Has anyone heard the rumours about a bust up at the training ground, apparently he was told to pack up his stuff and go. Now this just a rumour and I have no facts whatsoever.
I am not reading too much into this as have not seen it in any media outlets, I would not have thought that it was something you could keep quiet.
That would be the last thing we need. One of our few effective attacking players.
Today's line up may give some idea..... :022:
Again it's just a rumour but he apparently gives it very large at the training ground, but to be honest I'm not so sure.
I am glad you started this.... i just saw a thread on facebook but nowhere else can i find anything.
He didn't come on v oldham and was the obvious man to upset them so maybe there is something in it.
fighting love it, a bit of passion from the lads at last, shame they didn't show any against Oldham
Oh no, we can well do without something like that, Kamara is needed to add fight and pace alongside Mitrovic.
Quote from: nose on January 12, 2019, 10:28:45 AM
I am glad you started this.... i just saw a thread on facebook but nowhere else can i find anything.
He didn't come on v oldham and was the obvious man to upset them so maybe there is something in it.
I have just had a look on FB and that's what my mate told me on the phone so I guess that's where he got it from.
I reckon just someone stirring things.
He's not in any of the photos of 'preparations' for the game on the clubs website?
Everyone except the injured Mawson & Angussia are there?
Total disaster for our hopes of staying up
Who know if it is true, but people "in the know" do not post things without reason
I think AK47 would be targetted by Burnley as a guy to be easily wound up with a view to getting him sent off , Dyche is a master of the dark arts .
Quote from: alfie on January 12, 2019, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: nose on January 12, 2019, 10:28:45 AM
I am glad you started this.... i just saw a thread on facebook but nowhere else can i find anything.
He didn't come on v oldham and was the obvious man to upset them so maybe there is something in it.
I have just had a look on FB and that's what my mate told me on the phone so I guess that's where he got it from.
I reckon just someone stirring things.
I think you know me well enough to say i am on very thin ice with my nerves... this sort of thing doesn't help. If it is true it would be better if we really knew if it was a one off incident or if he is gone for good or just the whispering game gone crazy.... the game will be tough enough.
Let's really hope there's nothing to it, don't need any off field drama.
Quote from: nose on January 12, 2019, 11:41:51 AM
Quote from: alfie on January 12, 2019, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: nose on January 12, 2019, 10:28:45 AM
I am glad you started this.... i just saw a thread on facebook but nowhere else can i find anything.
He didn't come on v oldham and was the obvious man to upset them so maybe there is something in it.
I have just had a look on FB and that's what my mate told me on the phone so I guess that's where he got it from.
I reckon just someone stirring things.
I think you know me well enough to say i am on very thin ice with my nerves... this sort of thing doesn't help. If it is true it would be better if we really knew if it was a one off incident or if he is gone for good or just the whispering game gone crazy.... the game will be tough enough.
Chill out Mr Nose, don't let it get to you, it's only a game of football, if it's true then there is bugger we can do.
Quote from: alfie on January 12, 2019, 11:47:32 AM
Quote from: nose on January 12, 2019, 11:41:51 AM
Quote from: alfie on January 12, 2019, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: nose on January 12, 2019, 10:28:45 AM
I am glad you started this.... i just saw a thread on facebook but nowhere else can i find anything.
He didn't come on v oldham and was the obvious man to upset them so maybe there is something in it.
I have just had a look on FB and that's what my mate told me on the phone so I guess that's where he got it from.
I reckon just someone stirring things.
I think you know me well enough to say i am on very thin ice with my nerves... this sort of thing doesn't help. If it is true it would be better if we really knew if it was a one off incident or if he is gone for good or just the whispering game gone crazy.... the game will be tough enough.
Chill out Mr Nose, don't let it get to you, it's only a game of football, if it's true then there is bugger we can do.
Whoever comes in will have a point to prove - and who knows?
Maybe the penalty incident has caused more problems than we thought and hasn't been dealt with.
