No surprises - we don't make a fist of anything.
Well, it's hardly a surprise is it? That's why some of us have been saying all week to play the youth team, preserve morale and energy levels for the games that are actually important.
Joke. Parker needs his head wobbled for this ludicrous nonsense.
Are any of our players premier league quality other than Mitro ?
Quote from: howitis on January 26, 2020, 01:29:52 PM
Are any of our players premier league quality other than Mitro ?
Fair.
Couple of potentials but, yeah, good point.
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
To be honest 2-0 down with 10 men isn't half bad
Actually I think we've shown some spirit and some nice touches occasionally. We all knew They had to have an off day for us to have any chance and that isn't happening. But comments like "pathetic", no way.
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
I actually agree with you,because of current circumstances. It's the more half in,half out kind of approach we take.
Either go all out with the first 11 or play the kids and basically admit defeat. Instead we play the first 11,get more tired,pick up injuries,exit in an embarrassing fashion,while basically waving a white flag with the mentality we show in these games.
It's the faux seriousness that annoys me. Probably didn't explain my point before being hammered lol :).
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
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:plus one:
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
Yes, that's exactly what we should have done. The 10-0 would have had zero impact on morale and energy levels/injuries then.
If we lose against Huddersfield now, this is on folks like you to be honest.
Got to be honest, didn't expect anything out of this game, surprised by how strong a lineup we have started considering our injury problems, would have preferred a weaker lineup and concentrate on next weeks game, as some have said this is a nothing fixture. Saying that fairplay to the supporters that have traveled to this game.
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
Yes, that's exactly what we should have done. The 10-0 would have had zero impact on morale and energy levels/injuries then.
If we lose against Huddersfield now, this is on folks like you to be honest.
What a load of total cobblers.
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Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
Yes, that's exactly what we should have done. The 10-0 would have had zero impact on morale and energy levels/injuries then.
If we lose against Huddersfield now, this is on folks like you to be honest.
What a load of total cobblers.
I dearly hope you're right. We'll find out next weekend.
Lets be honest, SP had a catch 22 decision to make.
Do what he's done today and hope the players make a good showing, and hold the score down to something reasonable, or send the kids out for an absolute walloping and miserable day.
Either way we were not going to get anything out of this game as Pep needs some silver for the cabinet this season, and the FAC is a good prize to get (the starters he's picked show that).
SP couldn't have figured in the poor decision of one player, so all he, and we, can look for is holding this down to somewhere south of 4 goals now, which would be an achievement given we're playing 84 minutes with 10 men.
Seeing SP at the end of the first half waiting to see each player off the pitch was good to see, a nice touch for a coach that appreciates how hard this is for the players.
Hope Parker is now fully concentrating on Huddersfiel as there are going to be no positives for him to bring home today.
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:24:40 PM
Well, it's hardly a surprise is it? That's why some of us have been saying all week to play the youth team, preserve morale and energy levels for the games that are actually important.
Joke. Parker needs his head wobbled for this ludicrous nonsense.
Disagree and a poor attitude, what energy levels are you talking about, they are well conditioned athletes, all this mollycoddling and wrapping players up in cotton wool sends out the wrong message to the players. Strong Spartan mentality is required namby pamby excuses for them, we haven't got a match until next Saturday, dear or dear I shake my head in disbelief.
Exactly as you say we were always on for a hiding to nothing today. Take it on the chin and on to the next one
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 26, 2020, 02:02:19 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:24:40 PM
Well, it's hardly a surprise is it? That's why some of us have been saying all week to play the youth team, preserve morale and energy levels for the games that are actually important.
Joke. Parker needs his head wobbled for this ludicrous nonsense.
Disagree and a poor attitude, what energy levels are you talking about, they are well conditioned athletes, all this mollycoddling and wrapping players up in cotton wool sends out the wrong message to the players. Strong Spartan mentality is required namby pamby excuses for them, we haven't got a match until next Saturday, dear or dear I shake my head in disbelief.
Ok, boomer,
I love how nobody read my post to elaborate my point (lol) before lobbing me off the metaphorical cliff.
