Fulham Appoints Scott Parker As Head Coach
(https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/scott_parker/03820_fulham_player-signings_scott-parker_facebook_1200x628px_awk_new.jpg?w=622&h=278)
Shahid Khan, Chairman of Fulham Football Club, today promoted Scott Parker from Caretaker Manager to the full-time post of Head Coach, effective immediately.
"Scott was brave to accept a very difficult challenge in February when appointed as our Caretaker Manager," Khan said. "Since that time, day by day, whether in training or on matchday, we've undeniably become a better football club.
"Scott will now have another challenge to face, and that is to return Fulham to the Premier League. I fully believe Scott is more than up to the task. I appreciate that he's been clear for many years that his ultimate goal is to excel as a manager, and he will be given every opportunity to succeed at Fulham. I also have no doubt that he knows and loves this Club every bit as much as our supporters, and that's an intangible that everyone can welcome."
(https://ffcw001.azureedge.net/-/media/scott_parker/jg1_7853parker_tk_300.jpg?w=300&h=400)
Scott Parker added: "I'm delighted to be appointed Head Coach of Fulham Football Club and I thank the Chairman for entrusting me with this responsibility, as well as the support and encouragement that both he and Tony Khan have provided me.
"The players, staff and fans have all been fantastic with me since I took temporary charge. We are now all focused on ending this campaign with a positive result on Sunday against Newcastle and look forward to preparations for the new season, which have already begun."
Parker, 38, arrived at Fulham from Tottenham Hotspur in summer of 2013 as one of the Khans' first signings. In his first season with the Club, Parker made 32 appearances and scored two goals, including a strike from outside of the box, late in the game, to win at 2-1 Norwich City on Boxing Day.
The following season he was appointed Club Captain and would later help Fulham reach the Championship Play-Off Semi-Finals in 2016/17, departing that summer after having made 128 appearances for the Whites while notching six goals.
Parker then returned to Fulham as First Team Coach in the summer of 2018 before being installed as Caretaker Manager following Claudio Ranieri's departure on February 28th. Under Parker's guidance, Fulham narrowly lost to Chelsea and Liverpool before producing our only three-match winning streak of the season, recording clean sheets in all three games.
Parker earned 18 caps for England, for whom he played all four of the Three Lions' matches at Euro 2012, while also serving as captain earlier the same year versus the Netherlands at Wembley Stadium. Parker was voted Player of the Year in 2011 by the Football Writers' Association and, overall, has made 590 career appearances for club and country, pocketing 36 goals.
http://www.fulhamfc.com/news/2019/may/10/scott-parker-fulham-head-coach
good luck to him. he deserves the job although not sure he would have been my choice.
Quote from: colinwhite on May 10, 2019, 02:04:06 PM
good luck to him. he deserves the job although not sure he would have been my choice.
Who was your realistic choice?
I think on balance good appointment.
Naming Parker and Cairney extension shows we have stability and "good vibes" and gives the squad a good chance of staying together.
Conversely, if squad does largely break up I fear we would need a manager with a clear playing style to build a squad.
He's a young coach with PL experience. I'm happy, particularly as he seems to have good team around him. He now has the opportunity to get to work with TK immediately.
Good luck Scott, bit underwhelming really, but I hope for all of us it works out.
I wish him luck, hope he gets the necessary back up from the Khans in the Summer window?
I am very pleased that SP is now confirmed. He has brought the squad and fans together and. Mitro seemed a bit off key of late but the rest of the lads have really putting a shift in. Now looking forward to next season. COYW FTID.
His first job should be to fully fill up all those missing backroom staff posts.
Good luck Scott. :54: Will you be able to sack that T Khan? :022:
092.gif
Still a bit of a gamble but I'm ok with it (I'm sure he'll be pleased to know that, lol)
As we all know, the deciding factor in success or failure probably doesn't even fall on Parker, it most likely falls on a certain Khan Snr. and his tick box transfer policy.
I'm happy for Scott that he gets the opportunity to manage at a club he's familiar with. He has earned this position by right.
I do however have mixed feelings about this because Tony Khan will probably still remain in his current role. Who knows if anything will change in terms of transfers??
