Surely?
Anyone here still want to defend him? A budget double almost every team in the league. Abysmal. No shape, no plan, no clue as ever. Minimal attacking threat with, on paper, probably the best selection of attacking players ever grouped together in the championship.
Good managers design systems to make players better than they are. Bad managers make them worse. What is happening at present?
Hodgson competed with (and beat) some of Europe's best with Etuhu, Pantsil, Konchesky etc. Open your eyes and demand better, people.
Absolutely has to be, we need a manager that can at least make us competitive in the playoffs should we make it in the top 6.
Agreed, enough excuses
We've the best squad in the division and have got two thirds of the way through the season without breaking into the top 2
This week he was thrown a lifeline - a chance to keep up with the top 2 and make the last third of the season interesting. And he has totally squandered it.
He can take his anonymous mate Wells and go back to coaching the Spurs u21s.
Put Stuart Gray in charge. He knows the players and can't possibly do any worse than Parker, so it's risk free. Let him have a crack at the play-offs and either way, get someone new in the Summer.
Agreed ! Performances have not been good enough even when the results have been ! Players need to take their responsibility too, but it is time to move on !
Parker's under achieved with the squad at his disposal, unfortunately tho this should of been expected as he's a new manager learning his trade, should have never been given the job in the first place
The only thing is, who do you bring in when you're 14 games from the seasons end who can give you a bounce and either make up the 3 point gap on Leeds or get us up via the play-offs? With the right manager it's absolutely still there for the taking as we have to play Leeds, but realistically who do we bring in? We could caretaker it with Gray until the end of the season but is he really going to unleash our attacking potential when he's always been fairly defence minded as a manager?
FYI I am in agreement with you though because with Parker we're now essentially looking at going 1-0 up and trying to see games out and it's not always going to work, and when we go 1-0 down we look absolutely amateur which with a team this good on paper just isn't good enough
Quote from: Statto on February 15, 2020, 04:50:31 PM
Agreed, enough excuses
We've the best squad in the division and have got two thirds of the way through the season without breaking into the top 2
This week he was thrown a lifeline - a chance to keep up with the top 2 and make the last third of the season interesting. And he has totally squandered it.
He can take his anonymous mate Wells and go back to coaching the Spurs u21s.
Put Stuart Gray in charge. He knows the players and can't possibly do any worse than Parker, so it's risk free. Let him have a crack at the play-offs and either way, get someone new in the Summer.
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Get rid, today showed exactly how clueless Parker is.
Does Poch pay his redundancy back if he joins a Champ club for a few months 🙄
God knows ... who we'd bring in but this is torture and has been all season
What has Rodak making three blunders got to do with Parker?
I've already said this before, we are going to do a West Bromwich of last season!!!! Inexperienced manger under achieving with a talented squad!The sooner people realize Parker's not up2 the job the better!
Here we go. Us playing utterly pathetic is now just goalkeeping errors. Blimey.
He is obviously not going to get sacked with us in 3rd place and 14 games remaining...
Wait until the end of the season, see if we go up, if not bring in someone else = only way unfortunately
Anyone but Parker
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 15, 2020, 04:57:05 PM
What has Rodak making three blunders got to do with Parker?
That with these players and a competent coach, a team like Barnsley wouldn't have got the ball near our goal 3 times today
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 15, 2020, 04:57:05 PM
What has Rodak making three blunders got to do with Parker?
Don't let three mistakes by a young keeper hide what was a cow of a performance! The performances have been atrocious all season !
Are you Parker in disguise 🤔
Its unbelievable but we are still in 3rd!
If results had gone differently in the last three games we would have tumbled to mid-table and SP would have been sacked.
Simple as.
We are not, and never have under SP, played to the strengths of the skilled players we have.
We hamstring their skills and the tactics are abysmal.
Quote from: Deeping_white on February 15, 2020, 04:53:31 PM
The only thing is, who do you bring in when you're 14 games from the seasons end who can give you a bounce and either make up the 3 point gap on Leeds or get us up via the play-offs? With the right manager it's absolutely still there for the taking as we have to play Leeds, but realistically who do we bring in? We could caretaker it with Gray until the end of the season but is he really going to unleash our attacking potential when he's always been fairly defence minded as a manager?
