Newcastle now 2-0
Saints 2-0
palace equalize.... burnley getting an away point...
Quote from: ffcne on January 19, 2019, 04:23:31 PM
Newcastle now 2-0
Saints 2-0
We're 7 points from safety, and can have 0 complaints about that. Fully deserve to be where we are.
It just tells us what we already know. We refreshed our parachute payments and that's all.
The games this weekend show how far off the pace we have been. Need to go down, sell off under performers if we can, get a solid team, and get immediate promtoik back up.
Not too bothered. I've said for weeks it's between us Newcastle and Cardiff for the final 2 relegation spots. Draw would have been best but we couldn't have a Cardiff win so it could be worse.
Quote from: OhConnah on January 19, 2019, 04:27:40 PM
The games this weekend show how far off the pace we have been. Need to go down, sell off under performers if we can, get a solid team, and get immediate promtoik back up.
Easy peezy
Quote from: Fulham76 on January 19, 2019, 04:29:27 PM
Quote from: OhConnah on January 19, 2019, 04:27:40 PM
The games this weekend show how far off the pace we have been. Need to go down, sell off under performers if we can, get a solid team, and get immediate promtoik back up.
Easy peezy
By no means easy, but with Kahn's money and parachute payments... to not make a genuine Go of it would be folly. Let's see if we can do it.
We have to hope that we stay in touch with 4th bottom and hit our run st the right time 🙏
I can see us and Cardiff getting left adrift with the Terriers and it all over within 2 weeks. Saints and Toon getting back in their stride, Palace standing toe-toe with Plod, even Burnley who are shocking will grind their way to a draw at Watford
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We've got a hope of staying up,that's no hope.😠
Quote from: YoungsBitter on January 19, 2019, 04:46:38 PM
I can see us and Cardiff getting left adrift with the Terriers and it all over within 2 weeks. Saints and Toon getting back in their stride, Palace standing toe-toe with Plod, even Burnley who are shocking will grind their way to a draw at Watford
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Newcastle are playing Cardiff hardly the best opponents. They will struggle against better teams as we all will down here. Just got to show some guys and fight.
How important could that last game of the season at home to Newcastle be
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 04:53:55 PM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on January 19, 2019, 04:46:38 PM
I can see us and Cardiff getting left adrift with the Terriers and it all over within 2 weeks. Saints and Toon getting back in their stride, Palace standing toe-toe with Plod, even Burnley who are shocking will grind their way to a draw at Watford
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Newcastle are playing Cardiff hardly the best opponents. They will struggle against better teams as we all will down here. Just got to show some guys and fight.
How important could that last game of the season at home to Newcastle be
Sorry Devon ,We will be long gone by then.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 19, 2019, 04:53:21 PM
We've got a hope of staying up,that's no hope.😠
We think it is all over, almost certainly is now, only 7 points behind 17th place, I will be surprised if we get another 7 points this season!
Lets hope none of our potential new signings take a look on here.
Win tomorrow and its game on
Quote from: ffcne on January 19, 2019, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 04:53:55 PM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on January 19, 2019, 04:46:38 PM
I can see us and Cardiff getting left adrift with the Terriers and it all over within 2 weeks. Saints and Toon getting back in their stride, Palace standing toe-toe with Plod, even Burnley who are shocking will grind their way to a draw at Watford
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Newcastle are playing Cardiff hardly the best opponents. They will struggle against better teams as we all will down here. Just got to show some guys and fight.
How important could that last game of the season at home to Newcastle be
Sorry Devon ,We will be long gone by then.
You hope, so you can get the Khan bearing stick out.
Still plenty of points to play for
These results have put a big dent in the mood for tomorrow's fixture. Even a win would scarcely improve our prospects of survival.
Your right Devon lots of points to play for,shame we want get many of them.
Quote from: ffcne on January 19, 2019, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 04:53:55 PM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on January 19, 2019, 04:46:38 PM
I can see us and Cardiff getting left adrift with the Terriers and it all over within 2 weeks. Saints and Toon getting back in their stride, Palace standing toe-toe with Plod, even Burnley who are shocking will grind their way to a draw at Watford
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Newcastle are playing Cardiff hardly the best opponents. They will struggle against better teams as we all will down here. Just got to show some guys and fight.
