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Poll
Question: IN OR OUT
Option 1: IN votes: 44
Option 2: OUT votes: 55
Title: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: blingo on January 31, 2021, 09:10:19 AM
I don't get the love for this guy AT ALL. He has more interest in wrestling than FFC. Yes it makes much more money, but then appoint a DOF at our club that KNOWS what he is doing.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: FulhamStu on January 31, 2021, 09:14:04 AM
It's the fact he is unable to be in the country at all and can't give anywhere near to 100% as our DOF that I have voted out.  If that's all he did and lived in London I would have voted in.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Craven Mad on January 31, 2021, 09:26:15 AM
The owner's son has had three chances at making us a premier league team. He's failed every time.

It's time to end this vanity project and bring in someone with some more knowledge.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Peabody on January 31, 2021, 09:41:07 AM
How on earth are you going to achieve getting rid of the owners son, possibly you have a spare few millions in your sky rocket to get what you want?
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: ron on January 31, 2021, 09:42:31 AM
"The Peter Principle" states that everyone is promoted to their level of incompetence. But not in TK's case - but only because his father installed him at his level of incompetence without having to go through the tedious promotion process first.....
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: blingo on January 31, 2021, 09:51:27 AM
Not at all, but if SK even becomes aware of just how incompetent TK is, then that will be good enough.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: sarnian on January 31, 2021, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

They also couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery yet they think they know all the intricacies of running multi million businesses like a football club.  :plus one: :yay:
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: cookieg on January 31, 2021, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: sarnian on January 31, 2021, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

They also couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery yet they think they know all the intricacies of running multi million businesses like a football club.  :plus one: :yay:

And you do know how to run a football club?
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: bill taylors apprentice on January 31, 2021, 10:13:07 AM
I don't like what I see of him as a personality, not based on much I know.
I don't think he's done a good job over his time at the club either considering his spending power.

Whether he stays or not now is irrelevant, the windows about to close and we have been left with too many players but not enough of the quality or type to keep us up.

By the end of the season he should go and a new man given a chance.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: john dempsey on January 31, 2021, 10:17:45 AM
Same people calling for T khans head because
of his inexperience/mistakes are mostly the ones
calling for patience with our inexperienced mistake ridden
manager.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Twig on January 31, 2021, 10:31:38 AM
Quote from: sarnian on January 31, 2021, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

They also couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery yet they think they know all the intricacies of running multi million businesses like a football club.  :plus one: :yay:

Excuse me but I was a successful business director and then an international consultant until I retired.  I think I know very well how to "organise a p**** upon a brewery".  I have no idea as to your capabilities and I couldn't care less. Trying pathetically to insult fellow supporters is hardly a way to win an argument is it.

As to the OP I voted out but am well aware it won't happen. I saw this as a bit of light hearted fun. A way to see what people's different views are. Personally I would prefer a dedicated professionally qualified, full time DoF. I just think the job is that important.
Happy to see TK in some sort of part time commercial role that fits in with his other interests. I have absolutely nothing against the guy.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: FFC1987 on January 31, 2021, 10:33:05 AM
I'd be interested to hear from the In crowd after the deadline tomorrow. If we don't sign a significant striker, and I don't been some borderline youth player, I just don't see how his position is tenable. He's made this squad, he's employed a manager who regardless of whether you think his lack of points and wins is relative success or disaster, is still making us relegation fodder for yet another season. We then look all out of sorts if we go down with what, yet another rebuild. Whilst I'd like to see the back of Parker if better is brought it, it's not all Scotts fault. Like any business, the higher you go, the more responsibility one bears and I don't think the top is Parker......Saying that, Parker isn't also the answer so......
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Twig on January 31, 2021, 10:33:12 AM
Quote from: john dempsey on January 31, 2021, 10:17:45 AM
Same people calling for T khans head because
of his inexperience/mistakes are mostly the ones
calling for patience with our inexperienced mistake ridden
manager.


Who is dedicated full time to the role and professionally qualified. Bit of a difference there no?
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: john dempsey on January 31, 2021, 10:40:06 AM
Quote from: Twig on January 31, 2021, 10:33:12 AM
Quote from: john dempsey on January 31, 2021, 10:17:45 AM
Same people calling for T khans head because
of his inexperience/mistakes are mostly the ones
calling for patience with our inexperienced mistake ridden
manager.


Who is dedicated full time to the role and professionally qualified. Bit of a difference there no?
Well as far as I can see at the moment parker is just
another in a long line of failing young English managers.
maybe there is something wrong with the professionally qualified people
who hand out coaching badges.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2021, 10:42:25 AM
A good point made by the OP, so for me it is OUT OUT and thrice OUT no later than the end of the season to enable the club to find a suitable qualified replacement and not another imposter. His father should swallow his pride even if it means moving him sideways to save face.
Enough is a enough, Fulham is only as strong as its weakest link and the owners son in the position of D of F  is the weakest link, a boil under the armpit of all the managers that have had the misfortune of serving under him. Remember he was the best mate of CK he got CK the job wink wink nod nod say no more.
As for the word Nepotism, you will find that in the English Dictionary between Negligent and Nonchalant.   
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: sarnian on January 31, 2021, 10:44:41 AM
Quote from: Twig on January 31, 2021, 10:31:38 AM
Quote from: sarnian on January 31, 2021, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

They also couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery yet they think they know all the intricacies of running multi million businesses like a football club.  :plus one: :yay:

Excuse me but I was a successful business director and then an international consultant until I retired.  I think I know very well how to "organise a p**** upon a brewery".  I have no idea as to your capabilities and I couldn't care less. Trying pathetically to insult fellow supporters is hardly a way to win an argument is it.