FYI I am in agreement with you though because with Parker we're now essentially looking at going 1-0 up and trying to see games out and it's not always going to work, and when we go 1-0 down we look absolutely amateur which with a team this good on paper just isn't good enough
Slav please.
Whatever we say about Parker and Im not defending him,that was a very poor performance by the quality players we have. Tc, Knockhaert, Cavaliero , Mitro had shockers. So they need to look in the mirror too. The players looked as though they have had a bust up in the squad,turning their backs on each other etc.
Quote from: colinwhite on February 15, 2020, 05:02:18 PM
Whatever we say about Parker and Im not defending him,that was a very poor performance by the quality players we have. Tc, Knockhaert, Cavaliero , Mitro had shockers. So they need to look in the mirror too. The players looked as though they have had a bust up in the squad,turning their backs on each other etc.
Agreed. I put far more emphasis on the players than on Parker, but unfortunately for Parker this is not an uncommon viewing. Yes, the scoreline against us rare, but the atrocious style of play and mismanagement of team selections is common. Only want Parker out if Pocheitto would come in, but I still think it's a risk given our current position in the table.
Quote from: colinwhite on February 15, 2020, 05:02:18 PM
Whatever we say about Parker and Im not defending him,that was a very poor performance by the quality players we have. Tc, Knockhaert, Cavaliero , Mitro had shockers. So they need to look in the mirror too. The players looked as though they have had a bust up in the squad,turning their backs on each other etc.
Yes a lack of motivation and discipline isn't the manager's responsibility so obviously we can't blame Parker for that
Quote from: Statto on February 15, 2020, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 15, 2020, 04:57:05 PM
What has Rodak making three blunders got to do with Parker?
That with these players and a competent coach, a team like Barnsley wouldn't have got the ball near our goal 3 times today
This.
And, actually, why is Rodak okay to single out but not Ream? Ream has been as costly on numerous occasions this year but I still see folk hailing him as 'having a good season'? Odd...
Quote from: Statto on February 15, 2020, 05:04:24 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on February 15, 2020, 05:02:18 PM
Whatever we say about Parker and Im not defending him,that was a very poor performance by the quality players we have. Tc, Knockhaert, Cavaliero , Mitro had shockers. So they need to look in the mirror too. The players looked as though they have had a bust up in the squad,turning their backs on each other etc.
Your doing it again Statto,dont put words into peoples mouths because that not what I said nor meant. But to emphasise that we we have such a strong squad and it is simply Parkers fault and nothing to do with players doesnt add up to me. Parker is to blame for this defeat but so are the players.
Yes a lack of motivation and discipline isn't the manager's responsibility so obviously we can't blame Parker for that
Quote from: colinwhite on February 15, 2020, 05:02:18 PM
Whatever we say about Parker and Im not defending him,that was a very poor performance by the quality players we have. Tc, Knockhaert, Cavaliero , Mitro had shockers. So they need to look in the mirror too. The players looked as though they have had a bust up in the squad,turning their backs on each other etc.
And who's job is it to motivate or discipline? To build cohesion? To build a team that will fight for each other/cover other? Who's job description do you think that features on?
Quote from: ByTheRiver on February 15, 2020, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on February 15, 2020, 05:02:18 PM
Whatever we say about Parker and Im not defending him,that was a very poor performance by the quality players we have. Tc, Knockhaert, Cavaliero , Mitro had shockers. So they need to look in the mirror too. The players looked as though they have had a bust up in the squad,turning their backs on each other etc.
And who's job is it to motivate or discipline? To build cohesion? To build a team that will fight for each other/cover other? Who's job description do you think that features on?
Parker has not improved one player, just achieved in making very talented ones look ordinary!
Whilst we are at it Mitro had a shocker today,and didnt put the work in. Looking at his body language before the game he looked like he didnt fancy it at all.
Parker has failed to get the team playing today. That isnt in dispute .