How important could that last game of the season at home to Newcastle be
Sorry Devon ,We will be long gone by then.
+1
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:00:13 PM
Quote from: ffcne on January 19, 2019, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 04:53:55 PM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on January 19, 2019, 04:46:38 PM
I can see us and Cardiff getting left adrift with the Terriers and it all over within 2 weeks. Saints and Toon getting back in their stride, Palace standing toe-toe with Plod, even Burnley who are shocking will grind their way to a draw at Watford
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Newcastle are playing Cardiff hardly the best opponents. They will struggle against better teams as we all will down here. Just got to show some guys and fight.
How important could that last game of the season at home to Newcastle be
Sorry Devon ,We will be long gone by then.
You hope, so you can get the Khan bearing stick out.
Still plenty of points to play for
Who mentioned Khan?
Just facing facts
We are not good enough to stay in this division.
Of course would love to be proven wrong.
Alas I feel our run had to start on Boxing Day and with even more fine tuning inevitable even playing with a settled side, a game plan and the desire required seems a few games away yet.......... and then comes February. Ouch. No matter how many times I look at the fixtures involving the bottom five I cannot see where, on current form, we will secure two wins on the bounce whilst all the others in the mix lose those corresponding fixtures and that is just for parity. As has been said it's was between us, Saints, Newcastle, Cardiff and Burnley at 2.59 today. With no points expected tomorrow it already looks like it has thinned out to us, Cardiff and Burnley highlighting what a difference one round of fixtures can make. The debate about the reinforcements required from 1st January and key personnel changes being left too long thus continues.
Oh god.
Now that's what I call vuvuzelas are starting up
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 19, 2019, 05:04:06 PM
Your right Devon lots of points to play for,shame we want get many of them.
Quote from: davew on January 19, 2019, 04:59:58 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 19, 2019, 04:53:21 PM
We've got a hope of staying up,that's no hope.😠
We think it is all over, almost certainly is now, only 7 points behind 17th place, I will be surprised if we get another 7 points this season!
It's really 8 points adrift with our goal difference. I think it is time to start planning for the Championship. Only 14 points so far and now 8 points away from safety
Don't Panic, we have an easy March to look forward to 🤢🤢
Quote from: ffcne on January 19, 2019, 05:04:44 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:00:13 PM
Quote from: ffcne on January 19, 2019, 04:58:39 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 04:53:55 PM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on January 19, 2019, 04:46:38 PM
I can see us and Cardiff getting left adrift with the Terriers and it all over within 2 weeks. Saints and Toon getting back in their stride, Palace standing toe-toe with Plod, even Burnley who are shocking will grind their way to a draw at Watford
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Newcastle are playing Cardiff hardly the best opponents. They will struggle against better teams as we all will down here. Just got to show some guys and fight.
How important could that last game of the season at home to Newcastle be
Sorry Devon ,We will be long gone by then.
You hope, so you can get the Khan bearing stick out.
Still plenty of points to play for
Whose mentioned Khan?
Just facing facts
We are not good enough to stay in this division.
Of course would love to be proven wrong.
Sorry to put Khan into it but reading this board most posters seem to restore to bashing them where they can.
The result at Burnley was Lady Luck not on our side, another day and the league could look so different.
Let's see what the future holds but until we have the R next to our name on the table let's still believe
Quote from: Facts Not Fiction on January 19, 2019, 04:25:27 PM
Quote from: ffcne on January 19, 2019, 04:23:31 PM
Newcastle now 2-0
Saints 2-0
We're 7 points from safety, and can have 0 complaints about that. Fully deserve to be where we are.
Yep, fully deserved, unfortunately. 14 -17 making some space now from where we sit, survival is a pipe dream.......