As to the OP I voted out but am well aware it won't happen. I saw this as a bit of light hearted fun. A way to see what people's different views are. Personally I would prefer a dedicated professionally qualified, full time DoF. I just think the job is that important.
Happy to see TK in some sort of part time commercial role that fits in with his other interests. I have absolutely nothing against the guy.

Sorry if you misinterpreted my post Twig it was meant like you say as light hearted fun.  Like you I know how to run a business as although 75 I hold majority shares in one company and am a director of 2 others.

I think all on this board would prefer to see an experienced DOF but I'm afraid it doesn't look like that will happen. Nobody can fault the moneys put in by the Khans and deep down I believe that if it wasn't for them and MAF we would now be competing with the likes of Sunderland and Ipswich.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: davew on January 31, 2021, 10:46:39 AM
Quote from: cookieg on January 31, 2021, 10:11:36 AM
Quote from: sarnian on January 31, 2021, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

They also couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery yet they think they know all the intricacies of running multi million businesses like a football club.  :plus one: :yay:

And you do know how to run a football club?
Apparently so, maybe he can score goals as well, sign him up now!!
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Statto on January 31, 2021, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

Stupid analysis. Does anyone saying Bobby Reid should have scored that second one-on-one yesterday have to play up front themselves next week?

Anyway FWIW I'm 90% sure I could do a better job than TK... but also 100% certain there are plenty of experienced DoFs out there who could do a better job.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Statto on January 31, 2021, 10:52:17 AM
Quote from: blingo on January 31, 2021, 09:10:19 AM
I don't get the love for this guy AT ALL. He has more interest in wrestling than FFC. Yes it makes much more money, but then appoint a DOF at our club that KNOWS what he is doing.

Let's be honest, there's no real "love" for the guy among UK-based Fulham fans. Not sure where you got that from.

Fans seem to fall into two camps:

One group think he's a bit of a prat, not very good at his job, a bit of an embarrassment to the club, but a price we have to pay for the positive things his dad has done like developing the ground and pumping millions into the coffers.

The other group just think he's a bit of a prat, not very good at his job, and a bit of an embarrassment to the club.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Twig on January 31, 2021, 10:52:44 AM
Quote from: sarnian on January 31, 2021, 10:44:41 AM
Quote from: Twig on January 31, 2021, 10:31:38 AM
Quote from: sarnian on January 31, 2021, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

They also couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery yet they think they know all the intricacies of running multi million businesses like a football club.  :plus one: :yay:

Excuse me but I was a successful business director and then an international consultant until I retired.  I think I know very well how to "organise a p**** upon a brewery".  I have no idea as to your capabilities and I couldn't care less. Trying pathetically to insult fellow supporters is hardly a way to win an argument is it.

As to the OP I voted out but am well aware it won't happen. I saw this as a bit of light hearted fun. A way to see what people's different views are. Personally I would prefer a dedicated professionally qualified, full time DoF. I just think the job is that important.
Happy to see TK in some sort of part time commercial role that fits in with his other interests. I have absolutely nothing against the guy.

Sorry if you misinterpreted my post Twig it was meant like you say as light hearted fun.  Like you I know how to run a business as although 75 I hold majority shares in one company and am a director of 2 others.

I think all on this board would prefer to see an experienced DOF but I'm afraid it doesn't look like that will happen. Nobody can fault the moneys put in by the Khans and deep down I believe that if it wasn't for them and MAF we would now be competing with the likes of Sunderland and Ipswich.

Fair enough
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: blingo on January 31, 2021, 11:05:11 AM
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2021, 10:52:17 AM
Quote from: blingo on January 31, 2021, 09:10:19 AM
I don't get the love for this guy AT ALL. He has more interest in wrestling than FFC. Yes it makes much more money, but then appoint a DOF at our club that KNOWS what he is doing.

Let's be honest, there's no real "love" for the guy among UK-based Fulham fans. Not sure where you got that from.

Fans seem to fall into two camps:

One group think he's a bit of a prat, not very good at his job, a bit of an embarrassment to the club, but a price we have to pay for the positive things his dad has done like developing the ground and pumping millions into the coffers.