Quote from: colinwhite on February 15, 2020, 05:11:29 PM
Whilst we are at it Mitro had a shocker today,and didnt put the work in. Looking at his body language before the game he looked like he didnt fancy it at all.
Hardly surprising. He knows team is massively underperforming and that probably made the wrong choice. He will be playing in the premier league next season, Barnsley will be in League One. Those two things are as good as certain.
He still looks injured to me.(Mitro ) but if you are going to be critical of the team then Mitro has to take his share as do they all.
I wonder if Parker's insistence on playing Onomah has caused a rift in the the dressing room.
Stefjo seems to be out in the cold. Mitro, Cairney et al not up to snuff.
What was it that KMAc and Cairny go off. We keep on Onomah and bring on Arter?
Jees.
I just cannot believe the decisions he makes.
Quote from: ByTheRiver on February 15, 2020, 05:06:04 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 15, 2020, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 15, 2020, 04:57:05 PM
What has Rodak making three blunders got to do with Parker?
That with these players and a competent coach, a team like Barnsley wouldn't have got the ball near our goal 3 times today
This.
And, actually, why is Rodak okay to single out but not Ream? Ream has been as costly on numerous occasions this year but I still see folk hailing him as 'having a good season'? Odd...
Maybe because he was to blame for the goals today..doh
Quote from: colinwhite on February 15, 2020, 05:17:46 PM
He still looks injured to me.(Mitro ) but if you are going to be critical of the team then Mitro has to take his share as do they all.
Didn't look interested, won nothing all day nearly.
Bring back Joka!
The part that I'm frustrated with is Parker's lack of support for Mitro and not addressing obvious glaring issues in our attack. The wings are covered through a double team, and this forces our winger to hold onto the ball unless we one-touch pass quickly or a speedy central player can get there in time. If we're going to play with such an emphasis in width, and isolate Mitro anyway, we need to play with two up front at all times. Our presence in a 3-5-2 is much stronger with Hector than before, and at this point we need to score more goals than just focus defensively. The more we fail at the attack, the more it invites pressure. We have a pack of on-paper goal scoreres, and ony one of them is living up to his potential.
Three crucial mistakes from Rodak, and several chances for us to score. Unfortunately, we lacked finishing, and they didn't. It's that simple. In the first half we couldn't handle their double-team on our wingers. In the second, with the wind, we started building momentum - only to concede a stupid goal where Rodak has zero business covering an angle with no threat. Ruined our momentum. We respond with throwing on Arter, Reid and Kamara. A 3-5-2 created so many chances as a result. Reid could've scored 3, Mitro 2, Onomah 3 and who knows what else.
If Parker is sacked tomorrow, I would be surprised, but at the same time I can understand. These are high stakes, and his delayed response to the opponent's tactics are a slow burn that have potential to cost us a playoff spot, let alone automatic promotion.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 15, 2020, 05:18:10 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on February 15, 2020, 05:06:04 PM
Quote from: Statto on February 15, 2020, 04:59:31 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 15, 2020, 04:57:05 PM
What has Rodak making three blunders got to do with Parker?
That with these players and a competent coach, a team like Barnsley wouldn't have got the ball near our goal 3 times today
This.
And, actually, why is Rodak okay to single out but not Ream? Ream has been as costly on numerous occasions this year but I still see folk hailing him as 'having a good season'? Odd...
Maybe because he was to blame for the goals today..doh
As Ream has been on four or five occasions this season and yet people get their heads bitten off pointing it oh. Now that really is 'doh'.
We win as a team and lose as a team.
As a team we were dreadful and deserved to lose 0-3 to the bottom of table team.
Quote from: Worcesterwhite on February 15, 2020, 05:11:14 PM
Quote from: ByTheRiver on February 15, 2020, 05:09:42 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on February 15, 2020, 05:02:18 PM
Whatever we say about Parker and Im not defending him,that was a very poor performance by the quality players we have. Tc, Knockhaert, Cavaliero , Mitro had shockers. So they need to look in the mirror too. The players looked as though they have had a bust up in the squad,turning their backs on each other etc.
