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Title: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Steeeeeeeeeed on February 22, 2019, 08:46:11 PM
He really does not look confident at all when trying to do anything defensively.

Watch him in that Diop goal, there is one angle they showed and his face was one of 'fear', and he even had his hands up in a kind of 'ohhhh handbags' manner.

In general he never looks up for going in for a tackle to me,this season anyway. He plays as though he does not want to risk any kind of injury at all.

I think he is a quality player, as a forward, he can look.really quality, silky and with a nice touch, but the kid is never a defensive one
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Luka on February 22, 2019, 09:51:24 PM
I think that Sess has been found out.He just doesn't cut it at this pace and skill level.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: JoelH5 on February 22, 2019, 09:52:05 PM
Quote from: Luka on February 22, 2019, 09:51:24 PM
I think that Sess has been found out at this level. He just doesn't cut it at this pace and skill level.

You're right but you'll be crucified for saying it
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Twig on February 22, 2019, 09:55:58 PM
I'm not sure found out is the right word. Naive and inexperienced yes.  Let's remember he is 18 and people on this board are arguing that Zambo is still young and has time to develop at 23. 
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Baszab on February 22, 2019, 09:58:18 PM
I think he's been told not to get injured as there's 50m squid coming in from Spurs later on this year
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: Luka on February 22, 2019, 09:51:24 PM
I think that Sess has been found out.He just doesn't cut it at this pace and skill level.

He is 18. I don't even know what more to say than that, since it shouldn't be needed in my opinion. Most 18 year olds are fighting for a spot in the under 23s. Sess has been generally holding his own in the PL in one of the worst teams to ever grace this league.

But don't let that get in the way of a good bashing of course.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: johnny too bad on February 22, 2019, 10:05:07 PM
He'd do OK at a proper club
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:05:25 PM
Quote from: Baszab on February 22, 2019, 09:58:18 PM
I think he's been told not to get injured as there's 50m squid coming in from Spurs later on this year

I think this is extremely unlikely, and also a real dig at Sess' character, which I find underserved.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Baszab on February 22, 2019, 10:08:31 PM
Not a dig at RS whatsoever if you read my post
It's a dig at the owners
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Luka on February 22, 2019, 10:10:15 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: Luka on February 22, 2019, 09:51:24 PM
I think that Sess has been found out.He just doesn't cut it at this pace and skill level.

He is 18. I don't even know what more to say than that, since it shouldn't be needed in my opinion. Most 18 year olds are fighting for a spot in the under 23s. Sess has been generally holding his own in the PL in one of the worst teams to ever grace this league.

But don't let that get in the way of a good bashing of course.

And therefore maybe the under 23's is where he needs to be for a while longer because at PL level he is just not cutting it.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: fulhamfever on February 22, 2019, 10:11:47 PM
NOBODY defended well from a corner today, it's grassroots defending. I swear the whole Fulham defence should be charged with Fraud.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:12:39 PM
Quote from: Baszab on February 22, 2019, 10:08:31 PM
Not a dig at RS whatsoever if you read my post
It's a dig at the owners

I mean the implication that Sess would actually avoid contact because someone told him he will be sold. What else could your post have meant? Maybe you meant it as a dig at the owners, but it would only work if Sess agreed.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: bobby01 on February 22, 2019, 10:14:12 PM
He is 18, had 2 great years, now working for a manager that is making it clear he does not rate him. At his age that must be hard to deal with. He will come good again I am sure.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: BigbadBillyMcKinley on February 22, 2019, 10:14:23 PM
Ah. So now it's the turn of seas. Everyone else has been slaughtered, so we turn on our best player who is 18.
At 18 I was still learning to wrestle the python and not play in the premiership. Give the kid a break.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:15:08 PM
Quote from: Luka on February 22, 2019, 10:10:15 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: Luka on February 22, 2019, 09:51:24 PM
I think that Sess has been found out.He just doesn't cut it at this pace and skill level.

