On the radio last night a pundit maybe dropped a hint who our next manager is going to be by stating that he believed Fulham have held talks with ex Man Utd manager(funny how he never mentioned his name).
I'm assuming its Moyes as I doubt it would be Van Gaal.
20/1 available on Moyes think I might take a risk and have a few quid on at that price today,along with my picks for this weeks Masters. 049:gif
First McClaren being touted and now Moyes! Its a big no to both from me.
Quote from: Fulham 442 on April 10, 2019, 07:25:32 AM
First McClaren being touted and now Moyes! Its a big no to both from me.
Don't think McLaren been mentioned by media,that was someone on here put him forward.
Both play rubbish football.
We don't need an old pretender. We need a young, up and coming manager with modern day tactics.
Put a few bob on Danny and Nicky Cowley from Lincoln City, as they will be promoted to League One in the next fortnight!
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 10, 2019, 07:30:27 AM
Quote from: Fulham 442 on April 10, 2019, 07:25:32 AM
Don't think McLaren been mentioned by media,that was someone on here put him forward.
Yes i know but I still don't want either of them whoever they were mentioned by!
None of the British candidates excite me. We can do much better looking abroad. You look at the best Championship teams and they've all been foreign-managed recently - Farke, Wagner, Jokanovic, Biesla, Nuno...
Personally think his exactly the type we require going in to the championship. He has had ups & downs but experience is vital in this division and a manager who can sort our Achilles Heel of a defence. If it's personality and charm then he won't win the awards but a good solid all round manager is what we require plus less likely to Yo-Yo as a club with someone like Moyes in charge.
Could be Jose lol. 079.gif
No chance I hope! We need a younger one. If Slav aint coming back I would go for Lee Johnston.
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Quote from: ffcwickford on April 10, 2019, 07:46:10 AM
Put a few bob on Danny and Nicky Cowley from Lincoln City, as they will be promoted to League One in the next fortnight!
I backed the Imps at 10/1 start of season.
Holiday money for the wife and I...
Quote from: BigbadBillyMcKinley on April 10, 2019, 07:34:03 AM
Both play rubbish football.
We don't need an old pretender. We need a young, up and coming manager with modern day tactics.
Thought Everton played decent stuff under him.
I don't want him,but the 20/1 is tempting going by what they said.
But talks often come to nothing.
Big gamble going on Michael Appleton to be QPR boss.
Fingers crossed he means Jose.
If it's Moyes I think I'll retire from international football watching.
But then.. I was underwhelmed by Babel's signing and clearly that was premature.
No chance I hope! We need a younger one. If Slav aint coming back I would go for Lee Johnston.
Good shout. Isn't he a Fulham fan as well?
I'd just like to know who, at FFC, is doing the alleged 'talking' because if it's the 'old guard' then heaven help us given their record - one in eight. Let us hope it is two in nine.
If we are going for experience, maybe Methuselah could do a good job!
Quote from: Fulham 442 on April 10, 2019, 09:19:10 AM
No chance I hope! We need a younger one. If Slav aint coming back I would go for Lee Johnston.
Good shout. Isn't he a Fulham fan as well?
His dad is.
Gary Johnson is a Fulham supporter....he grew up nearby....Moyes would definitely organise and get our team very fit - but not sure he's the right fit
Rumours so far are McClaren and Moyes , bet there are a few more rumours to get through before we make an appointment.
In footballing terms the success Moyes had at Everton was light years ago. Decidedly average since then with the caveat that following Fergie was always going to be the poison chalice of appointments. It is not only the first team that needs fixing here but the whole demeanour around the Club. We need a hurricane when many are aiming for a breath of fresh air. Parker is in post now, another poison chalice of an appointment, and has had a few things to say openingly acknowledging a number of issues to resolve. Quite brave imho. We are also led to believe he has the respect of the key players and having written off the season many of us are quite keen to blood the youngsters even if that means no more points but the foundations laid for next season. Already that scenario looks more appealing than any of the Prem merry go round options coming in.
The Cowley brothers. Too big a leap? Bags of energy and they would certainly fit the Fulham profile we all hark back to but to soon perhaps? Both are as untested as Parker. A season in League one would take them a step closer to dealing with high expectations, the pressure, big money spending and prima Donna players. Any of these may be why they are never linked, as far as I know, to the numerous vacancies outside the Prem that have occurred this season.