This is peak FoF and you love to see it :)
Quote from: Twig on January 26, 2020, 01:52:14 PM
Actually I think we've shown some spirit and some nice touches occasionally. We all knew They had to have an off day for us to have any chance and that isn't happening. But comments like "pathetic", no way.
+1
It's the manner of these defeats each year in the cup. We just don't have the right attitude and it stems from somewhere.
Watching the teams come out at half time - I saw Cavaleiro laughing in the tunnel with 2 city players. Pep runs up tunnel pulls Man City players aside and gestures to them that they need to get focussed.
If only I sensed something similar from our mob. Zero leadership all around the club.
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
Yes, that's exactly what we should have done. The 10-0 would have had zero impact on morale and energy levels/injuries then.
If we lose against Huddersfield now, this is on folks like you to be honest.
If we lose to Huddersfield its down to me.
And the ludicrous post of the year goes to. 064.gif
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
Yes, that's exactly what we should have done. The 10-0 would have had zero impact on morale and energy levels/injuries then.
If we lose against Huddersfield now, this is on folks like you to be honest.
"This is on folks like you" - an inane comment. We don't play for, coach or manage Fulham.
I suppose it would be great for morale to tell our first choice team that we want them to get promotion, but they aren't good enough to play against Man City, because we are scared they will get a hammering
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 02:15:00 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
Yes, that's exactly what we should have done. The 10-0 would have had zero impact on morale and energy levels/injuries then.
If we lose against Huddersfield now, this is on folks like you to be honest.
If we lose to Huddersfield its down to me.
And the ludicrous post of the year goes to. 064.gif
That's not quite what I said but, yes, if you break it down, the pressure the club would feel at the backlash from fans with the outdated 'Dunkirk Spirit' mindset, magic of the cup nonsense, no doubt played at least a small part in the selection. So, when that has the impact half the board predicated in the next couple of weeks, yes, you should stomach some of the blame.
You won't of course. You'll dismiss it as nonsense. No doubt as you will when some other non-football related chickens come home to roost post 31st Jan ;)
(and yes, that's presumptuous but I'd bet all I own on getting that right about you and the other folk talking about 'Spartan Spirit' and other tosh.
Quote from: Plodder on January 26, 2020, 02:19:33 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
Yes, that's exactly what we should have done. The 10-0 would have had zero impact on morale and energy levels/injuries then.
If we lose against Huddersfield now, this is on folks like you to be honest.
"This is on folks like you" - an inane comment. We don't play for, coach or manage Fulham.
I suppose it would be great for morale to tell our first choice team that we want them to get promotion, but they aren't good enough to play against Man City, because we are scared they will get a hammering
Not an inane comment really. See my reply above for more thorough breakdown. If you think fan pressure counts for nothing, you're underestimating the impact.
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 02:15:00 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
Yes, that's exactly what we should have done. The 10-0 would have had zero impact on morale and energy levels/injuries then.
If we lose against Huddersfield now, this is on folks like you to be honest.
If we lose to Huddersfield its down to me.
And the ludicrous post of the year goes to. 064.gif
That's not quite what I said but, yes, if you break it down, the pressure the club would feel at the backlash from fans with the outdated 'Dunkirk Spirit' mindset, magic of the cup nonsense, no doubt played at least a small part in the selection. So, when that has the impact half the board predicated in the next couple of weeks, yes, you should stomach some of the blame.
You won't of course. You'll dismiss it as nonsense. No doubt as you will when some other non-football related chickens come home to roost post 31st Jan ;)
(and yes, that's presumptuous but I'd bet all I own on getting that right about you and the other folk talking about 'Spartan Spirit' and other tosh.
If you detest FA Cup why bother posting about it just move on....
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 02:26:45 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 02:15:00 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
Yes, that's exactly what we should have done. The 10-0 would have had zero impact on morale and energy levels/injuries then.
If we lose against Huddersfield now, this is on folks like you to be honest.
If we lose to Huddersfield its down to me.
And the ludicrous post of the year goes to. 064.gif
That's not quite what I said but, yes, if you break it down, the pressure the club would feel at the backlash from fans with the outdated 'Dunkirk Spirit' mindset, magic of the cup nonsense, no doubt played at least a small part in the selection. So, when that has the impact half the board predicated in the next couple of weeks, yes, you should stomach some of the blame.