He is 18. I don't even know what more to say than that, since it shouldn't be needed in my opinion. Most 18 year olds are fighting for a spot in the under 23s. Sess has been generally holding his own in the PL in one of the worst teams to ever grace this league.

But don't let that get in the way of a good bashing of course.

And therefore maybe the under 23's is where he needs to be for a while longer because at PL level he is just not cutting it.

I just disagree. I don't base my judgment on one game, and as I wrote I think that he in general has held his own. I feel no need to hyperbolic bashing of a player because I am disappointed over a result.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:17:24 PM
Quote from: Baszab on February 22, 2019, 09:58:18 PM
I think he's been told not to get injured as there's 50m squid coming in from Spurs later on this year

Not a hope in hell of anyone paying that sort of money,or even contemplating buying him.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: the nutflush on February 22, 2019, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: Baszab on February 22, 2019, 09:58:18 PM
I think he's been told not to get injured as there's 50m squid coming in from Spurs later on this year

With performances like tonight's his value is rapidly plummeting.  This is going to sound a little crazy... but we are cooked this season.  I think we should bench him and cash in for as much as we can.  We all know he's leaving so its about getting the maximum value for him.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:21:49 PM
Put this he is only 18 sh+t to bed,there been younger players than him performed at the highest level,and got better with it.
Tinkerman was right about one thing,he is weak and needs to harden up,looked a scared rabbit at times.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 22, 2019, 10:21:52 PM
Quote from: Luka on February 22, 2019, 10:10:15 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: Luka on February 22, 2019, 09:51:24 PM
I think that Sess has been found out.He just doesn't cut it at this pace and skill level.

He is 18. I don't even know what more to say than that, since it shouldn't be needed in my opinion. Most 18 year olds are fighting for a spot in the under 23s. Sess has been generally holding his own in the PL in one of the worst teams to ever grace this league.

But don't let that get in the way of a good bashing of course.

And therefore maybe the under 23's is where he needs to be for a while longer because at PL level he is just not cutting it.

Give him a break, Ryan Sessegnon is coming back from a groin strain in the hardest league in the world on a big field. When fit (i mean super fit) he clearly makes up for a lot of defensive errors by running like a manic. Before his injury, he has had good games against Southampton and Leciester proving his long-term future is at this level, but unsuprisingly for a young bloke he doesn't seem to do well when not 100% fit (unlike FFC other wingers that seem to have mastered the art of playing ok while being unfit).
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on February 22, 2019, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: Baszab on February 22, 2019, 09:58:18 PM
I think he's been told not to get injured as there's 50m squid coming in from Spurs later on this year

With performances like tonight's his value is rapidly plummeting.  This is going to sound a little crazy... but we are cooked this season.  I think we should bench him and cash in for as much as we can.  We all know he's leaving so its about getting the maximum value for him.

Luckily, most scouting teams are a bit more well rounded than the general football fan when it comes to assessing a players value. If Sess plays well or not for he rest of the season will not have a huge impact on his valuation, since all have already seen plenty (both good and bad) to form an opinion.

At least that is how I see it.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:25:55 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:21:49 PM
Put this he is only 18 sh+t to bed,there been younger players than him performed at the highest level,and got better with it.
Tinkerman was right about one thing,he is weak and needs to harden up,looked a scared rabbit at times.

Sure, but most professional players ever have not performed better at such a high level at his age. That is not a defense against his poor performance today, but against the provocingly narrow minded assessments of his future prospects as a professional at the highest level based on said performance.

I guess Sess is this weeks Seri.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Nick Bateman on February 22, 2019, 10:27:05 PM
One would like to point out that "Little P" was constantly obstructing Rico - other clubs have a 'minder' for their goalies but Raneiri failed to assign one for this match.  Hence Rico struggled and flapped throughout.  Even the third goal he dived too early and couldn't reach a slowly moving ball.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:29:33 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:25:55 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:21:49 PM
Put this he is only 18 sh+t to bed,there been younger players than him performed at the highest level,and got better with it.
Tinkerman was right about one thing,he is weak and needs to harden up,looked a scared rabbit at times.