Do me a favour - stay up - 0% chance
We have 14 points and it's nearly February
Absolutely shocking management from top to bottom
SJ to be blamed as well for unsettling the club over his contract demands
Crap players bought
No passion or effort from nearly all of them
No planning by the management - no team philosophy
Blah blah - I almost can't be bothered to go tomorrow except it will be the only time in a few years to watch Spurs at CC
Disjointed unbalanced team with no depth and definitely no fight and people still believe - .... no way the current squad and manager replicate the Roy Hodgson great escape.
Can't keep hoping against hope that the losing teams keep on losing. That math ain't gonna work for us. At some point, FFC has to start earning some points. Simple as that. And I just don't see that coming.
Effectively 8 points from safety little quality and zero battling qualities = relegated
The only pragmatic course of action in the long term interests of the club is to prepare for the championship and ensure we're in good order to challenge next season. If we get any bids for wasters like Anguissa or Seri then get rid now.
It gets wore by the week and it can only get better if we win a few games. Difficult to visualise a Fulham win right now.
If we win tomorrow does the mood of this board change?
I hope so otherwise I fear some may be on the blower to the Samaritans
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:34:24 PM
If we win tomorrow does the mood of this board change?
I hope so otherwise I fear some may be on the blower to the Samaritans
We won't be beating Spurs, sorry, not even if they've got 4 out, what makes it even worse, is that it's on Sky again, so our embarrassments in front of the general public continues.
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:34:24 PM
If we win tomorrow does the mood of this board change?
I hope so otherwise I fear some may be on the blower to the Samaritans
I've been trying to get through for an hour,all phones have Fulham fans on them.
Things can change quickly in football.
If we do not win tomorrow I fear the writing will be on the wall. Be hard to catch up, but I am stubborn enough not to surrender, I just hope the players don't either.
Unfortunately you reap what you sow, not forgetting poor judgement from the recruitment unit, and the consequences of a poor preseason and inadequate preparation, mediocre organisation, and jumping out of the frying pan into the fire by sacking the wrong man at the time, that's my opinion, but despite all that my instinct will not allow me to surrender.
I think the premier league has found its bottom 3.
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
Edit- I'm NOTstarting a debate of who is a bigger fan and attends more games just the attitude of some ofur fans in accepting defat before it's certain
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 19, 2019, 05:46:01 PM
If we do not win tomorrow I fear the writing will be on the wall. Be hard to catch up, but I am stubborn enough not to surrender, I just hope the players don't either.
Unfortunately you reap what you sow, not forgetting poor judgement from the recruitment unit, and the consequences of a poor preseason and inadequate preparation, mediocre organisation, and jumping out of the frying pan into the fire by sacking the wrong man at the time, that's my opinion, but despite all that my instinct will not allow me to surrender.
I admire your optimism. That said, what has this club shown you that inspires? We've seen a lot of disappointing results, and losses/draws in games that should have been won (supposedly lesser foes) and should have ended in three points. But more than the results themselves, haven't we seen some very poor games, with no heart, no energy, seemingly no passion or desire? That's what disappoints the most.
I want to see FFC survive this season, if at all possible, because my fear is that we see League 1 in short order, with CR gone along with Sess, Mitro and others. If FFC can somehow escape, the upcoming off season can fix what ails. But sadly I just don't see survival.
Seek the inner peace which comes from accepting the inevitable.
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
You're talking nonsense, and why you chose to single out this Forum, or the people who use it, is beyond me. If you look around the whole FFC social platform, it's the same, negativity everywhere, arguments between fans, finger pointing at the ownership etc. I was only looking at a Huddersfield Forum the other day, and it was more ripe than FOF. Just think you're looking for a cheap swipe at people, as they don't share the same positive opinions as you. If it's to much, take a break.
Quote from: WindyCity on January 19, 2019, 05:55:45 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 19, 2019, 05:46:01 PM
If we do not win tomorrow I fear the writing will be on the wall. Be hard to catch up, but I am stubborn enough not to surrender, I just hope the players don't either.