And who's job is it to motivate or discipline? To build cohesion? To build a team that will fight for each other/cover other? Who's job description do you think that features on?
Parker has not improved one player, just achieved in making very talented ones look ordinary!
Exactly. 100%.
Sorry, but not impressed with the so called "talent" that everyone keeps talking about. It may look like an auto promotion team on paper but reality is another thing.
Quote from: love4ffc on February 15, 2020, 05:28:10 PM
Sorry, but not impressed with the so called "talent" that everyone keeps talking about. It may look like an auto promotion team on paper but reality is another thing.
It does after Parker's had 6 months with them!
This is still the same forum is it, that when recently I said , we are third in the table in spite of Parker not because of Parker, people were queuing up to have pop ?
Some of you really haven't been able to see the wood for the trees this season, by and large the "Performances" this season have been terrible, nowhere near good enough,
Parker and Cairney can both **ck off, but not until the summer, as this season is already over, then in the summer I would love to see us try and persuade David Wagner to come back to England, did a fantastic job at Huddersfield to get them promoted but then thrown under the bus by the club when they got there, but replacements are really a discussion for another day,
Parker was never a fans favourite as a player, concerns were raised when he came back as an assistant manager, and plenty of us questioned the decision to make him manager,
Personally, I can't wait to see the back of him at our club.
Quote from: love4ffc on February 15, 2020, 05:28:10 PM
Sorry, but not impressed with the so called "talent" that everyone keeps talking about. It may look like an auto promotion team on paper but reality is another thing.
Ah yeah, sorry, you're right. The international players that have all performed brilliantly in the past are actually rubbish and Parker is, in fact, doing a really good job. I see now.
Cool, let's carry on as we are.
All the way to relegation next year when half the squad move on and budget is massively cut.
I hope so as Im not going back to the cottage whilst he is still employed by my club. Don't care if he takes us up and wins the prem next season, I can not put myself through anymore of his crap football. Kids don't want to go, I don't want to go, hell I bet Parker himself doesn't even want to go and watch the crap he serves up. I had more fun watching us back in the old fourth division than I do now. He should have been sacked months ago
Sitting in third. Win against Derby and we go level with Leeds. A manager can drill and work the team all he wants but when thrown injury after injury and having players are can't play consistently, well then you end up where Fulham are.
Quote from: Riversider on February 15, 2020, 05:30:38 PM
This is still the same forum is it, that when recently I said , we are third in the table in spite of Parker not because of Parker, people were queuing up to have pop ?
Some of you really haven't been able to see the wood for the trees this season, by and large the "Performances" this season have been terrible, nowhere near good enough,
Parker and Cairney can both **ck off, but not until the summer, as this season is already over, then in the summer I would love to see us try and persuade David Wagner to come back to England, did a fantastic job at Huddersfield to get them promoted but then thrown under the bus by the club when they got there, but replacements are really a discussion for another day,
Parker was never a fans favourite as a player, concerns were raised when he came back as an assistant manager, and plenty of us questioned the decision to make him manager,
Personally, I can't wait to see the back of him at our club.
+1 well said
I understand people are mad. Heck, I'm made at loosing to a bottom place team. But I think lots of people are doing the knee jerk reaction.
The conditions were against us today and Scottie didn't have a clue how to manage them. Players were very poor as well.
Quote from: love4ffc on February 15, 2020, 05:37:02 PM
I understand people are mad. Heck, I'm made at loosing to a bottom place team. But I think lots of people are doing the knee jerk reaction.
well ive be been saying it for months, so no knee jerk from me. I'm just amazed that it's taken people so long to see how crap we are under Parker. Even the games we win we look crap. Can't tell you one game we played well in this season
Quote from: love4ffc on February 15, 2020, 05:37:02 PM
I understand people are mad. Heck, I'm made at loosing to a bottom place team. But I think lots of people are doing the knee jerk reaction.