Sure, but most professional players ever have not performed better at such a high level at his age. That is not a defense against his poor performance today, but against the provocingly narrow minded assessments of his future prospects as a professional at the highest level based on said performance.

I guess Sess is this weeks Seri.

One game,he's been poor nearly every game he's played I'm afraid...
But we can't knock him as he is one of our own is that it...Sentimental trollop.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:33:12 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:29:33 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:25:55 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:21:49 PM
Put this he is only 18 sh+t to bed,there been younger players than him performed at the highest level,and got better with it.
Tinkerman was right about one thing,he is weak and needs to harden up,looked a scared rabbit at times.

Sure, but most professional players ever have not performed better at such a high level at his age. That is not a defense against his poor performance today, but against the provocingly narrow minded assessments of his future prospects as a professional at the highest level based on said performance.

I guess Sess is this weeks Seri.

One game,he's been poor nearly every game he's played I'm afraid...
But we can't knock him as he is one of our own is that it...Sentimental trollop.

It is surprising how most have failed to mention how poor he has been throughout the season. And I can disagree for other reasons than he is one of our own, so you do t have to invent my reasons for me. Fair enough if this has been your opinion for a long time, but I profoundly disagree. And that has absolutely nothing to do with the fact that he is one of our own.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: hovewhite on February 22, 2019, 10:36:57 PM
Really hate the level of personal abuse that's given on sites including this one.hes a young lad give the abuse a rest!!!
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:38:40 PM
Nothing would make me happier than to see him go to the top of the game,but some people on here got so carried away with him in the Championship last season that when Spurs were reported to have bid 50 million for him,there were posters on here coming out with ridiculous comments like"we can't accept that hold on to him and get 100 million in a year or so fro Barca"..Utter nonsense.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Matt10 on February 22, 2019, 10:39:50 PM
He just had a poor first half to me. First 5 minutes, excellent. Next 40...not so much. Beaten by Zabaleta and Antonio multiple times. He did recover to concede corners, but shouldn't have been there in the first place. For a posture viewpoint, he defends, then he relaxes, then defends again. He's moving quite slow as well in deciding what to do with the ball.

Being subbed off at the half is going to prove damning for him, unfortunately. Until Ranieri goes, I fear Sess will not be starting anymore. I really want him to, and want him to succeed tremendously, but in a match that is a proving point for everyone, he was not consistent enough to pass. However, I am a big defender of players that statistically lead on the team, so the fact that he is our leader in assists right now should be enough reasoning to get him on the pitch where we need much more chances for Mitro and Babel.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:40:19 PM
Quote from: hovewhite on February 22, 2019, 10:36:57 PM
Really hate the level of personal abuse that's given on sites including this one.hes a young lad give the abuse a rest!!!
[/quote

Abuse...Hilarious.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: JoelH5 on February 22, 2019, 10:41:01 PM
Not allowed to say he isn't up to it at this level yet. If you do it's abuse haha
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 22, 2019, 10:42:58 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:22:13 PM
Quote from: the nutflush on February 22, 2019, 10:18:07 PM
Quote from: Baszab on February 22, 2019, 09:58:18 PM
I think he's been told not to get injured as there's 50m squid coming in from Spurs later on this year

With performances like tonight's his value is rapidly plummeting.  This is going to sound a little crazy... but we are cooked this season.  I think we should bench him and cash in for as much as we can.  We all know he's leaving so its about getting the maximum value for him.

Luckily, most scouting teams are a bit more well rounded than the general football fan when it comes to assessing a players value. If Sess plays well or not for he rest of the season will not have a huge impact on his valuation, since all have already seen plenty (both good and bad) to form an opinion.

At least that is how I see it.