Apologies if this comes across negative!
There never certainties about this but I think he has as good a chance as anyone. If it does not work out then so be it but I suspect I would have chosen him if I was in charge... I really think since taking over he has done everything in a top class manner..so well done and good luck and let us hope the board back him properly. If they do I think we may have a good chance of making progress (whatever that means)
Much rather see SP in than another dinosaur manager. (We all know the names on that list). No matter who comes in, it is always a gamble. They should be able to clear out the expensive flops and bring in the right players to challenge and play good football again. 049:gif
Now let's get on with the rebuild job - sooner rather than later!! Sooner than we usually do, so the SP has a chance to get the team together BEFORE the season is upon us!!
Of course there is a risk, that is true about any appointment but, for me, Shahid Khan has made the most appropriate decision for the circumstances the Club has found itself in and I also like the style of his announcement.
I wish Scott every success in his role as Head Coach and would even go so far as to say next season will now be just what all FFC supporters would have wished and hoped for after the tortures endured this time around.
Quote from: colinwhite on May 10, 2019, 02:04:06 PM
good luck to him. he deserves the job although not sure he would have been my choice.
Not looking to argue - but can you give me reasoning why he deserves the job? Just curious
Very pleased for SP and I think he deserves this opportunity. I just pray he can exert some influence on TK to target the right transfers and on AM to do the deals earlier.
One small point; how can he have been Caretaker Manger but permanent Head Coach? Shouldn't he have been either Caretaker Head Coach or now be permanent Manager?
Quote from: Take Me Home MAF on May 10, 2019, 02:44:16 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on May 10, 2019, 02:04:06 PM
good luck to him. he deserves the job although not sure he would have been my choice.
Not looking to argue - but can you give me reasoning why he deserves the job? Just curious
Best win percentage in the Premier League of any Fulham manager in the last 5 years.
Quote from: simplyfulham on May 10, 2019, 02:50:15 PM
Quote from: Take Me Home MAF on May 10, 2019, 02:44:16 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on May 10, 2019, 02:04:06 PM
good luck to him. he deserves the job although not sure he would have been my choice.
Not looking to argue - but can you give me reasoning why he deserves the job? Just curious
Best win percentage in the Premier League of any Fulham manager in the last 5 years.
And even some of the defeats were encouraging. We ran Chelscum very close indeed.
Quote from: Holders on May 10, 2019, 02:09:16 PM
He's a young coach with PL experience. I'm happy, particularly as he seems to have good team around him. He now has the opportunity to get to work with TK immediately.
From the sounds of the interview, they are already well underway with planning and moves for the summer.
Congratulations Scot Parker,well deserved and here's hoping he has some clout over TK.
Quote from: Statto on May 10, 2019, 02:57:51 PM
"Fulham Appoints Scott Parker As Head Coach"
Memo to club - here in the UK the name of a football team is treated as a plural so can we drop the yanky "s" on "appoints" please. May as well change "Head Coach" to "Tony Khan's PA" whilst you're at it.
Spot on about the plural, that use of "appoints" really grates. But I think the p.a. dig is just a tad premature. Let's wait and see.
Right Decision imo 049:gif 049:gif 049:gif :yay:
It's important and of note that he's willing to work inside 'our' structure - it isn't normal, and not everyone is going to get along with it or tolerate it. Slavisa seemed to abide it, and the club got results. Hopefully it can be smooth sailing going forwards.
Splendid news, well done Scott.
I had TK down as having more ambition than this, but will wait to see who becomes the DOF before making a judgement.
If Parker is going to be left alone to "manage" the club in a way that he sees fit and proper, then I'm fairly confident that he will be able to do a good job, but if he is going to be another "glove puppet " for Tony Khan then I fear for the future,
For example, if Mitrovic and Sessegnon leave this summer is that a decision made by Parker ? The decision to give Cairney a huge pay rise, was that made by Parker ?
Not a managerial decision that will have 100% support, so the first ten games of next season are absolutely vital if our season is going to gather a bit of momentum.
Good choice. Ready for the clear-out next week.
Plenty of time to get ready for next season.
I think we will need two seasons to get back up.