That's fairly common, especially right after the match. No matter what fan base, there are always knee-jerk reactions, and always those who summarize player/managers based on small sample size. I'm still not convinced Parker needs to go, mainly because I see the issues from both Barnsley and Millwall as tactical adjustments needed versus an entire upheaval. You know me, Don; I refuse to take part in a toxic relationship that is predicated on being so hot and cold from match-to-match.
Quote from: fulhamben on February 15, 2020, 05:34:48 PM
I hope so as Im not going back to the cottage whilst he is still employed by my club. Don't care if he takes us up and wins the prem next season, I can not put myself through anymore of his crap football. Kids don't want to go, I don't want to go, hell I bet Parker himself doesn't even want to go and watch the crap he serves up. I had more fun watching us back in the old fourth division than I do now. He should have been sacked months ago
I haven't been back since reading on NYD. I'll probably get lambasted as not a true fan etc etc but I've become so disillusioned with the performances and actual lack of enjoyment watching the team play. We've not shown any real improvement since he's been manager. It's sad really. Not been a fan of Parker's for a long while and I don't see that changing.
Not a knee jerk reaction but I want a change as I want to get 'my' Fulham back and my enjoyment for watching Fulham again.
Quote from: Riversider on February 15, 2020, 05:30:38 PM
This is still the same forum is it, that when recently I said , we are third in the table in spite of Parker not because of Parker, people were queuing up to have pop ?
Some of you really haven't been able to see the wood for the trees this season, by and large the "Performances" this season have been terrible, nowhere near good enough,
Parker and Cairney can both **ck off, but not until the summer, as this season is already over, then in the summer I would love to see us try and persuade David Wagner to come back to England, did a fantastic job at Huddersfield to get them promoted but then thrown under the bus by the club when they got there, but replacements are really a discussion for another day,
Parker was never a fans favourite as a player, concerns were raised when he came back as an assistant manager, and plenty of us questioned the decision to make him manager,
Personally, I can't wait to see the back of him at our club.
Agree with what you you've said, and wouldn't disagree with Wagner, to be fair to him he over achieved when at Huddersfield
Quote from: Matt10 on February 15, 2020, 05:42:14 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on February 15, 2020, 05:37:02 PM
I understand people are mad. Heck, I'm made at loosing to a bottom place team. But I think lots of people are doing the knee jerk reaction.
That's fairly common, especially right after the match. No matter what fan base, there are always knee-jerk reactions, and always those who summarize player/managers based on small sample size. I'm still not convinced Parker needs to go, mainly because I see the issues from both Barnsley and Millwall as tactical adjustments needed versus an entire upheaval. You know me, Don; I refuse to take part in a toxic relationship that is predicated on being so hot and cold from match-to-match.
You are much wiser then I Mr. Matt :dft011:
I for the most part have not knocked him this season, I have questioned team selections,ie his persistence in playing Onomah on occasions, I have questioned tactics on occasions, I have questioned style of play. I have now reached the same stage as Ben where I doubt I will go to the cottage or away again whilst he is still in charge.
Fulham are my team and always have my support but I also want to see some reasonable football, I will no longer pay hard earned money to watch the same failed system of play with poor decisions in selection.
I dread us going up under this manager as we will be record breakers getting relegated again, I sincerely think he has lost the dressing room, that could be the reasons for Mitrovic s lack lustre displays as he gets battered every week by two big centre half's because the system does not support him. Odoi played well v Millwall then he is dropped for sess who has been out of favour for weeks. Stefjo has done nothing wrong but no longer gets a look in.
I think the players have no faith in the style of play and it shows with the lack of form from most of them.
I really don't know where we go from here, I think he has to go and we need to forget promotion this year and sort out a system of playing to our strengths.
On a side note, due respect Cauley for not rubbing our faces in it when you scored.
Quote from: Bill2 on February 15, 2020, 05:37:21 PM
The conditions were against us today and Scottie didn't have a clue how to manage them. Players were very poor as well.
Did the wind blow into our faces for both halfs ? If so that's incredible 😩
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on February 15, 2020, 05:36:43 PM
Quote from: Riversider on February 15, 2020, 05:30:38 PM
This is still the same forum is it, that when recently I said , we are third in the table in spite of Parker not because of Parker, people were queuing up to have pop ?