You won't of course. You'll dismiss it as nonsense. No doubt as you will when some other non-football related chickens come home to roost post 31st Jan ;)
(and yes, that's presumptuous but I'd bet all I own on getting that right about you and the other folk talking about 'Spartan Spirit' and other tosh.
If you detest FA Cup why bother posting about it just move on....
Blimey, I don't detest the FA Cup! If we had nothing pressing (you know, like promotion before the parachute payments run out and we lose half the first team), then I'd be well up for throwing everything at it! We have seriously more pressing matters at the moment. We were drawn against a team that we would have very little chance against as they have three teams better than ours (the most expensive squad in football history) AND we have an injury crisis. On top of that, after many years of not having any, we were just starting to build some confidence within the defence and keeper.
My point all along was; why risk damaging all or any of that, on a ridiculous pipe dream of winning the cup?
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 02:30:21 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 02:26:45 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 02:15:00 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
Yes, that's exactly what we should have done. The 10-0 would have had zero impact on morale and energy levels/injuries then.
If we lose against Huddersfield now, this is on folks like you to be honest.
If we lose to Huddersfield its down to me.
And the ludicrous post of the year goes to. 064.gif
That's not quite what I said but, yes, if you break it down, the pressure the club would feel at the backlash from fans with the outdated 'Dunkirk Spirit' mindset, magic of the cup nonsense, no doubt played at least a small part in the selection. So, when that has the impact half the board predicated in the next couple of weeks, yes, you should stomach some of the blame.
You won't of course. You'll dismiss it as nonsense. No doubt as you will when some other non-football related chickens come home to roost post 31st Jan ;)
(and yes, that's presumptuous but I'd bet all I own on getting that right about you and the other folk talking about 'Spartan Spirit' and other tosh.
If you detest FA Cup why bother posting about it just move on....
Blimey, I don't detest the FA Cup! If we had nothing pressing (you know, like promotion before the parachute payments run out and we lose half the first team), then I'd be well up for throwing everything at it! We have seriously more pressing matters at the moment. We were drawn against a team that we would have very little chance against as they have three teams better than ours (the most expensive squad in football history) AND we have an injury crisis. On top of that, after many years of not having any, we were just starting to build some confidence within the defence and keeper.
My point all along was; why risk damaging all or any of that, on a ridiculous pipe dream of winning the cup?
There is no correlation between performance in the FA Cup and in the league. Some teams do well in both, some go out early (like us last year) and still flop in the league. Losing to Aston Villa would not have given us any more league points, not increased the likelihood of it happening.
Quote from: Plodder on January 26, 2020, 02:43:08 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 02:30:21 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 02:26:45 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 02:15:00 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
Yes, that's exactly what we should have done. The 10-0 would have had zero impact on morale and energy levels/injuries then.
If we lose against Huddersfield now, this is on folks like you to be honest.
If we lose to Huddersfield its down to me.
And the ludicrous post of the year goes to. 064.gif
That's not quite what I said but, yes, if you break it down, the pressure the club would feel at the backlash from fans with the outdated 'Dunkirk Spirit' mindset, magic of the cup nonsense, no doubt played at least a small part in the selection. So, when that has the impact half the board predicated in the next couple of weeks, yes, you should stomach some of the blame.
You won't of course. You'll dismiss it as nonsense. No doubt as you will when some other non-football related chickens come home to roost post 31st Jan ;)
(and yes, that's presumptuous but I'd bet all I own on getting that right about you and the other folk talking about 'Spartan Spirit' and other tosh.
If you detest FA Cup why bother posting about it just move on....
Blimey, I don't detest the FA Cup! If we had nothing pressing (you know, like promotion before the parachute payments run out and we lose half the first team), then I'd be well up for throwing everything at it! We have seriously more pressing matters at the moment. We were drawn against a team that we would have very little chance against as they have three teams better than ours (the most expensive squad in football history) AND we have an injury crisis. On top of that, after many years of not having any, we were just starting to build some confidence within the defence and keeper.
My point all along was; why risk damaging all or any of that, on a ridiculous pipe dream of winning the cup?
