Just seen the following article. "Fulham are another side used to flitting between the top tiers and must improve on their horrendous showing two years ago. Scott Parker has struggled to win over the Craven Cottage faithful and his side only just edged out Cardiff and a fatigued Brentford in the play-offs".
Unbelievable
Where was that from? The Brentford sour grapes gazette????
Don't worry brentford won the expected goals (xGs) and best performances championship.
They had one more day to rest so we were even more exhausted and we gave them a class in tactics
Ahhh their tired. Get a life Brentford.
I read that. Fatigue is the same for both sides. Shut up!! :031:
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that would have played a part in it. even tony khan mentioned how much of a help our big squad would be once football resumed. brentfords squad was tiny and they didnt have the luxury of resting players like mitro cav knockeart etc in the run in and play offs
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
that would have played a part in it. even tony khan mentioned how much of a help our big squad would be once football resumed. brentfords squad was tiny and they didnt have the luxury of resting players like mitro cav knockeart etc in the run in and play offs
Interestingly they used 29 different players this season, we used 28. Their squad can't be that tiny?
Quote from: Jim© on August 07, 2020, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
that would have played a part in it. even tony khan mentioned how much of a help our big squad would be once football resumed. brentfords squad was tiny and they didnt have the luxury of resting players like mitro cav knockeart etc in the run in and play offs
tiny as in lacking quality. We all register the same amount and have youth to fall back on
Interestingly they used 29 different players this season, we used 28. Their squad can't be that tiny?
The reason we won is simple, we scored 2, they scored 1.
All they need to do is look at the papers.
We was so fatigued we sent an injured player on in the 90th minute
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
that would have played a part in it. even tony khan mentioned how much of a help our big squad would be once football resumed. brentfords squad was tiny and they didnt have the luxury of resting players like mitro cav knockeart etc in the run in and play offs
Interestingly they used 29 different players this season, we used 28. Their squad can't be that tiny?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2020, 01:23:23 PM
Quote from: Jim© on August 07, 2020, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
that would have played a part in it. even tony khan mentioned how much of a help our big squad would be once football resumed. brentfords squad was tiny and they didnt have the luxury of resting players like mitro cav knockeart etc in the run in and play offs
tiny as in lacking quality. We all register the same amount and have youth to fall back on
Interestingly they used 29 different players this season, we used 28. Their squad can't be that tiny?
But we had to use 16 year old Stansfield in one game. Granted our bench was looking good towards end of season but no CF and lack of good cover if Ream/Hec got injured.
Quote from: Jim© on August 07, 2020, 02:12:30 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
that would have played a part in it. even tony khan mentioned how much of a help our big squad would be once football resumed. brentfords squad was tiny and they didnt have the luxury of resting players like mitro cav knockeart etc in the run in and play offs
Interestingly they used 29 different players this season, we used 28. Their squad can't be that tiny?
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2020, 01:23:23 PM
Quote from: Jim© on August 07, 2020, 01:20:56 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2020, 01:17:26 PM
that would have played a part in it. even tony khan mentioned how much of a help our big squad would be once football resumed. brentfords squad was tiny and they didnt have the luxury of resting players like mitro cav knockeart etc in the run in and play offs
tiny as in lacking quality. We all register the same amount and have youth to fall back on
Interestingly they used 29 different players this season, we used 28. Their squad can't be that tiny?
But we had to use 16 year old Stansfield in one game. Granted our bench was looking good towards end of season but no CF and lack of good cover if Ream/Hec got injured.
thats the point I'm making. We were able to rotate and still get positive results which would have made us less fatigued for the final. Wasn't fatigue one of the main reasons we lost to reading in the play offs. Due to a small squad ( by quality) having to play so many games without a rest. Fatigue would have played a big part in Brentford's loss, and so what, they didn't have the squad we did, and couldn't match our performance on the day. I bet you any money brentford fans knew the 11 they wanted picked for the final, and I bet they all started. No one on here really knew our best 11 as we did chop and change a lot due to having more competition for places.
At times I wonder if people on this board just go about their days looking for reasons to be offended.
Quote from: Tabby on August 07, 2020, 02:37:48 PM
At times I wonder if people on this board just go about their days looking for reasons to be offended.
yep, how can you get offended by a team being fatigued for a match. I've just checked Brentford's last 5 games and they used the same starting 11 four out of fives times. And in the fifth game they made one change to the starting line up. They would have been shattered as all 3 play off games had the same starting 11 for them.
Wait a minute, there was a very short recovery time between the semi final and the final but Brentford had a day more than us. I thought that could well have been a deciding factor.
Parker won both the pre match war of words, the tactical battle and the players won the match.
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2020, 02:45:04 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 07, 2020, 02:37:48 PM
At times I wonder if people on this board just go about their days looking for reasons to be offended.
yep, how can you get offended by a team being fatigued for a match. I've just checked Brentford's last 5 games and they used the same starting 11 four out of fives times. And in the fifth game they made one change to the starting line up. They would have been shattered as all 3 play off games had the same starting 11 for them.
So are you saying we beat them as they were more tired than we were? I'm trying to see who's been offended?
Quote from: Jim© on August 07, 2020, 03:39:13 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2020, 02:45:04 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 07, 2020, 02:37:48 PM
At times I wonder if people on this board just go about their days looking for reasons to be offended.
yep, how can you get offended by a team being fatigued for a match. I've just checked Brentford's last 5 games and they used the same starting 11 four out of fives times. And in the fifth game they made one change to the starting line up. They would have been shattered as all 3 play off games had the same starting 11 for them.