COYWs
Quote from: Statto on May 10, 2019, 02:57:51 PM
"Fulham Appoints Scott Parker As Head Coach"
Memo to club - here in the UK the name of a football team is treated as a plural so can we drop the yanky "s" on "appoints" please. May as well change "Head Coach" to "Tony Khan's PA" whilst you're at it.
This kind of bigotry is uncalled for. Post without prejudice.
Parker out.......glad he's onboard - he knows the team & our weaknesses....onwards & upwards
Quote from: Riversider on May 10, 2019, 03:15:00 PM
If Parker is going to be left alone to "manage" the club in a way that he sees fit and proper, then I'm fairly confident that he will be able to do a good job, but if he is going to be another "glove puppet " for Tony Khan then I fear for the future,
For example, if Mitrovic and Sessegnon leave this summer is that a decision made by Parker ? The decision to give Cairney a huge pay rise, was that made by Parker ?
Not a managerial decision that will have 100% support, so the first ten games of next season are absolutely vital if our season is going to gather a bit of momentum.
What manager buys and sells players today?
Just on Sky, the reporter outside Motspur who was in the pre match press conference, asked SP about transfers, and he said that the transfers will go through SP before anyone joins! Good news if true.
Quote from: brightster on May 10, 2019, 03:35:40 PM
Just on Sky, the reporter outside Motspur who was in the pre match press conference, asked SP about transfers, and he said that the transfers will go through SP before anyone joins! Good news if true.
They always went through the manager in the 3 boxes ticked exercise Slav just got the hump as he didn't get his way on players he wanted as they didn't stack up either on stats or Talbot and son didn't fancy a trip and just gave a bad scouting report
Excellent news in my opinion. I only hope that SK really means it when he says: "he will be given every opportunity to succeed at Fulham". That means time as well as appropriate resources to strengthen the squad.
Good luck to him.
Yes it's a risk, but it could also be the start of a great managerial career...
Good luck Scott Parker. Ok it could be seen as risky but Scott has the opportunity to be a decent manager where better than at Fulham
SP could be the next decent young Coach to come through, Hopefully another Howe affect.
Quote from: SuffolkWhite on May 10, 2019, 04:22:32 PM
SP could be the next decent young Coach to come through, Hopefully another Howe affect.
Well, that would be fantastic, Howe trains his team with super intensity ...... Good luck Scotty, you will need it.
Quote from: ..FOF.. on May 10, 2019, 02:18:30 PM
His first job should be to fully fill up all those missing backroom staff posts.
True enough and those coming in will be almost as interesting as those comings and goings on the pitch. SP obviously knows plenty of ex pro's but in undertaking his coaching qualifications in the way he has we may yet see a few more new, younger faces about the place. I still think a DoF as a buffer between TK and team affairs would be a useful appointment.
Good luck SP.
Good luck Scotty P, a man who knows what Fulham are about. I hope he can persuade Mitro to stay and gets all changes done early so the squad can have a proper pre season, not end up "gelling" during first ten games. COYW 049:gif
Very good news, Scott Parker obviously the best choice for us.
A win on Sunday would be nice but more important that Scotty immediately gets stuck into the comings and goings for next season, for once let us get our team assembled in good time.
Good luck to Scott. Ultimately we need some stability going in to next season and throughout the transfer window. I'm still not entirely convinced that he has what it takes to be a manager in the long term but he clearly has a lot more about him than the likes of Symons and Meulensteen who were clearly No 2s.
His backroom appointments are going to be key and I hope that one or two others can be persuaded to stick around for at least another season to give us our best shot of getting back to the PL. As long as Scott is backed by the club in the transfer market we should hopefully be able to look forward to a promotion chasing season.
He knows the club and the ins and outs and ups and downs of the system. He has the backing of the players, at least some of them who have come out publicly to support him. Whoever the club appointed would be a gamble at this time. Good luck to him and all we can do is support him at the start of his new career.
The good news is this decision has been made now, timing is good as players know who will be in charge. We need to rapidly get plays to commit for next season before they fly to whatever beach they will spend summer at and recruit who we need before training begins. Of course we will not see everything in place this quickly but the quicker the better and Scott being announced now gives that process a much better chance of success.