Maybe it's just a non event, not going to take much notice as only a rumour.
I think we'll quickly find out if this rumour is true. We just have to wait for the team sheet, if Kamara is in the starting eleven or on the bench this rumour is false, if he's not in the team then the rumour is probably true(unless Kamara is injured)
Completely illogical why CR didn't bring him on v Oldham in place of Vietto for so many reasons - was CR making a point ?
Quote from: alfie on January 12, 2019, 11:47:32 AM
Quote from: nose on January 12, 2019, 11:41:51 AM
Quote from: alfie on January 12, 2019, 11:00:04 AM
Quote from: nose on January 12, 2019, 10:28:45 AM
I am glad you started this.... i just saw a thread on facebook but nowhere else can i find anything.
He didn't come on v oldham and was the obvious man to upset them so maybe there is something in it.
I have just had a look on FB and that's what my mate told me on the phone so I guess that's where he got it from.
I reckon just someone stirring things.
thank you for the sensible post and i wish over the years that was possible but as you know I am a long term inmateand when I see things that seem to be wrong or as spock would say 'illogical' (and I am watching reruns of the original star trek at the moment on the Horror channel) I tend to .... let my frustration boil over. I am actually quite a calm sensible person otherwise...... Looking forward to the match now so we shall soon find out the truth.
I think you know me well enough to say i am on very thin ice with my nerves... this sort of thing doesn't help. If it is true it would be better if we really knew if it was a one off incident or if he is gone for good or just the whispering game gone crazy.... the game will be tough enough.
Chill out Mr Nose, don't let it get to you, it's only a game of football, if it's true then there is bugger we can do.
Quote from: bill taylors apprentice on January 12, 2019, 11:02:18 AM
He's not in any of the photos of 'preparations' for the game on the clubs website?
Everyone except the injured Mawson & Angussia are there?
Good observation, makes me think there's something in this rumour
Just went through the pictures and I can see Schurrle, Bettinelli, Chambers, Seri, Cisse, Christie, Ream, Odoi, Fabri, Ayite, MLM, Fosu-Mensah, Kebano, both Sessegnons, Vietto, Bryan, McDonald, Mitrovic, Rico, Johansen and Cairney... It would be a bloody big coincidence if they just didn't get a snap of Kamara!!!
It's probably rumours started by old Colin at Cardiff after Liverpool shafted them. No point spreading this stuff. You'll see today it's a load of poo when he's on the team sheet
Kamara probably took the photos, that is why he is not in the photos
He was in the video of Cairney playing pool Agaisnt jimmy white.
I suspect CR wants him gone, he's not prem standard, yes he makes a nuisance but he lacks greatly and we need to have better than him. Think it shows the poor squad depth that he is being called upon to start when last year people said he was out of his depth in the championship
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 12, 2019, 12:31:50 PM
Kamara probably took the photos, that is why he is not in the photos
He was actually at the time of the photo being taken,in my hideout at Motspur having a chat with me about penalties... He did share his Bounty bar with me.😉
Would have been leaked to the media by now if there was any substance.
Wasn't it Schurrle that was accused the last time one of these daft rumours cicrculated?
Next there will be one about Cahill/Drinkwater/Moses getting a tour of the training ground, ooops!
Kamara may be an absolute idiot, and a headless chicken, but he has to play if hes available and fit. Hes the only person in the team with a bitta spark and unpredictability about him. We look way more dangerous with him in the team than with Vietto (the invisible man) or Schurlle (Slow/Greedy).
He was the last player in the changing rooms & the security guard wanted to lock up so told AK to pack up his things & leave.
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 12, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
He was in the video of Cairney playing pool Agaisnt jimmy white.
I suspect CR wants him gone, he's not prem standard, yes he makes a nuisance but he lacks greatly and we need to have better than him. Think it shows the poor squad depth that he is being called upon to start when last year people said he was out of his depth in the championship
cr isn't stupid, surely he would want vietto and schurrle gone before ak
Quote from: fulhamben on January 12, 2019, 01:04:50 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 12, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
He was in the video of Cairney playing pool Agaisnt jimmy white.
