The Club have explained to us that next season there will be no mixed area in The Putney End, just a Home section and an away section, which is fair enough,
But they have also stated that the concourse behind the stand is going to be totally mixed, but they haven't really explained how this utopia is going to work, so does anybody know ?
I'm hoping we have a first half next season whereby we are 2 or 3 up at half time, especially if it's against QPR, Leeds, Derby or Luton , then all the supporters mix do they when they go off for their pint or their cuppa ? Doesn't make sense to me , and I neglected to even mention Millwall or Cardiff !
But just imagine we end up in the play offs again with all the drama and tension they bring, for the life of me I can not begin to imagine how a mixed concourse would work that night, any ideas ?
Please don't use the word "stewards " in any reply, thank you.
I agree whole heartedly with post. If the club think even in todays football that there's not likely to be flash points before during and after the game at the Putney end then they must be deluded and held responsible for any trouble. I fail to see why they could not partition the entrance in and the concourse.
The only slight positive and it is slight is that away fans will not be there in large numbers.
Quote from: JimmyConway on June 19, 2019, 11:08:37 AM
I agree whole heartedly with post. If the club think even in todays football that there's not likely to be flash points before during and after the game at the Putney end then they must be deluded and held responsible for any trouble. I fail to see why they could not partition the entrance in and the concourse.
The only slight positive and it is slight is that away fans will not be there in large numbers.
What is capacity for away fans?
Imagine it will be sold out most weeks in away section.
Away fans love a day out at the Cottage.
Is there really gonna be home and away mixed in the Putney concourse!!!?? That will be chaos
Quote from: JimmyConway on June 19, 2019, 11:08:37 AM
I agree whole heartedly with post. If the club think even in todays football that there's not likely to be flash points before during and after the game at the Putney end then they must be deluded and held responsible for any trouble. I fail to see why they could not partition the entrance in and the concourse.
The only slight positive and it is slight is that away fans will not be there in large numbers.
Sorry but hasn't the Putney End been mixed with Fulham fans, Neutral fans, and the Visiting team fans sharing the same concourse???
Quote from: KJS on June 19, 2019, 12:13:30 PM
Quote from: JimmyConway on June 19, 2019, 11:08:37 AM
I agree whole heartedly with post. If the club think even in todays football that there's not likely to be flash points before during and after the game at the Putney end then they must be deluded and held responsible for any trouble. I fail to see why they could not partition the entrance in and the concourse.
The only slight positive and it is slight is that away fans will not be there in large numbers.
Sorry but hasn't the Putney End been mixed with Fulham fans, Neutral fans, and the Visiting team fans sharing the same concourse???
Yes it has. At times it is close to a 50/50 mix but more often than not we are/were the minority and with the mix P1 and P2 attracted we were miles off a posse, massive, crew whatever. Apart from the odd alcohol induced spat I have not seen too many problems although of course of late we have had very little to goad the opposition about. Cardiff were actually a good crowd and Millwall you just ignore but I do agree there might be more of an edge with the perpetual failures of Leeds and Derby and the new boys looking to flex their collective muscle if we are doing well against them by half time. Over the last couple of seasons there does seem to be a return of the yob developing.
In my experience, which to be fair was limited last season, there is more angst about the queue, don't queue methodology for the food outlets and the prehistoric toilets.
The Thames Valley Travellers will be out in force :005:
Quote from: Riversider on June 19, 2019, 10:35:17 AM
The Club have explained to us that next season there will be no mixed area in The Putney End, just a Home section and an away section, which is fair enough,
But they have also stated that the concourse behind the stand is going to be totally mixed
I agree with the confusion.
I thought perhaps they'd install another temporary exit taking away fans out through the park, so they could segregate fans under the stand.
Either that, or continue to hold out the "home" section as neutral, although that would seem impossible if they're ST holders
I understood the reason for us having a neutral section was that FA/FL rules prohibit us from putting home and away fans in the same stand without segregation.
Does anyone have the club's comments in full that they could copy-paste here, perhaps? I haven't seen them.
There is no confusion. Everyone just behaves themselves or gets banned.
Quote from: Andy S on June 19, 2019, 05:45:07 PM
There is no confusion. Everyone just behaves themselves or gets banned.
Why would an away supporter be worried about being banned from Craven Cottage ?
I don't really see how the set up will be different from before - during various prem games tickets were sold only to Fulham fans and the same as at the play off vs derby when fans mixed freely on the concourse. I recall sitting in Putney end for a Brentford game as well when fans mixed. Similarly qpr at home sold out. I don't recall there being in trouble on the mixed concourse. Still, we'll see what happens when billy big bollocks Leeds or millwall pay us a visit.
I'm more wondering if the riversiders realise that everyone is going to be standing up....
Quote from: Riversider on June 20, 2019, 12:52:18 AM
Quote from: Andy S on June 19, 2019, 05:45:07 PM
There is no confusion. Everyone just behaves themselves or gets banned.
Why would an away supporter be worried about being banned from Craven Cottage ?