Quote from: Lyle from Hangeland on May 10, 2019, 03:27:50 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 10, 2019, 02:57:51 PM
"Fulham Appoints Scott Parker As Head Coach"
Memo to club - here in the UK the name of a football team is treated as a plural so can we drop the yanky "s" on "appoints" please. May as well change "Head Coach" to "Tony Khan's PA" whilst you're at it.
This kind of bigotry is uncalled for. Post without prejudice.
I agree. I'm pretty sure that I'm more pedantic than your average football fan, but picking on this is petty and appears to be agenda-driven. Certainly, in the recent past, papers like the Telegraph and Times often still used expressions like, "England wins". This may be grammatically correct - and sounds a bit pompous and elitist in the 21st Century - but it was certainly not influenced by our cousins across the Atlantic.
This appointment is what I wanted. For those "not convinced", after 10-or-so games, what do you expect ? If the Club had prevaricated/procrastinated on the matter then they would have upset far more fans by doing so.
Good luck to S. Parker!
That's item #1.
Now, time to get head start on the rebuild and so forth, so the club isn't waiting until the very last minute to complete what the roster will look like and have time to prepare for opening day in the Champ.
Ok I was a day early saying yesterday would be the best day to announce it
Good luck to SP, I think he will do well
Very happy with his appointment. I wish him all the luck. Glad we didn´t go for a journey man manager.
What he may lack in managerial experience is more than made up with his 20 years as a class player. He knows what the game is all about.
Quote from: filham on May 10, 2019, 05:30:20 PM
Very good news, Scott Parker obviously the best choice for us.
A win on Sunday would be nice but more important that Scotty immediately gets stuck into the comings and goings for next season, for once let us get our team assembled in good time.
:plus one:
Quote from: Statto on May 10, 2019, 02:57:51 PM
"Fulham Appoints Scott Parker As Head Coach"
Memo to club - here in the UK the name of a football team is treated as a plural so can we drop the yanky "s" on "appoints" please. May as well change "Head Coach" to "Tony Khan's PA" whilst you're at it.
"Fulham appoints" is simply bad grammar; even over here in the colonies. Your sense of superiority is neither accurate nor needed.
Considering Fulham tried to get Wenger again and were rebuffed, this is a decent appointment. Parker knows the players, Wenger may have dismantled what was good and brought in French mercenaries (as we did last season).
If Fulham keep this team that well under-achieved in the PL together, we should BLAST through the rabble that inhabit the reams of the Championship. Place your bets on now!!
I'm happy with scotty P. Only time will tell.
Whist he's been around a good few clubs , I feel he's part of the Fulham woodwork.
Good luck Scotty - you deserve the chance - but please, please ,don't sign Arter we have enough inter family problems without you making the same mistake. We don't need to look like an episode of the Waltons enough is enough
This could go horribly wrong, but I had a really big smile on my face when I read this news. Good Luck Scott!!!
I'm behind you 100%. 082.gif
Quote from: HV71 on May 10, 2019, 09:05:44 PM
Good luck Scotty - you deserve the chance - but please, please ,don't sign Arter we have enough inter family problems without you making the same mistake. We don't need to look like an episode of the Waltons enough is enough
Difference being, is that Arter is a very good player at that level, a few clubs will be after him. Upgrade on Stefjo, Kmac and Norwood, would be very interesting if he joined!
Quote from: YankeeJim on May 10, 2019, 08:07:01 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 10, 2019, 02:57:51 PM
"Fulham Appoints Scott Parker As Head Coach"
Memo to club - here in the UK the name of a football team is treated as a plural so can we drop the yanky "s" on "appoints" please. May as well change "Head Coach" to "Tony Khan's PA" whilst you're at it.
"Fulham appoints" is simply bad grammar; even over here in the colonies. Your sense of superiority is neither accurate nor needed.
If Fulham, (the club), did the appointing then it is singular and not plural, so 'appoints' is correct.
Quote from: Jimsbeerbelly on May 10, 2019, 09:26:28 PM
Quote from: HV71 on May 10, 2019, 09:05:44 PM
Good luck Scotty - you deserve the chance - but please, please ,don't sign Arter we have enough inter family problems without you making the same mistake. We don't need to look like an episode of the Waltons enough is enough
Difference being, is that Arter is a very good player at that level, a few clubs will be after him. Upgrade on Stefjo, Kmac and Norwood, would be very interesting if he joined!
