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Title: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: perry geyton on January 28, 2021, 06:10:40 PM
From turning draws into wins
I've been saying it for ages now, get him fit ASAP
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: perry geyton on January 28, 2021, 06:15:54 PM
And he can score goals too, play him behind a striker In a further forward position
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: Southcoastffc on January 28, 2021, 06:22:23 PM
Rose tinted glasses:
PL Appearances   52
Goals   3
Assists   2

Yes, we need a midfield controller and he's the one we have. Is he THE one to save us?  Maybe, but maybe not.
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: bobby01 on January 28, 2021, 06:30:17 PM
Never in a million years.
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: davew on January 28, 2021, 06:31:35 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on January 28, 2021, 06:30:17 PM
Never in a million years.
+ 1
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: BestOfBrede on January 28, 2021, 06:38:28 PM
Quote from: perry geyton on January 28, 2021, 06:10:40 PM
From turning draws into wins
I've been saying it for ages now, get him fit ASAP
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Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: filham on January 28, 2021, 06:42:34 PM
Cairney is a favourite player of mine and that sweet left foot should result in him scoring goals at a reasonable rate. Have to admit though that perhaps the premier league demands someone faster and more physical. Very brave of Parker to leave him out of starting elevens and it did seem to benefit the team.

Would love to see a fit Tom Cairney return to the team with a top performance and a couple of goals.
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: Pieter A’dam on January 28, 2021, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: davew on January 28, 2021, 06:31:35 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on January 28, 2021, 06:30:17 PM
Never in a million years.
+ 1
+2
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: Whitestone on January 28, 2021, 07:28:06 PM
I'm not so sure that TC is the missing link but he is definitely missed, maybe not as a regular starter but at the very least he gives Parker another option.
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: ALG01 on January 28, 2021, 08:15:40 PM
tom in this team would be  great thing but without a forward line it is all academic.
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: TC's Sporran on January 28, 2021, 08:19:48 PM
clear  man of the match v west brom and i dont buy into this not good enough for the prem one size fits all
against certain teams he will be good enough to unlock games

against other, better teams thats when you can say he's out of his depth and fall back on rlc's magic.
not every prem team is man city quality
and the west broms of this world are the teams where 3 points are up for grabs.

where were the posters saying +1 when he had a run of 3 or so games despite a knee injury where he was premiership class?

posters on here have selective memories to suit their agendas

its funny to see the posters who dislike tc give rlc praise at the drop of a hat and then go mia when he underperforms.

tc probably wont play again till easter anyway through injury and only then from the bench

Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: Simply91 on January 28, 2021, 09:59:45 PM
TC definitely has had his moments this season - he was class against West Brom, West Ham and scored a worldie versus Crystal Palace.

I would also argue that he is the clubs biggest legend in the last 4-5 years.

Deserves another opportunity to prove himself (and I back him to do so!)
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: Twig on January 28, 2021, 10:35:47 PM
Quote from: Pieter A'dam on January 28, 2021, 06:53:30 PM
Quote from: davew on January 28, 2021, 06:31:35 PM
Quote from: bobby01 on January 28, 2021, 06:30:17 PM
Never in a million years.
+ 1
+2

And I'll go -2
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: Twig on January 28, 2021, 10:39:24 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on January 28, 2021, 08:15:40 PM
tom in this team would be  great thing but without a forward line it is all academic.

True, not much good having a midfield creator if there's nobody to thrive on the supply.After seeing TC run into form earlier this season I now have no doubt he is Prem quality. I'm less sure about Mitro sadly, although I still think he needs a chance simply because there are so few alternatives,
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: perry geyton on January 29, 2021, 12:16:10 AM
Quote from: Twig on January 28, 2021, 10:39:24 PM
Quote from: ALG01 on January 28, 2021, 08:15:40 PM
tom in this team would be  great thing but without a forward line it is all academic.

True, not much good having a midfield creator if there's nobody to thrive on the supply.After seeing TC run into form earlier this season I now have no doubt he is Prem quality. I'm less sure about Mitro sadly, although I still think he needs a chance simply because there are so few alternatives,
Yeah well maybe Mitro needs Tom On the pitch to be at his best...

In my opinion the haters are small minded, all this he's not good enough nonsense I don't know where it comes from,  when TC is playing well he is easily prem quality and then some..
he needs a run of games and his confidence back.

Areola

Aina/Tete
Anderson
Tosin
Robinson

Reed/lemina
Anguissa

Cairney

Lookman
RLC/AK

Mitrovic

Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: perry geyton on January 29, 2021, 12:22:32 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on January 28, 2021, 07:28:06 PM
I'm not so sure that TC is the missing link but he is definitely missed, maybe not as a regular starter but at the very least he gives Parker another option.
He's not a bit part player, he needs to play consistently to be at his best
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: fancyfeet4 on January 29, 2021, 12:53:14 AM
I think we have been blinded by how bad we look.  Cairney is the king of playing square or negative passes.  He doesnt have enough of a cutting edge or engine.  He is a "tweener" player to me and a great Championship level guy, but not good enough for the Prem.
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: Statto on January 29, 2021, 01:30:59 AM
I'd definitely have him in the team against the likes of Brighton, West Brom et al