Unfortunately you reap what you sow, not forgetting poor judgement from the recruitment unit, and the consequences of a poor preseason and inadequate preparation, mediocre organisation, and jumping out of the frying pan into the fire by sacking the wrong man at the time, that's my opinion, but despite all that my instinct will not allow me to surrender.
I admire your optimism. That said, what has this club shown you that inspires? We've seen a lot of disappointing results, and losses/draws in games that should have been won (supposedly lesser foes) and should have ended in three points. But more than the results themselves, haven't we seen some very poor games, with no heart, no energy, seemingly no passion or desire? That's what disappoints the most.
I want to see FFC survive this season, if at all possible, because my fear is that we see League 1 in short order, with CR gone along with Sess, Mitro and others. If FFC can somehow escape, the upcoming off season can fix what ails. But sadly I just don't see survival.
Optimism. Eh?
you don't get out of the mire by losing to teams around
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 04:53:55 PM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on January 19, 2019, 04:46:38 PM
I can see us and Cardiff getting left adrift with the Terriers and it all over within 2 weeks. Saints and Toon getting back in their stride, Palace standing toe-toe with Plod, even Burnley who are shocking will grind their way to a draw at Watford
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Newcastle are playing Cardiff hardly the best opponents. They will struggle against better teams as we all will down here. Just got to show some guys and fight.
How important could that last game of the season at home to Newcastle be
Of zero importance, we will be mathematically relegated long before then. This season is over after a disastrously mismanaged summer transfer window.
Quote from: BedsFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:59:19 PM
Quote from: WindyCity on January 19, 2019, 05:55:45 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 19, 2019, 05:46:01 PM
If we do not win tomorrow I fear the writing will be on the wall. Be hard to catch up, but I am stubborn enough not to surrender, I just hope the players don't either.
Unfortunately you reap what you sow, not forgetting poor judgement from the recruitment unit, and the consequences of a poor preseason and inadequate preparation, mediocre organisation, and jumping out of the frying pan into the fire by sacking the wrong man at the time, that's my opinion, but despite all that my instinct will not allow me to surrender.
I admire your optimism. That said, what has this club shown you that inspires? We've seen a lot of disappointing results, and losses/draws in games that should have been won (supposedly lesser foes) and should have ended in three points. But more than the results themselves, haven't we seen some very poor games, with no heart, no energy, seemingly no passion or desire? That's what disappoints the most.
I want to see FFC survive this season, if at all possible, because my fear is that we see League 1 in short order, with CR gone along with Sess, Mitro and others. If FFC can somehow escape, the upcoming off season can fix what ails. But sadly I just don't see survival.
Optimism. Eh?
Eh?......
"I am stubborn enough not to surrender"
"but despite all that my instinct will not allow me to surrender."
Eh?
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
Edit- I'm starting a debate of who is a bigger fan and attends more games just the attitude of some ofur fans in accepting defat before it's certain
It's not down to the fans though, is it?
Generally, I find the opposite to you whereby fans of most clubs are mainly negative about their teams prospects, unless they are Man City, Liverpool etc..
we're maninly negative because we've shown over 2/3 of the season that we're one of the worst teams in the league & we're now being left behind.
You can't seriously tell me that you regularly speak with fans of Birmingham city, Bolton, Stoke, Swansea, Reading, Northampton town, for example, and their outlook is always positive???
So I come back to my original point that it's not down to the fans, it's down to the players, management etc..& they've had 20 odd games to prove otherwise, but it hasn't happened.
Suggest if you want to have a dig at a fan base for being negative, you should visit a spurs or arsenal forum as they always think they should be much better & deserve much more than they already have.
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on January 19, 2019, 05:58:19 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
You're talking nonsense, and why you chose to single out this Forum, or the people who use it, is beyond me. If you look around the whole FFC social platform, it's the same, negativity everywhere, arguments between fans, finger pointing at the ownership etc. I was only looking at a Huddersfield Forum the other day, and it was more ripe than FOF. Just think you're looking for a cheap swipe at people, as they don't share the same positive opinions as you. If it's to much, take a break.
May add not all fans on this forum.