I think the item that would most concern scouts is how his body is holding up, will he improve for another 10 years. At the age of 17 years and 8 month old, Ryan Giggs has played 2 professional games and Ryan Sessegnon had played around 70 games. I think Sessegnon has had enough games time, so I think once all the wingers are back, the best way to maximise his value is to give him a good rest until Watford and end the season well.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: BigbadBillyMcKinley on February 22, 2019, 10:43:39 PM
Tell you what, name me an 18 year old that's had the perfect first season in the premiership and we can go from there.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: simplyfulham on February 22, 2019, 10:45:01 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:21:49 PM
Put this he is only 18 sh+t to bed,there been younger players than him performed at the highest level,and got better with it.
Tinkerman was right about one thing,he is weak and needs to harden up,looked a scared rabbit at times.

It's not like he's the only sodding one. So hardly seems fair to single him out for something more experienced pros aren't doing.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: simplyfulham on February 22, 2019, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:29:33 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:25:55 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:21:49 PM
Put this he is only 18 sh+t to bed,there been younger players than him performed at the highest level,and got better with it.
Tinkerman was right about one thing,he is weak and needs to harden up,looked a scared rabbit at times.

Sure, but most professional players ever have not performed better at such a high level at his age. That is not a defense against his poor performance today, but against the provocingly narrow minded assessments of his future prospects as a professional at the highest level based on said performance.

I guess Sess is this weeks Seri.

One game,he's been poor nearly every game he's played I'm afraid...


That my friend, is utter crap.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:49:06 PM
Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on February 22, 2019, 10:43:39 PM
Tell you what, name me an 18 year old that's had the perfect first season in the premiership and we can go from there.

Wayne Rooney didn't do too bad at 16 and 17 for Everton.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:50:04 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on February 22, 2019, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:29:33 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:25:55 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:21:49 PM
Put this he is only 18 sh+t to bed,there been younger players than him performed at the highest level,and got better with it.
Tinkerman was right about one thing,he is weak and needs to harden up,looked a scared rabbit at times.

Sure, but most professional players ever have not performed better at such a high level at his age. That is not a defense against his poor performance today, but against the provocingly narrow minded assessments of his future prospects as a professional at the highest level based on said performance.

I guess Sess is this weeks Seri.

One game,he's been poor nearly every game he's played I'm afraid...


That my friend, is utter crap.

You obviously don't go to games then.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: simplyfulham on February 22, 2019, 10:56:07 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:50:04 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on February 22, 2019, 10:46:39 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:29:33 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:25:55 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:21:49 PM
Put this he is only 18 sh+t to bed,there been younger players than him performed at the highest level,and got better with it.
Tinkerman was right about one thing,he is weak and needs to harden up,looked a scared rabbit at times.

Sure, but most professional players ever have not performed better at such a high level at his age. That is not a defense against his poor performance today, but against the provocingly narrow minded assessments of his future prospects as a professional at the highest level based on said performance.

I guess Sess is this weeks Seri.

One game,he's been poor nearly every game he's played I'm afraid...


That my friend, is utter crap.

You obviously don't go to games then.


You obviously have no clue how football works then.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: AnOldBrownie on February 22, 2019, 11:01:26 PM
He'll be on Fulham's squad next season.  imo.  He's not going to start for a top tier side, and he's going to need to play consistently to get better.

Claudio won't be here so he'll probably extend his contract.

Good for Fulham and Ryan.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 22, 2019, 11:10:37 PM
The "Blame Pie Chart" needs to stop especially when we are blaming a kid that has five more years left in PL2 to prepare for Premier League. The chart that should matter is the one that tells us "what can improve". I think Sessegnon needs the month od March off Football so he can finish the season strong, let him regain his fitness and blow the league away in the last six games.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: JoelH5 on February 22, 2019, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 22, 2019, 11:01:26 PM
He'll be on Fulham's squad next season.  imo.  He's not going to start for a top tier side, and he's going to need to play consistently to get better.

Claudio won't be here so he'll probably extend his contract.

Good for Fulham and Ryan.


That would be great for us but I think we will cash in on him so we can rebuild
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: BigbadBillyMcKinley on February 22, 2019, 11:30:56 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 22, 2019, 10:49:06 PM
Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on February 22, 2019, 10:43:39 PM
Tell you what, name me an 18 year old that's had the perfect first season in the premiership and we can go from there.