I suspect CR wants him gone, he's not prem standard, yes he makes a nuisance but he lacks greatly and we need to have better than him. Think it shows the poor squad depth that he is being called upon to start when last year people said he was out of his depth in the championship
cr isn't stupid, surely he would want vietto and schurrle gone before ak
Vietto yes, Schurrle is bar far one of the most gifted players in our squad, problem is he is used to not having to defend. Is the back and midfield was tightened up then it would allow Schürrle to play to his full potential
Schurrle - I agree that he should only be attacking - but he has to defend the wings/channels because team not good enough....
and with Vietto, TC and (dare I say) RS not defending enough, we can't afford luxury
Bad enough Mitro is the best defensive header we have at corners
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 12, 2019, 12:38:47 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 12, 2019, 12:31:50 PM
Kamara probably took the photos, that is why he is not in the photos
He was actually at the time of the photo being taken,in my hideout at Motspur having a chat with me about penalties... He did share his Bounty bar with me.😉
Are you in your Shed at Motspur Park Mince.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 12, 2019, 01:22:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 12, 2019, 12:38:47 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 12, 2019, 12:31:50 PM
Kamara probably took the photos, that is why he is not in the photos
He was actually at the time of the photo being taken,in my hideout at Motspur having a chat with me about penalties... He did share his Bounty bar with me.😉
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Are you in your Shed at Motspur Park Mince.
He is a secret employee of Burnley, spying on training even though they are not there, and no one will notice his shed.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 12, 2019, 01:22:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 12, 2019, 12:38:47 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 12, 2019, 12:31:50 PM
Kamara probably took the photos, that is why he is not in the photos
He was actually at the time of the photo being taken,in my hideout at Motspur having a chat with me about penalties... He did share his Bounty bar with me.😉
Are you in your Shed at Motspur Park Mince.
No just a tarpaulin hung over the bushes.😨
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 12, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
He was in the video of Cairney playing pool Agaisnt jimmy white.
Think that was filmed in November, just been released now because the Dafabet Masters starts tomorrow
Quote from: Statto on January 12, 2019, 01:27:47 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 12, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
He was in the video of Cairney playing pool Agaisnt jimmy white.
Think that was filmed in November, just been released now because the Dafabet Masters starts tomorrow
Fair enough, Jimmy looked rather healthy in that video I must say.
No Kamara in the squad. Looks like runours may well be true
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 12, 2019, 02:01:06 PM
No Kamara in the squad. Looks like runours may well be true
Either the rumours are true or he is injured. Sadly the first one sounds more likely as CR said there aren't any new injuries.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on January 12, 2019, 02:02:35 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 12, 2019, 02:01:06 PM
No Kamara in the squad. Looks like runours may well be true
Either the rumours are true or he is injured. Sadly the first one sounds more likely as CR said there aren't any new injuries.
to be fair, he has lied about injuries before in press conferences, but honestly if true, I'd rather keep kamara over raneri
Until we know what went on we can only speculate.
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Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 12, 2019, 02:08:07 PM
Until we know what went on we can only speculate.
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To accumulate you have to speculate.
He's been a naughty boy and he isn't getting out to play.
Who leaked the story, was it a journalist or just some random on Twitter, does anyone have the original post?
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 12, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
He was in the video of Cairney playing pool Agaisnt jimmy white.
I suspect CR wants him gone, he's not prem standard, yes he makes a nuisance but he lacks greatly and we need to have better than him. Think it shows the poor squad depth that he is being called upon to start when last year people said he was out of his depth in the championship
I was also thinking this. People much preferred Piazon, Ayite and even Kebano last season than Kamara
Kamara is our version of Ballotelli !!
BUt Kamara also has some skill
Quote from: mikecdawg-ffc on January 12, 2019, 02:22:50 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 12, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
He was in the video of Cairney playing pool Agaisnt jimmy white.