He's somewhat a 'luxury player' who doesn't do enough with or without possession against the better teams, but he can absolutely dominate Championship and bottom 6 PL opposition
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: ex-Pat on January 29, 2021, 04:01:58 AM
Hahahaha,,,missing link
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: FFCBadger on January 29, 2021, 07:44:15 AM
Possibly but it's all academic isnt it as he's long term injured - if we see him again this season I'd be suprised
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: perry geyton on January 29, 2021, 07:52:04 AM
Quote from: FFCBadger on January 29, 2021, 07:44:15 AM
Possibly but it's all academic isnt it as he's long term injured - if we see him again this season I'd be suprised
Not that bad is it ?
Nobody knows
I reckon he's a game or two away
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2021, 08:00:44 AM
Think Tom's done at this club,will be gone I Summer Window I believe.
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: colinwhite on January 29, 2021, 08:01:10 AM
Love watching Tc play but we have conceided so few goals without him in the side ,which is no coincidence unfortunately.
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: blingo on January 29, 2021, 08:07:36 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2021, 08:00:44 AM
Think Tom's done at this club,will be gone I Summer Window I believe.
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Either that or we will keep him for the Championship
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: Enfield on January 29, 2021, 09:12:13 AM
Been playing with a dodgy knee for a couple of years, a wonder he's played so well at times.
Needs lots of time to hopefully recover.
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: General on January 29, 2021, 11:12:58 AM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2021, 08:00:44 AM
Think Tom's done at this club,will be gone I Summer Window I believe.

Could be right I think. And in regards to the OP, I think Stefan had a better chance of converting our draws into wins and he's been shipped out. Parker is limited in his ability to manage, spot and nurture talent of other players who can add in the attacking third, not a huge suprise given the type of player he was, but simply becoming more evident. He doesn't do 'creative' well, or understand it.
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: TC's Sporran on January 29, 2021, 11:13:15 AM
its the other knee  parker said

and they are wanting to try something different to an operation





Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: FFC In Oz on January 29, 2021, 11:31:39 AM
I don't see Cairney as the missing link, in fact I think we've moved past him.
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: toshes mate on January 29, 2021, 12:00:41 PM
Quote from: General on January 29, 2021, 11:12:58 AM
Regards to the OP, I think Stefan had a better chance of converting our draws into wins and he's been shipped out. Parker is limited in his ability to manage, spot and nurture talent of other players who can add in the attacking third, not a huge suprise given the type of player he was, but simply becoming more evident. He doesn't do 'creative' well, or understand it.
IMO I think you sum up Parker's coaching credentials very well and I haven't been missing Cairney in the current side because it isn't very creative in the strict meaning of the word.  For Cairney to prosper we require possession and a return to a style reminiscent of Jokanovic's best days when we 'moved' opponents around until they could be opened up with just one pass or touch of creative magic.  Parker's methods are more akin to grinding out results by covering all the bases and, to be fair to him, when it works it can be very impressive.  However, when it goes wrong it can be horrible to watch. 

One point that sticks in my throat in this thread is when we are reduced to Cairney lovers or haters, small or large minded by virtue of 'our belief' or ' our opinion'.  Society and MSM is full of this right now and it is very, very, very unhealthy for everybody - and I do mean everybody.       
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2021, 12:11:46 PM
Where are you seeing all these people hating him from🤔
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: toshes mate on January 29, 2021, 12:20:18 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2021, 12:11:46 PM
Where are you seeing all these people hating him from🤔
If you bothered reading the thread you wouldn't need to ask ...
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: Mince n Tatties on January 29, 2021, 12:34:19 PM
Still can't see anybody saying they hate him.🤔
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: jarv on January 29, 2021, 01:28:57 PM
I watch every game. I feel when TC plays, the team is much better. (OK, he has not played so much).  His ability to pick a pass is right up there with the best. Yes, his stats in the premier don't look so good when based on final product. But individually, he brings a lot of others into the game.  He is committed to Fulham and I hope he can get over his injury and get back.
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: perry geyton on January 29, 2021, 04:01:07 PM
Anguissa and Reed are our steel but the pair of them don't have an eye for a creative ball
That's exactly what we are lacking
Toms not that old and still has a few Very good years in him,

People writing him off already ? Bunch of fickle fly by night supporters
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: Dodger53 on January 29, 2021, 04:02:19 PM
When we were relegated, within days Tom and Alex signed 5 year deals to stay with us. We all thought it was great news but it also told us they thought they were not PL players.
I suspect our loan players are on a big bonus to stay up and that is why heads are beginning to drop as each game goes by without a win.
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: colinwhite on January 29, 2021, 04:34:41 PM
Quote from: Dodger53 on January 29, 2021, 04:02:19 PM
When we were relegated, within days Tom and Alex signed 5 year deals to stay with us. We all thought it was great news but it also told us they thought they were not PL players.
I suspect our loan players are on a big bonus to stay up and that is why heads are beginning to drop as each game goes by without a win.

You imagined the heads dropping. That we definitely havent seen this year- in a single game !
Title: Re: Tom Cairney is the missing link
Post by: bobby01 on January 29, 2021, 05:15:14 PM
I have not noticed heads dropping tbh,