Sport in Bristol is a city wide project incorporating the rugby, county cricket, the Uni and all the grassroots sport you can think of.. Even if City don't go up Johnson can work in a much better environment than the Khans currently offer.
The continent. I think we missed an opportunity with Ralph going to Southampton but no other names really slap you about the face. Wagner has the experience some people crave but things did fall apart a bit at Huddersfield and besides why would he put himself back under the pressure of management at this level especially with such a needy audience. JOka? No for all the reasons rolled out already.
It's going to be a challenging appointment and alas our selection process has been found wanting.
Certainly if we end up with a Premiership dinosaur I don't see the ship being steadied anytime soon.
Whether we have a young or old Manager, we need him to be tactically aware, get the group of players to bond and gel so that there is a decent team spirit. We also need a Manager who will have a say in buying players in and also not be afraid of speaking with the owners about things that do not work.
As strange as it is a Moyes Character or a big personality like Murinho will be dominant with their ideas. Not saying either would be good but quite a lot of football management is about following your own ideas and whether you have total rein of players!
Quote from: ScalleysDad on April 10, 2019, 10:44:14 AM
In footballing terms the success Moyes had at Everton was light years ago. Decidedly average since then with the caveat that following Fergie was always going to be the poison chalice of appointments. It is not only the first team that needs fixing here but the whole demeanour around the Club. We need a hurricane when many are aiming for a breath of fresh air. Parker is in post now, another poison chalice of an appointment, and has had a few things to say openingly acknowledging a number of issues to resolve. Quite brave imho. We are also led to believe he has the respect of the key players and having written off the season many of us are quite keen to blood the youngsters even if that means no more points but the foundations laid for next season. Already that scenario looks more appealing than any of the Prem merry go round options coming in.
The Cowley brothers. Too big a leap? Bags of energy and they would certainly fit the Fulham profile we all hark back to but to soon perhaps? Both are as untested as Parker. A season in League one would take them a step closer to dealing with high expectations, the pressure, big money spending and prima Donna players. Any of these may be why they are never linked, as far as I know, to the numerous vacancies outside the Prem that have occurred this season.
Sport in Bristol is a city wide project incorporating the rugby, county cricket, the Uni and all the grassroots sport you can think of.. Even if City don't go up Johnson can work in a much better environment than the Khans currently offer.
The continent. I think we missed an opportunity with Ralph going to Southampton but no other names really slap you about the face. Wagner has the experience some people crave but things did fall apart a bit at Huddersfield and besides why would he put himself back under the pressure of management at this level especially with such a needy audience. JOka? No for all the reasons rolled out already.
It's going to be a challenging appointment and alas our selection process has been found wanting.
Certainly if we end up with a Premiership dinosaur I don't see the ship being steadied anytime soon.
A very astute summary, ScalleysDad. Perhaps you need to be signed up by the Khans in an advisory role since I feel they need all the help they can get (but not another panel exercise, please)
Apart from me saying it where is the rumour we are going for Lee Johnson?
Quote from: ScalleysDad on April 10, 2019, 10:44:14 AM
In footballing terms the success Moyes had at Everton was light years ago. Decidedly average since then with the caveat that following Fergie was always going to be the poison chalice of appointments. It is not only the first team that needs fixing here but the whole demeanour around the Club. We need a hurricane when many are aiming for a breath of fresh air. Parker is in post now, another poison chalice of an appointment, and has had a few things to say openingly acknowledging a number of issues to resolve. Quite brave imho. We are also led to believe he has the respect of the key players and having written off the season many of us are quite keen to blood the youngsters even if that means no more points but the foundations laid for next season. Already that scenario looks more appealing than any of the Prem merry go round options coming in.
The Cowley brothers. Too big a leap? Bags of energy and they would certainly fit the Fulham profile we all hark back to but to soon perhaps? Both are as untested as Parker. A season in League one would take them a step closer to dealing with high expectations, the pressure, big money spending and prima Donna players. Any of these may be why they are never linked, as far as I know, to the numerous vacancies outside the Prem that have occurred this season.