There is no correlation between performance in the FA Cup and in the league. Some teams do well in both, some go out early (like us last year) and still flop in the league. Losing to Aston Villa would not have given us any more league points, not increased the likelihood of it happening.
Cool. Save this post and let's come back to it next weekend and over the next couple of weeks.
Quote from: Plodder on January 26, 2020, 02:43:08 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 02:30:21 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 02:26:45 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 02:21:00 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 02:15:00 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:54:16 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 01:47:41 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:41:21 PM
Quote from: Mr K.Dilkington on January 26, 2020, 01:38:46 PM
And some people still wonder why not many people fancy going to these types of games. For years,domestically,I swear we've played to lose. I get prioritizing premier league survival/Promotion,but I agree that it is pathetic/embarrassing for the club to have this mindset.
Complete opposite opinion here, I've said all week on the board - not a single first team player should have played today. Nothing game. Going to derail the promotion but with effect on morale and energy levels. For what, some outdated romantic notion? Nonsense.
What absolute nonsense.
Should we have sent all the kids up and get walloped
10-0...They've got a strong side out,there 2nd eleven would nearly win premier.
Yes, that's exactly what we should have done. The 10-0 would have had zero impact on morale and energy levels/injuries then.
If we lose against Huddersfield now, this is on folks like you to be honest.
If we lose to Huddersfield its down to me.
And the ludicrous post of the year goes to. 064.gif
That's not quite what I said but, yes, if you break it down, the pressure the club would feel at the backlash from fans with the outdated 'Dunkirk Spirit' mindset, magic of the cup nonsense, no doubt played at least a small part in the selection. So, when that has the impact half the board predicated in the next couple of weeks, yes, you should stomach some of the blame.
You won't of course. You'll dismiss it as nonsense. No doubt as you will when some other non-football related chickens come home to roost post 31st Jan ;)
(and yes, that's presumptuous but I'd bet all I own on getting that right about you and the other folk talking about 'Spartan Spirit' and other tosh.
If you detest FA Cup why bother posting about it just move on....
Blimey, I don't detest the FA Cup! If we had nothing pressing (you know, like promotion before the parachute payments run out and we lose half the first team), then I'd be well up for throwing everything at it! We have seriously more pressing matters at the moment. We were drawn against a team that we would have very little chance against as they have three teams better than ours (the most expensive squad in football history) AND we have an injury crisis. On top of that, after many years of not having any, we were just starting to build some confidence within the defence and keeper.
My point all along was; why risk damaging all or any of that, on a ridiculous pipe dream of winning the cup?
There is no correlation between performance in the FA Cup and in the league. Some teams do well in both, some go out early (like us last year) and still flop in the league. Losing to Aston Villa would not have given us any more league points, not increased the likelihood of it happening.
Actually, just saw you mentioned Villa too in that. My mind boggles. Do you honestly believe the Villa result performance had no impact on the results and clean sheets after?
Staggering.
ByTheRiver, using your logic, you are claiming we would have more points if we had lost to Villa because the FA Cup is a distraction. Now you seem to be claiming it helped us to take more points and keep more clean sheets. Which is it?
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 02:03:00 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 26, 2020, 02:02:19 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:24:40 PM
Well, it's hardly a surprise is it? That's why some of us have been saying all week to play the youth team, preserve morale and energy levels for the games that are actually important.
Joke. Parker needs his head wobbled for this ludicrous nonsense.
Disagree and a poor attitude, what energy levels are you talking about, they are well conditioned athletes, all this mollycoddling and wrapping players up in cotton wool sends out the wrong message to the players. Strong Spartan mentality is required namby pamby excuses for them, we haven't got a match until next Saturday, dear or dear I shake my head in disbelief.
Ok, boomer,
Your welcome, however, consider yourself yellow carded for dissent and warned of your future conduct. it was almost a red, but despite Fulhams scoreline today I am in a reasonable mood, ggrrr.
Quote from: Plodder on January 26, 2020, 02:50:57 PM
ByTheRiver, using your logic, you are claiming we would have more points if we had lost to Villa because the FA Cup is a distraction. Now you seem to be claiming it helped us to take more points and keep more clean sheets. Which is it?