This is what worries me if Scotty can't see the problem , like yourself, then we haven't appoint a manager with enough experience. I hope this is not the case .
Good News, congratulations Scotty. No rush to beam us up to the Premier, enjoy a period of learning and strengthening.
Is this Scott Parker celebrating in the nightclub tonight??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgeEsvLhGqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgeEsvLhGqs)
Quote from: Nick Bateman on May 10, 2019, 11:06:09 PM
Is this Scott Parker celebrating in the nightclub tonight??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgeEsvLhGqs (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgeEsvLhGqs)
Scot P Got some moves
Quote from: Frackleheath on May 10, 2019, 02:38:14 PM
Now let's get on with the rebuild job - sooner rather than later!! Sooner than we usually do, so the SP has a chance to get the team together BEFORE the season is upon us!!
Totally agree
Sent from my VTR-L09 using Tapatalk
Scott has a clear idea of the problems with the club, and what needs to be done, and has done well since he's been in charge.
He also seems to be able to communicate well with the players, and has their respect, and with the fans.
He is honest and gives his all as a manager, as he did as a player, and thus seems a good fit with Fulham's ethos.
He is also young, but has a lot of experience in the game at all levels,
An outsider would need time to find out the capabilities of the players, and what needs to be done.
Scot, if you're reading this. You'll know we're all behind you. A couple of us are a little worried about your lack of experience and whether the powers that be won't meddle too much with your plans to build a successful, promotion chasing team. I think what worries us the most though. Is how you're going to get to grips with the appalling lack of grammar, semantics and syntax that seem to be rife within the club we all love. Good luck mate. I've got a copy of "Eats, Shoots & Leaves" on the bookshelf if you need it.
Quote from: RaySmith on May 11, 2019, 04:46:07 AM
Scott has a clear idea of the problems with the club, and what needs to be done, and has done well since he's been in charge.
He also seems to be able to communicate well with the players, and has their respect, and with the fans.
He is honest and gives his all as a manager, as he did as a player, and thus seems a good fit with Fulham's ethos.
He is also young, but has a lot of experience in the game at all levels,
An outsider would need time to find out the capabilities of the players, and what needs to be done.
Good level headed post, and could not agree more.
Quote from: I Ronic on May 11, 2019, 08:36:52 AM
Scot, if you're reading this. You'll know we're all behind you. A couple of us are a little worried about your lack of experience and whether the powers that be won't meddle too much with your plans to build a successful, promotion chasing team. I think what worries us the most though. Is how you're going to get to grips with the appalling lack of grammar, semantics and syntax that seem to be rife within the club we all love. Good luck mate. I've got a copy of "Eats, Shoots & Leaves" on the bookshelf if you need it.
Good morning I Ronic, thank you for your kind words, and I share your concerns.
However, may I reassure you that players Semantics and Syntax will not be joining us after all, as I recently discovered that Semantics has unfortunately just failed his medical, as we eventually discovered after a full scan and research that he has a Wooden leg, which initially did not flag up on TKs stats.
As for Syntax, he refuses to join when he realised we play at least once a week, and the temperatures drop below 50 degrees Fahrenheit, as he does not posses a pair of gloves thick enough, which is another item that did not appear on TKs stats.
As for experience, I have forgotten more about football than the powers to be will ever learn.
Whether I will get a say in who joins, well your guess is as good as mine, as who can forecaste what will happen next in the land of the cuckoo.
So it's onwards and upwards, although I will check in my bathroom mirror three times a day after meals, if there are any switch blade knives sticking in my back.
This is a new era for the club, but only if nobody starts interfering, but that's another story.
I believe the Dugouts may be switched to the other side of the pitch in front of the Johnny Haynes stand, if construction commences on the Riverside. So we will all be joining the owners in having the sun in our eyes.
See you at Wembley some time soon.
Yours in Sport
Scott 🆘
Shouldn't that be "If nobody stats interfering" ?
Given time Scott Parker could become our own "Eddie Howe".