I suspect CR wants him gone, he's not prem standard, yes he makes a nuisance but he lacks greatly and we need to have better than him. Think it shows the poor squad depth that he is being called upon to start when last year people said he was out of his depth in the championship
I was also thinking this. People much preferred Piazon, Ayite and even Kebano last season than Kamara
Not as simple as that IMO. We are sitting back and looking to break quickly this season. Last season we spent most of most games camped in the attacking half playing short passes. Kamara's main asset is pace and that just wasn't useful with those tactics, whereas in our current system, it is.
Quote from: bornafulhamfan on January 12, 2019, 02:02:35 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 12, 2019, 02:01:06 PM
No Kamara in the squad. Looks like runours may well be true
Either the rumours are true or he is injured. Sadly the first one sounds more likely as CR said there aren't any new injuries.
No mention of him being injured in the press preview, AK on his way out, best to stick with our squad of non triers that will guarantee relegation and save money being spent in the window!
i imagine the bust up went along the lines of " why is it i run my socks off when i play , get stuck in and yet schurrle , vietto , seri all get picked ahead of me " . if it was , he has a point .
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 12, 2019, 02:17:31 PM
He's been a naughty boy and he isn't getting out to play.
Just another nail in our coffin, not many more to go now!
Quote from: Statto on January 12, 2019, 02:25:29 PM
Quote from: mikecdawg-ffc on January 12, 2019, 02:22:50 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 12, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
He was in the video of Cairney playing pool Agaisnt jimmy white.
I suspect CR wants him gone, he's not prem standard, yes he makes a nuisance but he lacks greatly and we need to have better than him. Think it shows the poor squad depth that he is being called upon to start when last year people said he was out of his depth in the championship
I was also thinking this. People much preferred Piazon, Ayite and even Kebano last season than Kamara
Not as simple as that IMO. We are sitting back and looking to break quickly this season. Last season we spent most of most games camped in the attacking half playing short passes. Kamara's main asset is pace and that just wasn't useful with those tactics, whereas in our current system, it is.
I agree, neither AK nor Ayite/ Kebano etc. are necessarily all that convincing at prem level so it's about which o e fits best into our current style and tactics.
I take back everything i said about Schurlle
Quote from: rusty shackleford on January 12, 2019, 03:04:29 PM
I take back everything i said about Schurlle
i don't, scored in the first minute and hasn't touches it again since. Same old schurrle
Great goal but since that Schurlie has done nothing.
Quote from: Luka on January 12, 2019, 03:53:03 PM
Great goal but since that Schurlie has done nothing.
that has been his whole season, odd goal followed by being a passenger for the large majority of the time he has been on the pitch
Quote from: Luka on January 12, 2019, 03:53:03 PM
Great goal but since that Schurlie has done nothing.
Except he cleared our lines twice in the first half in crucial moments. Tackled McNeil several times, albeit looked stupid on one dribble by the youngster. Schurrle had a good match.
Quote from: Matt10 on January 12, 2019, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: Luka on January 12, 2019, 03:53:03 PM
Great goal but since that Schurlie has done nothing.
Except he cleared our lines twice in the first half in crucial moments. Tackled McNeil several times, albeit looked stupid on one dribble by the youngster. Schurrle had a good match.
By previous standards maybe, by the standard that is required no he didn't! Sorry Matt.
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Quote from: Matt10 on January 12, 2019, 05:03:36 PM
Quote from: Luka on January 12, 2019, 03:53:03 PM
Great goal but since that Schurlie has done nothing.
Except he cleared our lines twice in the first half in crucial moments. Tackled McNeil several times, albeit looked stupid on one dribble by the youngster. Schurrle had a good match.
By previous standards maybe, by the standard that is required no he didn't! Sorry Matt.
Meh, he showed how to clear the lines which our defenders, including Sess btw, failed to do. They all clear right down the middle, keeping Burnley in possession.