Sport in Bristol is a city wide project incorporating the rugby, county cricket, the Uni and all the grassroots sport you can think of.. Even if City don't go up Johnson can work in a much better environment than the Khans currently offer.
The continent. I think we missed an opportunity with Ralph going to Southampton but no other names really slap you about the face. Wagner has the experience some people crave but things did fall apart a bit at Huddersfield and besides why would he put himself back under the pressure of management at this level especially with such a needy audience. JOka? No for all the reasons rolled out already.
It's going to be a challenging appointment and alas our selection process has been found wanting.
Certainly if we end up with a Premiership dinosaur I don't see the ship being steadied anytime soon.
If Bristol City go up I am not sure they have the money to stay up, although we did. Looking around apart from teams doing badly and in relegation trouble the manager situation looks pretty stable at the moment and I cant see many Prem clubs changing theirs. We are in a good place as we have an owner who has some cash and is prepared to spend it a good ground with a good following. Fulham is exactly the place a good young manager would want to be, make his name with us and the only way would be up, so sign up Lee.
Quote from: Statto on April 10, 2019, 07:57:55 AM
None of the British candidates excite me. We can do much better looking abroad. You look at the best Championship teams and they've all been foreign-managed recently - Farke, Wagner, Jokanovic, Biesla, Nuno...
You forgot about Colin 051
It might be a bit generous sticking Wagner in with that lot, but I do take your point.
I don't understand the negative comments about Moyes. Mr. Stability at Everton, isn't that what Fulham need. I believe his record at man u turned out to be comparable to a couple of big names that followed him. In fact, could anyone follow Ferguson after so long. Having said that, I am in the camp for younger managers but in our history, our 2 best (british) managers were OLD.....Alec Stock and of course Roy.
Mark Hughes is available. :Get Coat gif:
If John Collins wants to give DoF or Coach a go, I wouldn't be adverse to that.
Quote from: Bill2 on April 10, 2019, 11:33:05 AM
Quote from: ScalleysDad on April 10, 2019, 10:44:14 AM
In footballing terms the success Moyes had at Everton was light years ago. Decidedly average since then with the caveat that following Fergie was always going to be the poison chalice of appointments. It is not only the first team that needs fixing here but the whole demeanour around the Club. We need a hurricane when many are aiming for a breath of fresh air. Parker is in post now, another poison chalice of an appointment, and has had a few things to say openingly acknowledging a number of issues to resolve. Quite brave imho. We are also led to believe he has the respect of the key players and having written off the season many of us are quite keen to blood the youngsters even if that means no more points but the foundations laid for next season. Already that scenario looks more appealing than any of the Prem merry go round options coming in.
The Cowley brothers. Too big a leap? Bags of energy and they would certainly fit the Fulham profile we all hark back to but to soon perhaps? Both are as untested as Parker. A season in League one would take them a step closer to dealing with high expectations, the pressure, big money spending and prima Donna players. Any of these may be why they are never linked, as far as I know, to the numerous vacancies outside the Prem that have occurred this season.
Sport in Bristol is a city wide project incorporating the rugby, county cricket, the Uni and all the grassroots sport you can think of.. Even if City don't go up Johnson can work in a much better environment than the Khans currently offer.
The continent. I think we missed an opportunity with Ralph going to Southampton but no other names really slap you about the face. Wagner has the experience some people crave but things did fall apart a bit at Huddersfield and besides why would he put himself back under the pressure of management at this level especially with such a needy audience. JOka? No for all the reasons rolled out already.
It's going to be a challenging appointment and alas our selection process has been found wanting.
Certainly if we end up with a Premiership dinosaur I don't see the ship being steadied anytime soon.
If Bristol City go up I am not sure they have the money to stay up, although we did. Looking around apart from teams doing badly and in relegation trouble the manager situation looks pretty stable at the moment and I cant see many Prem clubs changing theirs. We are in a good place as we have an owner who has some cash and is prepared to spend it a good ground with a good following. Fulham is exactly the place a good young manager would want to be, make his name with us and the only way would be up, so sign up Lee.
If Bristol City go up, according to an Academy coach I know, they will "give it a crack but rebuild everything". Like the Cardiff City fans approach I think they will know their limitations and celebrate the occasional upset on what will be one heck of a rollercoaster. If they stay in the Championship nearly everything is in place to give it another go so I would think Johnson would need some key guarantees that TK probably won't want to let go.