So are you saying we beat them as they were more tired than we were? I'm trying to see who's been offended?
im saying it would be stupid to dismiss fatigue as part of the reason they lost. I'm not offended by anything on this subject. Hell I bet if you go back further than the five games checked, Brentford probably used the same 11 in the majority of games since lockdown was lifted. We had a bigger squad (in quality) and it helped us to get promoted,
THEY are tired?
I am TIRED & EMOTIONAL (but very happy!!)
They lost the mind games
Lost their edge & record over us
Talked themselves up too much
Their magic forward line failed to deliver (Caveat Emptor any prospective purchasers)
They have lost a record 9 out of 9 play off finals?
I can cut them some slack & wave good bye (thankfully) to them
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2020, 02:45:04 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 07, 2020, 02:37:48 PM
At times I wonder if people on this board just go about their days looking for reasons to be offended.
yep, how can you get offended by a team being fatigued for a match. I've just checked Brentford's last 5 games and they used the same starting 11 four out of fives times. And in the fifth game they made one change to the starting line up. They would have been shattered as all 3 play off games had the same starting 11 for them.
They played the same number of games as us in the same number of days since lockdown. If their so called brilliant manager did not have the brains to make changes and freshen up his squad during this period then they only have themselves to blame. If he had made changes they may not have thrown away automatic promotion
No sympathy what so ever . :yay:
I saw that in 'I' newspaper too & laughed about a fatigued Brentford. I think they came out of the restart blocks fast aiming for the automatic promotion spots.
Quote from: SP on August 07, 2020, 04:34:40 PM
I saw that in 'I' newspaper too & laughed about a fatigued Brentford. I think they came out of the restart blocks fast aiming for the automatic promotion spots.
To much jumping around after the swansea game acting like they had won promotion, uses a lot of energy over a few days wit the excitement, there squad size isnt our issue
Quote from: sarnian on August 07, 2020, 04:32:22 PM
Quote from: fulhamben on August 07, 2020, 02:45:04 PM
Quote from: Tabby on August 07, 2020, 02:37:48 PM
At times I wonder if people on this board just go about their days looking for reasons to be offended.
yep, how can you get offended by a team being fatigued for a match. I've just checked Brentford's last 5 games and they used the same starting 11 four out of fives times. And in the fifth game they made one change to the starting line up. They would have been shattered as all 3 play off games had the same starting 11 for them.
They played the same number of games as us in the same number of days since lockdown. If their so called brilliant manager did not have the brains to make changes and freshen up his squad during this period then they only have themselves to blame. If he had made changes they may not have thrown away automatic promotion
No sympathy what so ever . :yay:
I think that's the point isn't. Even if they were fatigued because the same starting 11 had been used for every match since lockdown, it was their choice. They could have rotated, they have a decent squad.
Plus as others have noted they had 24 hrs more rest than us before the final.
Fatigue is not a satisfactory excuse. We beat them because our squad was better managed, our manager out thought his opposite number and our players were better on the day. End of.
They keepr wasnt fatigued he was throwing himself all about the place after Joes free kick had hit the back of the net
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2020, 05:24:18 PM
They keepr wasnt fatigued he was throwing himself all about the place after Joes free kick had hit the back of the net
speaking of which it did make me laugh when rodak went down with cramp in injury time. Don't think I've ever seen a goalie try that one
Lol, what a load of rubbish. Much like their keeper's performance.
More fatigued. They had an attitude that they only had to turn up and they'd be getting promoted. Fulham gave them a masterclass in tactics and their manager couldn't respond.
They are in the past. Onwards for us. Fulham Up, bees down.
Quote from: gang on August 07, 2020, 01:40:36 PM
The reason we won is simple, we scored 2, they scored 1.
All they need to do is look at the papers.
100% CORRECT.
I suspect that in years to come it will have become a historical fact that had the team not been so knackered due to the Coronavirus lay off, they would have whipped our backsides. It will be the same flawed logic that our fans use in not signing Andy Thomas in 1982/3.
The point is it didn't happen so no-one will ever know.
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2020, 05:24:18 PM
They keepr wasnt fatigued he was throwing himself all about the place after Joes free kick had hit the back of the net
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That dive to catch the ball as it rebounded from inside the net made me laugh.
When teams play a 'high tempo' passing game, relentless attacking, it is tiring, but by definition that is exactly what leads to their success. So being 'tired' is not a argument a successful team can use. To get to the Play - Offs is a success and they would have learnt much from the match.
This article was written by a journalist and not someone from Brentford. I haven't seen any comments from them using this as an excuse and I thought the comments made by their manager after the game about us were quite generous.
Quote from: No one like Leggat on August 08, 2020, 08:54:01 AM
This article was written by a journalist and not someone from Brentford. I haven't seen any comments from them using this as an excuse and I thought the comments made by their manager after the game about us were quite generous.
You see. it is this sort of common sense contribution that gives us all a bad name. Spout bile and disgust if you ever want to be taken seriously, please!
It's all on the day, apart from Scott outsmarting their manager hands down, Fulham players wanted it more than they did.
Brentford also had an extra day to recover.
But we did what we had to do which means playing to your strengths, and we bullied them into submission which is payback for them taunting us and rattling out cage.
If you put your head in a Lions mouth you can be sure the Lion will bite it off, which Fulham did, chewed them up and spat them out.
Quote from: Nero on August 07, 2020, 05:24:18 PM
They keepr wasnt fatigued he was throwing himself all about the place after Joes free kick had hit the back of the net
Dare I suggest that if the keeper was fatigued he may well have been more inclined to stay on his line.
1 don't care what anyone thinks or says, I am just as happy as I was at the final whistle. No matter what the result is on September 12th the smile will remain. Good luck to Brentford as well in the championship
Listened to Thomas Frank even though he was obviously disappointed
he was more gracious in defeat than a lot of people on here have been in victory.
The way we play ie passing game tires other teams out trying to press us.