A point mentioned on Facebook but not here (unless I've missed it) was the other person involved in the incident was Johansen, who apparently has been suspended.
It's a moot point imo: so what? Its probably true, he's about as petulant as they come, but again who cares?
I mean we are going down with or without AK47. So if he is a poison/bad apple in the dressing room (which body language says is the case), should we not send him to the curb or maybe get some cash to help pay for our promotion bid next season? Plan for the Championship I say. Bye-bye AK. 092.gif
Get rid of him. He's a liability. A red card waiting to happen. Yes he's fast and can score and all that but I am sick of the attitude. Hate the way he sulks when he gets subbed off. Its all about him and he showed it with the penalty incident. I couldn't forgive him for that and it was the last straw from me. I think he is intellectually limited.
Christ if we are pinning our hopes of staying up on the likes of Kamara you might as well get the cpr equipment out.
We will need Kamara next season if we get relegated. Keep him so he can gain more maturity.
Quote from: the nutflush on January 13, 2019, 06:35:34 AM
Get rid of him. He's a liability. A red card waiting to happen. Yes he's fast and can score and all that but I am sick of the attitude. Hate the way he sulks when he gets subbed off. Its all about him and he showed it with the penalty incident. I couldn't forgive him for that and it was the last straw from me. I think he is intellectually limited.
Christ if we are pinning our hopes of staying up on the likes of Kamara you might as well get the cpr equipment out.
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Not that i am disagreeing but saha, boa and steed threw themselves to the floor every time the wind changed direction, especially boa and saha... i do not recall anyone giving them stick for it save for me.
I hate the cheating and he is a loose canon but unlike some of the others his heart is in it and his effort tremendous.
Personally i do not thin ak is good enough, but he is better than most of the rest of them save foir sess and mitro who are being miisused by CR.
Quote from: the nutflush on January 13, 2019, 06:35:34 AM
Get rid of him. He's a liability. A red card waiting to happen. Yes he's fast and can score and all that but I am sick of the attitude. Hate the way he sulks when he gets subbed off. Its all about him and he showed it with the penalty incident. I couldn't forgive him for that and it was the last straw from me. I think he is intellectually limited.
Christ if we are pinning our hopes of staying up on the likes of Kamara you might as well get the cpr equipment out.
Yes because it worked so well without him yesterday.
I'm in a minority here and I like bad boys like myself that live and die by the sword and he offers more directness than schurrle and gives 110% every time he plays and yes we also need some nastiness on the pitch after all Claudio has told sess to be more nasty on the pitch.
Quote from: hovewhite on January 13, 2019, 09:38:09 AM
I'm in a minority here and I like bad boys like myself that live and die by the sword and he offers more directness than schurrle and gives 110% every time he plays and yes we also need some nastiness on the pitch after all Claudio has told sess to be more nasty on the pitch.
We don't know what happened with Kamara though, it must have been something serious for the actions taken.
He refused to give Claudio his last Rolo apparently.💃
Blimey how things change. Two weeks ago "he should never wear the shirt again"and now people are concerned he might have left the club!!!!
How fickle we are. As for me, don't give a toss whether he stays or goes. I'm a bit Fulhamish.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 13, 2019, 09:54:44 AM
He refused to give Claudio his last Rolo apparently.💃
That is so selfish
This started with the penalty incident but I think within the club spirit wise under Claudio it's been smoothed over but the spirit is toxic and that can't be repaired this season and just maybe a fresh start in the championship next season is needed getting rid of the big money guys under a young coach playing our rich talent in the academy like O'Riley ,Steve sess,kait, Humphreys along side Stef Jo ,Kev Mac, Mawson,Bryan,Christie.AK
The young coach,Scott Parker.
We will NOT be in the Champioship next season.
We have to be one of 3 out of the 6 that are down there.
Don't worry Roger we will be. Yesterday just put the rubber stamp on it. It will be interesting to know if there will be any announcement regarding AK. Surely if his behaviour is that reprehensible Fulham could terminate his contract?