Wayne Rooney didn't do too bad at 16 and 17 for Everton.

So, the best player we have produced in a generation.

Next.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: BigbadBillyMcKinley on February 22, 2019, 11:34:00 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on February 22, 2019, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 22, 2019, 11:01:26 PM
He'll be on Fulham's squad next season.  imo.  He's not going to start for a top tier side, and he's going to need to play consistently to get better.

Claudio won't be here so he'll probably extend his contract.

Good for Fulham and Ryan.


That would be great for us but I think we will cash in on him so we can rebuild

Or, keep him and cash in on the rest of the Suger Honey Iced Tea we have in the squad. Would rather keep him to progress and improve, than keep someone like Anguissa who won't.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: JoelH5 on February 22, 2019, 11:35:22 PM
Players are getting better, younger. I do think Sess will be a PL regular but he's not quite there yet.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 11:41:00 PM
Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on February 22, 2019, 11:34:00 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on February 22, 2019, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 22, 2019, 11:01:26 PM
He'll be on Fulham's squad next season.  imo.  He's not going to start for a top tier side, and he's going to need to play consistently to get better.

Claudio won't be here so he'll probably extend his contract.

Good for Fulham and Ryan.


That would be great for us but I think we will cash in on him so we can rebuild

Or, keep him and cash in on the rest of the Suger Honey Iced Tea we have in the squad. Would rather keep him to progress and improve, than keep someone like Anguissa who won't.

Why in your opinion wouldn't Anguissa be able to improve?
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: BigbadBillyMcKinley on February 22, 2019, 11:42:43 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 11:41:00 PM
Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on February 22, 2019, 11:34:00 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on February 22, 2019, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 22, 2019, 11:01:26 PM
He'll be on Fulham's squad next season.  imo.  He's not going to start for a top tier side, and he's going to need to play consistently to get better.

Claudio won't be here so he'll probably extend his contract.

Good for Fulham and Ryan.


That would be great for us but I think we will cash in on him so we can rebuild

Or, keep him and cash in on the rest of the Suger Honey Iced Tea we have in the squad. Would rather keep him to progress and improve, than keep someone like Anguissa who won't.

Why in your opinion wouldn't Anguissa be able to improve?

Wel, he's five years older than Sess and people have written him off. I thought it was logical.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 11:46:51 PM
Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on February 22, 2019, 11:42:43 PM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 11:41:00 PM
Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on February 22, 2019, 11:34:00 PM
Quote from: JoelH5 on February 22, 2019, 11:12:17 PM
Quote from: AnOldBrownie on February 22, 2019, 11:01:26 PM
He'll be on Fulham's squad next season.  imo.  He's not going to start for a top tier side, and he's going to need to play consistently to get better.

Claudio won't be here so he'll probably extend his contract.

Good for Fulham and Ryan.


That would be great for us but I think we will cash in on him so we can rebuild

Or, keep him and cash in on the rest of the Suger Honey Iced Tea we have in the squad. Would rather keep him to progress and improve, than keep someone like Anguissa who won't.

Why in your opinion wouldn't Anguissa be able to improve?

Wel, he's five years older than Sess and people have written him off. I thought it was logical.

So, a player five years older than an 18 year old can no longer improve? Got it.

Personally, I am not to bothered whether "people" have written someone off, since in my experience "people" on the internet are extremely shortsighted most of the time.

With that said, I prefer to keep them both.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Statto on February 23, 2019, 01:14:33 AM
Quote from: Sting of the North on February 22, 2019, 10:03:58 PM
Quote from: Luka on February 22, 2019, 09:51:24 PM
I think that Sess has been found out.He just doesn't cut it at this pace and skill level.

He is 18. I don't even know what more to say than that, since it shouldn't be needed in my opinion. Most 18 year olds are fighting for a spot in the under 23s. Sess has been generally holding his own in the PL in one of the worst teams to ever grace this league.