Some of you really haven't been able to see the wood for the trees this season, by and large the "Performances" this season have been terrible, nowhere near good enough,
Parker and Cairney can both **ck off, but not until the summer, as this season is already over, then in the summer I would love to see us try and persuade David Wagner to come back to England, did a fantastic job at Huddersfield to get them promoted but then thrown under the bus by the club when they got there, but replacements are really a discussion for another day,
Parker was never a fans favourite as a player, concerns were raised when he came back as an assistant manager, and plenty of us questioned the decision to make him manager,
Personally, I can't wait to see the back of him at our club.
+1 well said
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Quote from: mattFFC on February 15, 2020, 04:58:37 PM
He is obviously not going to get sacked with us in 3rd place and 14 games remaining...
Wait until the end of the season, see if we go up, if not bring in someone else = only way unfortunately
Shoosh. Let them rant.
Parker was outcoached this week and last imo, but the players were more to blame in both games. At some point they need to play as a unit and it's not happening.
Stupid to fire him simply to make a point. And stupid to write off promotion this far up the table. Asinine really.
Based on today's game I'd say, "hey, we should hire Barnley's coach because his team looked like they knew how to play football", yet overlook the fact that they are low in the table.
I'm not knee jerk though. See where we are at the end of the season.
Quote from: love4ffc on February 15, 2020, 05:37:02 PM
I understand people are mad. Heck, I'm made at loosing to a bottom place team. But I think lots of people are doing the knee jerk reaction.
It's not after one match though; we've been waiting for a good controlling performance all season and have not managed it once ! The results have been better than the performances e.g. Blackburn away ! When you have neither and the bottom club do the double over you .... it's not good ! Parker Out !
So Bythe river your suggestion is what exactly? sack parker now or what do you mean ? explain please.
How many good performances have we had this season? Even when we beat Derby 3-0, we were chatting in the car on the way home and felt it was all a little underwhelming. Despite our wins and third place i don't think anyone can say we are exciting in any area on the pitch and that our football is slow and predictable (I've been saying that since the beginning of the season)
What we have to decide is whether it is poor players or a poor system they are playing or a combination of both. If I were to make a judgement I would say the system is wrong and our complete Midfield are playing below par putting pressure on a defence that is totally devoid of confidence. The defence get the blame most of the time but just look at the movement and negativity of the midfield playing I believe, Parkers system.
Something needs to change, I thought someone would have spoken to Parker and given him some advice but nothing seems to have change in months.
Quote from: bobby01 on February 15, 2020, 05:50:54 PM
I for the most part have not knocked him this season, I have questioned team selections,ie his persistence in playing Onomah on occasions, I have questioned tactics on occasions, I have questioned style of play. I have now reached the same stage as Ben where I doubt I will go to the cottage or away again whilst he is still in charge.
Fulham are my team and always have my support but I also want to see some reasonable football, I will no longer pay hard earned money to watch the same failed system of play with poor decisions in selection.
I dread us going up under this manager as we will be record breakers getting relegated again, I sincerely think he has lost the dressing room, that could be the reasons for Mitrovic s lack lustre displays as he gets battered every week by two big centre half's because the system does not support him. Odoi played well v Millwall then he is dropped for sess who has been out of favour for weeks. Stefjo has done nothing wrong but no longer gets a look in.
I think the players have no faith in the style of play and it shows with the lack of form from most of them.
I really don't know where we go from here, I think he has to go and we need to forget promotion this year and sort out a system of playing to our strengths.
On a side note, due respect Cauley for not rubbing our faces in it when you scored.
:plus one:
Quote from: Southdowns White on February 15, 2020, 06:30:08 PM
How many good performances have we had this season? Even when we beat Derby 3-0, we were chatting in the car on the way home and felt it was all a little underwhelming. Despite our wins and third place i don't think anyone can say we are exciting in any area on the pitch and that our football is slow and predictable (I've been saying that since the beginning of the season)
What we have to decide is whether it is poor players or a poor system they are playing or a combination of both. If I were to make a judgement I would say the system is wrong and our complete Midfield are playing below par putting pressure on a defence that is totally devoid of confidence. The defence get the blame most of the time but just look at the movement and negativity of the midfield playing I believe, Parkers system.