Back to your point, a cheap swipe? If you feel victimised then that's your issue.
I'm not telling you to be positive I just can't understandthe defeatist attitude, yes frustrations are boiling with regards to a number of issues within the club but regardless it is still possible to stay up albeit The players are going to have to show what they are capable of.
Going down should be the last thing we all want for the club surely, people speak about building for next season, we will be left thread bare is we go down, the team will be gutted and I fear that we will be sunk for many years.
Yes the championship was fun when we were winning, we loved the style of football but I would trade that all for to be a struggling club in the premier league.
It's not defeatism.. it's realism and being practical. Why waste £££ now trying to fix something that's too far gone when we should be making sure we're healthy going into the championship.
Quote from: Fulham76 on January 19, 2019, 06:11:29 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
Edit- I'm starting a debate of who is a bigger fan and attends more games just the attitude of some ofur fans in accepting defat before it's certain
It's not down to the fans though, is it?
Generally, I find the opposite to you whereby fans of most clubs are mainly negative about their teams prospects, unless they are Man City, Liverpool etc..
we're maninly negative because we've shown over 2/3 of the season that we're one of the worst teams in the league & we're now being left behind.
You can't seriously tell me that you regularly speak with fans of Birmingham city, Bolton, Stoke, Swansea, Reading, Northampton town, for example, and their outlook is always positive???
So I come back to my original point that it's not down to the fans, it's down to the players, management etc..& they've had 20 odd games to prove otherwise, but it hasn't happened.
Suggest if you want to have a dig at a fan base for being negative, you should visit a spurs or arsenal forum as they always think they should be much better & deserve much more than they already have.
Arsenal and Tottenham are indeed as you say and doesn't every fan across the country apart from their own laughs at them for that exact reason.
I'm not having a dig and apologise of persons are taking as that but just don't understand why there isn't any optimism amongst us.
Maybe I'm deledued into thinking that we can still stay up
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
Edit- I'm starting a debate of who is a bigger fan and attends more games just the attitude of some ofur fans in accepting defat before it's certain
There is already plenty of debate and most aspects from of our probable demise, the forlorn hope and the eternal optimismism is being covered. I don't think the negatives are particularly unfair, the proof is there every week, and I don't think those that await the mathematical certainty are harshly put down. An individuals stance on performances or relegation or an individuals ability to attend every game surely does'nt make them a bigger or lesser fan. We are all fans. The Club and the team need to give us something. I gave up a whole day, £120 and lost my mind the last time I was at CC in person and the team gave me nowt. Still a fan though.
Quote from: Spirit of 2000 on January 19, 2019, 06:16:25 PM
It's not defeatism.. it's realism and being practical. Why waste £££ now trying to fix something that's too far gone when we should be making sure we're healthy going into the championship.
I'm not saying we need to spunk loads more money.
Hey look I know that on paper and form we are more likely to go down but I guess I don't want to accept it until it's confirmed.
Maybe If I do give up now, I don't have any more kicks to the nuts with our results this season
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 06:18:51 PM
Quote from: Fulham76 on January 19, 2019, 06:11:29 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
Edit- I'm starting a debate of who is a bigger fan and attends more games just the attitude of some ofur fans in accepting defat before it's certain
It's not down to the fans though, is it?
Generally, I find the opposite to you whereby fans of most clubs are mainly negative about their teams prospects, unless they are Man City, Liverpool etc..
we're maninly negative because we've shown over 2/3 of the season that we're one of the worst teams in the league & we're now being left behind.
You can't seriously tell me that you regularly speak with fans of Birmingham city, Bolton, Stoke, Swansea, Reading, Northampton town, for example, and their outlook is always positive???
So I come back to my original point that it's not down to the fans, it's down to the players, management etc..& they've had 20 odd games to prove otherwise, but it hasn't happened.
Suggest if you want to have a dig at a fan base for being negative, you should visit a spurs or arsenal forum as they always think they should be much better & deserve much more than they already have.
Arsenal and Tottenham are indeed as you say and doesn't every fan across the country apart from their own laughs at them for that exact reason.
