I'm amazed that he didn't - couldn't ask for a better opportunity to exorcise the demons from the Wet Spam game and redeem himself!
This is someone who is paid £60k a week to play football, he should be demanding the chance to prove that he's worth it.
It's a shame, because other than the very good assist for RLC's goal, he wasn't involved nearly enough, I hope his confidence hasn't gone
I thought that, especially in the first half, he looked short of confidence. I may be wrong but don't think he took anyone on in the first 45 minutes, very different from his previous games for us. His part in our 2and goal was much more his normal self. I wasn't at all surprised that he didn't take the penalty.
Parker said that they had worked on Pens during the International break and Cav was nominated as the Pen taker. Wonder if that was the reason he stayed on despite having a relatively ineffective game?
Its been said that they worked on penalties during the week and Cav was the choice
Personally I would never give it to a flaky and unreliable player who you then expect to be a cool and calculated player when the pressures on!
This proves that banging the pens in in training has no relevance to do it in a game.
Quote from: WokingFFC on November 23, 2020, 11:38:53 AM
Parker said that they had worked on Pens during the International break and Cav was nominated as the Pen taker. Wonder if that was the reason he stayed on despite having a relatively ineffective game?
Of course, why else would Cav. had been in the team, certainly not because of recent performances.
Lookman, Mitro, Cav., Kamara, Cairney, all attacking players who have failed at penalties for us, time to try defenders I think.
Give Frank or RLC a go if they hit a ball it stays hit⚽
Quote from: KJS on November 23, 2020, 12:58:58 PM
Give Frank or RLC a go if they hit a ball it stays hit⚽
Would sooner RLC than frank... frank has scored like 3 goals in his club career hasn't he?
Lookman was NEVER going to take a penalty yesterday. If he had and it was saved against his old team he would have been crucified on here.
Bring back Jim Langley. Never missed. (if he is still alive.)
Maybe we should sign Matt Le Tissier. Sit him on the bench until we get a penalty and resubstitute him after he has scored.
Lookman or mitro should have taken it unless TC fancied a go. Cav is a third rate player and I would have taken any bet from anyone saying he would score. Parker loves him but he is 100% way below the required standard. I din't like him from the begining, he scored a couple of nice goals cutting in but once the championshoip rumbbled him he dried up..this is a higher stanard and he looks way out of his depth.
Was really hoping Mitro would take charge but even during the spot kick being taken he was no where near the box. Would love for him to get his mojo back
I think it was a chance for redemption Lookman. He didn't contribute enough during the game and at least scoring the pen would have made up for his pathetic panenka.
Can we sign Jonathan Van Tam's covid vaccines group to take penalties. According to him the Oxford vaccine means that we have scored the first three penalties in a shoot-out.
Only at Fulham could we have a player kept on the pitch just in case we get a penalty and then when we get one he slips and falls on his arse and puts it into row Z
Quote from: jarv on November 23, 2020, 02:16:23 PM
Bring back Jim Langley. Never missed. (if he is still alive.)
Quote from: jarv on November 23, 2020, 02:16:23 PM
Bring back Jim Langley. Never missed. (if he is still alive.)
Seem to recall him missing a penalty for England, please correct me if I am wrong.
Quote from: jarv on November 23, 2020, 02:16:23 PM
Bring back Jim Langley. Never missed. (if he is still alive.)
Sorry to say Dear old Jim is no longer with us
Getting further away from the regular penalty takers is madness. Only going to increase the chances of missing. Mitro has been our regular pen taker. Parker should be telling him you are taking them. And I bet you once he's scored in a game he will be stepping straight back up anyway
Mitro should be taking no discussions. Why is he hiding? Must be confidence but I really didn't expect that from him because he's normally so boisterous on the pitch..