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 10, 2019, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: Statto on April 10, 2019, 07:57:55 AM
None of the British candidates excite me. We can do much better looking abroad. You look at the best Championship teams and they've all been foreign-managed recently - Farke, Wagner, Jokanovic, Biesla, Nuno...
You forgot about Colin 051
It might be a bit generous sticking Wagner in with that lot, but I do take your point.
I didn't forget Colin, I just don't class Cardiff as one of the best Championship teams in recent years, irrespective of them finishing 2nd one year!
Fair point about Wagner, though. Overrated IMO and wouldn't want him at Fulham either
Don't bother to appoint a manager, just let the players run things under the guidance of whoever is considered our best team captain, which wouldn't be TC? They have more or less done what they wanted this season which is under perform so can't see that being manager less would make a great difference.
Quote from: davew on April 10, 2019, 02:56:49 PM
Don't bother to appoint a manager, just let the players run things under the guidance of whoever is considered our best team captain, which wouldn't be TC? They have more or less done what they wanted this season which is under perform so can't see that being manager less would make a great difference.
Do you really think that the players wanted to under perform? That is strange.
Latest Paddy Power odds:
Steve Clarke 1/2
Frank Lampard 6/1
Scott Parker 13/2
David Wagner 9/1
Chris Coleman 12/1
Lee Johnson 12/1
Slavisa Jokanovic 12/1
Michael O'Neill 12/1
Claude Puel 12/1
Gary Rowett 14/1
Paul Scholes 20/1
Mark Hughes 22/1
Brian McDermott 22/1
Alan Pardew 22/1
Harry Redknapp 22/1
Mark Warburton 22/1
Avram Grant 25/1
Kevin Nolan 25/1
Alan Curbishley 25/1
Quote from: Burt on April 10, 2019, 05:25:27 PM
Latest Paddy Power odds:
Steve Clarke 1/2
Frank Lampard 6/1
Scott Parker 13/2
David Wagner 9/1
Chris Coleman 12/1
Lee Johnson 12/1
Slavisa Jokanovic 12/1
Michael O'Neill 12/1
Claude Puel 12/1
Gary Rowett 14/1
Paul Scholes 20/1
Mark Hughes 22/1
Brian McDermott 22/1
Alan Pardew 22/1
Harry Redknapp 22/1
Mark Warburton 22/1
Avram Grant 25/1
Kevin Nolan 25/1
Alan Curbishley 25/1
Danny Murphy not on the list ?
Glad to see Cods Eyes is not on that list.
Before CR was appointed, Moyes and Joe Jordan were reported to be watching us from the stands.
I cringed at the thought of Moyes and more so McClaren. If we got McClaren would he try to bring Chrissie back?
Quote from: Burt on April 10, 2019, 05:25:27 PM
Latest Paddy Power odds:
Steve Clarke 1/2
Frank Lampard 6/1
Scott Parker 13/2
David Wagner 9/1
Chris Coleman 12/1
Lee Johnson 12/1
Slavisa Jokanovic 12/1
Michael O'Neill 12/1
Claude Puel 12/1
Gary Rowett 14/1
Paul Scholes 20/1
Mark Hughes 22/1
Brian McDermott 22/1
Alan Pardew 22/1
Harry Redknapp 22/1
Mark Warburton 22/1
Avram Grant 25/1
Kevin Nolan 25/1
Alan Curbishley 25/1
The guys at 12/1 look good value, ideally SJ but all the others would fit well especially with Cookies links to us
Quote from: Statto on April 10, 2019, 01:28:47 PM
Quote from: simplyfulham on April 10, 2019, 11:53:00 AM
Quote from: Statto on April 10, 2019, 07:57:55 AM
None of the British candidates excite me. We can do much better looking abroad. You look at the best Championship teams and they've all been foreign-managed recently - Farke, Wagner, Jokanovic, Biesla, Nuno...
You forgot about Colin 051
It might be a bit generous sticking Wagner in with that lot, but I do take your point.
I didn't forget Colin, I just don't class Cardiff as one of the best Championship teams in recent years, irrespective of them finishing 2nd one year!