I'm not having a dig and apologise of persons are taking as that but just don't understand why there isn't any optimism amongst us.
Maybe I'm deledued into thinking that we can still stay up
All optimism has been beaten out of us... literally (14 out of 22)
Quote from: WindyCity on January 19, 2019, 05:55:45 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 19, 2019, 05:46:01 PM
If we do not win tomorrow I fear the writing will be on the wall. Be hard to catch up, but I am stubborn enough not to surrender, I just hope the players don't either.
Unfortunately you reap what you sow, not forgetting poor judgement from the recruitment unit, and the consequences of a poor preseason and inadequate preparation, mediocre organisation, and jumping out of the frying pan into the fire by sacking the wrong man at the time, that's my opinion, but despite all that my instinct will not allow me to surrender.
I admire your optimism. That said, what has this club shown you that inspires? We've seen a lot of disappointing results, and losses/draws in games that should have been won (supposedly lesser foes) and should have ended in three points. But more than the results themselves, haven't we seen some very poor games, with no heart, no energy, seemingly no passion or desire? That's what disappoints the most.
I want to see FFC survive this season, if at all possible, because my fear is that we see League 1 in short order, with CR gone along with Sess, Mitro and others. If FFC can somehow escape, the upcoming off season can fix what ails. But sadly I just don't see survival.
and sadly, allowing my head to rule my heart, I have to reluctantly agree with you.
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
Edit- I'm starting a debate of who is a bigger fan and attends more games just the attitude of some ofur fans in accepting defat before it's certain
Seriously, you are having a pop at us if we are negative? And what is more you are implying I am somehow a lesser fan? I don't fully understand your sentence but that seems to be the gist of it.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on January 19, 2019, 06:19:23 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
Edit- I'm starting a debate of who is a bigger fan and attends more games just the attitude of some ofur fans in accepting defat before it's certain
There is already plenty of debate and most aspects from of our probable demise, the forlorn hope and the eternal optimismism is being covered. I don't think the negatives are particularly unfair, the proof is there every week, and I don't think those that await the mathematical certainty are harshly put down. An individuals stance on performances or relegation or an individuals ability to attend every game surely does'nt make them a bigger or lesser fan. We are all fans. The Club and the team need to give us something. I gave up a whole day, £120 and lost my mind the last time I was at CC in person and the team gave me nowt. Still a fan though.
As I said I didn't want this to be turned into a question of who is a fan or who is not, I see enough of that.
A fan is a fan, regardless of how you chose to support your club, that is not being called into question.
It was more about an i that deluded to think we could still stay up as I read this forum and it seems like plenty are already accepting we have gone
Quote from: Twig on January 19, 2019, 06:23:31 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
Edit- I'm starting a debate of who is a bigger fan and attends more games just the attitude of some ofur fans in accepting defat before it's certain
Seriously, you are having a pop at us if we are negative? And what is more you are implying I am somehow a lesser fan? I don't fully understand your sentence but that seems to be the gist of it.
Sh1t I meant to say I'm not starting a debate. I apologise I didn't proof read that.
Probably explains some of the backlash
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 06:26:10 PM
Quote from: Twig on January 19, 2019, 06:23:31 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
Edit- I'm starting a debate of who is a bigger fan and attends more games just the attitude of some ofur fans in accepting defat before it's certain
Seriously, you are having a pop at us if we are negative? And what is more you are implying I am somehow a lesser fan? I don't fully understand your sentence but that seems to be the gist of it.
Sh1t I meant to say I'm not starting a debate. I apologise I didn't proof read that.
Probably explains some of the backlash
Blame a small keyboard and auto correct. Works for me every time.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on January 19, 2019, 06:39:43 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 06:26:10 PM
Quote from: Twig on January 19, 2019, 06:23:31 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
Edit- I'm starting a debate of who is a bigger fan and attends more games just the attitude of some ofur fans in accepting defat before it's certain
Seriously, you are having a pop at us if we are negative? And what is more you are implying I am somehow a lesser fan? I don't fully understand your sentence but that seems to be the gist of it.
