controls and directs and makes decisions, and delegates, and is responsible for the performance of a group of people and/or an Institution.
Thank you and Goodnight.
Lol. I was never any gawd at speeling.
Thank you and stop pinching my lines..... :022:
I apologise, but I just couldn't resist it.
I would have dun just the sayme.
Thank you and good mourning :022:
Quote from: Matt10 on October 22, 2018, 04:02:53 PM
Sunderland gutting 1-0 loss last year, with Johansen playing that False-9.
Once he axed that idea, we were better for it. This time, he needs to axe more than one of the ideas he's had.
The results are much worse than they were in the first half of last season and now there has to be an improvement well before Christmas. The big change last season was the introduction of Targett and Mitrovic after Christmas, can't see anything like that happening this season
We have been beaten by teams throughout the league, all managers now know the tactics to employ to match ours and also have players capable of implementing these tactics.
Jocanovic has just about tried all of his players and he cant bring any more in at least until January, Jocanovic has to implement a change to our tactics if we are to challenge any team.
The only other thing that may give us a win here and there is the return of a fit Cairney.
Quote from: filham on October 26, 2018, 12:31:46 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on October 22, 2018, 04:02:53 PM
Sunderland gutting 1-0 loss last year, with Johansen playing that False-9.
Once he axed that idea, we were better for it. This time, he needs to axe more than one of the ideas he's had.
The results are much worse than they were in the first half of last season and now there has to be an improvement well before Christmas. The big change last season was the introduction of Targett and Mitrovic after Christmas, can't see anything like that happening this season
I agree, the goals conceded have been absurd. Even when we were in bad shape last year, we were still competing at least.
Unfortunately, I do not think just the signing of 1 or 2 players is the answer this go-around. It's a deeper problem, and it's intangible, something that needs to be motivated to get out of their scared systems.
I think Ream's interview will help those who know its purpose, and Slav's comments in the press conference solidifies things. I'd also say Johansen's remarks about it's not the defenders only that are having issues, it's defending as a team as a whole. Haven't seen anyone say that, figures it's from him.
People talking about starting Rico over Betts to me is a bit more of a sign of the "try this, try that" mentality that even Slav is getting complacent with. Hopefully we see some consistency in the lineup, and all that changes is they aren't playing afraid to make mistake ball.
Think the worst thing anyone can do is make whole sale changes defensively every week and I'm hoping he now picks a back 4 and lets them gel for a run of games as the front 3 in general have been the most consistent part of the team who have proved that stick with the 3 has been effective so could do with a settled back 4.
Consistency in selection is the key, there are no short cuts.
This area is where Slav has made errors of judgement, which is reflected not only in individual mistakes, but also as a defensive unit.
Hence the reason why poor performance has run in conjunction with the team displays and the goals against collumn.
Which is why I cannot see where the next clean sheet is coming from.
I hope Slav can turn this around but it 50/50 for me.
I think the problem he might have is the dressing room will turn agaist him.
If it does he's finished and it'll be really quick.