The other group just think he's a bit of a prat, not very good at his job, and a bit of an embarrassment to the club.


you made me laugh Statto.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Fulham Tup North on January 31, 2021, 11:46:41 AM
I voted IN simply because regardless of what we think of the Khan's or primarily Tony K..... it makes no ha'pence of difference.... he is going nowhere.... his Dad will not remove him.... we are where we are unfortunately....
COYW
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Plodder on January 31, 2021, 11:53:22 AM
"In" because Shahid Khan would walk away before sacking his own son, and we would be in a situation similar to where we were in 1987 but without a Jimmy Hill led consortium to rescue us.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: colinwhite on January 31, 2021, 11:56:11 AM
Quote from: Plodder on January 31, 2021, 11:53:22 AM
"In" because Shahid Khan would walk away before sacking his own son, and we would be in a situation similar to where we were in 1987 but without a Jimmy Hill led consortium to rescue us.

Yes agree ,which makes the poll and original question irrelevant as far as Im concerned. Life is more complicated than in or out Blingo. That choice would have  to be lots of different provisoes.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Sgt Fulham on January 31, 2021, 12:12:56 PM
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2021, 10:52:17 AM
Quote from: blingo on January 31, 2021, 09:10:19 AM
I don't get the love for this guy AT ALL. He has more interest in wrestling than FFC. Yes it makes much more money, but then appoint a DOF at our club that KNOWS what he is doing.

Let's be honest, there's no real "love" for the guy among UK-based Fulham fans. Not sure where you got that from.

Fans seem to fall into two camps:

One group think he's a bit of a prat, not very good at his job, a bit of an embarrassment to the club, but a price we have to pay for the positive things his dad has done like developing the ground and pumping millions into the coffers.

The other group just think he's a bit of a prat, not very good at his job, and a bit of an embarrassment to the club.

Perfectly summarised.

I could stomach TK if he didn't have 3 jobs, each of which need to be performed by a qualified full-time professional to be done successfully. Tony Khan plays these roles as if it were a big game, and it really shows. It is disrespectful to the fan base and from what I gather the Jags fans feel the same way. Like them, the financial backing from Shahid cannot be questioned, but if that comes with Tony Khan as a package deal then it may be a long time before we see survival in the Prem.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: S.F.Sorrow on January 31, 2021, 12:12:58 PM
I think the question we need to ask ourselves is whether we are happy with a DoF/Head of Recruitment/etc. who would be considered massively unqualified for the job at ANY club where his daddy isn't the owner. To me he's just an embarrasment.

If Khan Sr will only fund the club as a plaything for his son he's a poor owner too and we are better off without him. With FFP limiting how much we can spend we don't really need a stinking rich owner, just a moderately rich one with the heart in the right place. But we don't KNOW if Khan Sr. would keep the money flowing or not without his son as DoF, do we?

TK OUT and the jury still out on Khan Sr. for me.

I wouldn't mind TK as vice president/poster boy with no saying in the footballing side of things though, if that would keep daddy happy and the money flowing.

And I'm also realistic enough to realise that we will be stuck with TK for as long as Khan Sr. owns the club or until TK finds a new toy (maybe the men in tights will take up too much of his time and he will take the honorable way out and resign...).
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Whitestone on January 31, 2021, 12:22:10 PM
Tony Khan has three high profile roles. It's not realistic for any person to be able to fully commit to all three at the same time. The Director of Football role is a full time job that in an ideal world requires the job holder to be permanently based in the city where that football club is located. It is inconceivable that any one let alone Tony Khan who had no prior experience in a football capacity could be expected to successfully manage to juggle DOF at Fulham, Co-owner at the Jags and President of a wrestling business. Something has to give. I feel that Fulham are being done a disservice and deserve a full time DOF with all the right credentials. It is time for Tony Khan to step aside and for Shahid Khan to appoint a new fully focused and qualified DOF.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: grandad on January 31, 2021, 12:36:31 PM
The only way he would be out is if the TK haters put up the money to buy Shad out. The Club would soon disappear  with that lot running the Club.
The only way to satisfy everyone would be to move TK sideways into a role of General manager dealing with the new stand & promoting the Club to maximize outside of football matters. An experienced D of F in the mould of Wenger & Hodgson could then be brought in.

Don´t forget TK ,at some future time, will inherit all of his father´s businesses. We had better keep him sweet.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Penfold on January 31, 2021, 12:37:43 PM
Quote from: Plodder on January 31, 2021, 11:53:22 AM
"In" because Shahid Khan would walk away before sacking his own son, and we would be in a situation similar to where we were in 1987 but without a Jimmy Hill led consortium to rescue us.