Something needs to change, I thought someone would have spoken to Parker and given him some advice but nothing seems to have change in months.
:plus one:
I for one will celebrate the day Parker leaves our club. Even when we win its dull as ditchwater, we rarely play open, exciting football and he almost never utilises the abilities of the players at his disposal to their fullest, its like watching us under Bracewell or Wilkins and tactically he gets it wrong too often. Can't wait for a change. Parker out now for me.
Quote from: colinwhite on February 15, 2020, 06:04:23 PM
So Bythe river your suggestion is what exactly? sack parker now or what do you mean ? explain please.
Parker was never really my choice. I have tried to support him, give the benefit of doubt, go with all the excuses offered here, but it's very clear we are not performing. Forget the league table (we could and should be doing far better than we are) - do you see a team playing as a unit? Comfortable in transitions? Do you see a number of players in form? Do you see the more average players appearing adequate/good due to the system?
No? Okay. Who's job is the above?
I get the argument of not changing now whilst we are still in with a shout of promotion. But the counter argument is exactly that too. Just today and Wednesday (games we absolutely should have won, no arguments/excuses) would have had us comfortably 2nd and in contention. Are we? No.
Would you feel confident in a play off against Forest and or Brentford playing as we have, essentially, all season? I'm not sure I would...
I do wonder if the Parker supporters actually watch us play with any regularity. We play awful football which is as turgid as it gets - and the players are playing faithfully to his system.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 15, 2020, 04:57:05 PM
What has Rodak making three blunders got to do with Parker?
He also made a couple of very good saves, and has been the primary factor in us securing several wins and draws this season.
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on February 15, 2020, 04:57:05 PM
What has Rodak making three blunders got to do with Parker?
Failing to score at home against the bottom of the table team has to be addressed by the manager especially when there have been signs of such a result coming in other recent matches.
It's touch and go whether we will get promoted now after throwing away 5 points in two games. If the Khans target was promotion , it seems that at this late stage Parker has lost the dressing room if he ever had it. It seems to me that the bravest thing to do if you are director of football would be to relieve Mr Parker of his responsibilities with immediate effect. Keegan did it to his best mate Wilkins and although it didn't work that time we were closer to the play-offs. If you give the new man until the end of the season you then have a second chance should it not be successful. Yes I feel sorry for Parker but I feel more sorry for our supporters
The think today was there left nack was right football to deal with Kock cutting inside, I might be mistaken but at no point did Parker look to swap the wingers
Quote from: Nero on February 15, 2020, 07:48:01 PM
The think today was there left nack was right football to deal with Kock cutting inside, I might be mistaken but at no point did Parker look to swap the wingers
This is a constant failure, but parker continues to persist with it.
The writing on the wall has not suddenly appeared following today's heavy defeat against the bottom side in the league. It has been writ large since the very first game this season.
It just goes to show how a head coach and his mates can be suckered into believing they really are better than the performances over the past six and a half months would suggest to any true professional football eye. Parker says, somewhat ironically today, that he 'didn't see [Barnsley] coming'. Those should be his famous last words as he is shown the door, but, of course it will not happen because he still has thirteen (unlucky for some) matches left to redeem himself and football results can be strange beasts.
He needs to stop kidding himself that he knows what he is doing and start working truly hard to actually select his best eleven, in a formation that works, with player partnerships that work, with tactics that players understand, with a bit more nous about player selections and a hell of a lot less obsession over his pet projects.
Performances show Parker is not (yet or even ever) a good coach and it is going to take a huge shift in his personality to actually begin to see the wood for the trees so far as running a Championship team is concerned, IMO. I have had doubts about him since he came back from Spurs and, unfortunately for him, I do not believe he has learnt anything, because, like the Khans, he is repeating mistakes over and over again. But can the Khans get someone in who can do as good a job as Jokanovic? I don't think so.