But don't let that get in the way of a good bashing of course.
Exactly
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: SG on February 23, 2019, 08:18:57 AM
I am really staggered at some people's responses about the best player the club has produced in years. Last year he was a star in a successful team. This year he is struggling in a team that is losing regularly where considerably more experienced players are looking poor (and that is being generous to some). Relegation is tough for all of us but we shouldn't be turning on each other nor youngsters like Sess. He will come good and it may need a better team than ours that gives him the opportunity to showcase his undoubted talent. There are only a handful of 18 year olds breaking into PL first teams and they are being introduced very gradually. Let's give him time and retain our respect and dignity in what is a car crash of a season.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Karlos on February 23, 2019, 08:47:10 AM
Well said SG
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: HV71 on February 23, 2019, 09:04:45 AM
Quote from: Karlos on February 23, 2019, 08:47:10 AM
Well said SG


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Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 23, 2019, 09:19:22 AM
Quote from: SG on February 23, 2019, 08:18:57 AM
I am really staggered at some people's responses about the best player the club has produced in years. Last year he was a star in a successful team. This year he is struggling in a team that is losing regularly where considerably more experienced players are looking poor (and that is being generous to some). Relegation is tough for all of us but we shouldn't be turning on each other nor youngsters like Sess. He will come good and it may need a better team than ours that gives him the opportunity to showcase his undoubted talent. There are only a handful of 18 year olds breaking into PL first teams and they are being introduced very gradually. Let's give him time and retain our respect and dignity in what is a car crash of a season.

Makes me laugh posts like this,you'd think there was a witch hunt out for him.
People just pointing out obvious facts that he was poor last night and has been on a few occasions this season, that doesn't mean that we don't love the kid.
Maybe he was made to look better than he is last season under the way Joka played,or maybe this manager isn't playing to his strengths,wish I knew the answer.
But just because he one of our own you all think he should escape criticism.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Twig on February 23, 2019, 10:56:01 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 23, 2019, 09:19:22 AM
Quote from: SG on February 23, 2019, 08:18:57 AM
I am really staggered at some people's responses about the best player the club has produced in years. Last year he was a star in a successful team. This year he is struggling in a team that is losing regularly where considerably more experienced players are looking poor (and that is being generous to some). Relegation is tough for all of us but we shouldn't be turning on each other nor youngsters like Sess. He will come good and it may need a better team than ours that gives him the opportunity to showcase his undoubted talent. There are only a handful of 18 year olds breaking into PL first teams and they are being introduced very gradually. Let's give him time and retain our respect and dignity in what is a car crash of a season.

Makes me laugh posts like this,you'd think there was a witch hunt out for him.
People just pointing out obvious facts that he was poor last night and has been on a few occasions this season, that doesn't mean that we don't love the kid.
Maybe he was made to look better than he is last season under the way Joka played,or maybe this manager isn't playing to his strengths,wish I knew the answer.
But just because he one of our own you all think he should escape criticism.

He was poor last night but I totally disagree that he has been all season.  But then I guess I don't know football either?
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Twig on February 23, 2019, 10:56:17 AM
Quote from: SG on February 23, 2019, 08:18:57 AM
I am really staggered at some people's responses about the best player the club has produced in years. Last year he was a star in a successful team. This year he is struggling in a team that is losing regularly where considerably more experienced players are looking poor (and that is being generous to some). Relegation is tough for all of us but we shouldn't be turning on each other nor youngsters like Sess. He will come good and it may need a better team than ours that gives him the opportunity to showcase his undoubted talent. There are only a handful of 18 year olds breaking into PL first teams and they are being introduced very gradually. Let's give him time and retain our respect and dignity in what is a car crash of a season.

Spot on.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 23, 2019, 11:08:08 AM
Quote from: Twig on February 23, 2019, 10:56:01 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 23, 2019, 09:19:22 AM
Quote from: SG on February 23, 2019, 08:18:57 AM
I am really staggered at some people's responses about the best player the club has produced in years. Last year he was a star in a successful team. This year he is struggling in a team that is losing regularly where considerably more experienced players are looking poor (and that is being generous to some). Relegation is tough for all of us but we shouldn't be turning on each other nor youngsters like Sess. He will come good and it may need a better team than ours that gives him the opportunity to showcase his undoubted talent. There are only a handful of 18 year olds breaking into PL first teams and they are being introduced very gradually. Let's give him time and retain our respect and dignity in what is a car crash of a season.