Why? He didn't immediately install him as DoF as soon as he bought the club?
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: HV71 on January 31, 2021, 12:48:23 PM
He doesn't have to be sacked - he should have a role with the club - but 100% not DOF . We need a full time professional football person who has a track record in the role.
As a former board director of an international company I never worked with an FD who wasn't qualified or a HR director who hadn't taken the relevant exams .
This is too big a role for a part time amateur .
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Statto on January 31, 2021, 12:57:17 PM
Agree with the HV71. MAF had his own guys on the board. IIRC a PR guy he worked with for years on various projects, and at least one of his sons. But they had relatively passive roles. I don't recall ever hearing them speak in the media, or anything that suggested they intervened in football decisions. They just acted as MAF's eyes and ears whilst he juggled other business interests, and ensured things kept ticking over smoothly. TK's role should be based on that model.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: ALG01 on January 31, 2021, 01:00:15 PM
i think TK is a decent man with the best interest of the team at heart
but as the old saying goes, the road to hell is paved with good intention

TK is clearly an amateur in a shark pool full of the unscrupulous and added to that he paints by numbers, i.e. he has theories about how to select players and not a lifetime of experience. his dad indulges him because he has the money so to do. if TK was a real professional he would step aside and allow profesionals to run the show, just as MAF did, and not attempt to be an expert at something he is not.

we have had so many avoidable errors made, it is hard enough when you put your best foot forward and it doesn't work out. but really, the lack of forwards, kongolo, mason, seri still on the books, its all crazy, you can't make it up.

time for him to step aside, not leave, not show no interets, but leave the job he has to people that at least know what they are doing.

Parker, has no chance to take us forward until that happens.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Wingnut on January 31, 2021, 01:02:00 PM
I voted out. I've a lot of time for SK, and I think he's a very good owner, but TK is not a DoF. I've no problem with the guy at all, and I think he should have a role at he club but DoF is a step too far for him.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: blingo on January 31, 2021, 01:10:35 PM
Quote from: colinwhite on January 31, 2021, 11:56:11 AM
Quote from: Plodder on January 31, 2021, 11:53:22 AM
"In" because Shahid Khan would walk away before sacking his own son, and we would be in a situation similar to where we were in 1987 but without a Jimmy Hill led consortium to rescue us.

Yes agree ,which makes the poll and original question irrelevant as far as Im concerned. Life is more complicated than in or out Blingo. That choice would have  to be lots of different provisoes.


So the point of your responding to my OP is totally irrelevant
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: alfie on January 31, 2021, 03:34:42 PM
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2021, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

Stupid analysis. Does anyone saying Bobby Reid should have scored that second one-on-one yesterday have to play up front themselves next week?

Anyway FWIW I'm 90% sure I could do a better job than TK... but also 100% certain there are plenty of experienced DoFs out there who could do a better job.
So Areola, Anderson, Tosin, Robinson, Tete, Lemina, all magically appeared.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Penfold on January 31, 2021, 04:21:43 PM
Quote from: alfie on January 31, 2021, 03:34:42 PM
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2021, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

Stupid analysis. Does anyone saying Bobby Reid should have scored that second one-on-one yesterday have to play up front themselves next week?

Anyway FWIW I'm 90% sure I could do a better job than TK... but also 100% certain there are plenty of experienced DoFs out there who could do a better job.
So Areola, Anderson, Tosin, Robinson, Tete, Lemina, all magically appeared.


And what's to say another DoF could not have signed them?
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: alfie on January 31, 2021, 06:56:47 PM
Quote from: Penfold on January 31, 2021, 04:21:43 PM
Quote from: alfie on January 31, 2021, 03:34:42 PM
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2021, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

Stupid analysis. Does anyone saying Bobby Reid should have scored that second one-on-one yesterday have to play up front themselves next week?

Anyway FWIW I'm 90% sure I could do a better job than TK... but also 100% certain there are plenty of experienced DoFs out there who could do a better job.
So Areola, Anderson, Tosin, Robinson, Tete, Lemina, all magically appeared.


And what's to say another DoF could not have signed them?
Of course another dof could have signed them, I don't get your point.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: hovewhite on January 31, 2021, 07:06:55 PM
When your hired by your father doesnt matter what we think cause he thinks he's doing the job and keeps him quiet.
For me both of them Khan Sr and son they still haven't a clue.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Statto on January 31, 2021, 07:17:25 PM
Quote from: alfie on January 31, 2021, 06:56:47 PM
Quote from: Penfold on January 31, 2021, 04:21:43 PM
Quote from: alfie on January 31, 2021, 03:34:42 PM
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2021, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

Stupid analysis. Does anyone saying Bobby Reid should have scored that second one-on-one yesterday have to play up front themselves next week?

Anyway FWIW I'm 90% sure I could do a better job than TK... but also 100% certain there are plenty of experienced DoFs out there who could do a better job.
So Areola, Anderson, Tosin, Robinson, Tete, Lemina, all magically appeared.


And what's to say another DoF could not have signed them?
Of course another dof could have signed them, I don't get your point.


May I ask what your point is then, because to be honest I'm at a total loss...
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: SouthIslandWhite on January 31, 2021, 09:07:55 PM
Out for one simple reason: no offence but he's not a football man.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Maidstone Lee on January 31, 2021, 09:39:48 PM
I want Tony Khan gone from our club but we all know Shahid won't give him the push so we are stuck with this indefinitely. Absolutely infuriating. I believe we're all but gone now, was hopeful going into the West Brom game but not now. Parker has to really go for it in the remaining games there is now no other choice. Defence first attack second will not give us the slim fighting chance we have left.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2021, 09:40:23 PM
Quote from: SouthIslandWhite on January 31, 2021, 09:07:55 PM
Out for one simple reason: no offence but he's not a football man.