Quote from: rogerpnowinFlorida on January 13, 2019, 01:20:15 PM
We will NOT be in the Champioship next season.
We have to be one of 3 out of the 6 that are down there.
I agree far to early to write us off yet.
I would agree if it was just a matter of the amount of games left to be played and mathematics if we were competing in every game but we're not. I shouldn't have muddied my reply, or this thread by responding to Rogers post. I just wanted to know if there were any updates on the AK situation.
According to twitter kamara and Johanson has fight in training and both have been told they can leave, Ak training with the under 23's.
Make of it what you will
why would those 2 fight. The penalty fiasco was nothing to do with Johason was it? Maybe there was previous as they played together last year also.
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Quote from: Berserker on January 14, 2019, 06:49:30 PM
why would those 2 fight. The penalty fiasco was nothing to do with Johason was it? Maybe there was previous as they played together last year also.
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Not a scooby but judging Stefjo tackles in games if he dropped one on Ak I can't imagine Aka holds back
Maybe it's a touch of the Baird/Bullards
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 14, 2019, 06:54:58 PM
Quote from: Berserker on January 14, 2019, 06:49:30 PM
why would those 2 fight. The penalty fiasco was nothing to do with Johason was it? Maybe there was previous as they played together last year also.
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Not a scooby but judging Stefjo tackles in games if he dropped one on Ak I can't imagine Aka holds back
Exactly the scenario that popped in my head when I first read the rumor. Neither particularly happy with things. One has a rush of blood in the moment and makes a mistake and things pop off.
Unsure why they would be told to leave over it. Got to be much more to it than just a scuffle.
What feed was that under on Twitter Devon?
Quote from: Fulham 442 on January 14, 2019, 06:59:54 PM
What feed was that under on Twitter Devon?
I just read it on twitter as white noise commented or retweeted it.
I wouldn't say it was legit or someone who works for the club but it's the closed thing I've read to what actually happened
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 14, 2019, 07:20:09 PM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on January 14, 2019, 06:59:54 PM
What feed was that under on Twitter Devon?
I just read it on twitter as white noise commented or retweeted it.
I wouldn't say it was legit or someone who works for the club but it's the closed thing I've read to what actually happened
How is that possible if you don't know what happened?
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Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 14, 2019, 07:47:38 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 14, 2019, 07:20:09 PM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on January 14, 2019, 06:59:54 PM
What feed was that under on Twitter Devon?
I just read it on twitter as white noise commented or retweeted it.
I wouldn't say it was legit or someone who works for the club but it's the closed thing I've read to what actually happened
How is that possible if you don't know what happened?
FYI white noise was a well respected poster on here, I have not known him to ever have made something up.
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Quote from: hovewhite on January 13, 2019, 10:07:27 AM
This started with the penalty incident but I think within the club spirit wise under Claudio it's been smoothed over but the spirit is toxic and that can't be repaired this season and just maybe a fresh start in the championship next season is needed getting rid of the big money guys under a young coach playing our rich talent in the academy like O'Riley ,Steve sess,kait, Humphreys along side Stef Jo ,Kev Mac, Mawson,Bryan,Christie.AK
The young coach,Scott Parker.
Hmmm... get a new manager, get rid of the older big money players. Give the young kids a chance in the Championship.
Sounds so familiar. Pass.
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Quote from: AnOldBrownie on January 14, 2019, 07:47:38 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 14, 2019, 07:20:09 PM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on January 14, 2019, 06:59:54 PM
What feed was that under on Twitter Devon?
I just read it on twitter as white noise commented or retweeted it.
I wouldn't say it was legit or someone who works for the club but it's the closed thing I've read to what actually happened
How is that possible if you don't know what happened?
FYI white noise was a well respected poster on here, I have not known him to ever have made something up.
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As I said numb nuts. If white noise tweets it then I'm tempted to believe it but cannot take it as gospel.
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/8194487/fulham-mitrovic-kamara-dragged-apart-yoga/