Fair point about Wagner, though. Overrated IMO and wouldn't want him at Fulham either
Sorry, the Colin comment was a naff attempt at a joke.
Cardiff's game plan was basically just a war of attrition.
Blimey Steve Clarke at the top of the list. In many ways, and like McLaren, a valued No.2 but his c.v as the manager/No.1 is not great. If you stare at the uninspiring list long enough then yes there is plenty of experience, yes there are commendable c.v's and yes there are some big names but given the mess we are in and recent revelations and outbreaks of honesty then Parker actually stands out.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 10, 2019, 07:14:15 AM
On the radio last night a pundit maybe dropped a hint who our next manager is going to be by stating that he believed Fulham have held talks with ex Man Utd manager(funny how he never mentioned his name).
I'm assuming its Moyes as I doubt it would be Van Gaal.
20/1 available on Moyes think I might take a risk and have a few quid on at that price today,along with my picks for this weeks Masters. 049:gif
Could Sir Alex be looking for a new challenge ?
Quote from: cottage expat on April 10, 2019, 10:59:19 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on April 10, 2019, 07:14:15 AM
On the radio last night a pundit maybe dropped a hint who our next manager is going to be by stating that he believed Fulham have held talks with ex Man Utd manager(funny how he never mentioned his name).
I'm assuming its Moyes as I doubt it would be Van Gaal.
20/1 available on Moyes think I might take a risk and have a few quid on at that price today,along with my picks for this weeks Masters. 049:gif
Could Sir Alex be looking for a new challenge ?
The information received from my Crack Intelligence Unit, is that Cods Eyes is still laying on a Fishmongers Slab in Grimsby, covered in flour between a Smoked Haddock and a John Dory.
Skybet give us a 1/1 odds on Steve Clarke.
Why would we want him!?
You have to wonder who is advising SK & TK as doubt either have heard of him. Would it be the Raincoat, Daly or an escapee from Broadmore?
Quote from: Hoppus on April 11, 2019, 10:06:46 AM
Skybet give us a 1/1 odds on Steve Clarke.
Why would we want him!?
Wasn't he linked a few years ago when at Reading and turned his back on us to stay with them and then sacked a few months later due to poor results. Done a good job where he is now but its only Scotland
I hope it's Fergie. Can't stand Moyes.
Quote from: Nero on April 11, 2019, 12:46:13 PM
Quote from: Hoppus on April 11, 2019, 10:06:46 AM
Skybet give us a 1/1 odds on Steve Clarke.
Why would we want him!?
Wasn't he linked a few years ago when at Reading and turned his back on us to stay with them and then sacked a few months later due to poor results. Done a good job where he is now but its only Scotland
It is all about leaps of faith and taking chances now is'nt it especially as the risk free option did'nt work out so well. However if the betting fraternity have got this right I will curb my enthusiasm, that had just been building up, and hang onto my money. If there is a stats link to the possible appointment of Clarke it will prove TK really is a proper numpty because SC may look like he doing okay but as you say the Scottish leagues are no benchmark to get what's needed at Motspur.
I would personally back David Moyes for a full season at FFC.
Obviously it's my view - chances are some/most of you might disagree.
And I don't really care !
Quote from: sumofallparts on April 11, 2019, 01:56:06 PM
I would personally back David Moyes for a full season at FFC.
Obviously it's my view - chances are some/most of you might disagree.
And I don't really care !
best of a tired bunch waiting for offers and feel he wants to prove doubters wrong.but would he work for TK?
As I have said before I feel the Manager has to be a strong enough personality to pick the team with no interference and state to the hierarchy what players he thinks he needs to be a success. That could be an experienced Manager like Moyes who wont take no for an answer. That is the only thing that worries me about Parker or a younger Manager coming in, will they feel obliged to say yes to everything.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on April 12, 2019, 02:19:45 PM
As I have said before I feel the Manager has to be a strong enough personality to pick the team with no interference and state to the hierarchy what players he thinks he needs to be a success. That could be an experienced Manager like Moyes who wont take no for an answer. That is the only thing that worries me about Parker or a younger Manager coming in, will they feel obliged to say yes to everything.
agree with that a yes man is not what we need.