Precisely, and that is as good as any reason.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2021, 09:43:09 PM
He's out at the moment,apparently gone to get hotdogs(easy on the onions).🌭🌭🌭
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2021, 09:43:42 PM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on January 31, 2021, 09:39:48 PM
I want Tony Khan gone from our club but we all know Shahid won't give him the push so we are stuck with this indefinitely. Absolutely infuriating. I believe we're all but gone now, was hopeful going into the West Brom game but not now. Parker has to really go for it in the remaining games there is now no other choice. Defence first attack second will not give us the slim fighting chance we have left.

We have to get on the front foot as wins are even more crucial, we have players that can save a game, but we now need players that can win games back to back.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on January 31, 2021, 09:45:28 PM
Quote from: Mince n Tatties on January 31, 2021, 09:43:09 PM
He's out at the moment,apparently gone to get hotdogs(easy on the onions).🌭🌭🌭

Whilst watching Tom and Gerry.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 01, 2021, 03:13:22 AM
So we are all agreed then TK goes.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: grandad on February 01, 2021, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 01, 2021, 03:13:22 AM
So we are all agreed then TK goes.

Not from me. Move sideways ,yes & bring in a football experienced D of F.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: junior white on February 01, 2021, 08:50:37 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 01, 2021, 03:13:22 AM
So we are all agreed then TK goes.
From the survey it seems we are all not agreed
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Maidstone Lee on February 01, 2021, 09:14:38 AM
Either he goes or retains come commercial capacity only. Not as Director of Football.

I'm still just disappointed with this whole situation, nothing has been learnt.  :012:
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 01, 2021, 09:33:57 AM
Quote from: junior white on February 01, 2021, 08:50:37 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 01, 2021, 03:13:22 AM
So we are all agreed then TK goes.
From the survey it seems we are all not agreed

Majority rules, and you cannot defend the indefensible.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 01, 2021, 09:38:27 AM
Quote from: grandad on February 01, 2021, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 01, 2021, 03:13:22 AM
So we are all agreed then TK goes.

Not from me. Move sideways ,yes & bring in a football experienced D of F.

He can move sideways I have no problem with that as long as he does not interfere with anything to do with D of F, in fact he should not have anything to do with Association Football at all with Fulham.
He has plenty of other toys to play with.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Woolly Mammoth on February 01, 2021, 09:40:29 AM
Quote from: Maidstone Lee on February 01, 2021, 09:14:38 AM
Either he goes or retains come commercial capacity only. Not as Director of Football.

I'm still just disappointed with this whole situation, nothing has been learnt.  :012:

Precisely ........Rome burns whilst Nero fiddles comes to mind.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Neutral Zone Ultra on February 01, 2021, 09:53:17 AM
Quote from: Whitestone on January 31, 2021, 12:22:10 PM
Tony Khan has three high profile roles. It's not realistic for any person to be able to fully commit to all three at the same time. The Director of Football role is a full time job that in an ideal world requires the job holder to be permanently based in the city where that football club is located. It is inconceivable that any one let alone Tony Khan who had no prior experience in a football capacity could be expected to successfully manage to juggle DOF at Fulham, Co-owner at the Jags and President of a wrestling business. Something has to give. I feel that Fulham are being done a disservice and deserve a full time DOF with all the right credentials. It is time for Tony Khan to step aside and for Shahid Khan to appoint a new fully focused and qualified DOF.
This sums it up perfectly for me. He spreads himself too thinly, to the detriment of both Fulham and the Jags. Would be telling if AEW flopped as well.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: john dempsey on February 01, 2021, 10:01:53 AM
   INFAMY  INFAMY. that's 2 votes
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Whitestone on February 01, 2021, 10:17:30 AM
Quote from: grandad on February 01, 2021, 08:47:47 AM
Quote from: Woolly Mammoth on February 01, 2021, 03:13:22 AM
So we are all agreed then TK goes.

Not from me. Move sideways ,yes & bring in a football experienced D of F.

This is it how I see it. TK has taken on too much. He is trying to manage three high profile roles at the same time.  FFC , the Jags and Elite Wrestling. It's not rocket science to see that that's too much for anyone. Couple it with the fact that TK doesn't have a football background and you have a recipe for disaster. We are crying out for someone with enough experience, drive and passion to carry out the role successfully on a full time basis located at Motspur Park. I truly hope that TK is able to self reflect, work this out and take a step sideways.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: FulhamStu on February 01, 2021, 11:17:39 AM
Covid gives TK a way out without losing face, he could even promote himself to a grander titled job within the club, this has been suggested by a lot of fans on here and I agree.  I think he does love the club, also loves to be involved with the playing staff and management/head coach.  Find a suitable role and give him power but get a DOF that can give the role 100% focus and be present at Motspur Park most of the time.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: alfie on February 01, 2021, 11:29:12 AM
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2021, 07:17:25 PM
Quote from: alfie on January 31, 2021, 06:56:47 PM
Quote from: Penfold on January 31, 2021, 04:21:43 PM
Quote from: alfie on January 31, 2021, 03:34:42 PM
Quote from: Statto on January 31, 2021, 10:47:43 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

Stupid analysis. Does anyone saying Bobby Reid should have scored that second one-on-one yesterday have to play up front themselves next week?