Cottage Industry
Congratulations Scott on achieving the Head Coach role at Fulham FFC. It is well deserved. In particular I have always liked the way you present yourself, because imo you typify how you wish to present Fulham FFC both on and off the pitch. The recent results have proved your point, with a vast improvement in attitude on the the field of play, together with a great response from the players to your training methods.
You have appointed worthy lieutenants whom appear to sing from the same song sheet and this augers well for the future.
You will of course have your ups and downs,but a great deal more ups than downs. I have every confidence that you will succeed and have the Fulham Faithful singing their hearts out on the banks of our lovely river Thames. Thank you for providing us all with hope for the future, and a legacy that we can all be proud of again.
Congratulations to Scott; looking forward to early considered decisions & top half finish. I'll stop taking the pills for the moment but will keep them in the medicine cabinet just in case.
Quote from: I Ronic on May 11, 2019, 12:09:44 PM
Shouldn't that be "If nobody stats interfering" ?
YES
Quote from: Cottage Industry on May 11, 2019, 03:28:50 PM
Cottage Industry
Congratulations Scott on achieving the Head Coach role at Fulham FFC. It is well deserved. In particular I have always liked the way you present yourself, because imo you typify how you wish to present Fulham FFC both on and off the pitch. The recent results have proved your point, with a vast improvement in attitude on the the field of play, together with a great response from the players to your training methods.
You have appointed worthy lieutenants whom appear to sing from the same song sheet and this augers well for the future.
You will of course have your ups and downs,but a great deal more ups than downs. I have every confidence that you will succeed and have the Fulham Faithful singing their hearts out on the banks of our lovely river Thames. Thank you for providing us all with hope for the future, and a legacy that we can all be proud of again.
Spot on.
Frank Lampard has got Derby into the playoffs in his first season as a manager so why not Scotty?
Quote from: sunburywhite on May 11, 2019, 06:58:54 PM
Frank Lampard has got Derby into the playoffs in his first season as a manager so why not Scotty?
I'd be gutted if Scotty got Derby into the playoffs next season. Unless that's pushing.them out of second on the final game of next season!
Quote from: I Ronic on May 11, 2019, 07:53:27 PM
Quote from: sunburywhite on May 11, 2019, 06:58:54 PM
Frank Lampard has got Derby into the playoffs in his first season as a manager so why not Scotty?
I'd be gutted if Scotty got Derby into the playoffs next season. Unless that's pushing.them out of second on the final game of next season!
Now that was Ironic.....
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on May 10, 2019, 02:26:23 PM
I'm happy for Scott that he gets the opportunity to manage at a club he's familiar with. He has earned this position by right.
I do however have mixed feelings about this because Tony Khan will probably still remain in his current role. Who knows if anything will change in terms of transfers??
Apologies if this comes across negative!
I echo these thoughts and concerns. On the positive side, I do wonder, however, whether TK will appreciate they now have a head coach who has Fulham in his heart and engage him more in player scouting and choice, which would be better for all, especially the club and fans.
Quote from: Statto on May 10, 2019, 10:44:39 PM
Quote from: ealex40 on May 10, 2019, 10:01:36 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on May 10, 2019, 08:07:01 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 10, 2019, 02:57:51 PM
"Fulham Appoints Scott Parker As Head Coach"
Memo to club - here in the UK the name of a football team is treated as a plural so can we drop the yanky "s" on "appoints" please. May as well change "Head Coach" to "Tony Khan's PA" whilst you're at it.
"Fulham appoints" is simply bad grammar; even over here in the colonies. Your sense of superiority is neither accurate nor needed.
If Fulham, (the club), did the appointing then it is singular and not plural, so 'appoints' is correct.
What if it was Fulham (the team)?
Given "Fulham" can mean one club, 11 players, tens of thousands of fans or even a place, I suspect there are reasonable arguments both for treating it as plural, and for treating it as singular.
Two things about which we can have a much higher degree of certainty are:
1. In the UK (these days) it's conventional in contexts like this, to treat it as plural and say "appoint"
2. In the US (which I'm guessing is where you are) it's conventional to treat it as singular and say "appoints"
Unless we're talking about some other Fulham who play their home matches in the US, we should be doing it the UK way.