Banning orders from any football ground. Like the cardiff fans who were just banned for spitting at an assaulting a man Utd fan.
Quote from: CorkCity on June 19, 2019, 01:35:13 PM
The Thames Valley Travellers will be out in force :005:
That would be quite funny as by now comfort breaks, just the one pint, walking aids and being home by 7pm would be the order of the day. Oh and the confrontation.
Away fan with the old arms out posture " come on then!!!".
TVT response. "Pardon". Looks to his sidekick "What did he say?.
"He said come on then".
"Where we going, I need the loo first"
Quote from: flyingfish on June 20, 2019, 08:51:36 AM
Quote from: Riversider on June 20, 2019, 12:52:18 AM
Quote from: Andy S on June 19, 2019, 05:45:07 PM
There is no confusion. Everyone just behaves themselves or gets banned.
Why would an away supporter be worried about being banned from Craven Cottage ?
Banning orders from any football ground. Like the cardiff fans who were just banned for spitting at an assaulting a man Utd fan.
So why do we (or why does any club) bother to segregate fans in any part of the ground, if they can just rely on banning orders to stop trouble?
Quote from: flyingfish on June 20, 2019, 08:49:45 AM
I'm more wondering if the riversiders realise that everyone is going to be standing up....
As a sedate Riversider, transferred against his will to the Putney End, I must ask if it is common practice for the home hoi polloi there to stand frequently. As a 66 year-old I get hacked off with having to stand to watch a game - something which never happened at the Riverside - even for the goal action.
I guess this question will be answered on 21st August!
Quote from: Statto on June 20, 2019, 12:17:12 PM
Quote from: flyingfish on June 20, 2019, 08:51:36 AM
Quote from: Riversider on June 20, 2019, 12:52:18 AM
Quote from: Andy S on June 19, 2019, 05:45:07 PM
There is no confusion. Everyone just behaves themselves or gets banned.
Why would an away supporter be worried about being banned from Craven Cottage ?
Banning orders from any football ground. Like the cardiff fans who were just banned for spitting at an assaulting a man Utd fan.
So why do we (or why does any club) bother to segregate fans in any part of the ground, if they can just rely on banning orders to stop trouble?
Agreed but I was just making the point that the option wouldn't just be to ban from craven cottage.
Quote from: ScalleysDad on June 20, 2019, 10:27:03 AM
Quote from: CorkCity on June 19, 2019, 01:35:13 PM
The Thames Valley Travellers will be out in force :005:
That would be quite funny as by now comfort breaks, just the one pint, walking aids and being home by 7pm would be the order of the day. Oh and the confrontation.
Away fan with the old arms out posture " come on then!!!".
TVT response. "Pardon". Looks to his sidekick "What did he say?.
"He said come on then".
"Where we going, I need the loo first"
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In short? Badly.
Quote from: Neil D on June 20, 2019, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: flyingfish on June 20, 2019, 08:49:45 AM
I'm more wondering if the riversiders realise that everyone is going to be standing up....
As a sedate Riversider, transferred against his will to the Putney End, I must ask if it is common practice for the home hoi polloi there to stand frequently. As a 66 year-old I get hacked off with having to stand to watch a game - something which never happened at the Riverside - even for the goal action.
when I renewed my ST and mentioned this problem I was told the club are aware and will clamp down on any persistant standing
Quote from: johnmac on June 20, 2019, 07:38:52 PM
Quote from: Neil D on June 20, 2019, 12:24:31 PM
Quote from: flyingfish on June 20, 2019, 08:49:45 AM
I'm more wondering if the riversiders realise that everyone is going to be standing up....
As a sedate Riversider, transferred against his will to the Putney End, I must ask if it is common practice for the home hoi polloi there to stand frequently. As a 66 year-old I get hacked off with having to stand to watch a game - something which never happened at the Riverside - even for the goal action.
when I renewed my ST and mentioned this problem I was told the club are aware and will clamp down on any persistant standing
I would suggest that is a very optimistic approach from the Club. Last time round in the Championship If the fan mix favoured the opposition they invariably stood unhindered hence the noise and atmosphere they often created. Away fans were frequently fairly well represented in home areas but qUite often those that wanted to sing simply merged into the allocated blocks so that worked out quite well. Often away fans around us swapped seats so that older fans could sit in P1/P2/P3. However for the most part it was sort of self policing. From what I have seen only a handful of stewards have the skills necessary to resolve issues with agitated fans, many stewards look bored to death most of the time. I really hope we do not see lines of Met Police on the concourse as the Clubs solution.
Why don't they put a temporary boxing ring at about the halfway point behind the stand, I'm sure there would be no end of half cut away supporters ready to jump into the ring where some of the knowledgeable Queensbury rules types relocated from the Riverside stand will be more than happy to jump into the ring and punch one of the blighters on their nose. They could cut the ridiculously loud pre match and halftime music and screen it as entertainment instead. The only downside is the crowd would probably find this more entertaining than the football!