Anyway FWIW I'm 90% sure I could do a better job than TK... but also 100% certain there are plenty of experienced DoFs out there who could do a better job.
So Areola, Anderson, Tosin, Robinson, Tete, Lemina, all magically appeared.


And what's to say another DoF could not have signed them?
Of course another dof could have signed them, I don't get your point.


May I ask what your point is then, because to be honest I'm at a total loss...
You know exactly what my point is, your much better than that.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: joshfulham on February 01, 2021, 03:01:04 PM
Out out OUT.....

The guy regularly gets into social media arguments with our fans, getting abusive every time. The fella has a bloody spreadsheet with the details of anyone who's ever criticised him on social media.

He has now failed to build a balanced squad for the Premier League twice, while also having a big role in the worst team in the NFL.

TK recently said it himself, something along the lines of... "A few years ago you Fulham fans would have dreamed of being a yoyo club".

This is just scratching the surface. He's a complete narcissistic tool who hasn't got a clue what he's doing and holds a genuine disdain towards a large number of our own fans.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: davew on February 01, 2021, 03:15:42 PM
Quote from: Wingnut on January 31, 2021, 01:02:00 PM
I voted out. I've a lot of time for SK, and I think he's a very good owner, but TK is not a DoF. I've no problem with the guy at all, and I think he should have a role at he club but DoF is a step too far for him.
When is Hilda retiring, TK would be an ideal replacenebt!
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: FFC In Oz on February 01, 2021, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: joshfulham on February 01, 2021, 03:01:04 PM
Out out OUT.....

The guy regularly gets into social media arguments with our fans, getting abusive every time. The fella has a bloody spreadsheet with the details of anyone who's ever criticised him on social media.

He has now failed to build a balanced squad for the Premier League twice, while also having a big role in the worst team in the NFL.

TK recently said it himself, something along the lines of... "A few years ago you Fulham fans would have dreamed of being a yoyo club".

This is just scratching the surface. He's a complete narcissistic tool who hasn't got a clue what he's doing and holds a genuine disdain towards a large number of our own fans.

The quote was "When I took over we would have absolutely killed to have been a yo yo club"

What an ignorant remark.

His obsession with doing business on deadline day continually hurts us too.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: joshfulham on February 01, 2021, 03:29:42 PM
Quote from: FFC In Oz on February 01, 2021, 03:19:40 PM
Quote from: joshfulham on February 01, 2021, 03:01:04 PM
Out out OUT.....

The guy regularly gets into social media arguments with our fans, getting abusive every time. The fella has a bloody spreadsheet with the details of anyone who's ever criticised him on social media.

He has now failed to build a balanced squad for the Premier League twice, while also having a big role in the worst team in the NFL.

TK recently said it himself, something along the lines of... "A few years ago you Fulham fans would have dreamed of being a yoyo club".

This is just scratching the surface. He's a complete narcissistic tool who hasn't got a clue what he's doing and holds a genuine disdain towards a large number of our own fans.

The quote was "When I took over we would have absolutely killed to have been a yo yo club"

What an ignorant remark.

His obsession with doing business on deadline day continually hurts us too.

Thanks, knew it was something like that. No fan of a club who were a mainstay of the top division before the Khans took over would want to be a yoyo club. It's just such a ridiculous comment and offensive to our fanbase.

He explained a while ago why he likes doing business on deadline day, and I understood it at the time, but it means we have the same problem every single season... A slow start! Which you can just about get away with in the Championship, but certainly not in this unforgiving division as we are finding out now.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Logicalman on February 01, 2021, 03:32:05 PM
Quote from: joshfulham on February 01, 2021, 03:01:04 PM
Out out OUT.....

The guy regularly gets into social media arguments with our fans, getting abusive every time. The fella has a bloody spreadsheet with the details of anyone who's ever criticised him on social media.

He has now failed to build a balanced squad for the Premier League twice, while also having a big role in the worst team in the NFL.

TK recently said it himself, something along the lines of... "A few years ago you Fulham fans would have dreamed of being a yoyo club".

This is just scratching the surface. He's a complete narcissistic tool who hasn't got a clue what he's doing and holds a genuine disdain towards a large number of our own fans.

I wouldn't base that on anything substantial, remember MaF?  and that was all over a statue!!
http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/83275.html (http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/83275.html)
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Dr Quinzel on February 01, 2021, 04:24:21 PM
Good to see nothing has changed here  :dead horse:
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Statto on February 01, 2021, 05:07:51 PM
Quote from: Logicalman on February 01, 2021, 03:32:05 PM
Quote from: joshfulham on February 01, 2021, 03:01:04 PM
Out out OUT.....