Makes me laugh posts like this,you'd think there was a witch hunt out for him.
People just pointing out obvious facts that he was poor last night and has been on a few occasions this season, that doesn't mean that we don't love the kid.
Maybe he was made to look better than he is last season under the way Joka played,or maybe this manager isn't playing to his strengths,wish I knew the answer.
But just because he one of our own you all think he should escape criticism.

He was poor last night but I totally disagree that he has been all season.  But then I guess I don't know football either?

Don't know about you not knowing much about football, but you don't know much about reading.
As it wasn't stated as you say he had been poor all season,occasions was the word used..
Put your specs on.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Statto on February 23, 2019, 12:20:47 PM
Quote from: SG on February 23, 2019, 08:18:57 AM
I am really staggered at some people's responses about the best player the club has produced in years. Last year he was a star in a successful team. This year he is struggling in a team that is losing regularly where considerably more experienced players are looking poor (and that is being generous to some). Relegation is tough for all of us but we shouldn't be turning on each other nor youngsters like Sess. He will come good and it may need a better team than ours that gives him the opportunity to showcase his undoubted talent. There are only a handful of 18 year olds breaking into PL first teams and they are being introduced very gradually. Let's give him time and retain our respect and dignity in what is a car crash of a season.

+1

Some really odd stuff on this thread considering it is a Fulham forum... suspect it would be better for the club if one or two on this thread just pi$$ed off and supported brentford
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: I Ronic on February 23, 2019, 01:20:45 PM
There were a few players last night who lost their marks at set pieces, didn't track back or just went missing. In stark contrast to their opponents. For me Sess and Bryan were culpable.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 23, 2019, 02:19:15 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 23, 2019, 12:20:47 PM
Quote from: SG on February 23, 2019, 08:18:57 AM
I am really staggered at some people's responses about the best player the club has produced in years. Last year he was a star in a successful team. This year he is struggling in a team that is losing regularly where considerably more experienced players are looking poor (and that is being generous to some). Relegation is tough for all of us but we shouldn't be turning on each other nor youngsters like Sess. He will come good and it may need a better team than ours that gives him the opportunity to showcase his undoubted talent. There are only a handful of 18 year olds breaking into PL first teams and they are being introduced very gradually. Let's give him time and retain our respect and dignity in what is a car crash of a season.

+1

Some really odd stuff on this thread considering it is a Fulham forum... suspect it would be better for the club if one or two on this thread just pi$$ed off and supported brentford

Why don't you then you know all p****.😎
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Statto on February 23, 2019, 02:32:16 PM
Suspect it's a bit late in your life to tell you this Mince but FYI, if you're nice to people, you'll feel happier inside
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Mince n Tatties on February 23, 2019, 02:36:28 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 23, 2019, 02:32:16 PM
Suspect it's a bit late in your life to tell you this Mince but FYI, if you're nice to people, you'll feel happier inside

Maybe you need to take them words on board for yourself to think about.
Have you seen what you have called other posters on here who don't have the same opinion as you.
Hilarious two faced comment.
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Baszab on February 23, 2019, 03:40:06 PM
Of course Anguissa can improve loads !!



He can't get much worse
Title: Re: Sessegnons general demeanour in defensive situations
Post by: Matt10 on February 23, 2019, 03:44:54 PM
Why is this turning into an Anguissa vs Sess thread? They play completely different positions, come from different backgrounds, and have different experiences. Sess has the more experience in this type of football, so...how is this a apples to apples comparison?

Like someone said, this is not an attack on Sess. It is addressing where he was poor last night, but not ruling him out officially. I personally believe the morale for him personally is low because of Ranieri. Case and point, why can't Ranieri tell him to calm down in the first half, why is Ranieri gesturing to Parker to say it? There is a sure disconnect there.