Are you simple? I'm saying results are results when the first team players are involved and all have an impact on morale and confidence because players are human beings and not robots.
Winning and looking solid against a premier league outfit had a positive impact. Getting whacked and looking a shambles at the back, as we were always going to regardless of team put out, is going to have a negative impact on a defence finally finding its feet.
Play the youths and today doesn't matter. Play the main defence and all confidence evaporates. Look around the board, people now even talking ill of Hector and Rodak.
It's not as binary as FA cup is important or isn't. It's each game on its own merits. Today was a mistake. Anyone with a half a brain will now agree with the benefit of hindsight. Some of us didn't need hindsight.
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 26, 2020, 02:55:50 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 02:03:00 PM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on January 26, 2020, 02:02:19 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:24:40 PM
Well, it's hardly a surprise is it? That's why some of us have been saying all week to play the youth team, preserve morale and energy levels for the games that are actually important.
Joke. Parker needs his head wobbled for this ludicrous nonsense.
Disagree and a poor attitude, what energy levels are you talking about, they are well conditioned athletes, all this mollycoddling and wrapping players up in cotton wool sends out the wrong message to the players. Strong Spartan mentality is required namby pamby excuses for them, we haven't got a match until next Saturday, dear or dear I shake my head in disbelief.
Ok, boomer,
Your welcome, however, consider yourself yellow carded for dissent and warned of your future conduct. it was almost a red, but despite Fulhams scoreline today I am in a reasonable mood, ggrrr.
Yellow carded for having a different opinion? Figures...
Lets keep this civil (well as civil as can be expected). Personal attacks or comments regarding another posters mental ability will be removed, simple as that.
A lot of players had poor games even though we did have only 10 men. Thought we were weak in the tackle and the third goal was offside.
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: Plodder on January 26, 2020, 02:50:57 PM
ByTheRiver, using your logic, you are claiming we would have more points if we had lost to Villa because the FA Cup is a distraction. Now you seem to be claiming it helped us to take more points and keep more clean sheets. Which is it?
Are you simple? I'm saying results are results when the first team players are involved and all have an impact on morale and confidence because players are human beings and not robots.
Winning and looking solid against a premier league outfit had a positive impact. Getting whacked and looking a shambles at the back, as we were always going to regardless of team put out, is going to have a negative impact on a defence finally finding its feet.
Play the youths and today doesn't matter. Play the main defence and all confidence evaporates. Look around the board, people now even talking ill of Hector and Rodak.
It's not as binary as FA cup is important or isn't. It's each game on its own merits. Today was a mistake. Anyone with a half a brain will now agree with the benefit of hindsight. Some of us didn't need hindsight.
Let's give up on the discussion about the rights and wrongs of team selection. No point in having an argument if I am "simple" and don't even have "half a brain". Evidently you consider by far the intellectual superior to those of us who take a different point of view.
Quote from: Plodder on January 26, 2020, 03:07:21 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 02:56:15 PM
Quote from: Plodder on January 26, 2020, 02:50:57 PM
ByTheRiver, using your logic, you are claiming we would have more points if we had lost to Villa because the FA Cup is a distraction. Now you seem to be claiming it helped us to take more points and keep more clean sheets. Which is it?
Are you simple? I'm saying results are results when the first team players are involved and all have an impact on morale and confidence because players are human beings and not robots.
Winning and looking solid against a premier league outfit had a positive impact. Getting whacked and looking a shambles at the back, as we were always going to regardless of team put out, is going to have a negative impact on a defence finally finding its feet.
Play the youths and today doesn't matter. Play the main defence and all confidence evaporates. Look around the board, people now even talking ill of Hector and Rodak.
It's not as binary as FA cup is important or isn't. It's each game on its own merits. Today was a mistake. Anyone with a half a brain will now agree with the benefit of hindsight. Some of us didn't need hindsight.
Let's give up on the discussion about the rights and wrongs of team selection. No point in having an argument if I am "simple" and don't even have "half a brain". Evidently you consider by far the intellectual superior to those of us who take a different point of view.