The guy regularly gets into social media arguments with our fans, getting abusive every time. The fella has a bloody spreadsheet with the details of anyone who's ever criticised him on social media.

He has now failed to build a balanced squad for the Premier League twice, while also having a big role in the worst team in the NFL.

TK recently said it himself, something along the lines of... "A few years ago you Fulham fans would have dreamed of being a yoyo club".

This is just scratching the surface. He's a complete narcissistic tool who hasn't got a clue what he's doing and holds a genuine disdain towards a large number of our own fans.

I wouldn't base that on anything substantial, remember MaF?  and that was all over a statue!!
http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/83275.html (http://en.espn.co.uk/football/sport/story/83275.html)

But considering how we progressed under MAF up to that point, the equivalent under the Khans would be TK having a one-off Twitter rant in a few years' time, shortly after we've won back-to-back PL titles and Champions' League trophies. In that context I'd be inclined to let it slide.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: blingo on February 01, 2021, 06:19:23 PM
The comment showed a complete lack of respect for all Fulham fans.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Texas White on February 01, 2021, 07:21:22 PM
Quote from: Twig on January 31, 2021, 10:31:38 AM
Quote from: sarnian on January 31, 2021, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

They also couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery yet they think they know all the intricacies of running multi million businesses like a football club.  :plus one: :yay:

Excuse me but I was a successful business director and then an international consultant until I retired.  I think I know very well how to "organise a p**** upon a brewery".  I have no idea as to your capabilities and I couldn't care less. Trying pathetically to insult fellow supporters is hardly a way to win an argument is it.

As to the OP I voted out but am well aware it won't happen. I saw this as a bit of light hearted fun. A way to see what people's different views are. Personally I would prefer a dedicated professionally qualified, full time DoF. I just think the job is that important.
Happy to see TK in some sort of part time commercial role that fits in with his other interests. I have absolutely nothing against the guy.

If anyone has not watched Sunderland till I die. You need to. It's an impossible job, players egos, agents and no loyalty. We are buying last minute because that's our place in the line. The media has made it show if you show an earlier interest it drives the price.  I think he tries hard at an impossible  job.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: HV71 on February 01, 2021, 07:31:13 PM
As others have pointed out more eloquently than I - many on here recognised our need for anoustriker back in summer. I understand that if you go early then that can drive the price up - but if you don't have options for x games then losing them comes at a huge financial cost. Leaving it so late also doesn't do a great deal for your negotiating position when you are clearly inthe mire. The selling club can see your desperation and the player is also less likely to come ( which can only hit you in the pocket if you can persuade him )

TK is the archetypal knowing the price of everything and the value of nothing's
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Twig on February 01, 2021, 09:40:13 PM
Quote from: Texas White on February 01, 2021, 07:21:22 PM
Quote from: Twig on January 31, 2021, 10:31:38 AM
Quote from: sarnian on January 31, 2021, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

They also couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery yet they think they know all the intricacies of running multi million businesses like a football club.  :plus one: :yay:

Excuse me but I was a successful business director and then an international consultant until I retired.  I think I know very well how to "organise a p**** upon a brewery".  I have no idea as to your capabilities and I couldn't care less. Trying pathetically to insult fellow supporters is hardly a way to win an argument is it.

As to the OP I voted out but am well aware it won't happen. I saw this as a bit of light hearted fun. A way to see what people's different views are. Personally I would prefer a dedicated professionally qualified, full time DoF. I just think the job is that important.
Happy to see TK in some sort of part time commercial role that fits in with his other interests. I have absolutely nothing against the guy.

If anyone has not watched Sunderland till I die. You need to. It's an impossible job, players egos, agents and no loyalty. We are buying last minute because that's our place in the line. The media has made it show if you show an earlier interest it drives the price.  I think he tries hard at an impossible  job.


He doesn't try hard because he only works part time from the other side of the Atlantic  Trying hard in my world is 100% focussed on the job.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Sgt Fulham on February 01, 2021, 11:18:22 PM
Quote from: Texas White on February 01, 2021, 07:21:22 PM
Quote from: Twig on January 31, 2021, 10:31:38 AM
Quote from: sarnian on January 31, 2021, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

They also couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery yet they think they know all the intricacies of running multi million businesses like a football club.  :plus one: :yay:

Excuse me but I was a successful business director and then an international consultant until I retired.  I think I know very well how to "organise a p**** upon a brewery".  I have no idea as to your capabilities and I couldn't care less. Trying pathetically to insult fellow supporters is hardly a way to win an argument is it.

As to the OP I voted out but am well aware it won't happen. I saw this as a bit of light hearted fun. A way to see what people's different views are. Personally I would prefer a dedicated professionally qualified, full time DoF. I just think the job is that important.
Happy to see TK in some sort of part time commercial role that fits in with his other interests. I have absolutely nothing against the guy.

If anyone has not watched Sunderland till I die. You need to. It's an impossible job, players egos, agents and no loyalty. We are buying last minute because that's our place in the line. The media has made it show if you show an earlier interest it drives the price.  I think he tries hard at an impossible  job.