Sh1t I meant to say I'm not starting a debate. I apologise I didn't proof read that.
Probably explains some of the backlash
Blame a small keyboard and auto correct. Works for me every time.
To be honest if I did proof read it back then I would notice the few spelling errors but I'm glad you tick one of my points about the sarcasm :003:
OhConnah had a great point in Reply #5.
This is a fact: We blew it this year and we must pay for it by getting relegated. We need to make wholesale changes as OhCannah said and get into a position where we will be competitive again next year.
We are as good as gone. Sorry, but we are. 7 points adrift on 19 Jan, watch for that number to increase.
Yes, its obviously the fault of the fans as to why we're in this predicament.......Blimey.
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on January 19, 2019, 04:26:24 PM
It just tells us what we already know. We refreshed our parachute payments and that's all.
That would be a nice, positive way of looking at it... Just a shame we blew it all already
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 06:26:10 PM
Quote from: Twig on January 19, 2019, 06:23:31 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
Edit- I'm starting a debate of who is a bigger fan and attends more games just the attitude of some ofur fans in accepting defat before it's certain
Seriously, you are having a pop at us if we are negative? And what is more you are implying I am somehow a lesser fan? I don't fully understand your sentence but that seems to be the gist of it.
Sh1t I meant to say I'm not starting a debate. I apologise I didn't proof read that.
Probably explains some of the backlash
OK, fair enough. I think that being 7 (or 8) points from safety is pretty much the reason for the doom and gloom. Add to that our upcoming fixture list which looks scary given our abject away form and it is hard to see where points are going to come from. Palace away, WHU away, Saints away, not to mention Man Utd at the Cottage! That just leaves Brighton at home before the end of Feb, so even if we win that and get a point tomorrow we go into March on 18 points. Not good I think you would agree.
Quote from: Twig on January 19, 2019, 08:14:21 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 06:26:10 PM
Quote from: Twig on January 19, 2019, 06:23:31 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 05:52:11 PM
What worries me is the defeatist attitude of our fans, well fans who use this forum.
If the points are still there why are we not believing that we can some how get them? You speak to other fans of other clubs and they more often than not have a never say die attitude.
I understand many on here will come on to be sarcastic and sit behind a screen but honestly i question are other clubs that much more passionate or is it a front they put on?
Edit- I'm starting a debate of who is a bigger fan and attends more games just the attitude of some ofur fans in accepting defat before it's certain
Seriously, you are having a pop at us if we are negative? And what is more you are implying I am somehow a lesser fan? I don't fully understand your sentence but that seems to be the gist of it.
Sh1t I meant to say I'm not starting a debate. I apologise I didn't proof read that.
Probably explains some of the backlash
OK, fair enough. I think that being 7 (or 8) points from safety is pretty much the reason for the doom and gloom. Add to that our upcoming fixture list which looks scary given our abject away form and it is hard to see where points are going to come from. Palace away, WHU away, Saints away, not to mention Man Utd at the Cottage! That just leaves Brighton at home before the end of Feb, so even if we win that and get a point tomorrow we go into March on 18 points. Not good I think you would agree.
I understand I just like to hold on to the hope that we can cause an upset
Quote from: Twig on January 19, 2019, 06:05:20 PM
Quote from: DevonFFC on January 19, 2019, 04:53:55 PM
Quote from: YoungsBitter on January 19, 2019, 04:46:38 PM
I can see us and Cardiff getting left adrift with the Terriers and it all over within 2 weeks. Saints and Toon getting back in their stride, Palace standing toe-toe with Plod, even Burnley who are shocking will grind their way to a draw at Watford
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Newcastle are playing Cardiff hardly the best opponents. They will struggle against better teams as we all will down here. Just got to show some guys and fight.
How important could that last game of the season at home to Newcastle be
Of zero importance, we will be mathematically relegated long before then. This season is over after a disastrously mismanaged summer transfer window.
i like that twig, it sums it all up in one short sentence . BUT I'LL KEEP GOING.