I haven't said that, merely that the nonsensical dig at me/my post made you seem that way. But let's leave it, we're not going to agree on this so let's not clog up the board.
Let's hooe you're right and we go into Huddersfield as if today never happened and do the business.
By the River....If we dump Huddersfield 4-0,what will you say?.......
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 03:11:32 PM
But let's leave it, we're not going to agree on this so let's not clog up the board.
At least we can agree on not clogging up the board and hoping for a good result next week.
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:24:40 PM
Well, it's hardly a surprise is it? That's why some of us have been saying all week to play the youth team, preserve morale and energy levels for the games that are actually important.
Joke. Parker needs his head wobbled for this ludicrous nonsense.
Bad bad take and a good example of someone who's never played the game.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 26, 2020, 03:18:06 PM
By the River....If we dump Huddersfield 4-0,what will you say?.......
I will come on here, hold my hands up, admit I was wrong and got worked up at 12pm team sheet time over nothing. I'll also be delighted and several celebratory beers down!
Quote from: Fulhamerica on January 26, 2020, 03:23:02 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 01:24:40 PM
Well, it's hardly a surprise is it? That's why some of us have been saying all week to play the youth team, preserve morale and energy levels for the games that are actually important.
Joke. Parker needs his head wobbled for this ludicrous nonsense.
Bad bad take and a good example of someone who's never played the game.
Hah. How wrong you can be... So, in return: bad bad take and a good example of someone who should probably stick to watching baseball...
Quote from: Plodder on January 26, 2020, 03:19:24 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on January 26, 2020, 03:11:32 PM
But let's leave it, we're not going to agree on this so let's not clog up the board.
At least we can agree on not clogging up the board and hoping for a good result next week.
We are all on the same side. We all want what's best for Fulham at the end of the day. Just different opinions on what that looks like or how to get. Which leads to frustration/bickering.
If there are any positives to take from today, it was only four. City are ruthless and do not let up out of pity. Very few teams in our situation would do any better.
Not too disappointed because I had no expectations. Ream was an idiot but players make mistakes. On to the most important game, the next one.
Really highlights the gap between the top teams & that's without a few of their best players. Promotion is clearly our aim but today was a stark reminder of what awaits us if we're successful.
Can't understand this thread......most on this board were saying that we have no chance, we should play a weakened team and do our best.
Well, we played a weaker team that was even more weakened in the 6th minute with Ream's sending off.
We conceded 2 goals and went in at half time 2 down whereas a full strength Manure team were 3-0 down in 30mins recently.
We then kept trying to play out from the back and as a direct consequence conceded 2 more goals.
On the whole I saw some good playing through Citeh, limited I grant.
We weren't humiliated and I think everyone showed heart and determination against overwhelming odds.
Strangely I think had we stayed at 11 men and tried to score we may have conceded more, we were forced to defend....against possibly the best team in Europe.
We are not going to play anybody anywhere near the capability of Citeh for the rest of this season.
Now we push on for automatic promotion, time fior people to realise the glass is half full !!
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Quote from: Stevieboy on January 26, 2020, 03:41:30 PM
Can't understand this thread......most on this board were saying that we have no chance, we should play a weakened team and do our best.
Well, we played a weaker team that was even more weakened in the 6th minute with Ream's sending off.
We conceded 2 goals and went in at half time 2 down whereas a full strength Manure team were 3-0 down in 30mins recently.
We then kept trying to play out from the back and as a direct consequence conceded 2 more goals.
On the whole I saw some good playing through Citeh, limited I grant.
We weren't humiliated and I think everyone showed heart and determination against overwhelming odds.
Strangely I think had we stayed at 11 men and tried to score we may have conceded more, we were forced to defend....against possibly the best team in Europe.
We are not going to play anybody anywhere near the capability of Citeh for the rest of this season.
Now we push on for automatic promotion, time fior people to realise the glass is half full !!
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Well said - and I'm a Stevie, too !
We lost a football match, away, with 10 men, against one of the greatest teams in the Premier League.
It's hardly the end of the world. Some of the reactions on here are childish.
We were far from pathetic. Hampered by Ream's early red I think we did rather well at times. Individual errors in playing out from the back against a high press side cost us. Impressed with Kongolo.