I always believed that Appoints is as per the third person, and as such, when a person, not being involved in the story itself, tells that story, they are in the third person, and so Appoints is the correct term to use.
Thus, the headline would be correct if it was the provided by a person not being either the club or Khan himself, therefore, if this is a club Press release it needs to be Appoint (as they are a character in the story) or if it was a statement by the OP, a news outlet or another club, then Appoints would be the correct term to use.
As an aside, please stop yank-baiting, this has nothing to do with UK or US language per se, but simply a misuse of the context.
Quote from: Logicalman on May 12, 2019, 01:07:45 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 10, 2019, 10:44:39 PM
Quote from: ealex40 on May 10, 2019, 10:01:36 PM
Quote from: YankeeJim on May 10, 2019, 08:07:01 PM
Quote from: Statto on May 10, 2019, 02:57:51 PM
"Fulham Appoints Scott Parker As Head Coach"
Memo to club - here in the UK the name of a football team is treated as a plural so can we drop the yanky "s" on "appoints" please. May as well change "Head Coach" to "Tony Khan's PA" whilst you're at it.
"Fulham appoints" is simply bad grammar; even over here in the colonies. Your sense of superiority is neither accurate nor needed.
If Fulham, (the club), did the appointing then it is singular and not plural, so 'appoints' is correct.
What if it was Fulham (the team)?
Given "Fulham" can mean one club, 11 players, tens of thousands of fans or even a place, I suspect there are reasonable arguments both for treating it as plural, and for treating it as singular.
Two things about which we can have a much higher degree of certainty are:
1. In the UK (these days) it's conventional in contexts like this, to treat it as plural and say "appoint"
2. In the US (which I'm guessing is where you are) it's conventional to treat it as singular and say "appoints"
Unless we're talking about some other Fulham who play their home matches in the US, we should be doing it the UK way.
I always believed that Appoints is as per the third person, and as such, when a person, not being involved in the story itself, tells that story, they are in the third person, and so Appoints is the correct term to use.
Thus, the headline would be correct if it was the provided by a person not being either the club or Khan himself, therefore, if this is a club Press release it needs to be Appoint (as they are a character in the story) or if it was a statement by the OP, a news outlet or another club, then Appoints would be the correct term to use.
As an aside, please stop yank-baiting, this has nothing to do with UK or US language per se, but simply a misuse of the context.
'John appoints a new doorman' is the correct form of the verb irrespective of who says it.
John, himself, would, of course, most likely say, 'I am appointing a new doorman'. But if he were to use the present simple tense, it would be, 'I appoint an new doorman'. There are, however, no circumstances in which 'John appoint a new doorman' is correct. (At least, not without a comma: 'John, appoint a new doorman'; this being a command, not a statement.)
The words 'club', 'team' and 'group' (of players) are all singular and, strictly speaking, should take the third-person singular form of any verb. So widespread and prolific, however, is the association of these words with 'players' that the use of the third-person plural has become acceptable in all but the most formal of announcements.
I agree with I Ronic when he says that that the appointment of Scott Parker now ought to give him enough time to sort out the grammar, syntax and punctuation within the Club before new players begin arriving. God forbid, we get the headline on the offal: 'Fulham sells Mitrovic'.
Quote from: Statto on May 12, 2019, 03:19:34 PM
Quote from: Logicalman on May 12, 2019, 01:07:45 PM
As an aside, please stop yank-baiting, this has nothing to do with UK or US language per se, but simply a misuse of the context.
The US and UK versions of English have diverged substantially, so I didn't think it unreasonable or "yank-baiting" to ask that UK spelling and conventions are used in press releases like this one. Evidently I was wrong and, in fact, poking a hornets' nest of posters who, despite being citizens of a leading global superpower, still have a massive inferiority complex vis-a-vis the British. To avoid offending anyone, going forward I'll use US English. I'll use words like "cleats" and "roster" instead of "boots" or "squad", and I'll also refer to our black players as "colored", which I understand is still a socially acceptable term in the US. I apologise - sorry I mean apologize - for upsetting people.
That's put a wrench in the works!