So impossible that other clubs seem to manage it. Even clubs with a lower budget that are less attractive than our own. A hard job for sure, but let's not overdo it. Also STID was eye-opening but they were more of a shambles than we are. And we have the London factor.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Blawarmy on February 01, 2021, 11:20:59 PM
Quote from: Sgt Fulham on February 01, 2021, 11:18:22 PM
Quote from: Texas White on February 01, 2021, 07:21:22 PM
Quote from: Twig on January 31, 2021, 10:31:38 AM
Quote from: sarnian on January 31, 2021, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

They also couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery yet they think they know all the intricacies of running multi million businesses like a football club.  :plus one: :yay:

Excuse me but I was a successful business director and then an international consultant until I retired.  I think I know very well how to "organise a p**** upon a brewery".  I have no idea as to your capabilities and I couldn't care less. Trying pathetically to insult fellow supporters is hardly a way to win an argument is it.

As to the OP I voted out but am well aware it won't happen. I saw this as a bit of light hearted fun. A way to see what people's different views are. Personally I would prefer a dedicated professionally qualified, full time DoF. I just think the job is that important.
Happy to see TK in some sort of part time commercial role that fits in with his other interests. I have absolutely nothing against the guy.

If anyone has not watched Sunderland till I die. You need to. It's an impossible job, players egos, agents and no loyalty. We are buying last minute because that's our place in the line. The media has made it show if you show an earlier interest it drives the price.  I think he tries hard at an impossible  job.


So impossible that other clubs seem to manage it. Even clubs with a lower budget that are less attractive than our own. A hard job for sure, but let's not overdo it. Also STID was eye-opening but they were more of a shambles than we are. And we have the London factor.
WBA - FIVE IN!!
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Andy S on February 01, 2021, 11:22:21 PM
Careful what you wish for
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: The Rational Fan on February 01, 2021, 11:34:35 PM
Quote from: Texas White on February 01, 2021, 07:21:22 PM
Quote from: Twig on January 31, 2021, 10:31:38 AM
Quote from: sarnian on January 31, 2021, 09:57:28 AM
Quote from: deadcowboys on January 31, 2021, 09:43:08 AM
Does this mean all those voting out are going to raid their piggy banks to cover the shortfall in money?   064.gif

They also couldn't organise a p*** up in a brewery yet they think they know all the intricacies of running multi million businesses like a football club.  :plus one: :yay:

Excuse me but I was a successful business director and then an international consultant until I retired.  I think I know very well how to "organise a p**** upon a brewery".  I have no idea as to your capabilities and I couldn't care less. Trying pathetically to insult fellow supporters is hardly a way to win an argument is it.

As to the OP I voted out but am well aware it won't happen. I saw this as a bit of light hearted fun. A way to see what people's different views are. Personally I would prefer a dedicated professionally qualified, full time DoF. I just think the job is that important.
Happy to see TK in some sort of part time commercial role that fits in with his other interests. I have absolutely nothing against the guy.

If anyone has not watched Sunderland till I die. You need to. It's an impossible job, players egos, agents and no loyalty. We are buying last minute because that's our place in the line. The media has made it show if you show an earlier interest it drives the price.  I think he tries hard at an impossible job.

Tony Khan has currently got us to be a yo-yo club, and he is improving at his role. The DOF's challenge once the window closes is to find a way that we can get a Championship Squad next season with a First XI: Rodak; Tete, Hector, Tosin, Robinson; Lemina, Cairney, Onamah;  Reid, Mitrovic and Cav plus Second XI: Betts; Odoi, Mawson, Kongolo, Bryan; S.Sess, Reed, Stefjo; Knockaert, Kamara and Kebano; with MLM and Stansfield as extras.

If Tony Khan can find a way to keep everyone except Fabri, Ream, KMac, Seri, and Anguissa, then he has done well. It is Scott Parker's job to get that team automatically promoted, even if it has some weaknesses, it's a strong team. If Parker cannot get that team promoted then I doubt he could get WBA, Sheffield or Brentford promoted either.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: ALG01 on February 02, 2021, 12:07:20 AM
after tonight OUT
No effort made to try and lkeep us up.
the expression yoyo club are just a lazy way of saying, for the moment he doesn't know what he is doing because in honesty we all know brentford were a way bette team than us last season but on one night they failed when we did well.
in the league games they shredded us. and were so much more inspiring.

the yo yo term  is an insult to all of us, it is an excuse for failure and anyone who accepts or condones it really has to think about what the point of competing is. I always thought it was to aspire to be the best you can be. npot accept your fate as second rate and unable to take you place as an equal at the top table. I mis MAF, he would have come out fighting.

TK ihas learned nothing.

This is a very sad day for our club.
Title: Re: TK .....IN or OUT?
Post by: Maidstone Lee on February 02, 2021, 12:23:48 AM
Agree with the above, feel quite sad about the whole situation. White flag isn't waving yet but I feel it's close. We need to survive, I worry for the clubs future if we go down.