There should be 3 penalty takers, no more and they all need to be ready each week. If we are awarded a pen, you go first to #1, if he can't go then it's onto #2. If that player isn't available then it's off to #3. It's simple but best of all: It's a plan. If you fail, oh well, you had a plan and there's no confusion or arguments about who ought to be taking which penalty. Plans are all about preparation and that calms everyone down. Right now as far as penalties go, there appears to be no plan.
Quote from: Milo on November 23, 2020, 10:59:14 PM
Mitro should be taking no discussions. Why is he hiding? Must be confidence but I really didn't expect that from him because he's normally so boisterous on the pitch..
He's only human, whatever his image.
he took so much stick on social media over the last miss, and also missing other chances - do we think that it never gets to him?
And, in Fulham's position, every missed scoring chance can mean the difference between staying up and going down.
I suppose player always have the choice of whether to be nominated pen taker or not.
If a player doesn't feel confident, then he might feel on a hiding to nothing is he steps up to the plate.
Cav has a good pen record anyway, and obviously agreed to take them. Maybe the only one!
I think being Fulham's pen taker is a bit of a poisoned chalice at the moment, with few volunteers for this role!
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on November 24, 2020, 01:36:59 AM
There should be 3 penalty takers, no more and they all need to be ready each week. If we are awarded a pen, you go first to #1, if he can't go then it's onto #2. If that player isn't available then it's off to #3. It's simple but best of all: It's a plan. If you fail, oh well, you had a plan and there's no confusion or arguments about who ought to be taking which penalty. Plans are all about preparation and that calms everyone down. Right now as far as penalties go, there appears to be no plan.
What makes you think there's no plan? It sounds like you haven't been paying attention to what is actually said by Parker.
I find it very hard to believe that Cavaleiro was on the pitch for the sole purpose of taking a penalty, because that sounds absolutely imbecill. Did Parker actually say that, or is this just yet another fan made up thing that risks becoming the truth with all the regurgitating that goes on here?
Quote from: Sting of the North on November 24, 2020, 07:09:19 AM
I find it very hard to believe that Cavaleiro was on the pitch for the sole purpose of taking a penalty, because that sounds absolutely imbecill. Did Parker actually say that, or is this just yet another fan made up thing that risks becoming the truth with all the regurgitating that goes on here?
I'm certain that wasn't true - that parker wouldn't keep cav on just for that.
Even if, cav was the designated pen taker, as seems to be the case, then there had to be someone else designated to take them in the case of something happening to cav - he could have got injured for a start.
To be honest, i thought it was a joke , saying Parker kept him on because of that.
Whatever peeple think of him, Parker is a pro - been in the game since his teens, and would never keep a player on whom he thought should be replaced, in case there was a pen.
I'm sure every player in the team is capable of taking a decent pen, but it's having the nerve to step up, and then put it away, which is the problem - but they must all be well capable ot taking a pen, even the keeper.
i mean I, like most fans probably, could take a pen at age 71, as long as I hit hard, laces through the ball, low and straight, which means that if the keeper stood still in his line it would likely hit him - but I certainly wouldn't want to take a pen in such a pressurised situation.
I just use this as an example that all pro players must be able to take decent pen - a placed , accurate pen.
But i do think, if nervous, go for hard, low and straight - at least you'll hit the target and it has a good chance of going in - unless it actually hits the keeper, it's very hard to save.
But what do i know!
Historically Lookers has always been a bit fragile, if keeping him away from the pen spot maintains his confidence then so be it.
Pretty poor given his pay but confidence counts for a lot apparently?
BDR has the best record but was subbed I believe. I'd say the order is BDR, Mitro, Cav at a guess currently...
Quote from: Dixie on November 23, 2020, 10:47:15 AM
I'm amazed that he didn't - couldn't ask for a better opportunity to exorcise the demons from the Wet Spam game and redeem himself!
This is someone who is paid £60k a week to play football, he should be demanding the chance to prove that he's worth it.
It's a shame, because other than the very good assist for RLC's goal, he wasn't involved nearly enough, I hope his confidence hasn't gone
And if the coach said someone else was taking it?