Quote from: bobby01 on February 15, 2020, 05:50:54 PM
I for the most part have not knocked him this season, I have questioned team selections,ie his persistence in playing Onomah on occasions, I have questioned tactics on occasions, I have questioned style of play. I have now reached the same stage as Ben where I doubt I will go to the cottage or away again whilst he is still in charge.
Fulham are my team and always have my support but I also want to see some reasonable football, I will no longer pay hard earned money to watch the same failed system of play with poor decisions in selection.
I dread us going up under this manager as we will be record breakers getting relegated again, I sincerely think he has lost the dressing room, that could be the reasons for Mitrovic s lack lustre displays as he gets battered every week by two big centre half's because the system does not support him. Odoi played well v Millwall then he is dropped for sess who has been out of favour for weeks. Stefjo has done nothing wrong but no longer gets a look in.
I think the players have no faith in the style of play and it shows with the lack of form from most of them.
I really don't know where we go from here, I think he has to go and we need to forget promotion this year and sort out a system of playing to our strengths.
On a side note, due respect Cauley for not rubbing our faces in it when you scored.
Plus 1 from me
Quote from: Matt10 on February 15, 2020, 05:42:14 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on February 15, 2020, 05:37:02 PM
I understand people are mad. Heck, I'm made at loosing to a bottom place team. But I think lots of people are doing the knee jerk reaction.
That's fairly common, especially right after the match. No matter what fan base, there are always knee-jerk reactions, and always those who summarize player/managers based on small sample size. I'm still not convinced Parker needs to go, mainly because I see the issues from both Barnsley and Millwall as tactical adjustments needed versus an entire upheaval. You know me, Don; I refuse to take part in a toxic relationship that is predicated on being so hot and cold from match-to-match.
I agree!
I only hope none of these stupid people work important jobs Monday to friday.
Imagine doctors making "hot and cold" or "knee jerk" judgements about whether someone should have an operation
Quote from: Statto on February 15, 2020, 10:40:21 PM
Quote from: Matt10 on February 15, 2020, 05:42:14 PM
Quote from: love4ffc on February 15, 2020, 05:37:02 PM
I understand people are mad. Heck, I'm made at loosing to a bottom place team. But I think lots of people are doing the knee jerk reaction.
That's fairly common, especially right after the match. No matter what fan base, there are always knee-jerk reactions, and always those who summarize player/managers based on small sample size. I'm still not convinced Parker needs to go, mainly because I see the issues from both Barnsley and Millwall as tactical adjustments needed versus an entire upheaval. You know me, Don; I refuse to take part in a toxic relationship that is predicated on being so hot and cold from match-to-match.
I agree!
I only hope none of these stupid people work important jobs Monday to friday.
Imagine doctors making "hot and cold" or "knee jerk" judgements about whether someone should have an operation
No. Doctors look at six months of patient history as well as current outlook and determine whether they should have surgery.
Only if they suffer from Haemorrhoids or Acute Flatulence.
39 points for Scott Parker and his players to prove their critics wrong.
parker took a nose dive for me today
team selection...wrong
tactics (such as they were)...wrong
substitutions... insane
i have felt he was showing inexperience, that is not what it was today, today was his own fault and he should have seen that we were very poor in the last few games and tried to improve it. he has demotivated our best player by playing out of position and asking him to do things that are not his forte.
I am dubious now about parker as our man for next season, he seems to be like the khan's unale to learn from previous mistakes
if we had WBA's manager we would be 15 points clear by now, he has a less good squad than us and one or two other teams but they are performing. today was shocking.
I just cannot understand the insistence of playing inverted winders as they are so predictable. They cut inside, try to beat a couple of defenders and if successful then whack the ball several yards over the crossbar.
Quote from: David Allen Crankshaw on February 16, 2020, 12:05:49 PM
I just cannot understand the insistence of playing inverted winders as they are so predictable. They cut inside, try to beat a couple of defenders and if successful then whack the ball several yards over the crossbar.
So right, we can see it, but SP does not seem to.
